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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 4:36pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1:Omo, ![]() Osalobua. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 4:36pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Unlimited22:No. I have a very "little collection" of African stories. Is it better than the Poor Christ of Bomba or African Child |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 4:37pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1:My favourite poets (of that era) are Chris Okigbo, J. P. Clark and Niyi Osundare (him In particular. No time for shakushaku writing, read Eating Tomorrow's Yam or The Land of Unease to see what I mean) My fave African poets are Okot p'Bitek, Dennis Brutus and Jared Angira. Leopold Sedar Senghor too but him na mostly politician. For foreign guys, A. E. Houseman, Edgar Allan Poe, William Wordsworth, Rudyard Kipling, T. S. Eliot and the writer of my favourite poem ever, Sir Walter Raleigh. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:37pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
seankafor: He rigged yet lost Lagos his state Tinubu did not get 70% in any state, yet Obi gather 90% in his home region 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 4:37pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
"Wole Soyinka is a gifted man but a bad politician" ![]() https://twitter.com/NnaaIyke/status/1644361689872347137?t=4aUC_NHTHzq6bQg9wMGBHw&s=19 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 4:37pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Nostradamus1:Nah, I just wanted to make a point to you concerning language. It is written in the POV of a child soldier. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 4:38pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
![]() “If CHANNELS feels up to it, I offer myself willing to engage Mr. Datti – or any nominee of his – on its platform on this very bone of contention – one-on-one – without the malodorous intervention of media trolls, and with the same interviewer as mediator” - Wole Soyinka 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 4:39pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
airmark:I have a nice rebuttal for this. I will search for it. Have you wondered why Things Fall Apart is rated higher by many Nigerians than any Soyinka's book. NB:The above statement is not a widely recognized fact. It was a product of several small experiments carried out by me and my group with a possibly biased sample group. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 4:41pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 4:43pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
![]() Incoming Chief of Staff don start work. Yesterday I met with aspirants for the office of the Speaker of Nigeria’s House of Representatives in the coming 10th Assembly. All 9 aspirants I have known and worked with for many years and I have no doubt will do well in continuing and building on the legacy of the 9th Assembly. - Femi Gbajabiamila
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 4:44pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Nostradamus1:Things Fall Apart is Africa's greatest English language novel. Might even be the GOAT African novel in any language sef |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 4:45pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 4:48pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
DissTroy: No Nigerian dead or alive matches Wole Soyinka. If an award is subjective, how about your own evaluation? Is it objective? I repeat: no Nigerian dead or alive matches Wole Soyinka. Besides, Malaila won the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Prize in Literature, please, and she won it for her activism and that was the right award for her which she deserved. Didn't she? That same way, Wole Soyinka deserved his Nobel Prize in Literature, which Achebe did not win. Again, no Nigerian dead or alive matches Wole Soyinka. 15 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 4:48pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter: Otem guide you Egbon. I’ve responded. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 4:50pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
OasisX:Better disclaimer |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 4:56pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Unlimited22: How we no sure say no be Chat GPT write am As a rap fan who has gone deep into multisyllabic forms of expression, most poetry that is lauded is beginner level to me. I can't rate it |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 4:56pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1: Some awards are subjective. Some are based on definitive indices like goal contributions and trophies won for footballers, or a defined achievement like gene editing to delete a cancer-causing constituent for bioengineers or something definitive like that for Nobel Prize winners in Medicine. What are the definitive or set indices for determining the Nobel Prize winners for Literature in the debated case? You could have 30 nominated and, subjectively, one is picked based on reasons which don't stand the winner out from the line-up. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 4:57pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Imagine being soo morally bankrupt as to appraise the speaker that has overseen the very worst assembly ever seen in this country. An assembly that very much did not know it's role as an independent arm of government. A rubber stamp house that stamped Nigeria to death and took us thousands of steps backwards. But of course, tribal ideation will be read Into this post and not the objectivity with which it is written. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 4:58pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Unlimited22:Exactly . Soyinka might be Nigerian greatest writer based on the quality and quantity produced but "Things Fall Apart" produced in 1958 showed a whole new continent to Europeans. It also showed/explained or tried to explain our acceptance or rejection of the colonizers. Some like Nwoye and the "Osus" adopted and accepted the new religion and their gatekeepers. Others like Okonkwo rejected this idea of being ruled over by an ordinary man and a foreign god. It showed a glimpse of our justice system from the death of Ikemefuna to the banishment of Okonkwo(one of the greatest man in his kindred). It showed our sicknesseses and our strengths. It showed our flexible belief in the supernatural. A man' "chi" is the greatest. A man can offend Ojukwu and please Ani. A man can please Sango and displease [b]Ogun.[/b]These religious beliefs helped rationalize any evil that visit anyone. It was a masterclass |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 4:58pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Unlimited22: Amazing tbh. I love reading books also but I was more into history and the likes. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 5:02pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Ibime:If I swear by Otem, will you believe me? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lol for my first attempt I'm keeping AI away. And rap and poetry are branches of one tree. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 5:05pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
DissTroy:I understand your point, but I am sure you also understand that ultimately art is subjective yet literary experts know a good quality of literary products when they see it. If you are in doubt about the criteria used to choose Nobel Laureates, please proceed to the academy's website or page in order to be enlightened because even though art is subjective there are criteria of categorization. And if Wole Soyinka did win the prize but Achebe did not, then Wole Soyinka must have done some things right whereas Achebe had not. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 5:09pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Unlimited22:One thing I love about Niyi Osundare's poetry is that a lot of his poems are "musical". I don't really know the right word to use. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 5:14pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1:You don't need to. Just point anyone at Faka Fiki Foo |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 5:14pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Unlimited22: Rap is a far more advanced form of poetry, such that AI cannot replicate it's intricacy. Rap keeps the same metaphors and end-rhymes as poetry, and adds two more dimensions - multisyllabic rhyme patterns and timing to fit a beat If I can write this in rap form, what concerns me with "your love is like morning due" and other basic things that are lauded in poetry
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 5:19pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Ibime:So basically, hubris? 😒 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:21pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
nihilistjnr: Well it depends on whether you want to be realistic or delusional In my opinion, No one can stop the downward slide of this country not even Obama, there are many factors working against Nigeria and many countries in Africa that goes beyond the person ruling the country The best one can hope for is to slow down the downward spiral 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 5:22pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter: If we can not pay them or guarantee them a good and safe working environment, why are we compelling them to stay back and endure these conditions knowing how much time and effort it take to become one. Worsestill, we know they have peculiar skills that are competitive in the global market! We can't eat our cake and have it at the same time. We can't compel doctors to stay in Nigeria and at the same time fail to prioritize them. Speaking of the North, how many doctors can you convince to go practice in areas struggling with insecurity? Let's not even talk about the wage, working conditions, near absence of facilities and medical systems, annual strike...Lets talk about challenges associated with kidnapping, banditry, UGM, sharp differences in culture and religious expectation. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 5:26pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1: Exactly. Art is subjective.
This is exactly what feminists say when one argues the logic of their hard stances with them - go read up. -- Here is the criteria for the Nobel Prize for Peace: https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/literature/ . It clear states that once nominated the Swedish Academy decides which nominations they would pick but reserve the right never to reveal why the nominees got shortlisted or not. It even has a law that further details about the nominations cannot be revealed for 50 years. There is no specific stated criteria for being a Nobel Prize winner in Literature. No benchmark and the academy refuses to make it public. This is what you slate Achebe for? Some of us get into the fine details. You can't bamboozle everyone. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 5:37pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Many factors like? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:43pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Roland17: Nigeria subsidize education significantly, The education we get in Nigeria are not paying what their global counterparts are paying for education. Doctors now have specific skills that is important to Nigerian govt, which is why Nigerian govt pays them more than other graduates. They are not compelling them to stay for life, Its just pay back the FG for the subsidized education for 5yrs then you can leave. Those that choose to get their medical education outside Nigeria will pay a significant amount for it way more than Nigeria. You now have a situation where they get cheaper education in Nigeria and pay back for 5yrs Its like the Ibo apprenticeship, I train you and you serve me for certain years and get your freedom fully. If you don't want the period of payback then offer to pay full amount that others in the abroad are paying 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 5:45pm On Apr 07, 2023 |
Unlimited22: More or less |
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