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The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 12:00am On Apr 14, 2023
People are now arguing that two-thirds of 36 states and FCT means two thirds of 37 and not two-thirds in 36 plus one.

They claim that since the FCT is not a state, the statement about the 36 states and FCT in the constitution, was the only way to capture the entire region of the country.

Their promulgated equation is now :-



Nigeria = 36 States + FCT



Which gives 37 DISTINCT ENTITIES

However, Entities, whether states or FCT are INTEGERS and not Fractions, rational or otherwise.

With this in mind, it then becomes perplexing interpreting the result after computing the calculation :- 2/3 X 37 = 24.66666666666667

What then is the 0.66666666666667 approx. 0.7 State or Territory?

Is that 0.7 of Lagos, Anambra, or Kano boundary that must be cordoned off, and circumscribed for an election

Doesn't really add up, does it The math!

However (2/3 X 36) + 1, results in an integer, in-line with the rule that States/Territory are whole and distinct, not fractionated.

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 12:11am On Apr 14, 2023
The math checks out when you interpret this correctly like it was intended.

The math starts to fail, when you interpret this wrongly.
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by Great141: 12:14am On Apr 14, 2023
You ve made a big mistake
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 12:17am On Apr 14, 2023
Great141:
You ve made a big mistake

can you clarify ?
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 7:56am On Apr 14, 2023
Great141:
You ve made a big mistake

Still no clarification
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by Brendaniel: 8:02am On Apr 14, 2023
VaselineCrew:


can you clarify ?

Abuja is a capital not a state, Nigeria itself is also a state and its capital is Abuja...
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 8:42am On Apr 14, 2023
Brendaniel:


Abuja is a capital not a state, Nigeria itself is also a state and its capital is Abuja...

I had already taken what you said into consideration, hence the calculation with 37
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 9:41am On Apr 14, 2023
Still no legitimate counter to this basic math
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 9:54am On Apr 14, 2023
It's rather shameful that the proponents of the "25% FCT, not necessary" school of thought, have no counter when it comes down to the math needed to prove their position.

I guess their position isn't tenable then, and it's quite clear to see.
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by Brendaniel: 10:06am On Apr 14, 2023
VaselineCrew:


I had already taken what you said into consideration, hence the calculation with 37
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 6:37pm On Apr 14, 2023
Still no valid counter to this, yet APC is on another thread bragging that you don't need 25% in FCT

https://www.nairaland.com/7653065/voters-fct-not-special-dont
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 6:39pm On Apr 14, 2023
Tell them to justify the math using their interpretation of the constitution and they can't stand behind it.

Do you think the writers didn't understand the math or didn't take it into consideration?
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 6:41pm On Apr 14, 2023
that would be like a man writing a will and saying give 2/3 of my kids my wealth

Of course it would mean that the total number of kids he has is a MULTIPLE of 3, or 3 is a FACTOR of n(no. of kids)

You can't have half a kid.
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 6:42pm On Apr 14, 2023
Nigeria is now soooo corrupt

People SHUN basic Math and English

Like Math 101, sigh

WTF
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 6:53pm On Apr 14, 2023
Still waiting for the APC guys to make sense of this
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 9:29pm On Apr 14, 2023
Still no valid counter

Yet more and more threads keep coming up supporting the false theory, without any basis

They just say "We don't need 25% in FCT", and APC minions shout in unison "yeah!"

Ask them to breakdown the math, they won't

What is wrong with these people?
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 11:48pm On Apr 14, 2023
I will refresh this till someone can make a logical counter, or till tired.

Its weird how Nigerians sometimes toss logic completely away
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by quickly: 11:55pm On Apr 14, 2023
VaselineCrew:
People are now arguing that two-thirds of 36 states and FCT means two thirds of 37 and not two-thirds in 36 plus one.

They claim that since the FCT is not a state, the statement about the 36 states and FCT in the constitution, was the only way to capture the entire region of the country.

Their promulgated equation is now :-



Nigeria = 36 States + FCT



Which gives 37 DISTINCT ENTITIES

However, Entities, whether states or FCT are INTEGERS and not Fractions, rational or otherwise.

With this in mind, it then becomes perplexing interpreting the result after computing the calculation :- 2/3 X 37 = 24.66666666666667

What then is the 0.66666666666667 approx. 0.7 State or Territory?

Is that 0.7 of Lagos, Anambra, or Kano boundary that must be cordoned off, and circumscribed for an election

Doesn't really add up, does it The math!

However (2/3 X 36) + 1, results in an integer, in-line with the rule that States/Territory are whole and distinct, not fractionated.


U didn’t do approximation in school

24.6666667% is rounded to 25%


Tinubu got 39% and the highest votes

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by quickly: 12:00am On Apr 15, 2023
VaselineCrew:
Still no legitimate counter to this basic math


This is primary school maths or even GCE level at best.


If was 24.3 for instance if you round it up to the nearest whole number that will be 24%


However rounding up 24.6% to the nearest whole number is 25%.

APC got 39%

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by quickly: 12:06am On Apr 15, 2023
VaselineCrew:
Still no valid counter

Yet more and more threads keep coming up supporting the false theory, without any basis

They just say "We don't need 25% in FCT", and APC minions shout in unison "yeah!"

Ask them to breakdown the math, they won't

What is wrong with these people?


What is wrong with u.


U want the constitution to write 24.6%?

Will that make u happy?

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 12:02pm On May 01, 2023
Notice how there was and still is no legitimate counter to the math on this thread.

No wonder all these math exams like SAT GMAT and the rest are tricky

The question would indicate the answer must be an integer, but the test taker would simply glance over the text, ignoring the integer rule, and hence, start factoring in decimals into computations that are already waaay off.
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by Pythagoras001: 1:30pm On May 01, 2023
it is rounded to the nearest integer. there are some state in which 3 is not a divisor of the total number of lga e. g if After division we get 18.*** 18 if 18.**< 18.5 otherwise 19 if 18.***>= 18.5. ceiling and floor function. the argument for and against the interpretation of Abuja are strong and tight the options are either we take the interpretation literally or we take it in view of avoiding conflict with other sections of the constitution.

My feeling is that the second options is highly probable because
e.g. if someone wins 36 states and loses Abuja what then happens (are Abuja resident more important than other Nigerians)

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by Omowale2023(m): 2:04pm On May 01, 2023
Pythagoras001:
it is rounded to the nearest integer. there are some state in which 3 is not a divisor of the total number of lga e. g if After division we get 18.*** 18 if 18.**< 18.5 otherwise 19 if 18.***>= 18.5. ceiling and floor function. the argument for and against the interpretation of Abuja are strong and tight the options are either we take the interpretation literally or we take it in view of avoiding conflict with other sections of the constitution.

My feeling is that the second options is highly probable because
e.g. if someone wins 36 states and loses Abuja what then happens (are Abuja resident more important than other Nigerians)
You can't win 36 states and not win Abuja.
Will you be admitted if you have D7 in English?

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by Omowale2023(m): 2:06pm On May 01, 2023
VaselineCrew:
People are now arguing that two-thirds of 36 states and FCT means two thirds of 37 and not two-thirds in 36 plus one.

They claim that since the FCT is not a state, the statement about the 36 states and FCT in the constitution, was the only way to capture the entire region of the country.

Their promulgated equation is now :-



Nigeria = 36 States + FCT



Which gives 37 DISTINCT ENTITIES

However, Entities, whether states or FCT are INTEGERS and not Fractions, rational or otherwise.

With this in mind, it then becomes perplexing interpreting the result after computing the calculation :- 2/3 X 37 = 24.66666666666667

What then is the 0.66666666666667 approx. 0.7 State or Territory?

Is that 0.7 of Lagos, Anambra, or Kano boundary that must be cordoned off, and circumscribed for an election

Doesn't really add up, does it The math!

However (2/3 X 36) + 1, results in an integer, in-line with the rule that States/Territory are whole and distinct, not fractionated.

Bro....don't mind the Agbado people. They don't understand simple English.

I asked a question concerning this 25% issue. Most people couldn't even answer it.

Check below

I have a question for you to answer.

Question 1;
You need credits in 4 subjects and English language.
What does it mean?

Question 2;
There are 36 mangoes and 1 Apple in a bowl, I told you to give me 24 Mangoes and 1 Apple from the same bowl.
What does that mean?

https://www.nairaland.com/7653459/answer-question-understand-english-language

Check people's responses..

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by orisa37: 5:01pm On May 01, 2023
No one is fractionalizing FCT.
FCT IS FCT AND CAN NEVER BE A STATE. IT IS THE OPERATIONAL AREA ALLOCABLE TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AS THE FG BELONGS TO THE 36 STATES SO THE FCT BELONGS TO THE 36 STATES. FCT IS AN ESTATE OF FG. FOR ALL PURPOSES, NEEDS AND USES, THE 36 STATES OF THE FEDERATION MUST SHARE FCT BEFORE WE DETERMINE THE FRACTIONS OF FCT.
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 8:01am On May 06, 2023
Pythagoras001:
it is rounded to the nearest integer. there are some state in which 3 is not a divisor of the total number of lga e. g if After division we get 18.*** 18 if 18.**< 18.5 otherwise 19 if 18.***>= 18.5. ceiling and floor function. the argument for and against the interpretation of Abuja are strong and tight the options are either we take the interpretation literally or we take it in view of avoiding conflict with other sections of the constitution.

My feeling is that the second options is highly probable because
e.g. if someone wins 36 states and loses Abuja what then happens (are Abuja resident more important than other Nigerians)

Some things you can't round.

That's why some simple math questions get missed in exams. Like a question would state "...for positive integers greater than..." and people would start considering fractions and decimals.

Some things can be rounded up or down, or taken in precise fractions, like for instance: -

If I asked you to share 13 apples equally between 3 children, then you could even get an automated laser cutter, like in manufacturing industries to slice the final apple to give them each 0.33333333333 of it.

However, somethings can neither be rounded, nor taken in precise fractions, like for instance: -

If I asked you to share 13 Dogs equally between 3 children. Please I hope you won't slice that final dog oo embarassed


A state is distinct and whole as you can't have 0.5, or 0.3, or 0.675923... of a state.

With that in mind, 2/3 of 36 + 1 will give you and integer, as opposed to 2/3 of 37

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 4:59pm On May 06, 2023
Can’t wait to see how Tinubu will escape this

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Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by malcom1X: 5:56pm On May 06, 2023
Dude I want to ask, if the president elect is sworn and so there's a breach in the constitution of the federal republic, does that not give the army the power to take over since they will no longer be bound to the constitution any longer?

So it will be like anything goes, and note there will also be a heavy presence of the army at that inauguration too.
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by VaselineCrew: 10:29pm On May 06, 2023
malcom1X:
Dude I want to ask, if the president elect is sworn and so there's a breach in the constitution of the federal republic, does that not give the army the power to take over since they will no longer be bound to the constitution any longer?

So it will be like anything goes, and note there will also be a heavy presence of the army at that inauguration too.

Don’t even know bro, but then, Naija has always been the theater of the absurd.

Btw, No light here, gen bout to go off, into the darkness I go, chai! angry
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by malcom1X: 7:40am On May 07, 2023
VaselineCrew:


Don’t even know bro, but then, Naija has always been the theater of the absurd.

Btw, No light here, gen bout to go off, into the darkness I go, chai! angry

Okay man
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by Pythagoras001: 7:42pm On May 07, 2023
VaselineCrew:


Some things you can't round.

That's why some simple math questions get missed in exams. Like a question would state "...for positive integers greater than..." and people would start considering fractions and decimals.

Some things can be rounded up or down, or taken in precise fractions, like for instance: -

If I asked you to share 13 apples equally between 3 children, then you could even get an automated laser cutter, like in manufacturing industries to slice the final apple to give them each 0.33333333333 of it.

However, somethings can neither be rounded, nor taken in precise fractions, like for instance: -

If I asked you to share 13 Dogs equally between 3 children. Please I hope you won't slice that final dog oo embarassed


A state is distinct and whole as you can't have 0.5, or 0.3, or 0.675923... of a state.

With that in mind, 2/3 of 36 + 1 will give you and integer, as opposed to 2/3 of 37


on a lighter note smiley smiley the question i initially answered had nothing to do with sharing state equally. to your question as regards sharing the dog equally amongst the children would imply you gave each child four dogs each and kept one for yourself. the problem definition implicitly implies that you are working with natural numbers in discrete domain as opposed to the dealing with continuum and that include the idea of rounding up because in this context rational, algebraic , transcendental , complex , dual , quaternion etc. would have no meaning and therefore make no sense. just like asking you to give me PI number of eggs you would spend trillions of years and still not be able to give me PI number of eggs . as regards the orange question it would only be possible with infinite precision laser cutter i am rest assured it wouldn't happen in my lifetime and the probability it would happen in the future is close to zero as we are dealing with equal parts at the level of quarks
Re: The 0.7 STATE and the Nigerian Constitution by Pythagoras001: 7:57pm On May 07, 2023
Omowale2023:

You can't win 36 states and not win Abuja.
Will you be admitted if you have D7 in English?
full disclosure although i shouldn't disclose it i supported peter obi campaign in the last election and i maybe biased. i was just trying to look at the question objectively. as regards admission with D7 definitely not, as it is the school or government policy which in itself may not be in contravention of any section in the constitution. have you wandered why someone in Zamfara would score less than 20 and be admitted to Unity schools. the constitution allows it in the name of federal character so this things (laws) are sometimes deeper and sometimes have to be looked holistically. best option would be to prove that the election was marred with high level irregularities although it is expensive but i believe it is the surest way.

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