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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 10:12pm On Apr 11, 2023
IjeBos:
Tinubu is a drug dealer. The FBI/DOJ doesn't get these things wrong. The troubling thing is that they didn't charge him. Seems like they had a pretty good case seeing the money was in his account. Makes me wonder what else he gave up or is still giving up in exchange for that to happen. His story of how he came to get that money is mind numbing incoherent.

People's defense of him esp. in this thread is part in parcel of why Nigeria is the way it is. Just be honest and say, "I don't care what he did, I want him to be President for <insert reasons here>."

Gbam. How he escaped not being charged especially for a drug offense is what is surprising, but I read that this type of cases of civil forfeiture were common in that period.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by tonididdy(m): 10:13pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Restitution will only lower sentencing.

Please note: I am not saying Tinubu's hands are clean. Don't get me wrong. What I am saying is that in this case, as per law, he walked away unscathed. The only hit he took was a dent to his reputation.

Wteva
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by legallysly: 10:13pm On Apr 11, 2023
Islie:
….insists he was not convicted of crime




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/04/alleged-drug-case-why-tinubu-forfeited-460000-in-us-apc-tells-court/

Checkmate. No way back for Obi and LP's Petition after this.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by shogz89: 10:14pm On Apr 11, 2023
KPGGlobal:




Money was paid into your account and u no know the source


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


APC OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


The owners of the account and tinubu share the same address ooooooooooooooooooooooo


Keep deceiving yourself oooooooooo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDcncchnrwY


GOAN READ For yourself

Dont assume or peddle rumour

READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is not even a question Bro, in this same Nigeria money will be paid in to your account in error.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by abbey621(m): 10:14pm On Apr 11, 2023
onuman:



Nobody anywhere would allow such huge amount of money be paid into his account without asking for, or knowing the source of the money, even in the 1950s. Tinubu was supposed to know more about that because he claims he worked as an Accountant in America then. Don't lie anymore, as you did in the bolded above.

Onuman your mumu never reach? I know say you hate Tinubu but just small research online would stop you from making a fool of yourself, those of us wey dey the financial and I.T industry here in America know what KYC and AML don use our eyes see compared to our fathers and uncles in the 80s and 90s.....Anyways ignorance is bliss my guy..... grin

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by KPGGlobal: 10:16pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Olodo


One can forfeit and still go to jail. If a yahoo boy scams someone, and runs away with the cash..police will not only seize the Mercedes he buys from the cash, they will also send him to jail. grin


So in summary you are saying that tinubu forfeited the money because?


Can I get an answer to this question please?
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 10:16pm On Apr 11, 2023
tonididdy:


Wteva
Have a good afternoon.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Believeintruth: 10:17pm On Apr 11, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
“The Respondent states that, in any event, the impleaded decision of the United States District Court, Northern District of Illinois Eastern Division is not a decision by a competent court of law or tribunal in Nigeria; and same has been falsely, mischievously paraded by 2nd Respondent’s political adversaries like the petitioners, detractors and haters to scandalize, demonize and de-market him to the Nigerian electorate at the 25th February 2023 general election with a view to delegitimizing his well-earned victory at the polls, despite all legitimate and fact-checked denials and rebuttals as exemplified by the official report from the United States affirming his innocence and exonerating him from the touted drug connection and criminal conviction.

This part is pregnant. It officially links Mr Obi with all the slanderers and criminal defamers cyberbullies working for Mr Obi online.
Asiwaju team means real business when it told them their days are numbered and will face the law. Mr Obi is already facing the law as the pronouncement in this regard can be very costly to Mr Obi

Dude are you really showing that you have sense with your response? The defence put forward by Tinubu's lawyers is really hollow walahi
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by tinsel: 10:18pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

But Obidients don't read grin
They are following what David Hundeyin feeds them

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by IRIEBOY(m): 10:19pm On Apr 11, 2023
tonididdy:

Lol you just spew words outta yor axx.

How's forfeiture a penalty?
Forfeiture is of two choices when it con signs government.
It's like bail.
Forfeit or go to jail.
Govt will never ask you to forfeit legitimate money.

Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 10:20pm On Apr 11, 2023
KPGGlobal:



So in summary you are saying that tinubu forfeited the money because?


Can I get an answer to this question please?
The police believed it was proceed from a drug related offence. Hence, the civil forfeiture.

Why he wasn't arrested or charged, or indicted or convicted (even in absentia) like Senator Buruji Kasamu is what I do not know. Any of those would have led to a criminal forfeiture.

Basically he walks away free without a criminal record to his name in America.

I am returning to work. It's 3.21pm where I am. Have a good night.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 10:21pm On Apr 11, 2023
tinsel:

They are following what David Hundeyin feeds them
I can tell. cheesy
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Believeintruth: 10:21pm On Apr 11, 2023
shogz89:


this is not even a question Bro, in this same Nigeria money will be paid in to your account in error.

Haaaaa!!!!!!! Fear God oooo so they paid $460k to Tinubu's account in error abi. And instead of going to the bank to investigate, he forfeited to the US government abi!!!! Ahhhh this is gaslighting probably walahi.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by IjeBos(m): 10:22pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Gbam. How he escaped not being charged especially for a drug offense is what is surprising, but I read that this type of cases of civil forfeiture were common in that period.

Yah, I don't know. When I read it during the election, was pretty surprised he wasn't charged given the level of detail in the article(below).
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hWe-OcI_EPQJ:https://www.thedailybeast.com/nigerian-pres-svengali-tied-to-heroin&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by princenaira(m): 10:23pm On Apr 11, 2023
aceman88:


According to the write-up, APC's argument here is that, the American Court was not against Tinubu but the various sums of money lodged in his account ooo.

So those crucifying Tinubu should free him ooo because the guilty person here is his money which American Court has arrested and prosecuted and not his very person who is innocent. In APC's voice ooo

Wonders
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by jaxxy(m): 10:23pm On Apr 11, 2023
GogetterMD:


Brethren scroll up, you'd find an appropriate response in my previous posts and exchanges with jaxxy

This wasn't money in a boat or house. it was in his personal account.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Tsamyavictor(m): 10:23pm On Apr 11, 2023
Pls read this to comprehend and not just to troll... Atleast for all those holding onto this tightly you can now let go.. Even the Nigerian Police have verified this far back 2003.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by 43Ronin: 10:24pm On Apr 11, 2023
PulaPower:
Furthermore, the release from forfeiture of other monies in the account the subject of the proceedings in Case No: 93C4483; in excess of one million dollars and for the benefit of the named beneficiary K.O Tinubu though not the account holder, less forfeited sum of $460,000.00 (Four Hundred and Sixty Thousand United States Dollars) is a manifest affirmation that the case was not a criminal trial and the fund forfeited was not a fine imposed as a punishment for a criminal conviction of any person- let alone the 2nd Respondent.


Tinubu was never indicted nor convicted for any drug related crime or any other crime in USA..
Please stop this! Lawyer or not we saw court documents and prosecution stating that the forfeiture was for heroine related case.... Stop showing US consulate letters and IGP they are not concrete evidence. If you guys wana do a good job, subpoena the FBI or the Chicago state Court for unclassified docs they will release to you with joy. I have helped you paste it below, pls can you or can you not see narcotics trafficking as reason for the forfeiture? The US govt also gave then the chance to come dispute but he never came cos he knew in the 90s racism was still an ish and he's black ass would have been incarcerated.
I also heard Kevin moss is coming to testify cheesy pray it's not true, cos that would be the final nail to the coffin. The judges will avoid a wrong judgement like plague.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by harmony75: 10:26pm On Apr 11, 2023
Mmmm all these grammar to cover up crime apc see how you missed a gentleman Osinbanjo and went for drug money. See all the talk to prove innocence!??!
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by ChineduAPC: 10:27pm On Apr 11, 2023
colorsofrainbow:


Then,OBJ had no solid direct evidence as it is now. Was more like a rumour at that time.. Now,all the documents regarding the criminal drug case are intact & dug out with witnesses in line. Don't try to compare this to obj cos u will be making huge mistakes on that basis.

Dunce, failure fromthe beginning.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by IRIEBOY(m): 10:27pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

The police believed it was proceed from a drug related offence. Hence, the civil forfeiture.

Why he wasn't arrested or charged, or indicted or convicted (even in absentia) like Senator Buruji Kasamu is what I do not know. Any of those would have led to a criminal forfeiture.

Basically he walks away free without a criminal record to his name in America.

I am returning to work. It's 3.21pm where I am. Have a good night.
so you even dey better country, then dey support rubbish party and drug lord for Nigeria..
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by KPGGlobal: 10:27pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

The police believed it was proceed from a drug related offence. Hence, the civil forfeiture.

Why he wasn't arrested or charged, or indicted or convicted (even in absentia) like Senator Buruji Kasamu is what I do not know. Any of those would have led to a criminal forfeiture.

Basically he walks away free without a criminal record to his name in America.

I am returning to work. It's 3.21pm where I am. Have a good night.



SO Someone who meddles with DRUG Dealers should now become the president of NIGERIA Sir?


IF YOU DO NOT KNOW, As I do not have the full picture, IS IT NOT BETTER TO CALL THE POLICE OR THE FBI Who treated the CASE to Testify


Not US Embassy replying to BALOGUN WHO WAS A KNOWN THIEF AS IGP?


Go to work wherever you are! I wish you well in whatever you do provided it is not crime!

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by MultiDot: 10:28pm On Apr 11, 2023
APC is really a congregation of All Professional Criminals and their legal team must be made up comedians to contemplate this charade as a defence. It shows the level of regard they have for Nigerians and our legal system. God forbid BAT Thing!
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 10:29pm On Apr 11, 2023
IRIEBOY:
so you even dey better country, then dey support rubbish party and drug lord for Nigeria..
I work in the energy industry and spent most of my time in Nigeria.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by onuman: 10:30pm On Apr 11, 2023
abbey621:


Onuman your mumu never reach? I know say you hate Tinubu but just small research online would stop you from making a fool of yourself, those of us wey dey the financial and I.T industry here in America know what KYC and AML don use our eyes see compared to our fathers and uncles in the 80s and 90s.....Anyways ignorance is bliss my guy..... grin


Your mumu is hitting sky level. Even the most foolish person in any 1950s industry wouldn't allow huge sums of money deposited in his account without first ascertaining the source of the money.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 10:30pm On Apr 11, 2023
KPGGlobal:




SO Someone who meddles with DRUG Dealers should now become the president of NIGERIA Sir?


IF YOU DO NOT KNOW, As I do not have the full picture, IS IT NOT BETTER TO CALL THE POLICE OR THE FBI Who treated the CASE to Testify


Not US Embassy replying to BALOGUN WHO WAS A KNOWN THIEF AS IGP?


Go to work wherever you are! I wish you well in whatever you do provided it is not crime!
I understand that emotions may run high. We may call him a drug lord, a mafiasol e.t.c. but the law is the law.

Thanks. I wish you well too. 🙏

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by KPGGlobal: 10:30pm On Apr 11, 2023
Daguga:


grin


Walai


ITS very difficult to defend evil ooooooooooooooooooooo


How do these guys sleep at night?
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Gentew(m): 10:33pm On Apr 11, 2023
Tntsi:
You cannot defend indefensible.
Druggie is in for it. He must personally show up to discuss this matter that he has managed to suppress and repress since 1999.

PODATTI has finally brought it to the world stage. Druggie must show up to testify.

Children of hate!!! I knew you wouldn't like this clarification as far as it exonerated a Yoruba man.

Bigotry is in your blood!!!

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by REALretep(m): 10:34pm On Apr 11, 2023
Islie:
….insists he was not convicted of crime


According to the APC, the purported decision of the United State District Court Northern District of Illinois, Eastern division in the said case, was not a fine but a decree of forfeiture of the amount of $460,000 to the United State pursuant to the settlement of claim by the parties to the case.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/04/alleged-drug-case-why-tinubu-forfeited-460000-in-us-apc-tells-court/
Blowing big grammar that lacks substance. Which one is "...pursuant to the settlement of claim by the parties to the case." The parties to the case were the government and Tinubu, and the said funds were forfeited to the government, being proceeds of illicit drug trade. No big grammar can hide the fact that Tinubu's account was used for illicit drug trade. The whole world knows that.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by IRIEBOY(m): 10:34pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

I work in the oil industry and spent most of my time in Nigeria.
okay. All the best

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by missade(f): 10:34pm On Apr 11, 2023
I have perused all documents that are in the public and although I am yet to see Tinubu's court defense and affidavit that he put up; these are my deducements:

1) This was a civil case and by such no criminal arrests/convictions were made.

2) The US Govt filed to have all the sums 0f $1.4mm forfeited but Tinubu fought back and through a settlement agreement he eventually had forfeited that $460k. This tells me not all funds in the account were traced to illegal activity OR the US couldnt prove the entirety of the sums were from illegal source. Noteworthy is the fact that the DEA/FBI have a conviction rate of 99%

3) The DEA ALWAYS prosecutes drug dealers, accountants and accomplices in criminal suits. Even if there will be a forfeiture, or even a plea bargain the defendant MUST go on record to admit guilt. However, in this case there wasnt a conviction or even a criminal trial which drug trafficking demands and furthermore, the US Govt put a caveat stating that Tinubu is prohibited from suing the Govt in future for this same forfeiture. That is very strange because it seems like they were bargaining with a ''criminal'' and afraid that the criminal will sue in the future. On what grounds will someone who committed a crime be suing? Like why is that caveat there?

I believe that Tinubu still needs to come out to say exactly what transpired as this will undoubtedly affect the image of the country, he is responding to the petitions on technical grounds from what I understand. Yet, it is not enough to me, people genuinely want to know what transpired and come to a fair conclusion. Perhaps going into the hearings proper, more light will be shed. Until i see the documents that he filed in his own defense in the US court, I will have questions that still needs answers.

Back to the petitions filed, the onus is on LP to prove that this was a criminal suit, that he was charged and convicted in court and that the forfeiture was due to his direct involvement in the illicit drug case. This is the bone of contention

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