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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by jaxxy(m): 9:34pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Where in the court document did he say he was arrested or charged?

Where are the records of the arrest warrant and charge?

it's all listed out in the orignal court documents.

it wasn't a small case.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Eriokanmi: 9:35pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

I know but the law doesn't work on emotion. Law is blind.

Luckily for him, he wasn't indicted or convicted.
Lolz. Law is blind you said. We shall see

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by shogz89: 9:35pm On Apr 11, 2023
Donake:
Nobody is asking of any arrest,warrant but to ask the investigative team to affirm what the civil o criminal forfeiture was for?

Can a government ask anybody to forfeit funds when there is no crime,fraud or illegal funds suspected to be routed through such accounts? The enquiry through the IGP isn't enough. Get a DEA agent to testify before the courts so these matters can be laid to rest.
yes.. If money is paid into your account without you properly knowing the source. It will be forfeited. Except you are a criminal yourself and don't want to return it.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:36pm On Apr 11, 2023
jaxxy:


it's all listed out in the orignal court documents.

it wasn't a small case.
I have seen the original. About 8 pages. Nothing talks about arrest. He was even in Nigeria when the civil forfeiture took place and they were communicating with him by phone.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Comelysync: 9:37pm On Apr 11, 2023
Eriokanmi:
How can any court ask me to forfeit ordinary 1kusd of my hard-earned money, if not legitimately sourced and deposited in my account...and I'd not challenge and claim it back when im not father Christmas? Wonderful!
what if someone transferred money into your account without your knowledge and it's drug money.. The only way the government can get the money from you is by a forfeiture by a court order, what if i have a friend who does not have an account in the USA and he claimed someone want to pay him money for a service or purchase and he needs a USA account you provide your account and the money was deposited, you didn't touch it only to find out it was drug money.. The only way the government to get the money is to find out is you are involved in the drug trade if you not.. The law same with Nigeria law with the USA is for the court to order a forfeiture the money that does not make you a criminal.
TO me tinubu adversaries are not knowledgeable enough. What they should have gone after is not the money or forfeiture but transcripts of what really led to the forfeiture...
This man has been a Senator, A governor now a President elect and President in few weeks time now all this while none of them tried to find out what really happened but wasting our time online and lawyers smiling away with millions from court.
Find out what really happened if he is innocent leave him alone abeg the country has spoken.. If he is not then bring ur facts out in court.. Let's move forward abeg.. Not all this nonsense issues of a case that have been thrashed 2 decades ago.. Are the people paying this lawyers not smart at all.. Don't they ask questions?

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by onuman: 9:37pm On Apr 11, 2023
Tntsi:
You cannot defend indefensible.
Druggie is in for it. He must personally show up to discuss this matter that he has managed to suppress and repress since 1999.

PODATTI has finally brought it to the world stage. Druggie must show up to testify.


1) President Buhari sidelined Tinubu immediately after the 2015 Presidential election - Tinubu's drug trafficking offences.
Nobody can even swear today that Buhari truly backs Tinubu to succeed him.

2) A president Goodluck Jonathan sidelined Tinubu - Tinubu's drug trafficking offences.
Tinubu started plot against Jonathan's downfall.

3) A president Yar'adua never had anything to do with Tinubu till he died -
Tinubu's drug trafficking offences.

4) A president Obasanjo sidelined Tinubu, and even denied then gov Tinubu any access to federal allocations to Lagos State for many years -
Tinubu's drug trafficking offences.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:37pm On Apr 11, 2023
Eriokanmi:
Lolz. Law is blind you said. We shall see
Ibori and Abiodun were both arrested and convicted, they eventually became Governors. Tinubu wasn't even arrested let alone convicted.

Yeah, let's see how the courts handles the case.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by PulaPower: 9:38pm On Apr 11, 2023
jaxxy:


he was because the charge were stated in court and the settlement was done by the court to avoid jail.

The courts have the records of the case.
Lol..

Settlement to avoid jail.. You people claimed tinubu was into drugs. Now you’re claiming he settled the court to avoid jail..

But tinubu wasn’t charged sha. Goodluck!

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by GogetterMD(m): 9:38pm On Apr 11, 2023
jaxxy:


These are facts from the documents.
But from those same documents, there was no criminal conviction for the accused

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Eriokanmi: 9:38pm On Apr 11, 2023
Comelysync:
what if someone transferred money into your account without your knowledge and it's drug money.. The only way the government can get the money from you is by a forfeiture by a court order, what if i have a friend who does not have an account in the USA and he claimed someone want to pay him money for a service or purchase and he needs a USA account you provide your account and the money was deposited, you didn't touch it only to find out it was drug money.. The only way the government to get the money is to find out is you are involved in the drug trade if you not.. The law same with Nigeria law with the USA is for the court to order a forfeiture the money that does not make you a criminal.
TO me tinubu adversaries are not knowledgeable enough. What they should have gone after is not the money or forfeiture but transcripts of what really led to the forfeiture...
This man has been a Senator, A governor now a President elect and President in few weeks time now all this while none of them tried to find out what really happened but wasting our time online and lawyers smiling away with millions from court.
Find out what really happened if he is innocent leave him alone abeg the country has spoken.. If he is not then bring ur facts out in court.. Let's move forward abeg.. Not all this nonsense issues of a case that have been thrashed 2 decades ago.. Are the people paying this lawyers not smart at all.. Don't they ask questions?
Interesting days ahead. Go and read what tinubu said in response. How can you receive such money without your knowledge when it wasn't Nigeria bank where anything goes? Tinubu claimed he shared an apartment with drug traffickers but didn't know what those guys did for a living but he went ahead and gave them over 5 bank accounts belonging to you? Haba! Only by miracle will he escape this. Now I know why Biden has refused to congratulate Tinubu. They had his records

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by simongonner: 9:39pm On Apr 11, 2023
Bennycollins:
BUT SERIOUSLY, LET US EVEN FORGET ABOUT THE ELECTION PETITION AND ALL TGE LEGAL SHENANIGANS HERE. WHAT WAS TINUBU DOING WITH TEN BANK ACCOUNTS?? HOW MANY BANK ACCOUNTS DO THE LIKES OF GATES, BEZOS, JOBS ETC HAVE? I MEAN WHO LEGITIMATELY RUNS TEN BANK ACCOUNTS IN AMERICA FOR THAT MATTER? THIS MAN CLEARLY IS MENTOR TO THOSE FRAUSTERS YOU SEE WITH OVER TEN ATM CARDS ON THE STREET. HE FORFEITED MONEY BASED ON THE ORDER TO FORFEIT, WHAT WARRANTED THE ORDER?
THAT IS THE MAN SET TO BECOME NIGERIA'S PRESIDENT. 😥
exactly. If TINUBU becomes president. Nigeria image will be stained further

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by jaxxy(m): 9:41pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

I have seen the original. About 8 pages. Nothing talks about arrest. He was even in Nigeria when the civil forfeiture took place and they were communicating with him by phone.

He was charged and the clourt documents state everything. infact since he was in Nigeria he might be a fugitive and could be arrested if he enters us soil.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:41pm On Apr 11, 2023
kokomilala:
Obidients Spin Untruths As Truths

From the litany of evidence, it's as clear as day that Tinubu was not convicted for any drug related crime. Yet, coconut-head, dimwits and slow-to-grasp Obidients, with fascist tendencies, would never accept this truth. It's either they spin it to support their blind arguments or they spew out fresh gibberish of untruths. Imagine one mentally deficient calling the US embassy a business centre?

I think they want the USA to open up a case that's already closed. I remember some saying the state of Illinois would send police officers or something like that to Nigeria grin grin grin

They want the state of Illinois to charge him so that Peter Obi or Atiku can be declared winner grin

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by jaxxy(m): 9:41pm On Apr 11, 2023
GogetterMD:

But from those same documents, there was no criminal conviction for the accused

The was a criminal settlement. if u plead guilty snd go for a settlement there won't be a need for conviction.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:42pm On Apr 11, 2023
jaxxy:


He was charged and the clourt documents state everything. infact since he was in Nigeria he might be a fugitive and could be arrested if he enters us soil.
He was charged yet his criminal record is clear grin grin grin

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by jaxxy(m): 9:43pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

He was charged yet his criminal record is clear grin grin grin

where is it clear? it means he didn't go to jail bt he was guilty of a crime.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:43pm On Apr 11, 2023
Creeper:


This is even unnecessary.

The excerpt below should be enough clarification:

It told the Presidential Election Petition Court, PEPC, sitting at the Court of Appeal in Abuja, that funds in the said accounts, which were domiciled in both First Heritage Bank and Citi Bank N. A, were subject to a “CIVIL FORFEITURE proceeding” in Case No: 93C4483.

It shows it’s a civil case and in saner climes, this petition would’ve been thrown out of court.

I think they’re more interested in character assassination and smear campaign - since they really know they have no case.
But Obidients don't read grin
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by broadman20: 9:44pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Peter Obi graduated with a 3rd in Philosophy.

Wole Soyinka graduated with a 2.1 from University College Ibadan 2 years and Uni Leeds (remaining 2 years).



Show us a prove,

Every Tom and Harry knows that Soyinka is a third class degree professor.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Comelysync: 9:44pm On Apr 11, 2023
Donake:
Nobody is asking of any arrest,warrant but to ask the investigative team to affirm what the civil o criminal forfeiture was for?

Can a government ask anybody to forfeit funds when there is no crime,fraud or illegal funds suspected to be routed through such accounts? The enquiry through the IGP isn't enough. Get a DEA agent to testify before the courts so these matters can be laid to rest.
yes a government can.. And you are right.. The lawyers should ask questions of what really happened that led to the forfeiture not bothering us with unnecessary issues, what if you have a foreign account and your friend asked you can you receive money for him on his behalf and you never knew where the money comes from and you think or trust your friend it was legit and it was done.. The FBI came knocking and you prove to them you actually knew nothing about it and you forfeited the money from your account will that make you a criminal? Unless maybe there was a plea bargain.. Even if there was what was the terms, just like you said I think at this point the American government should come out and tell the world what really happened and let this man Tinubu rest and face the task ahead.

Tinubu is our next president we like it or not.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by jaxxy(m): 9:44pm On Apr 11, 2023
PulaPower:

Lol..

Settlement to avoid jail.. You people claimed tinubu was into drugs. Now you’re claiming he settled the court to avoid jail..

But tinubu wasn’t charged sha. Goodluck!


He was charged. the court document state everything.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by abbey621(m): 9:46pm On Apr 11, 2023
Eriokanmi:
Then it means I'm culpable. There's no way such money would be deposited in my account without me knowing. If Tinubu wasn't culpable or didn't abate that crime, he wouldn't have allowed that money to be forfeited that way.

Mind you, I once lived and worked in America and had bank accounts. You can't even accept one dollar to be paid into your account if you know you won't be able to defend it. You won't allow your name to be dented too cos you could go to jail. Every penny counts. The law works there for and against everyone, unlike here in Nigeria where the law was made only for only the masses.

Stop capping! I have worked in America's I.T and financial industry for over 13 years now and I can tell you the money laundering landscape in the 80s and 90s is completely different to what we have now post 9-11. It's the same principle how the whites are falling for yahoo scams in which they think they are accepting legit money from clients not knowing it is proceeds from crime. Go and ask any veteran yahoo guy, he'll tell you how easy it was in the 90s and early 2000s compared to now, ordinary checks wey dey clear immediately now you got to wait at least 2-5 days for the full amount, life evolves.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Comelysync: 9:46pm On Apr 11, 2023
Eriokanmi:
Interesting days ahead. Go and read what tinubu said in response. How can you receive such money without your knowledge when it wasn't Nigeria bank where anything goes? Tinubu claimed he shared an apartment with drug traffickers but didn't know what those guys did for a living but he went ahead and gave them over 5 bank accounts belonging to you? Haba! Only by miracle will he escape this. Now I know why Biden has refused to congratulate Tinubu. They had his records
can you please share me the link to his story please.. Don't get me wrong am not holding brief for him.. But is it not too late bringing this to dispute his Presidential mandate he won? Share me the links please thanks.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by abbey621(m): 9:47pm On Apr 11, 2023
babyfaceafrica:


He has a point though.

If you buy car from a yahoo boy without knowing he is into fraud ... If police catch you, they will just collect the car back.. You will only be in problem, if the Yahoo boy claims he told you he bought the car from fraud

For 9ja or for where? I pray you never get yourself into such a situation, you go shout Allahuakbar!
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by daragrams(m): 9:47pm On Apr 11, 2023
Some people are calling American embassies business centres yet they do all they can to get Visas from same business centres.

Those calling embassies business centres will never get anything good from it.

We are sowing seeds now
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by KPGGlobal: 9:48pm On Apr 11, 2023
DatNiggaDaz:
This is so funny. The defense is like sitting in a Circus Show and paying attention to comedians/clowns spiiting/performing jokes. grin

God help Nigeria



It is so difficult to defend fraud
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by abbey621(m): 9:48pm On Apr 11, 2023
Stevosty:
Your analogy does not follow, if a yahoo boy came to you, bought a car, and a house, will the money the fraudster paid you be returned? Why should you buy a stolen phone?

Let police or FBI get involved, you go spit grammar tire. Ignorance is not an excuse in the eye of the law!
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by IRIEBOY(m): 9:49pm On Apr 11, 2023
PulaPower:
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Bone of contention is..

Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by kokomilala(m): 9:50pm On Apr 11, 2023
@Raskimonojendor , abi o! They are dreamers
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by MrAgbako: 9:50pm On Apr 11, 2023
Gucciblog:


Me wey no be even Lawyer go carry lighter burn this kind defense brought by APC. Kai.

Well, for those that care to hear what APC said as reason for the forfeiture;

The forfeiture order was made against the bank account of Bola Tinubu and not the person of Bola Tinubu, claims BAT.

With this, all the boys EFCC are arrested in regards bank fraud can now appeal there cases.
Na their account get case no be them 😆 😂

APC'S defense be like

Omo that evidence of tinubu doing drug in the USA u must bring out out now for obi lawyers o. Save your religion warrior o. He is about to sink big time.
😂
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Tinubuderanged: 9:51pm On Apr 11, 2023
This is the worst defense I had ever seen in my life. So America only have a case with the money but not the account and the account holder? Abeg APC should not allow me fall from bicycle with laugh.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:51pm On Apr 11, 2023
broadman20:




Show us a prove,

Every Tom and Harry knows that Soyinka is a third class degree professor.
You better go and read your book and don't let a motivational speaker tell you that you can make it with a 3rd class.

https://archive.businessday.ng/uncategorized/article/soyinkas-mythical-third-class-and-our-excuse-for-failure/#:~:text=Titled%20'I%20didn't%20make,as%20widely%20believed%20by%20Nigerians.

Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by onuman: 9:52pm On Apr 11, 2023
PulaPower:
Furthermore, the release from forfeiture of other monies in the account the subject of the proceedings in Case No: 93C4483; in excess of one million dollars and for the benefit of the named beneficiary K.O Tinubu though not the account holder, less forfeited sum of $460,000.00 (Four Hundred and Sixty Thousand United States Dollars) is a manifest affirmation that the case was not a criminal trial and the fund forfeited was not a fine imposed as a punishment for a criminal conviction of any person- let alone the 2nd Respondent.

“The disqualification factors as stipulated by the Constitution only conceives of a conviction sentence or fine involving dishonesty or fraud or contravention of the Code of Conduct as found by a Court of the law of competent jurisdiction or Tribunal in Nigeria,” it added.

Tinubu was never indicted nor convicted for any drug related crime or any other crime in USA..

Beware of false documents.
Tinubu's forfeiture of $460000 to a government and the government still wrote that it had no record of crimes against the person who forfeited the money?
Forfeiture is not the same as petty fine which one pays for minor offences like drunk driving, driving without a licence, driving an off-road vehicle, and other misdemeanours.
For Tinubu to have forfeited that huge sum of money implies there was a criminal offence committed by Tinubu.

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