Freebills12:
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As we suspected so the story line has changed, it is no longer that he lived in a room with a drug dealer that made US govt to charge them to court, and so the storyline is no longer that Tinibu owned financial institution and people deposited drug money in them... It is now that people opened account in his name and deposited drug money! US will sent an agent to testified what is CTC of Tinibu's forfeiture. You people played in Obi's hand.

Lol..

Case wey them don close?

Goodluck to you and your USA agent..

Keep fooling yourself when there is already an indictment and forfeiture in the U.S. on drug related charges.
The jokes on you

PulaPower:

E pain you say Wetin you wan hear no happen.

The fact that he wasn’t indicted would give you people migraine for a long time shuu..

Islie:
….insists he was not convicted of crime




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/04/alleged-drug-case-why-tinubu-forfeited-460000-in-us-apc-tells-court/

APC are simply gang of crooks trying to stand logic on it head,was Tinubu not an associate of whoever open the account in his name?,what was the account of the US court regarding Tinubu n the funds in his accounts?,can one just be decreed to forfeit his hard earned money just like that without committing any offense?, it's really a big disgrace that a character like Tinubu whose life is totally embedded in controversy opaqueness n criminality should even be allowed to stand for any elections in Nigeria except the judges choose to be partial n sentimental, Tinubu would loose.

Tinubu's surpporters deceiving themselves on this thread. How can you earn 'clean' money and forfeit it to government through plea bargain in court? Why did Tinubu forfeit such huge amount of money? Was drug (heroin) case not a criminal case in US?


heliues duro4chang lhordspy seunmsg madridguy Ttalk PandoraObi FreeStuffsNG yarimo Afamed drlateef satan06 DevilAdvocate LeoDeKing and other defenders of a drug baron.

alade00:

And how are you going to do that? Thru the 🇺🇸 embassy that already cleared him?

Joke of the year...

The US Embassy is not a law court...

And that is if there is any clearance in the first place...

APC is known for propaganda so a little scrutiny will expose their falsehood and hollowness...

abbey621:


I'm going to give you scenarios from my mentor when I just started in the financial industry:

You run a business to business(B2B) company in which you supply drinkable water to corporations/wealthy clients. You deal with hundreds or even thousands of clients each month, in the 90s which tools existed to make sure none of these clients were doing illegal shit for money?

Okay you do a criminal background check? Nothing comes up as these individuals are outstanding citizens. What else? Unknown to you, these wealthy clients with legitimate businesses are actually using the businesses to wash/launder their dirty money(drugs, trafficking etc). Mr. genius/magician, what tools could you have used to discover this and save yourself from complicity?

Scenario 2:

You are an investment banker, you help wealthy people manage/grow their funds, your clients invests average 100k to 1 million per year, in the 80s how do you verify income? Bank statement? Tax return? Nothing shows up as once again these are outstanding citizens

Unknown to you, these wealthy clients with legitimate businesses are actually using the businesses to wash/launder their dirty money(drugs, trafficking etc). Mr. genius/magician, what tools could you have used to discover this and save yourself from complicity?

Answer professor, since you are all knowing and omnipresent

Dude, the 2 scenarios you presented NEVER matched Tinubu's case.

Tinubu was not doing buying and selling then.
Tinubu was not a banker, talkless, an investment banker then.
He was a salaried employee of a company then, according to his claims.
No salaried employee would watch millions of dollars paid into his bank account by anybody else without knowing the source of the money. Tinubu was hiding money in his bank account on behalf of drug trafficking cartels.

Islie:
….insists he was not convicted of crime




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/04/alleged-drug-case-why-tinubu-forfeited-460000-in-us-apc-tells-court/

what is the full meaning of K.O tinubu pls?

maestroferddi:
Joke of the year...

The US Embassy is not a law court...

And that is if there is any clearance in the first place...

APC is known for propaganda so a little scrutiny will expose their falsehood and hollowness...

Any clerk in an embassy can be paid million dollars to produce that document, and face jail term, if caught.
It's a question of risk and benefits for the clerk. A country ordered someone to forfeit $460000 to its government coffers but has no record of crimes committed that warranted the forfeiture. Hard to believe.

colorsofrainbow:
Lol na dis dundee defence APC come up with?

did you read it atll . U will understand that your guys guys petition holds no weight on this drug issue.

onuman:


Dude, the 2 scenarios you presented NEVER matched Tinubu's case.

Tinubu was not doing buying and selling then.
Tinubu was not a banker, talkless, an investment banker then.
He was a salaried employee of a company then, according to his claims.
No salaried employee would watch millions of dollars paid into his bank account by anybody else without knowing the source of the money. Tinubu was hiding money in his bank account on behalf of drug trafficking cartels.

you people don’t read to understand, o the petition that tinubu is not a real candidate this particular one did not hold any water , because if he was indicted for any reason he wount be fit but since he was not indicted it simply means he is a valid candidate. That’s all even if he Carrie’s drug on his head since he was not indicted and it’s been 29 years . Our constitution gives a Greg area . So don’t read with sentiments, be realistic with ursef

With all due respect , mate you are senseless. Just forget anything you want to say or do to defend your senseless situation.


quote author=citygarden post=122450558]Finger Cross, tinubu will win this case. Is dead on arrival. Obi only want to try his luck. You can see the petition obi wrote to the court. He only want the Court to disqualify tinubu and court should order fresh election. He didn't claim he won the election as stated before he went to court. This case of drug have been tested in the courts doing obasanjo regime tinubu won upon being opposition to the government . Talk less of when is now awaiting gcfr. [/quote]

OgaSeun:


Mumu, it has never been denied

See how you're insulting your father this morning

No case to answer.
If Nigerians don't love Tinubu but they can't stop loving APC who produced Tinubu therefore Tinubu is loved by Nigerians and they will protect and support him all through the next 8yrs!

UNDFTD:
APC and the likes of Funny Food Kayode and Fraudstus Keyamo might insist that the Drug Baron-in-Chief, Tiefnubu, was NOT indicted for drug trafficking. That may be true but to claim that his forfeiture was a civil case is a lie. The truth of the matter was that Tiefnubu forfeited the amount of $446,000 under a Criminal Statute 18 U.S. Code § 1956 & 1957 and NOT under a Civil Statute. Below are the facts of the case and the findings by the United States District Court, Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division in 1993:

1. That there was in fact a proceeding in the United States District Court Northern District of Illinois Eastern Division in 1993 in which the United States of America was the Plaintiff and the funds in 10 accounts held by Bola Tinubu and Compass Finance and Investment Co. at First Heritage Bank and Citi Bank International in the United States were the Defendants. 



2. The substance of the application filed by the United States Attorney was an in rem forfeiture case brought pursuant to 22 U.S.C.
Section 881 and 18 U.S.C. Section 981 which provides for the forfeiture of property representing the proceeds of drug trafficking and property involved in money laundering.” 



3. Bola Tinubu defended the said publication through his counsel Patrick S. Coffey and there was a stipulation and compromise
settlement (plea bargain) of claims to the funds held by Heritage Bank and Citi Bank.


4. The United States and the Individual Claimants i.e. Bola Tinubu and others agreed to settle and to compromise (plea bargain) this
action upon terms previously presented to the court. 



5. The court made the following findings “The United States filed a verified complaint for forfeitures against the funds in the above-captioned defendant accounts because there was probable cause to believe that the property represented proceeds of narcotics trafficking or was
property involved in financial transactions in violation of 18 U.S. Code § 1956 & 1957 and therefore was forfeitable to the United States pursuant to 21 U.S.C. Section 881 (a) 6 and 18 U.S.C. 981. The funds in the defendant's accounts were seized initially by seizure warrants.”



6. From the findings of the court, Bola Tinubu has admitted and acknowledged that the funds traced to his account represented
proceeds of narcotics trafficking or property involved in financial transactions in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1956 and 1957 and therefore was forfeitable to the United States pursuant to 21 U.S.C. Section 881 (a) and 18 U.S.C. 981. The funds in the defendant's accounts were seized initially by seizure warrants.



7. Following from (6) above, Bola Tinubu has also admitted that he was involved in laundering proceeds of drug trafficking in the United States of America and the proceeds of such illicit drugs or money laundering in the amount of 460,000 US dollars be forfeited to the United States Government. 



8. Although Bola Tinubu was not charged to court for trafficking in narcotics, he was nonetheless indicted for laundering proceeds of drug trafficking being financial transactions forfeitable to the United States Government. 



9. Bola Tinubu opted for a settlement (plea bargain) so that he would not forfeit the whole money. He would have forfeited the whole money if the matter had gone through a full trial. 




So, it's very disingenuous of Tiefnubu's acolytes and supporters to try to use semantics to try to deceive Nigerians who are legally savvy.

he was not indicted and this has to say his candidacy is not to be contested so therefore the petition of he not been a lawful candidate his in the rubish .

Onyiridike:

Stop this joke. Nobody mistakenly transferred money to Tinubu's account. They were friends in the same business.
It is easy to get the name of the depositor and the account's name used and the relationship between the duo.

if you can comprehend what i wrote, It was an analogy.

Islie:
….insists he was not convicted of crime




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/04/alleged-drug-case-why-tinubu-forfeited-460000-in-us-apc-tells-court/

now I see people read but choose to understand what Dey want to understand. The petition by obi is tinubu is not qualified because of the drug case that indicted him . But it now or ever been proven that he was never indicted or taken to any court of law which does not make him an ex convict or anything of such so therefore he his as legal has atiku under the constitution but obi on the other hand is not legally qualified because of the 30days window from PDP to LP with was not properly done for that obi is not a legal candidate under the constitution. This matter go long gan.

SmartPolician:
Wole Olanipekun and his defence counsel can write or claim anything in defence of Tinubu, but they should stop making reference to US consulate or embassy in Nigeria. An embassy in a foreign country is just a business centre and will never get involved in your local politics in a way that it jeopardizes their business interests.

By the way, I didn't see anything convincing in defence of why Tinubu forfeited $460k on drug-related offenses. On no grounds will any legit citizen work hard, save up such an amount and forfeit it to the state. We are talking about over #300 million here.

This case isn't just about the morality of justices who will hear it, but where Nigeria stands on the war against narcotics and being an enabler of drug-related criminality.

Is this war against narcotics? Or war against Tinubu? Oga please be specific

This alone tells you how great a man tinubu is; despite the disgruntling, rancor and tribalistic-religious enemism, he has not shaked a bit... I dont know when we will get wish. Between tinubu and obi who has a better political background; take us to how tinubu left lagos state and how obi anambra which will you? Is it lagos that has a structure to build on or anambra with no concrete structure. He is old,he is old. What is the age difference between obi and tinubu is it up to 10 years? We need someone who at least has a matching power to face the kabals... Is obi better than goodluck jonathan?hell fat no. I admire tinubu for resiliance and leadership.... Not obi who is feeding on the vunerabolity of the youths because of lekki shootings anger and buhari's incompetence. We youths he is younger so, he is the best for the position....how old is joe biden?? Eatern youths believes witb obi they can have biafra....my dear think wish

It's good to fight it out in d law court but if una go here me I d plead make we leave and allow mr tinubu to finish it.come to tink of it for dat 29yrs as d SAN said Mr tinubu d president elect don ever enter usa ? If not y y y I reserve my English

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE APC,GO TO COURT OR GO BACK TO IPOBLAND.

colorsofrainbow:


Then,OBJ had no solid direct evidence as it is now. Was more like a rumour at that time.. Now,all the documents regarding the criminal drug case are intact & dug out with witnesses in line. Don't try to compare this to obj cos u will be making huge mistakes on that basis.

You are lying. All the evidences were available then and were presented. The only difference is that social media were not around to circulate them

PulaPower:

I'm clarifying that a civil forfeiture is different from criminal justice financial obligations. This was why tinubu wasn't charged for any wrong doing..

The money he forfeited isn't his own personal money. IRS traced the money and found it was money from drug proceedings..

Tinubu was an accountant in USA with many clients. Any of his clients might have used his account without telling him the source of the money..

IRS forwarded the case to DEA/FBI, both found tinubu not to be involved in the drug whatever. This was why tinubu was never arrested, no indicted, nor charged!

The case was closed after forfeiting the money and it ends their..

If you buy a stolen phone in USA unknowingly, you'll forfeit it but won't be charged.

Infact, I read a case of a woman that embezzled money to finance her kids wedding. All the clothings they bought with the money were forfeited . E no concern USA say them don wear ham before. But that doesn’t mean everyone that wore the cloths the woman bought were charged. They just forfeited and that’s all!

Tinubu was an accountant in USA with many clients.

this is a new one. i thought you guys have always been about how tinubu was an accountant with Mobil. when did mobil become "many clients"? wasnt he an employee?

who are these his "many clients"? how do you know that he had "many clients"?

Any of his clients might have used his account without telling him the source of the money..

did you miss this part of the story?

It listed the 10 account numbers that contained funds that Tinubu forfeited after the settlement of claim by parties involved in the case, as: 263226700, 39483134, 39483396, 4650279566, 00400220, 39936404, 39936383, 52050-89451952, 52050-89451952 and 52050-89451953.

what was one man doing with 10 accounts?

lexy2014:




this is a new one. i thought you guys have always been about how tinubu was an accountant with Mobil. when did mobil become "many clients"? wasnt he an employee?

who are these his "many clients"? how do you know that he had "many clients"?



did you miss this part of the story?



what was one man doing with 10 accounts?

You need to ask google some questions like:
Can you legally own many accounts in USA?
Is it possible to have a private accountant in USA?
Is it possible for an accountant has many clients in USA?

I’m sure you’ll get your answers..

Guestlander:
Obi is grasping at straws.

He and his Ibo lawyers are just empty heads.

alade00:

He was guilty and forfeited to avoid jail?,this is a drug case we are talking about and it's very serious in US,Tinubu wasn't arrested,no mugshot or record of his arrest

he wasn't in the US during the case from what I learnt. just like diezani wasn't in Nigeria for her case.

This still means that Tinubu is a money launderer

Tmrw, they will say he dashed it to the govt as he was feeling generous.

Allardyce:
They are admitting that he forfeited that huge sum.
Good, dem go hear am

Some of you guys are too emotional. I know whatever you read here , you won't take it untill your Obi is disgrace.

Hope you know dollar to naira rate in 1992 when the forfeiture happen? You all will be fine.

PulaPower:

You need to ask google some questions like:
Can you legally own many accounts in USA?
Is it possible to have a private accountant in USA?
Is it possible for an accountant has many clients in USA?

I’m sure you’ll get your answers..

since you are making reference to google, then you shouldnt have any problems answering the questions. use your google to answer.

Tinubu was an accountant in USA with many clients.

1. this is a new one. i thought you guys have always been about how tinubu was an accountant with Mobil?
2. when did mobil become "many clients"? wasnt he an employee?

3. who are these his "many clients"? how do you know that he had "many clients"?

Any of his clients might have used his account without telling him the source of the money..

4. did you miss this part of the story?

It listed the 10 account numbers that contained funds that Tinubu forfeited after the settlement of claim by parties involved in the case, as: 263226700, 39483134, 39483396, 4650279566, 00400220, 39936404, 39936383, 52050-89451952, 52050-89451952 and 52050-89451953.

5. what was one man doing with 10 accounts?

PulaPower:

I'm clarifying that a civil forfeiture is different from criminal justice financial obligations. This was why tinubu wasn't charged for any wrong doing..

The money he forfeited isn't his own personal money. IRS traced the money and found it was money from drug proceedings..

Tinubu was an accountant in USA with many clients. Any of his clients might have used his account without telling him the source of the money..

IRS forwarded the case to DEA/FBI, both found tinubu not to be involved in the drug whatever. This was why tinubu was never arrested, no indicted, nor charged!

The case was closed after forfeiting the money and it ends their..

If you buy a stolen phone in USA unknowingly, you'll forfeit it but won't be charged.

Infact, I read a case of a woman that embezzled money to finance her kids wedding. All the clothings they bought with the money were forfeited . E no concern USA say them don wear ham before. But that doesn’t mean everyone that wore the cloths the woman bought were charged. They just forfeited and that’s all!

is this not a defence?

lexy2014:


is this not a defence?

Defense Keh..

You asked a question and i answered. How’s that a defense?