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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 2:16pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Segedinho:lol, he dey joke with gen z obidients.. Na him go tire ![]() |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 2:17pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Segedinho: Isn't it obvious already? He was not in Nigeria when people were disenfranchised and attacked,when APC wanted to do a parallel govt et al. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 2:17pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1:lies from pit of hell Woke Soyinka is the founder of cultism and fraternity that has ravaged most young guys in the university today.. There is nothing applauding on that 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 2:20pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
seankafor: Yeah, Datti needs to be educated and corrected publicly by the sage. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:21pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Roland17: Compared to the rest of Nigerian workers, their wage is not abnormal its actually better than most in recognition that their work is special and has National security impact to it. No starting Engineer Accountant, Teacher etc in govt work earns 250K per month. To earn 250k in regular ministry you will be a senior staff and work over 10yrs if not more Nigeria no get money to rival UK, USA Canada etc in doctor compensation 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 2:21pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
airmark: So people only powerful on social media are FASCIST now? He was not in Nigeria when osibanjo said on TV,APC will form a parallel govt if the election was rigged? But datti quoting a part of the Constitution to form his arguement is up for debate with him ![]() |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 2:21pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter:So if it is like this and no iota of hope on improvement. Let the masses/docs takes the necessary actions they dim right.. You can't be in luxury with less struggle and beef d people than want to remodify their destiny.... It is witchcraft . 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:25pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
seankafor: He founded something and not responsible for what it became. Soyinka did not kill anyone as a frat member Should we also hold founders of religions for the killings some of their followers do? Should we also hold makers of airplane responsible for the death of flyers Hold the founders of vehicle responsible for deaths through accidents Hold the Nikola Tesla responsible for numerous electrocution Seank, Have you prayed for your incoming President today? Pray or else koboko 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 2:26pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
seankafor:WS did not found any secret cult in Nigeria. We will not be unfortunate ooo. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 2:28pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Should we hold the founder of the smartphone responsible for what Seankafor uses his smartphone to do? 11 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:29pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Segedinho: No one is beefing them, The govt is doing what they think right to avoid a national crisis since they can never compete on salary with advanced countries. Its almost a doctrine of necessity If all doctors japa who will treat the citizens? And the suggested solution is t pay them what their colleague earn in UK or Aussie? In a war situation, young men are conscripted into the military you cannot be a Ukrainian young man at this time and claim you want to do what you deem right. Its why soldiers in Nigerian army cannot stand up and do what they "deem right" |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:29pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
![]() Very long thread. Scroll pass or patiently read and digest all. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:30pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter:The guys arguments can be quite tiring. His "apparent fight for justice" based on loads of misinformation, disinformation and alternate logic can be infuriating |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 2:31pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Amigoss: Did you interview him and he supported that pre-election threat? Blame the media for not asking him questions back then. Post-election threat should be condemned in its entirety. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:31pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Fascism On Course: Wole Soyinka Replies "Obidients" FASCISM ON COURSE. It would appear that a record discharge of toxic sludge from our notorious smut factory is currently clogging the streets and sewers of the Republic of Liars. It goes to prove the point that provoked the avalanche EXACTLY! The seeds of incipient fascism in the political arena have evidently matured. A climate of fear is being generated. The refusal to entertain correctlve criticism, even differing perspectives of the same position has become a badge of honour and certificate of commitment. What is at stake, ultimately is – Truth, and at a most elementary level of social regulation: when you are party to a conflict, you do not attempt to intimidate the arbiter, attempt to dictate the outcome, or impugn, without credible cause, his or her neutrality even before hearing has commenced. That is a ground rule of just proceeding. Short of this, Truth remains permanently elusive. The ensuing cacophony has been truly bewildering. It strikes me as a possible ploy to smother recent provocations by other, far more trenchant issues, such as revelations of declarations of a religious war. If so, let it be known that I have long declared war against religious fundamentalism, the nature of which justifies the butchery, kidnapping and enslavement of students in the name of religion. That aspirant’s alleged gaffe cuts no ice with me. Far more alarming was the grotesque fantasy of the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court disguised as a wheelchair, zooming off in space to a secret meeting with other parties of the conflict. On its own, that is sufficiently scary. Swiftly followed thereafter by a television tirade of intimidation, it strikes one as more than the mere antics by the mentally deranged. The tactics are familiar: ridicule, incriminate, then intimidate. Objective: undermine the structure of justice Just as a reminder: this writer was not being rhetorical when he declared, on exiting prison detention: Justice is the first condition of humanity. The instigating contest – Nigerian Democracy 2023 - has witnessed much that is innovative – largely in the retrogressive vein. Violence and ethnic profiling. “Spiritual” warfare in the shape of sacrificial rams to keep “disloyal” communites under restraint – in short, intimidation yet again! Easily overlooked however are those missives of violence directed against dissenting voices, real or suspect. Such, for instance, were the virulent attacks and threats to the musician Seun Kuti, his family and iconic music Shrine. His crime consisted of nothing more than declaring the name “Obidient” derogatory to his sense of civic dignity and activist history. Such beginnings – and instances are numerous - have culminated in the open intimidation of the Court of Last Resort, even before proceedings have begun. By the way, I do agree with Seun Kuti; ‘Obidients’ is one of the most repulsive, off-putting concoctions I ever encountered in any political arena. Some love it however, and this is what freedom is about. Choice. Taste. Free emotions. By contrast, I have no quarrel with “Yes Daddy”. Roman Catholics are used to saying “Yes, Father”. Secularists say “Enh, Baba”. The context and content are what matters, and lies – where established - raise bothersome issues such as Integrity Deficiency. Let us remind ourselves of the following: in any adjudication, society finds it unacceptable that a party to the dispute resort to influencing tactics by extra-judicial means – such as bribery. Intimidation and threats are merely the obverse complements of material inducement. Those who fail to appreciate this are entirely free to their existence in an illusory world. We shall add the following pointer for this particular electoral tussle - the news may be unpleasant, but here it comes. 5 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:33pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Nostradamus1: GrammarNazi1: Which is why people will be there to set right illogical argument, Seankafor wey go still wear Tinubus agbada. Hm and spy360 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:33pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Cont.......... 1 Quite a few pundits have set out in some impressive – not necessarily persuasive - detail the- possibility that the complainants in this presidential election are not as strongly planted on the victory podium as they presume – see, for instance – Ambassador Haastrup’s fascinating analysis in Newspeak etc. April 6. Right or wrong? That is not the issue. What the nations needs to know right now is if you are planning to send assassins after such negative analysts.! Coming to terms with an unpalatable projected eventuality – sorry – possible eventuality, counsels deep reflection, not demonization of the bearer of sour news. For the seriously committed, it requires pulling back the horns a little in order to regroup, rethink and resurge. Democracy is sometimes a long haul. Some of us have been at it for quite a while I am well aware that the foregoing is further invitation for more nauseous bilge from the besotted. Please, be my guest. It is, after all, one of those special seasons of convergence of two seasons of self-flagellation. Fasting makes bearers of constricted minds even more light-headed. Delusions fill the vacuum. Oh yes, could these rabid parochial minds of easy excitation also kindly stop flattering themselves that one’s energies are consecrated solely to the nation space known as `Nigeria? The whines of “silence” are relative to the reading scope and world knowledge of idle complainants as well as their grasp of the chain of continuity. I choose my methods of intervention without the permission of social media border patrols, so where you find a gap, just pick up the baton where last deposited and stop whining and belly-aching – “he stopped talking all this while, why now?” etc etc ad nauseum . Flat, easy disposable lies that gain traction by repetition. However, even more importantly, they remain irrelevant to the rights and wrongs of ongoing material issue. Sadly, these virtue vigilantes succeed with the ignorant and susceptible – especially among the younger, confused generation. The consequence is that the nation is plagued by fake CVs compiled by all kinds of amateur commentators, still wet behind the ears, who have too few truths to build on before they are corralled into positions of No-Retreat. Nowhere has this been more evident than in the effrontery of attempts to place the present contention on the same podium as the twenty-year old anti-Abacha struggle! This gross abuse of historic licence actually provides smug satisfaction for rookie activists. I advise them to seek out the school of survivors where pertinent lessons still exist for those with sufficient humility to LEARN before MOUTHING! Otherwise their world of false mythologies will collapse under their feet, and leave them dangling in the void. May I cease this opportunity, by the way, to condemn the sanctions imposed on CHANNELS Television which anchored the performance of the LP candidate. As stated, I watched the programme keenly – saw the valiant efforts of the interviewer to ensure fair hearing. I fail to understand just where the station could be faulted, except from a disposition for injustice. To sustain that penalty is to give joy to others who turn Internet into a soakaway for their rancid emissions, yet feel that others should be silenced. If CHANNELS feels up to it, I offer myself willing to engage Mr. Datti – or any nominee of his - on its platform on this very bone of contention – one-on-one – without the malodorous intervention of media trolls, and with the same interviewer as mediator. That should be taken as a serious offer. Project NIGERIA, I must confess, has become near terminally soul-searing. Do I still believe in it? I am no longer certain but - first we must rid ourselves of the tyranny of the ignorant and the opportunism of time-servers. In any case, there is not much else to engage one on a foundation of ownership stakes. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 2:33pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1: Seankafor is using his phone for business I guess. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:34pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
cont..........2 There is of course, always the possibility of a Revolution, with a clarity of purpose and acceptance of all attendant risks, including costly errors. Revolutions are not however based on the impetus of speculative power entitlement. No matter, until that moment, the structures that ensure just and equitable cohabitation must be protected from partisan appropriation - be it from material inducement, fake news, or verbal terrorism – the last being the contribution of one who is positioned to assume co-leadership of the nation, no less. Revolution is not about lining up behind the nearest available symbol. When a symbol does emerge however, we are still obliged to examine every aspect of what is fortuitously on offer, and continue to guard our freedoms every inch of the way. Before I take myself off for – well, next port of call – the final word goes to a favourite maverick, propagated even as he matched his words by action. I suspect that in this instance we find ourselves on opposite sides of the strategic fence – that is democracy. This now coopted watchword of his formulation remains apt, applicable to all who strive for authentic social transformation: Your mummu done do! Ramadan Kareem. Happy Easter! WOLE SOYINKA 2 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 2:37pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter: Govt isn't being sincere.. If docs japa-ing is the issue then they have to ask questions why and then provide a suitable solution. Caging dem for d next 5years with dead tools while they have got d luxury to japa for a runny nose issue isn't one.. Doc are more important than those thieves and should be given accolades and not opposite. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:45pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
![]() "Project NIGERIA, I must confess, has become near terminally soul-searing. Do I still believe in it? I am no longer certain but - first we must rid ourselves of the tyranny of the ignorant and the opportunism of time-servers. In any case, there is not much else to engage one on a foundation of ownership stakes." ......almost assume it was nihilistjnr that penned these lines. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 2:47pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
airmark: Did he condemn any post-election threat and violence as he called "online noisemakers" only powerful on social media fascist repeatedly. To be fair,he should be debating with MC OLUOMO and datti all together ![]() |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 2:49pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter:I no fit just ever pay for sex… weird to me Anyways… the price here sef choke and e better to use mouth find woman See person rate below
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 2:49pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter: If we say doctors are important to the health of any nation, why are we comparing them to other Nigerian workers? Isn’t that. The situation is bad and disgraceful when you consider the number of years and precise expertise it requires to become one. Not forgetting some of them spend close to a decade to get out of school because of strikes and accreditation issues. If we say doctors are important to the health of a nation, why are we comparing them to other Nigerian workers? I thought opponents of Japa argued the decision should be personal? So why are we compelling doctors to deal with the mess that will never get fixed? The idea is to be competitive in your trade and seek the best opportunities for yourself! There are developing countries, including in Africa who struggle economically but ensure their doctors are well compensated and have better working conditions in comparison to what we have in Nigeria. If doctors who are professors in colleges and universities in Nigeria are queuing to Japa, what is 250K and a despicable working condition to a young doctor? 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 2:51pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
social media border patrols The consequence is that the nation is plagued by fake CVs compiled by all kinds of amateur commentators, still wet behind the ears, who have too few truths to build on before they are corralled into positions of No-Retreat.
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:53pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Segedinho: If you are Buhari today, How would you be sincere and address this issue. Shortage of doctors getting worse. Nigeria cannot compete in wages with Japa destination I posted the entire budget for Nigeria is $49bn, budget for New York state dept of health is over $200bn. Population of State of New York is 20M So how do you get sincere to compete with that? The FY 2023 Executive Budget recommends $204.3 billion for DOH, including $188.4 billion for Medicaid (representing the two-year appropriation authority), $6.5 billion for the Essential Plan, and $9.4 billion for remaining health program spending. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:54pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
obainojazz: See evidence. I know say one of our specialists will come with facts. Almost $1k for 2hrs |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 2:55pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
OasisX: Suen Kuti is Soyinkas great nephew BTW. Ish got personal 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 2:58pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter: That's Aussie dollars, so you'll need to discount 33% to get to US dollars It's vital we get our facts totally correct on this hoelosho matter as these prices are an important component of CPI 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:59pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Roland17: Nigerian govt puts doctors on a different pedestal thats why they pay them way more than the average graduate. That 250k is what some graduates will never get from govt in 15yrs service Nigeria sees them as very essential workers and pay them better than other graduates. The doctor situation is dire. Some places in the North dont have 5 doctors in an entire LGA and they use corpers. So they pay them way more Those African countries who pay more probably have more income per head than Nigeria. I doubt Nigeria can afford to pay 750K to every doctor before we start thinking of the cascading effect to every sector of the country 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 3:01pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
![]() AFRICAN NOBEL LAUREATE IN LITERATURE - WINNERS Age Awarded 1986 — 🇳🇬 Wole Soyinka, 52yrs 1988 — 🇪🇬 Naguib Mahfouz, 77 1991 — 🇿🇦 Nadine Gordimer, 68 2003 — 🇿🇦 John Coetzee, 63 2021 — 🇹🇿 Abdulrazak Gurnah, 72 BTW: Prof. Wole Soyinka is Africa's first winner. ..... any writer of literary art wey em no dey there na featherweight, local Champ. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:02pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Ibime: Accounting perspective before some of our young men start considering career options and choosing Hoeloeshow certifications Obainojazz how much is 2hrs in Awka, Isolo, Ibadan and everywhere you lived for over 2 weeks in Nigeria |
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