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Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 10:37am On Oct 19, 2019 |
The lost sheep,the lost coin and the lost son.why three parables and not one? |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by budaatum: 11:06am On Oct 19, 2019 |
Because its such a complex lesson that it had to be taught in 3 different ways so you get it. See the verse that precedes those parables. 1 Like
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Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by oaroloye(m): 2:53pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
MISHIGAS! ichuka: Are you really so stupid, that you missed the fact that there are as many as six different messages in the three Parables? You were taught only one meaning from the chapter, because you were too silly, and ignorant, and brutish to have learnt how to read and understand Scripture for yourself, but thought that you could hire someone to understand It for you, so that you should not need to love God with all your Heart, all your Soul, and all your Might. . DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9. 4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy might. 6. And these Words, which I Command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of Them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind Them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write Them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. BEING EDUCATED AND RAISED AS AN ACCURSED GENTILE IDIOT, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO READ IN GENERAL, NOR TO READ SCRIPTURE IN PARTICULAR. You think that looking at pages, and deciphering symbols of languages, interpreting words, is "READING." That is what the Oyinbo Enemy taught you, so that you would be crippled in Spirit, in Soul, and in Body, and live and die without ever realizing your full potential as a Human being. . LUKE 15:1-10. THEN drew near unto him all the Publicans and Sinners for to hear him. 2. And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, "THIS MAN RECEIVETH SINNERS, AND EATETH WITH THEM." 3. And he spake this Parable unto them, Saying, 4. "What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? 5. "And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6. "And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, 'REJOICE WITH ME; FOR I HAVE FOUND MY SHEEP WHICH WAS LOST.' 7. "I Say unto you, 'THAT LIKEWISE JOY SHALL BE IN HEAVEN OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH, MORE THAN OVER NINETY AND NINE JUST PERSONS, WHICH NEED NO REPENTANCE.' 8. "Either what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently till she find it? 9. And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, 'REJOICE WITH ME; FOR I HAVE FOUND THE PIECE WHICH I HAD LOST.' 10. "Likewise, I Say unto you, 'THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.' " oaroloye: WHERE DID YOU READ IT IN THE BIBLE: "IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, JUST ASK SOMEONE TO DO YOUR THINKING FOR YOU!"? Or are you going to say that you never read any of those last four Scriptures in your life? That is how Oyinbo was able to deceive us for so long: BY TEACHING US TO ONLY KNOW WHAT THEY READ TO US. MEDITATION enables us to receive GOD'S TUTORIALS. If we cannot hear The Voice of God, what is the point of calling ourselves His Worshippers? IGNORANCE OF THE LAW OF GOD IS A CAPITAL SIN! If you don't know God's Law, you have NO RIGHT to LIVE! . DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20. 19. I call Heaven and Earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you Life and Death, Blessing and Cursing: therefore CHOOSE LIFE, That both thou and thy seed may live: 20. That thou mayest love The LORD thy God, And that thou mayest obey His Voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto Him: for He is thy Life, and the Length of thy days: That thou mayest dwell in the land which The LORD Sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. HOW BADLY TO YOU WANT TO LIVE? Except you deliberately CHOOSE LIFE, you will NOT find Life. As a Gentile, you have NEVER experienced DIVINE LIFE; you have been living ANIMAL "LIFE," this whole time. DIVINE LIFE is not devoid of WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING!
. LUKE 15:11-32. 11. And he Said, "A certain man had two sons: 12. And the younger of them said to his father, 'FATHER, GIVE ME THE PORTION OF GOODS THAT FALLETH TO ME.' "And he divided unto them his living. 13. "And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living. 14. "And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want. 15. "And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. 16. "And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him. 17. "And when he came to himself, he said, 'HOW MANY HIRED SERVANTS OF MY FATHER'S HAVE BREAD ENOUGH AND TO SPARE, AND I PERISH WITH HUNGER! 18. 'I WILL ARISE AND GO TO MY FATHER, AND WILL SAY UNTO HIM, "FATHER, I HAVE SINNED AGAINST HEAVEN, AND BEFORE THEE, 19. ' "AND AM NO MORE WORTHY TO BE CALLED THY SON: MAKE ME AS ONE OF THY HIRED SERVANTS." ' 20. "And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. 21. "And the son said unto him, 'FATHER, I HAVE SINNED AGAINST HEAVEN, AND IN THY SIGHT, AND AM NO MORE WORTHY TO BE CALLED THY SON.' 22. "But the father said to his servants, 'BRING FORTH THE BEST ROBE, AND PUT IT ON HIM; AND PUT A RING ON HIS HAND, AND SHOES ON HIS FEET: 23. 'AND BRING HITHER THE FATTED CALF, AND KILL IT, AND LET US EAT, AND BE MERRY: 24. 'FOR THIS MY SON WAS DEAD, AND IS ALIVE AGAIN; HE WAS LOST, AND IS FOUND.' "And they began to be merry. 25. "Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing. 26. "And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant. 27. "And he said unto him, 'THY BROTHER IS COME; AND THY FATHER HATH KILLED THE FATTED CALF, BECAUSE HE HATH RECEIVED HIM SAFE AND SOUND.' 28. "And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him. 29. "And he answering said to his father, 'LO, THESE MANY YEARS DO I SERVE THEE, NEITHER TRANSGRESSED I AT ANY TIME THY COMMANDMENT: AND YET THOU NEVER GAVEST ME A KID, THAT I MIGHT MAKE MERRY WITH MY FRIENDS: 30. 'BUT AS SOON AS THIS THY SON WAS COME, WHICH HATH DEVOURED THY LIVING WITH HARLOTS, THOU HAST KILLED FOR HIM THE FATTED CALF.' 31. "And he said unto him, 'SON, THOU ART EVER WITH ME, AND ALL THAT I HAVE IS THINE. 32. 'IT WAS MEET THAT WE SHOULD MAKE MERRY, AND BE GLAD: FOR THIS THY BROTHER WAS DEAD, AND IS ALIVE AGAIN; AND WAS LOST, AND IS FOUND.' " THE SIX MESSAGES. (1) WHAT IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED TO BE HUMAN LIFE IS ONLY 1% ENERGIZED. 99% of "normal' Sinners' Life Energy has been stolen by the Devils, as a result of their Sins. . DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6. ALL The Commandments Which I Command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which The LORD Sware unto your fathers. 2. And thou shalt remember all the Way which The LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep His Commandments, or no. 3. And He humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with Manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that He might make thee know that "MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY BREAD ONLY BUT BY EVERY (WORD) THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD DOTH MAN LIVE." 4. Thy raiment waxed not old upon thee, neither did thy foot swell, these forty years. 5. Thou shalt also consider in thine heart, "THAT, AS A MAN CHASTENETH HIS SON, SO THE LORD THY GOD CHASTENETH THEE." 6. Therefore thou shalt keep The Commandments of The LORD thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to fear Him. . MATTHEW 13:1-23. THE same day went Jesus out of the house, and sat by the sea side. 2. And great multitudes were gathered together unto him, so that he went into a ship, and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore. 3. And he Spake many things unto them in Parables, Saying, "Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4. "And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: 5. "Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6. "And when the Sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7. "And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8. "But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9. "Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." 10. And the Disciples came, and said unto him, "Why speakest thou unto them in Parables?" 11. He answered and Said unto them, "Because it is given unto you to know The Mysteries of The Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given. 12. "For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13. "Therefore Speak I to them in Parables: 'BECAUSE THEY SEEING SEE NOT; AND HEARING THEY HEAR NOT, NEITHER DO THEY UNDERSTAND.' 14. "And in them is fulfilled the Prophecy of Esaias, which saith, 'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR, AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND; AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE, AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE: 15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART IS WAXED GROSS, AND THEIR EARS ARE DULL OF HEARING, AND THEIR EYES THEY HAVE CLOSED; LEST AT ANY TIME THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART, AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED, AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.' 16. "But Blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 17. "For verily I Say unto you, 'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND RIGHTEOUS MEN HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE, AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM; AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR, AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' 18. "Hear ye therefore The Parable of the Sower. 19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM, AND UNDERSTANDETH IT NOT, THEN COMETH THE WICKED ONE, AND CATCHETH AWAY THAT WHICH WAS SOWN IN HIS HEART. THIS IS HE WHICH RECEIVED SEED BY THE WAY SIDE. 20. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED THE SEED INTO STONY PLACES, THE SAME IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD, AND ANON WITH JOY RECEIVETH IT; 21. 'YET HATH HE NOT ROOT IN HIMSELF, BUT DURETH FOR A WHILE: FOR WHEN TRIBULATION OR PERSECUTION ARISETH BECAUSE OF THE WORD, BY AND BY HE IS OFFENDED. 22. 'HE ALSO THAT RECEIVED SEED AMONG THE THORNS IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD; AND THE CARE OF THIS WORLD, AND THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES, CHOKE THE WORD, AND HE BECOMETH UNFRUITFUL. 23. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED SEED INTO THE GOOD GROUND IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD, AND UNDERSTANDETH IT; WHICH ALSO BEARETH FRUIT, AND BRINGETH FORTH, SOME AN HUNDREDFOLD, SOME SIXTY, SOME THIRTY.' " . JOHN 1:1-5,9. IN The Beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God. 2. The same was in The Beginning with God. 3. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. 4. In Him was Life, and The Life was The Light of Men. 5. And The Light shineth in Darkness, and The Darkness comprehended It not. 9. That was The True Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the World. THE HUMAN SOUL HAS TEN DIVISIONS OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONALITY. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25:1-30.) 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. These are the Fundamental Spiritual Powers of Holy Beings, taught from Old to New Testament. They are represented by SILVER, rather than GOLD, because THEY ARE NOT ENDS IN THEMSELVES. They are still ONE-STEP REMOVED from The End-Goal. They are represented by COINS, because they have to be UTILIZED "COMMERCIALLY:" "TRADED." Not kept to oneself. [See: THE EAGLE'S GIFT, by Carlos Castaneda. THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 3:40pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
oaroloye:Dude the OP weren't meant for Pigs but Sheep. So stick to your species. |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 3:41pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
budaatum:So what did you get from the 3parables? |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by budaatum: 3:54pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
ichuka:What did you get from the 3 parables? |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 6:19pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
Why does Luke 15 use three parables? Is not one adequate? There are three parables in Luke 15 that speak of something being “lost.” The first parable concerns a lost sheep, the second, a lost coin, and the third, a lost son. After reading this chapter, many wonder why three parables are used to typify a sinner when only one should be sufficient. We must realize, however, that the Lord’s intention in speaking these parables was not to talk about the lost ones, rather, His emphasis was on God’s treatment of a lost one. If the Lord was only concerned about man’s lost condition, one parable would have been sufficient. However, His focus was on how God treats a lost one, therefore, all three parables were necessary. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit—the Triune God—each have a specific work on the lost one. These three parables clearly portray to us the three aspects of God’s work. Can the sequence of these three parables be rearranged? No. If they were randomly rearranged, the gospel would not be in the proper order, because these three parables speak about the sequence of God’s plan of redemption. The first parable concerns the Lord Jesus coming to do the good Shepherd’s work. John 10 tells us that a good shepherd lays down his life for his sheep (v. 11). Following this, the Lord told the parable of a woman seeking for the lost coin. There is a difference between the good shepherd looking for the sheep and the woman seeking for the coin. The good shepherd looked for the sheep outside the house, and the Lord Jesus left the Father’s house to come to the world to look for us. The woman sought for the lost coin within her house. She lit her lamp, swept the house, and sought diligently. The woman typifies the Holy Spirit. First, the Lord Jesus came to accomplish redemption; then the Holy Spirit came into us to enlighten us so that we might receive the Lord Jesus’ accomplished redemption. The Bible reveals that God has two gifts for us, not just one. God gave us His Son, and He also gave us the Holy Spirit. Some preachers make the mistake of preaching only half of the truth. They only tell people, “God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that every one who believes into Him would not perish, but would have eternal life” (John 3:16) and neglect the words spoken by the Lord Jesus: “And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, that He may be with you forever” (14:16). God not only sent the Lord Jesus as a good Shepherd to seek for us, but He also sent the Holy Spirit to enlighten us. The first parable does not mention the lamp. The second parable mentions the lamp. The first parable speaks of searching outside the house. The second parable speaks of searching within the house. The Lord Jesus went outside the house, that is, He went to the world to find the lost sheep. The Holy Spirit is in the house—within us—enlightening us with the lamp to seek diligently for the lost coin. The last parable is of a father waiting at home for the return of his son. The Savior has come, and the Holy Spirit has come to seek so that the Lord’s accomplished redemption will not be in vain. God is waiting at home for the son to return so that the Holy Spirit’s accomplishment will not be in vain. Taking away the first or second parable would make the other parables inadequate. If the good Shepherd did not come to lay down His life for the sheep, redemption would not have been accomplished. If the Holy Spirit did not enlighten men, none would be convicted concerning sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:. Without the good Shepherd laying down His life for the sheep, it would not have been possible for the Father to take in the prodigal son when he returned home. The enlightening work of the Holy Spirit is based on the Lord’s death. If the Lord had not died, the heavenly Father could not have forgiven man’s sins. Otherwise, God would be unrighteous. We must lay hold of this fact: God’s forgiveness of sins is His righteousness. God loves us. Nevertheless, God’s love comes through His righteousness. If this were not so, God would be unrighteous, act contrary to His righteous nature, and be only tolerant of us. Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins. If forgiveness could be obtained without the Lord’s blood, there would be no need of a Savior. Then how are we saved? Even though we have sins, the Savior has truly borne our sins. Therefore, we can boldly come before the presence of God and please Him. If we did not have a Savior, we would never have peace in our conscience. Since the Lord Jesus has died and accomplished redemption, the heavenly Father is waiting to receive us. When the prodigal son returned home, his father did not have a rebuking word or a word exhorting him to repent, because the Savior had accomplished redemption for him, and the Holy Spirit had enlightened him. As a result, his sins were forgiven and washed by the blood. Even though the Lord Jesus has died and the heavenly Father is waiting at home, no prodigal son would be able to return home without the enlightening of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit convicts man of sin, causing him to regret his unbelief. The Holy Spirit convicts man of righteousness, causing him to question why he has not received the Lord who is resurrected, ascended, and well-accepted by God. The Holy Spirit convicts man of judgment, causing him to question why he follows Satan who has been judged and is no longer his master. This is all done by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, we should believe in what the Lord has accomplished and also pay attention to what the Holy Spirit will accomplish. One group of people only stresses what the Holy Spirit will accomplish, neglecting what Christ has already accomplished. Another group emphasizes what Christ has already accomplished, neglecting what the Holy Spirit will accomplish. Those who emphasize what Christ has accomplished say that Christ has died, resurrected, and accomplished everything and that the work of the Holy Spirit is merely to guide us to the truth, meaning that He only informs men that Christ has died, resurrected, and entered into glory. Those who emphasize what the Holy Spirit will accomplish say that the Holy Spirit must specifically work within us so that we will have a special experience. Each of these two views is biased. A bird has two wings. If we clip off one wing, it cannot fly. Each of these two views clip off one of the bird’s wings. If a person only focuses on what Christ has accomplished, he will not have any experience. On the other hand, if a person only focuses on the work of the Holy Spirit, he will lack a proper foundation because the work of the Holy Spirit is based on what Christ has accomplished. In 2 Corinthians 13:14 Paul says, “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.” God’s heart is love. God purposed to save man. Love is something within. When it is expressed, it is grace. The outward expression of love is grace, and the inward reality of grace is love. Therefore, the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ is spoken of first because redemption was accomplished by Christ. God loves, and the love of God in the person of Christ results in grace. The Holy Spirit conveys Christ’s accomplishments into us. This is the fellowship of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not impart anything of Himself; rather, He flows what Christ has accomplished into us. It is impossible to receive the Lord’s grace without the Holy Spirit. And if we only want the Holy Spirit without receiving what Christ has accomplished, it is also impossible to receive the Holy Spirit. A water pipe allows water to flow. Neither a pipe without water nor water without a pipe is effective. Therefore, the three parables in Luke 15 are not repetitious, they are a portrait of the sequence in God’s way of redemption. Christ accomplished redemption, the Holy Spirit enlightens man, and God the Father receives us by His love. |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by oaroloye(m): 7:07pm On Oct 19, 2019 |
(3) GOD AND THE HEAVENLY BEINGS HAVE THE SAME EMOTIONS AND RIGHTEOUS MOTIVATIONS THAT WE DO. They are not inhuman monsters we cannot possibly understand. . ROMANS 1:16-25. 16. For I am not ashamed of The Gospel of Christ: for it is The Power of God unto Salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17. For therein is The Righteousness of God revealed from Faith to Faith: as it is written, "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." 18. For The Wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold The Truth in Unrighteousness; 19. Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed It unto them. 20. For the Invisible Things of Him from The Creation of the World are clearly seen, being understood by the Things that are made, even His Eternal Power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23. And changed The Glory of the Uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24. Wherefore God also gave them up to Uncleanness through the Lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25. Who changed The Truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, Who is Blessed for ever. Amen. . MATTHEW 13:34-35. 34 All these things Spake Jesus unto the multitude in Parables; and without a Parable Spake he not unto them: 35. That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Prophet, saying, "I WILL OPEN MY MOUTH IN PARABLES; I WILL UTTER THINGS WHICH HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD." . MARK 4:33-34. 33. And with many such Parables Spake he The Word unto them, as they were able to hear It. 34. But without a Parable Spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his Disciples. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT PAUL LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING. Therefore, where he said he was "NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST," he was ashamed of The Gospel of Lord Yeshua. HE NEVER accepted him as CHRIST, and rejected all of his Teachings. He and his fellow Pharisee colleagues hated Lord Yeshua and his Parable Teachings, for making the Divine appear mundane and easily comprehensible, and therefore much less possible to twist to their corrupt ends. (4) GOD AND HEAVEN ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THE REPENTANT, THAN THE STEDFASTLY RIGHTEOUS. . MATTHEW 9:10-13. 10. And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many Publicans and Sinners came and sat down with him and his Disciples. 11. And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his Disciples, "Why eateth your Master with Publicans and Sinners?" 12. "But when Jesus heard that, he Said unto them, "They that be whole need not a Physician, but they that are sick." 13. "But go ye and learn what that meaneth, 'I WILL HAVE MERCY, AND NOT SACRIFICE:' for I am not come to call the Righteous, but Sinners to Repentance." (5) LORD YESHUA IS A PRODIGAL SON OF GOD. The Principle also applies to Lord Yeshua, and shows how he saw himself: expending his Divine Privileges unprofitably- merely to make us happy- wastefully. No one helping him. (6) THERE IS A SON OF GOD SENIOR TO LORD YESHUA: THE LOGOS (JOHN 1:1-4). This is "THE-WORD-THAT-WAS-GOD." Yeshua was once Him- but so was everything else. Yeshua was the only Son that was BEGOTTEN. GOD: THE FATHER comes from a place before our Space/Time milieu. Therefore, He created His exact Duplicate to operate for Him. THESE POINTS ARE MERELY WHAT I SEE AT THIS POINT IN TIME: THERE WILL BE MORE, UPON FURTHER AND ACTUAL MEDITATION. |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by Acidosis(m): 2:23am On Oct 20, 2019 |
That passage is filled with many lessons. Had this lesson last month in my Sunday school class. There are many hidden secrets in the parable of the prodigal son I never knew growing up. I did my personal reading and research knowing I was going to teach a class. You should too. Our understanding of Bible stories most of the time are too limited and constrained to what we were told some decades ago in children's sunday school classes. One of the lessons of the parable of the prodigal son is the power of inheritance/sonship. The father had two sons, right? The younger one asked, and he got. Isn't? The other didn't ask, and he got nothing, even grumbled and became jealous. Isn't it? The prodigal son's troubles didn't start by wasting his father's resources in a foreign land. His troubles began the moment he asked his father for his share of his inheritance. How do you claim inheritance (WILL) from a father that is very much alive?? Too lazy to type more. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 6:56am On Oct 20, 2019 |
Acidosis:Thanks bro |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 1:13am On Aug 28, 2022 |
Amen |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 5:18am On Jan 25, 2023 |
Amen |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by Kobojunkie: 2:28am On Apr 13, 2023 |
ichuka:If you pay close attention, you would find that each parable taught a different and separate lesson from the next. There is equally more than one parable contained in Matthew 13 by the way. |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 11:31pm On Apr 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Dude, me no understand u Did you read the OPs answer to his question?? |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by paxonel(m): 3:24am On Apr 15, 2023 |
Five people just read one parable, each person came up with a total different interpretation, What is responsible for that? |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 7:14am On Apr 16, 2023 |
[quote author=Kobojunkie post=122480161]If you pay close attention, you would find that each parable taught a different and separate lesson from the next. There is equally more than one parable contained in Matthew 13 by the way. [/quote Still didn't answer the question |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by budaatum: 6:45pm On Apr 17, 2023 |
paxonel: Basically, individual human subjectivity. Which results in different abilities to read and comprehend. |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by paxonel(m): 7:27pm On Apr 17, 2023 |
budaatum:could this be the reason some people will take first position in a class while others will carry past? |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by Kobojunkie: 8:13pm On Apr 17, 2023 |
ichuka:A parable is a statement or comment that conveys a meaning indirectly by the use of comparison, analogy, or the like. Parables typically lose their meanings when one attempts to interpret the content used in conveying the message. I read through much of your doctrinal thesis, and all I kept wondering as I did was wonder why you engage in the unnecessary when the message is made clear right in the parables. Why convolute the utterly simple things... for what purpose? Jesus Christ told those parables in order to provide a rebuttal to the Pharisees and teachers of the Law pointed out at the beginning of the chapter. 1 Many tax collectors and sinners came to listen to Jesus.These Pharisees and teachers of the Law were men who claimed to be knowledgable of the Law yet they looked down on the sinners in the land, thinking them worthless beings, and hence of no value to God and His Plan. This isn't the first time that Jesus Christ is recorded to have used parables to provide rebuttals to the claims made against Him by the same crew. And in almost all cases, the message of the parable is found within the story itself. PARABLE #1 - The Kingdom of God aka God's special Nation of Priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 - welcomes the sinners of Israel who decides to change from following his sinful ways 3 Then Jesus told them this story:PARABLE #2 - The angels of God welcome a sinner of Israel who decides to change from following his old sinful ways 8 “Suppose a woman has ten silver coins, but she loses one of them. She will take a light and clean the house. She will look carefully for the coin until she finds it.PARABLE #3 - A sinner of Israel who decides to change from following his sinful ways is like a son who was once lost but is now found, once dead but is now alive. 11 Then Jesus said, “There was a man who had two sons.PARABLE #4 - A sinner of Israel who decides to change from following his sinful ways is like a brother who was once lost but is now found, once dead but is now alive. 25 “The older son had been out in the field. When he came near the house, he heard the sound of music and dancing. By way of these 4 parables, Jesus Christ provided, for the Pharisees and teachers of the law, 4 simple reasons why He came to call to Himself the sinners of Israel and not the righteous brothers/sons of Israel. |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by budaatum: 6:22am On Apr 18, 2023 |
paxonel: Pretty much. 1 Like |
Re: Why Does Luke 15 Use Three Parables? Is Not One Adequate? by ichuka(m): 8:09pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Dude, I have heard u |
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