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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:35pm On Apr 07, 2023
afrodoc2:
There is a reason those guys are always reluctant to publish a breakdown of their pay.

The only 3 jobs in Nigeria that have salaries that can rival 1st world countries are politician, olosho, and pastor.

Olosho bawo. How much daybreak be for Naija and how much e be for Aussie?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 1:36pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


250k that I heard they are paying doctors in Nigeria is way above average in the Nigerian economy or which other profession in Nigeria does the starting salary equal half of that.

In my NYSC days while normal corners were earning total of 8500 corper doctors were getting 70k
Judging from unlimited comments...

The salary isn't d very much needed improvements but the working environment as well as the complexity in executing a simple task due to lack of tools.

Also,there seems to me no rooms for intelligent improvements un every aspect of d job .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 1:38pm On Apr 07, 2023
A001:
WS is a highly accomplished writer and highly respected figure in society. However, I don't agree with his remarks about obidients demonstrating fascism in their approach to politics.
While it's true some obidients exhibit this attitude, I think the nobel laureate committed a fallacy of hasty generalizion thinking his remarks apply to all the youths that support PO.
Nevertheless, I don't approve the wide criticism his remarks have generated among many PO supporters online, and I have my reservations about the "cancel culture" of the obidient movement.

That's why I've never partaken in it personally.

I've personally found it hard to accurately describe "cancel culture".
Because from my view, once someone is duly criticized for doing something obviously wrong, people start shouting "cancel culture".

Look at Kingsley moghalu, yesterday he basically said he supports Soyinka because Soyinka endorsed him previously and then used the words "uncultured people" and the people saw through that tweet and rebuked him immediately and today he has apologised for his "wrong use of words".

That is accountability..

I personally felt stung by soyinka's words because I recall vividly how he was one of the prominent leaders and fighters against the misgovernace of the PDP and how he led the fight for a political revolution in this country in 2015, we were at his back, now WHAT HAS CHANGED??

How will he now be the same person to criticize the people carrying on the legacy of what he has fought for??

All what he fought against in 2015, have they been addressed?? Have they not become worse? So how can he not rationalise the impact of his words? He definitely deserved to be rebuked.

And why I said I don't understand that word "cancel culture" is because the people "cancelled" are never actually cancelled. It like a faux cry, you scream cancel culture but your influence remains the same.

Afterall batists have cancelled Obasanjo and threatened his entire lineage to be wiped off but Obasanjo is still waxing stronger, same with pa adebanjo. Soyinka would still maintain his influence so who exactly is cancelled?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 1:38pm On Apr 07, 2023
A001:

Wole Soyinka has paid his dues. So he deserves to be cut some slack.

Those at the fore-front of criticising and condemning WS should save their energy for the incoming BAT government. They'll need that energy in ample amounts when BAT starts his tenure.
We are built differently and I blv we have different reactions to a given action.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 1:39pm On Apr 07, 2023
Woke Soyinka go withdraw his fascist comment soon and apologize,na here we go dey grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:40pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


Olosho bawo. How much daybreak be for Naija and how much e be for Aussie?

I dey come. Let me DM Obaino to find out.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:41pm On Apr 07, 2023
Segedinho:

Judging from unlimited comments...

The salary isn't d very much needed improvements but the working environment as well as the complexity in executing a simple task due to lack of tools.

Also,there seems to me no rooms for intelligent improvements un every aspect of d job .


The working environment is representative of what Nigerian infrastructure is head to toe as with any poor country

You think the roads, bridges railway drainage houses will be 5th world standard but somehow hospitals would be 2nd world or 1st world?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:43pm On Apr 07, 2023
afrodoc2:


I dey come. Let me DM Obaino to find out.

Ask Obainojazz how much the one wey follow am go house last weekend collect

Naija daybreak maybe 10k to 20k Naira that is 20pounds or $30.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 1:47pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


250k that I heard they are paying doctors in Nigeria is way above average in the Nigerian economy or which other profession in Nigeria does the starting salary equal half of that.

In my NYSC days while normal corners were earning total of 8500 corper doctors were getting 70k
So you are saying that doctors are well paid here?

Wetin be 250k for a doctor? How much do graduate trainees earn in oil companies?

Many doctors in this lagos, I see trekking away their future to and fro work. How will these people operate on patients with a relaxed mind?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 1:48pm On Apr 07, 2023
Also..if these evil law makers thought it wise to stop doctors from travelling abroad, They should lead by example and pass a bill that stops our leaders in every echelon from travelling abroad for medical care.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 1:50pm On Apr 07, 2023
Amigoss:
Woke Soyinka go withdraw his fascist comment soon and apologize,na here we go dey grin

Even when they were presidents, he blasted Obasanjo and Buhari and didnt apologize. You think he is into jokes like Seyi Law. 😄

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 1:50pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


The working environment is representative of what Nigerian infrastructure is head to toe as with any poor country

You think the roads, bridges railway drainage houses will be 5th world standard but somehow hospitals would be 2nd world or 1st world?
Even in this aforementioned defences..politicians are still being paid homugous amount of money with a very suitable wardrobe allowances.


They contributes less than an average doc whose pry obligation is to save lives
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:53pm On Apr 07, 2023
Emaprince:
So you are saying that doctors are well paid here?

Wetin be 250k for a doctor? How much do graduate trainees earn in oil companies?

Many doctors in this lagos, I see trekking away their future to and fro work. How will these people operate on patients with a relaxed mind?

Compared to majority of Nigerian graduate, Yes doctors are well paid. You are a graduate right, what ws your starting salary? How many years did you work before you made 250K

Tell me which other profession pay 250K as a starting salary

Oil company is a private sector and can pay anything they want, I can also ask you how much resident doctors in Shell Hospital are earning

If doctors are trekking to and fro work, tell me which other professions do not trek to work or even live in worse conditions

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 1:54pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


Ask Obainojazz how much the one wey follow am go house last weekend collect

Naija daybreak maybe 10k to 20k Naira that is 20pounds or $30.
that's for some upcoming oloshoes..

The high class oloshoes can go as far as 50k to 100k for day break

While the premium ones goes as far as 250k even up to 1m..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 1:55pm On Apr 07, 2023
Amigoss:
Woke Soyinka go withdraw his fascist comment soon and apologize,na here we go dey grin
What does fascism have to do with obidients though?

I feel he was reaching with that word. PO is not even an authoritarian and doesn't exhibit characters that relates to it.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:55pm On Apr 07, 2023
Segedinho:

Even in this aforementioned defences..politicians are still being paid homugous amount of money with a very suitable wardrobe allowances.


They contributes less than an average doc whose pry obligation is to save lives

These politicians we talk about are 100 senators and Maybe 400 HOR members right? Total of 500 politicians in Federal house in Nigeria

How many doctors graduate from UNIBEN every year? Now think of all the medical schools in Nigeria. So by the time you pay every doctor what a politician earn. Politicians earn 13m a month so we should pay Doctors 13m a year, what of their lecturers who actually taught them how to become doctors? Another 13m a month, Firefighters who save lives 13m.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:56pm On Apr 07, 2023
seankafor:
that's for some upcoming oloshoes..

The high class oloshoes can go as far as 50k to 100k for day break

While the premium ones goes as far as 250k even up to 1m..

No Olosho upcoming or downtrodden in America will take $30 from you for even handjob. Ask nihilstjnr he will tell you

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 1:58pm On Apr 07, 2023
Donjazet2:


I've personally found it hard to accurately describe "cancel culture".
Because from my view, once someone is duly criticized for doing something obviously wrong, people start shouting "cancel culture".

Look at Kingsley moghalu, yesterday he basically said he supports Soyinka because Soyinka endorsed him previously and then used the words "uncultured people" and the people saw through that tweet and rebuked him immediately and today he has apologised for his "wrong use of words".

That is accountability..

I personally felt stung by soyinka's words because I recall vividly how he was one of the prominent leaders and fighters against the misgovernace of the PDP and how he led the fight for a political revolution in this country in 2015, we were at his back, now WHAT HAS CHANGED??

How will he now be the same person to criticize the people carrying on the legacy of what he has fought for??

All what he fought against in 2015, have they been addressed?? Have they not become worse? So how can he not rationalise the impact of his words? He definitely deserved to be rebuked.

And why I said I don't understand that word "cancel culture" is because the people "cancelled" are never actually cancelled. It like a faux cry, you scream cancel culture but your influence remains the same.

Afterall batists have cancelled Obasanjo and threatened his entire lineage to be wiped off but Obasanjo is still waxing stronger, same with pa adebanjo. Soyinka would still maintain his influence so who exactly is cancelled?

Who are the people carrying on the legacy of what he fought for?

Well, I am still waiting for you to answer the question I asked you since last month.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 1:59pm On Apr 07, 2023
Heard the cultism founder is challenging our datti for open debate

How low can he get grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 2:01pm On Apr 07, 2023
airmark:


Even when they were presidents, he blasted Obasanjo and Buhari and didnt apologize. You think he is into jokes like Seyi Law. 😄

He said ‘Obidients’ is one of the most repulsive he has ever encountered in political arena,he is going to do what he has not done before,tender an Apology wink

He went into jokes when he challenged datti to live debate,which position is he vying for or is he APC spokesman?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 2:04pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


These politicians we talk about are 100 senators and Maybe 400 HOR members right? Total of 500 politicians in Federal house in Nigeria

How many doctors graduate from UNIBEN every year? Now think of all the medical schools in Nigeria. So by the time you pay every doctor what a politician earn. Politicians earn 13m a month so we should pay Doctors 13m a year, what of their lecturers who actually taught them how to become doctors? Another 13m a month

I think you should understand the context one more time and this is.. d #250k salary is not really d issue compared with d working environment.

The are in hell trying to maneuver a favourable outcome with d least equipments.

They are being lynched by relatives of d deceased also they ain't really compensated for extra works done..


If the country can't afford to reward them,let it reflects in d take home of the renowned polithifians who contributes far less then they.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 2:04pm On Apr 07, 2023
Airmark.. see your goat 🐐

🤦

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 2:04pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


Ask Obainojazz how much the one wey follow am go house last weekend collect

Naija daybreak maybe 10k to 20k Naira that is 20pounds or $30.


Izzou told me that some regular premium olosho in Nigeria charge up 500k to 1m for their kuntus for TDB. I think that’s quite competitive when compared to the US, UK etc.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 2:07pm On Apr 07, 2023
seankafor:
Heard the cultism founder is challenging our datti for open debate

How low can he get grin
Lowest of low. Lol

The man shouldn't even be delving into dirty politics.

He is well respected across the globe..
So I don't even understand why he is dignifying anybody with a reply.

He reached with his description of obidients. Calling him out for also being a culprit back in days is enough. Not insulting him.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 2:08pm On Apr 07, 2023
seankafor:
Airmark.. see your goat 🐐

🤦

WS is over reacting.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:10pm On Apr 07, 2023
afrodoc2:



Izzou told me that some regular premium olosho in Nigeria charge up 500k to 1m for their kuntus for TDB. I think that’s quite competitive when compared to the US, UK etc.
500K is premium olosho in Naija o which are operating in VGC, Asokoro.
Yankee premium for daybreak operating in Hollywood and Wall street will charge $5k which is about 3.5m

Our area of fair competition is Pastors cos I heard we have the richest Pastors and Senators

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 2:11pm On Apr 07, 2023
Emaprince:
Lowest of low. Lol

The man shouldn't even be delving into dirty politics.

He is well respected across the globe..
So I don't even understand why he is dignifying anybody with a reply.

He reached with his description of obidients. Calling him out for also being a culprit back in days is enough. Not insulting him.

Wanted to use this word but I withdrew for some obvious reason.



Has datti's responded to any of his criticism?

I think with this,more armies in d obedient community would ve reasons to hold his "scrotum of being biased"
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 2:13pm On Apr 07, 2023
seankafor:
Heard the cultism founder is challenging our datti for open debate

How low can he get grin
"Our Datti"!

The strands of hair on WS are more important than Datti's lineage!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 2:15pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


The working environment is representative of what Nigerian infrastructure is head to toe as with any poor country

You think the roads, bridges railway drainage houses will be 5th world standard but somehow hospitals would be 2nd world or 1st world?

So Nigerian doctors should be compelled to endure these horrific, abnormal wage, living and working conditions?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 2:15pm On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:

500K is premium olosho in Naija o which are operating in VGC, Asokoro.
Yankee premium for daybreak operating in Hollywood and Wall street will charge $5k which is about 3.5m

Our area of fair competition is Pastors cos I heard we have the richest Pastors and Senators


Oh ok. I will have to now to your superior knowledge in this olosho issue.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:16pm On Apr 07, 2023
Segedinho:
I think you should understand the context one more time and this is.. d #250k salary is not really d issue compared with d working environment.

The are in hell trying to maneuver a favourable outcome with d least equipments.

They are being lynched by relatives of d deceased also they ain't really compensated for extra works done..

If the country can't afford to reward them,let it reflects in d take home of the renowned polithifians who contributes far less then they.

The working environment everywhere in Nigeria is garbage. How many times have we seen pictures of classrooms that make you want to vomit, or pictures of hostels where people live if you see some pictures you wont eat for 2 days, The roads are like warzones, Some potholes can swallow an entire car. Infrastuctures have all but broken down

How realistic is it that everywhere you go public infrastructures are like pit latrine but only hospitals will be good to average

The decay in hospitals is one of the evidence of the overall decay of public infrastructure everywhere in Nigeria

Is there any profession in Nigeria that their working environment is even average

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 2:16pm On Apr 07, 2023
Amigoss:


He said ‘Obidients’ is one of the most repulsive he has ever encountered in political arena,he is going to do what he has not done before,tender an Apology wink

That's his conclusion based on his multiple encounters in political arena. Why should you query him on that?

Soyinka that didn't tender apology for insinuating that Obj had a case to answer on Bola Ige's death, will not apologize to any group only powerful on social media. Take that to the bank.

Amigoss:


He went into jokes when he challenged datti to live debate,which position is he vying for or is he APC spokesman?

You must not vy for any position before engaging in order to correct erring person, on a TV programme.

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