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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Putinofrussia: 9:04am On Apr 09, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica: You can do all the dribbling in a match but if your opponent scores against you,especially in the world cup just like the Nobel,he becomes your superior,the oga patapata. Prof Chinua Achebe died an envious man. He was not as talented and versatile like Prof Soyinka who the literary world eventually honoured with the greatest of honour any writer craves for.It is the pinnacle,the apex.A pity it missed Prof Achebe. He sulked until his demise. These are what made the whites,the experts give Nobel Laurel to Prof Soyinka and not to the less versatile Prof Achebe. Plays Keffi's Birthday Treat (1954) The Invention (1957) The Swamp Dwellers (1958) A Quality of Violence (1959)[130] The Lion and the Jewel (1959) The Trials of Brother Jero (1960) A Dance of the Forests (1960) My Father's Burden (1960) The Strong Breed (1964) Before the Blackout (1964) Kongi's Harvest (1964) The Road (1965) Madmen and Specialists (1970) The Bacchae of Euripides (1973) Camwood on the Leaves (1973) Jero's Metamorphosis (1973) Death and the King's Horseman (1975) Opera Wonyosi (1977) Requiem for a Futurologist (1983) A Play of Giants (1984) Childe Internationale (1987) From Zia with Love (1992) The Detainee (radio play) A Scourge of Hyacinths (radio play) The Beatification of Area Boy (1996) Document of Identity (radio play, 1999) King Baabu (2001) Etiki Revu Wetin Alapata Apata (2011) "Thus Spake Orunmila" (in Sixty-Six Books (2011) Novels The Interpreters (1965) Season of Anomy (1973) Chronicles from the Land of the Happiest People on Earth (Bookcraft, Nigeria; Bloomsbury, UK; Pantheon, US, 2021) Short stories A Tale of Two (1958) Egbe's Sworn Enemy (1960) Madame Etienne's Establishment (1960) Memoirs The Man Died: Prison Notes (1972) Aké: The Years of Childhood (1981) Ibadan: The Penkelemes Years: a memoir 1945–1965 (1989) Ìsarà: A Voyage around Essay (1989) You Must Set Forth at Dawn (2006) Poetry collections Telephone Conversation (1963) (appeared in Modern Poetry in Africa) Idanre and other poems (1967) A Big Airplane Crashed into The Earth (original title Poems from Prison) (1969) A Shuttle in the Crypt (1971) Ogun Abibiman (1976) Mandela's Earth and other poems (1988) Early Poems (1997) Samarkand and Other Markets I Have Known (2002) Essays "Towards a True Theater" (1962) Culture in Transition (1963) Neo-Tarzanism: The Poetics of Pseudo-Transition A Voice That Would Not Be Silenced Art, Dialogue, and Outrage: Essays on Literature and Culture (1988) From Drama and the African World View (1976) Myth, Literature, and the African World (1976) The Blackman and the Veil (1990) The Credo of Being and Nothingness (1991) The Burden of Memory – The Muse of Forgiveness (1999) A Climate of Fear (the BBC Reith Lectures 2004, audio and transcripts) New Imperialism (2009) Of Africa (2012) Beyond Aesthetics: Use, Abuse, and Dissonance in African Art Traditions (2019) Films Kongi's Harvest Culture in Transition Blues for a Prodigal Translations The Forest of a Thousand Demons: A Hunter’s Saga (1968; a translation of D. O. Fagunwa's Ògbójú Ọdẹ nínú Igbó Irúnmalẹ̀) In the Forest of Olodumare (2010; a translation of D. O. Fagunwa's Igbo Olodumare). Igbos are good but Yorubas have always proven to be better. It is naturally the doings of the Omipotent. You cannot fight God nah 10 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by adetayoonas(m): 9:11am On Apr 09, 2023 |
nedekid: Click like If you want your son to be like Nigeria’s only world Nobel laureate- prof Wole Soyinka. Click share if you want your son to be like Charly Boy who was onced denied by his Father 4 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by adetayoonas(m): 9:16am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Kudos to Professor Wole Soyinka who looks more responsible than Charly boy . I want my son to be like prof Wole Soyinka not like charly boy An hero of south west The only Nobel laureate in Nigeria. He was regarded today by the world as the best in literature A living legend God bless you sir Like if you want your son or future son to be like Prof Wole Soyinka Share if you want your son to be like Charly boy who was once denounced by his father 3 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by adetayoonas(m): 9:17am On Apr 09, 2023 |
You just typed the wrong thing above. Prof Wole Soyinka is the best. Achebe focused majorly only on books/novel while Nobel laurel PROF Wole Soyinka focused on everything about literature- poems, script writing,plays, poetry, novels, essay, research, introduction of new words in the English dictionary and world encyclopedia. He is the best playwright in the world till date. Cyprain Ekwensi and Elechi Amadi are even better than Achebe. If you doubt me go and read Elechi Amadi’s The concubine and compare it with any of Achebe’s books. Only Things fall apart came close. Prof Soyinka wrote many books than all of them which includes The trials of brother Jero. Ibadan: The penkelemes. The lion and the jewel. The interpreters….written in 1965. Ake. Death and the king’s horseman The man died: prison notes from Wole Soyinka. The road. Idanre and other poems. Mandela’s earth and other poems Ogun Abibímàn. Madmen and his specialists. Chronicles from the land of the happiest people. You must set forth at dawn. Of Africa King Baabu Collected plays by Soyinka. Season of anomy. Written from prison. The open sore of a continent. Samarkand and other markets. The strong breed. Selected poems. Child internationale Climate of fear The credo of being and nothingness. Cam wood on the leaves. From Zia with love. The swamp dwellers Alàpàta Apáta. The beautification of the area boy. Forest of a thousand daemons: A Hunter's Saga · Yoruba title: Ògbójú ọdẹ nínu igbó irúnmọlẹ Written by D.O Fagunwa translated by Wole Soyinka. The Burden of Memory, the Muse of Forgiveness. Art, dialogue and outrage. And so many more books were written by him. His books were used to set literature in English exam questions even in Cambridge A and O levels exams He covers all aspects of literature unlike Achebe. He is just the best. Obidients and Charly boy has forgotten so soon that this great Yoruba man- prof Soyinka fought for Igbos: He wrote a good deal of Poems from Prison while he was jailed in 1967–69 for speaking out against the war brought on by the attempted secession of Biafra from Nigeria. The Man Died (1972) is his prose account of his arrest and 22-month imprisonment by Gowon for fighting for igbos. He deserves more accolades and respect. An 88 years old still vibrant and healthy. A great mentor, erudite scholar and philanthropist We don’t even have any Nobel prize winner in Nigeria except him till date. 3 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Dbestbrest: 9:19am On Apr 09, 2023 |
The shame is on you. Your Achebe craved for Nobel Laurent but never got it and died in sorrow. You wished you could be like him but fate put you where you are. Have you ever won Grammy award before? Nope, not for nincompoops like you. Idiotic old man with no shame. You will also sulk till you go the way of Achebe 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by greypencils: 9:20am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Vinnie2000:The Nobel prize is far beyond and above ALL that you listed. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Nobody: 9:22am On Apr 09, 2023 |
imgoinghigher05: Maybe because I'm not the daft type that seeks for validation online. So I post what I want without giving a single fvck. From your reply, it seems you're the type that loves such online validation. 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by greypencils: 9:24am On Apr 09, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica:The Nobel Prize is far above and beyond that one book and its 'million' translations. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Iykenuwa(m): 9:28am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Creeper: Mention one of Soyinka's works that can match Arrow of God, let's even leave Things Fall Apart that is still being studied all over the world. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by detectivejones: 9:29am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Its pitiable to see people who have no idea of what literature really is spewing trash against WS. 3 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by VULCAN(m): 9:29am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Your Ignorance stems from your lack of exposure. There is no Nigerian nay African, alive or dead whose books have been translated into as many languages as Achebe. Over 50 at last count a few years ago There is NO university library in the developed world and even in less developed countries that does not have Achebe's books in the African Literature section. Soyinka won a Nobel Prize for literature and that is a wonderful achievement but his influence has kept degrading while Achebe in death is still impacting literature students globally. Chimamanda drew inspiration from him and has taken the world, please name any person who drew inspiration from Soyinka and has dominated world Literature As powerful as a Nobel is, it represents the decision of a 5 MAN committee and not the majority of stakeholders in any sector. That's why Obama could be nominated and win a Nobel Prize before he ever did anything to deserve it. Things Fall Apart alone has sold more than 10m copies and remains the best selling literature by ANY African alive or dead. You can die in your bigotry but globally Wole Soyinka will ALWAYS take a back seat to Achebe in literary circles. babtoundey: |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by PeterTinubu(m): 9:34am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Even Chinua Achebe knows his daddy 🤣🤣🤣 The Trials Of Brother Jero by Wole Soyinka will destroy everything Chinua Achebe ever worked for 😁 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by tishbite42: 9:38am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Gajagojo:Go and get a copy of the book and read from front cover to back cover. What is ignorant and foolish is that you don't know the process and system of the Nobel Academy. Albert Einstein got awarded in 1921 on the basis of the work he did in 1905. Same goes for Max Planck and Niels Bohr If Achebe is to be awarded today, it will be on the basis of 'Things Fall Apart'. All other talks will just be add-ons. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Obaaderemi2: 10:01am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Gajagojo:Chai! |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Obaaderemi2: 10:04am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Guestlander:You mean Obidients are what my mother called "Omo Aja Ti Ko Mo Iya Re"? Translation: A wild puppy that has no regard even for his mother". A wild dog will attack anyone. 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Gajagojo: 10:24am On Apr 09, 2023 |
tishbite42:Things Fall Apart was not Achebe"s best work. You obviously have not read and do not read. None of his works are of the necessary academic standard. Ben Okri is miles ahead Things Fall Apart is a story written at the intellectual level of secondary school children |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by tishbite42: 10:27am On Apr 09, 2023 |
Gajagojo:Oga, bye bye I don't engage in talks that reduces my I.Q. level Ciao 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Gajagojo: 10:28am On Apr 09, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica:Achebe not good enough for Nobel prize |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by LegendHero(m): 12:14pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Mubiola360: Amen and you too. Trust me they all know but yet purposely pass fake news so as to dent Prof image to drive their agenda. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by ayinba1(f): 12:23pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
tishbite42: But he will not, he cannot write any more books and his body of work has already been reviewed by his peers. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Bouncing2(m): 12:59pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Why comparing that old fool to chinua Achebe? |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by tishbite42: 1:15pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
ayinba1:I wrote 'if' Happy Easter, young damsel |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by condiz8: 2:00pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Hedonini: Ya parents born goat like you.... |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by nedekid: 3:15pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
adetayoonas:My son is a soon to be lawyer. So past the stage of choosing to be a poet like Soyinka or a showbiz practitioner like oputa. If he still decides to go either way, after being called to bar, that is his choice as an adult. Both men are successful Anyway. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 4:57pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Gajagojo: Okocha not good enough for the Champions league trophy but better than Mikel Obi that won it. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by omohayek: 5:03pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
VULCAN:And Achebe can't hold a candle to JK Rowling, Danielle Steele or John Grisham in terms of either book sales or translations. I suppose by your criteria that makes these writers the greatest masters of the English language who ever lived or something? It's pathetic the ridiculous lengths some of you will go to salve the chip on the shoulder you clearly have over Wole Soyinka having been awarded the ultimate prize in literature while Achebe never was. That's why you're sinking to such preposterous depths to argue that Achebe is "greater" because he (supposedly) sold more copies of his books, as if the likes of Wole Soyinka, William Faulkner, JM Coetzee, Saul Bellow and Yasunari Kawabata* could ever be regarded as "inferior" to purveyors of massively popular potboilers like "Dan Brown" of "Da Vinci Code" noteriety. It's the same inferiority complex that drove Charly Boy to gratuitously introduce Achebe into a discussion about Soyinka, as if he were putting forth his own tribal champion in a Roman gladiatorial contest. *I'm sure you'd never even heard of these authors before now, let alone read anything by them, though you're ludicrously posturing as if you were some kind of literary savant. 1 Like |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by zomby(m): 5:22pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
This 👇🏿👇🏿👇🏿👇🏿is the Nigerian icon Charlie boy and his people are disrespecting 1 Like
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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by zomby(m): 5:24pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Big question for Charlie boy: Apart from making fool of your old self, what else have you done for your community or Nigeria lately? Sick pig with a fatHEAD! |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by zomby(m): 5:26pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Charlie boy… Old for nothing! Agbaya! |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by zomby(m): 5:28pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Charles boy… a sick fatHEAD exhibitionist. Go home! Go and help your people! |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 5:47pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Putinofrussia: A company can produce different items but if none of her products is a brand, that company can not be describe as a success story. Toyota is a brand in the automobile industry. Innoson is not yet a brand hence even if the company produces ten different kinds of vehicles , a single kind of vehicle from Toyota will be rated above them. From your list, can you pick out just two books from each of the categories that is a brand in the world of literature. Which of the plays from Soyinka can you compare with a play by Shakespeare who is a playwright. Which of Soyinka novel can compete with Achebe novels. Ekwensi also wrote many books in different categories but his books were inferiors like that of Soyinka. Hence with due respect, Soyinka and Ekwensi are at the same level in the literary world. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 6:06pm On Apr 09, 2023 |
Putinofrussia: The igbos have produce a female literally icon in Chimmamada Adiche. Since you claim that yorubas are always better than igbos, can you confide in me the female Yoruba literally icon. |
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