We understand.... Tinubu gave inec 3bn to defend the stolen mandate. Let's see how it goes.

But altering result is compulsory abi?

CilicMarin:


Jonnyessence the dull guy...You no dey tire to fail?

you will continue to wail for the rest of your life. Since you are ready to say the truths, the truths has been spoken and it will be bursting all lies and propaganda in the public space

This man is CORNfed and therefore CORNfused. Are we talking about electronic COLLATION or electronic TRANSMISSION? The result is generated manually from the polling unit through voting and then snapped and transmitted electronically to IRev portal. Yakubu and Tinubu must vomit the stolen mandate. Right now the mandate is hanging in their throats. They must vomit it or both of them will be choked to death.

Mumusaphire:
But yakub said results will be sent to main server from polling units.

That's an innovation he wanted to do but the obidients were over zealous, they overstepped their boundary and wanted to hack the INEC server, so the Prof has to retract from his earlier pledge, it's not a big deal

tunjilana:


And did this guideline also tell you that the electronic upload will be done on election day, did it tell you that the portal will be the basis of collation or just a medium for people to see results?... If you write CBT exam in your school and the sch authority says that they will email your result to you but later decided to post it in your faculty, does that have any bearing on the score you got in the exam....

The ACT is superior to any oerational procedure or guideline released by INEC and as long as what INEC did doesnt contradict the ACT, it is fair game

At least there is already an admission from you that there was indeed e-transmission being mandatory as contained in the guidelines and regulations in INEC which is an extension of the electoral act!

Now that that is by the way,let's go to you other issue where you insinuated the time of upload of the results!
If you read the guidelines and regulations without sentiment, you will see that e-transmission was supposed to be done from the polling unit which implies that upload to the IREV was meant to be done that day as soon as elections were concluded in that PU!
Once the results are announced at the PU,a copy will be given to party agents while a copy of the result is scanned and sent from the PU to the IREV not from the collation centre as was observed!
This is public knowledge!

Your example using CBT exams is not substantial enough!
The school decides when you are to collect your results after the exams have been conducted and all the students are aware of it!
In the case of INEC,they have adopted a mode of transmission which is contained in their own guidelines!
The guidelines and regulations of INEC is an extension of the electoral laws!
If the electoral laws or acts mandates INEC to decide which mode of transmission to use,the law has simply granted INEC the leverage and authority hence the guidelines and regulations of INEC is as powerful as the laws itself!
INEC cannot go against their own guidelines and regulations or even decide when to obey or disobey their own guidelines!

You need to be tracked down and arrested for this your stupid statement.Were you there ? talks sensibly.............

John4B:
We understand.... Tinubu gave inec 3bn to defend the stolen mandate. Let's see how it goes.

No problem. Let's investigate the manual calculations. The results sheets are still available. Unless they will claim that fire has destroyed them. Any how they try to defend the stolen mandate, they will be exposed.

mrvitalis:

Absolutely no .... you don't do that ...u cancel the election or suspend it simple

Lolzzzz

Even with that, collated or cooked results not same with polling units'.

popesco123:
The death that will kill you guys by deceiving millions of suffering Nigerians is near. Power from above Is greater than political power. Comment against, I wish you same.

Go sleep bloody sinner and this act of hypocrisy

Aptly said

bentenny:

At least there is already an admission from you that there was indeed e-transmission being mandatory as contained in the guidelines and regulations in INEC which is an extension of the electoral act!

Now that that is by the way,let's go to you other issue where you insinuated the time of upload of the results!
If you read the guidelines and regulations without sentiment, you will see that e-transmission was supposed to be done from the polling unit which implies that upload to the IREV was meant to be done that day as soon as elections were concluded in that PU!
Once the results are announced at the PU,a copy will be given to party agents while a copy of the result is scanned and sent from the PU to the IREV not from the collation centre as was observed!
This is public knowledge!

Your example using CBT exams is not substantial enough!
The school decides when you are to collect your results after the exams have been conducted and all the students are aware of it!
In the case of INEC,they have adopted a mode of transmission which is contained in their own guidelines!
The guidelines and regulations of INEC is an extension of the electoral laws!
If the electoral laws or acts mandates INEC to decide which mode of transmission to use,the law has simply granted INEC the leverage hence the guidelines and regulations of INEC is as powerful as the laws itself!
INEC cannot go against their own guidelines and regulations or even decide when to obey or disobey their own guidelines!

ambale:
So why then does Yakubu promise the entire nation electronic transmission?

These guys think everyone is a fool like them

Defend your process simple, whether electronic ooo, manual ooo, hybrid ooo

Simple

electronic transmission doesn't stop manual collation of results

Thedon22:
Obi is just wasting his time!

Wasting his time big time.

Christistruth03:



E Transmission in not mandatory in the Election Law

Go and read the guidelines and regulations of INEC to get yourself properly updated!
I even doubt any of you defending INEC was aware of those rules that INEC had made public last year!
See one of the guidelines and regulations....

yusfatedeeprof:

Nope. The electoral act says the results must be transmitted electronically, that is on the IREV. It didn't say it has to be in real-time from the polling units.

Though Inec said they're going to upload on the IREV in real-time but it has been established that they reserve the right to change it at any point in time. They uploaded but not in real-time

Mr. Man, INEC has no right surchanged or undermined its own rule at the middle of the election. If it does that, that's malpractice. Have you see FIFA changing rules when tournament has began, that's impossible. Guidelines are meant to be kept for the sanctity of the game. If there is any reason for guidelines to be changed, all parties must be informed and carried along.
Yes, no doubt the commission reserve the right to formulate guidelines and use whatever method convenient for them, which they must carry all stakeholders along on the guidelines to use for transparency.

IfnobeGod20:

Mr. Man, INEC has no right surchanged or undermined its own rule at the middle of the election. If it does that, that's malpractice. Have you see FIFA changing rules when tournament has began, that's impossible. Guidelines are meant to be kept for the sanctity of the game. If there is any reason for guidelines to be changed, all parties must be informed and carried along.
Yes, no doubt the commission reserve the right to formulate guidelines and use whatever method convenient for them, which they must carry all stakeholders along on the guidelines to use for transparency.

Have you heard of "Force Majeure"
There are some occurrences or circumstances that will make any institution to go against their guidelines even FIFA you quoted has done it many times. That's why there are always exemptions.

So Yes they do have the right, and they already gave an excuse that they experienced/suffered a "technical glitch" and immediately it was sorted they started uploading, there's nothing else to it at this point.

bentenny:

Go and read the guidelines and regulations of INEC to get yourself properly updated!
I even doubt any of you defending INEC was aware of those rules that INEC had made public last year!
See one of the guidelines and regulations....

They are only guidelines

INEC are permitted flexibility under the Electoral Law because of unseen factors like 12 Million hacking attack incidents on their Servers

Why the man Yakubu Mahmood constantly like to Nigerians and foreign people that nobody can stop transmitting the result from real time, stop this show of shame by the day.you guys are making him a serial lair everytime you cut that section does it mean that Mahmood is ignorant of the electoral act?

It's only after the Tribunal cases that we will understand the Electoral Act better.



Right now, the INEC just wanted the to use the court judgements to take advantage of the ambiguous languages..

OGHENAOGIE:
electronic transmission doesn't stop manual collation of results

We are saying same thing, whether electronic or manual

But electronic means makes their work even easier so why shouldn't they embrace it?

EraseTheDot:
iRev is not in the electoral law, those mischievous elements that had paid some hackers to compromise INEC server failed woefully, we saw them crying like a burnt goat when their plans failed.
God bless Prof.Yakubu Mahmood

-erase the dot

They are headless mofos. Even intelligence showed that the US was trying to compromise the, electronically. We, however, do not know on which side, among the contestants, the US is/was.

Probably INEC has seen the level of attacks on its servers and that warranted it going manual because N300b is much although it would also contain budgets for cost of litigations up to Supreme Court level.
INEC’s prayer would be that make everything die down quickly so that dem go begin the chop-make-I-chop spree from the remaining cash, except if the full money is not released at once.

Christistruth03:


They are only guidelines

INEC are permitted flexibility under the Electoral Law because of unseen factors like 12 Million hacking attack incidents on their Servers

Define guidelines and regulations!
Guidelines: a general rule or principle!
Regulations:
a rule or directive made and maintained by an authority..

There is nothing like flexibility in a guideline or regulation!
INEC was given a choice to make about mode of transmission and went for e-transmission through its guidelines and regulations!
That was binding on the presidential, national assembly and gubernatorial elections!
Flexibility can only be considered when a fresh election is about to be held and it decides to go for another mode of transmission through the creation of another guideline and regulation!

Oga forget the tales by moonlight by the minister pantami which is already in conflict with what INEC had previously said!
Let's even assume without conceding that there was a cyber attack on the INEC server,in order to protect the credibility of the elections, INEC had the power and authority to cancel the election for a later date....not disobey their own laws by using another mode of transmission without informing the participants or the electorates!
That's criminal!

ambale:


We are saying same thing, whether electronic or manual

But electronic means makes their work even easier so why shouldn't they embrace it?

did INEC chairman announced results from electronic medium? Nobi paper im use... Collation is manual from polling units to ward to local govt to state to Abuja... Electronic transmission is for u to view results... Simple which one u no understand.. INEC Neva told u guys collation would be electronic

EraseTheDot:
iRev is not in the electoral law, those mischievous elements that had paid some hackers to compromise INEC server failed woefully, we saw them crying like a burnt goat when their plans failed.
God bless Prof.Yakubu Mahmood

-erase the dot

erase The Dot" your bigoted forbears tried btw 1967-1970 and fail. You too, will fail.

Mumusaphire:
But yakub said results will be sent to main server from polling units.

The court will work with constitution and not what someone said

MadamExcellency:
Who is debating on the electronic collation of results? Was there any electronic collation of results in the first place?

All results were counted manually at the polling unit, written on a sheet of paper and entered electronically to be transmitted according to INEC 2023 election Guideline.

These people should stop shifting the goalpost to score cheap goals.

hehehe.Na serious business we dey now.Emotions are over.Na constitution e reach now and not hear say hear say or what someone promised.Court will give judgements base on the constitution

bentenny:

Define guidelines and regulations!
Guidelines: a general rule or principle!
Regulations:
a rule or directive made and maintained by an authority..

There is nothing like flexibility in a guideline or regulation!
INEC was given a choice to make about mode of transmission and went for e-transmission through its guidelines and regulations!
That was binding on the presidential, national assembly and gubernatorial elections!
Flexibility can only be considered when a fresh election is about to be held and it decides to go for another mode of transmission through the creation of another guideline and regulation!

Oga forget the tales by moonlight by the minister pantami which is already in conflict with what INEC had previously said!
Let's even assume without conceding that there was a cyber attack on the INEC server,in order to protect the credibility of the elections, INEC had the power and authority to cancel the election for a later date....not disobey their own laws by using another mode of transmission without informing the participants or the electorates!
That's criminal!

Look it wasn’t Compulsory for INEC to do Electronic Transmission in the Election Law

What was compulsory was for INEC to deliver credible election

Chicagoesontop:
But why did INEC promise to use it in the first place .

That confirms that the whole process was manipulated. Mahmoud promised before the elections that the results will be uploaded electronically in real time. After the election, they are now telling us it's not compulsory. What kind of double talk is that? People lack integrity in this country.

Christistruth03:



Look it wasn’t Compulsory for INEC to do Electronic Transmission in the Election Law

What was compulsory was for INEC to deliver credible election

What is wrong with you guys?
Yes INEC basic duty is to provide credible elections which is why the electoral laws were amended and the humongous funds were made available to provide a transparent and acceptable result for all and sundry!
This is why INEC adopted the e-transmission of results instead of the outdated manual transmission to ensure the process is credible!
Another reason for the e-transmission was to reduce to the barest minimum the issue of litigation!
Hence,INEC came up with guidelines and regulations to ensure a free and fair election!
What's so hard for you to comprehend?

Hence y inec call for party agent to collect results sheet from every polling unit in d country.so inec has d power to decide how to transmit results without any apologies to any party u use ur results from every polling unit to collate to checkmate any rigging.if u wait for results from server to use u will wait in vain some apo1 didn't even no how to upload d results based on corrupt system dat will train one person today n replace them with someone dat knows on or two person in top places dat is where d whole system start to malfunction


quote author=mrvitalis post=122458999]According to him ooh "before you start collection you have to look at the electronically collected results "

Now that INEC announced results before results were uploaded ... why electronic results did they view to confirm

No body is saying results should be collected online ...we are saying online results were .not uploaded ontime to give parties opportunity to verify and challenge results at he collection centers


So he is backing wat labour and obidients have been saying[/quote]