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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Imstrong2(m): 11:24am On Apr 16, 2023
ictplotter:

Gullible...
Whatever you believe on earth with faith, it will work for you.
In every faith and religion on earth they are successful people and also misfortune people. It's working for u doesn't mean you are on the right path.
The same it Xworks for you It's same It's working for Muslims, Hinduism etc
But the difference is putting your faith in the right place I have already mentioned you can put your faith where ever you please but true satisfaction, sustainability is the key and it come from God happy Sunday grin
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by dazzlingd(m): 11:25am On Apr 16, 2023
biafranrealson:
If wages of sin is death , why do animals , birds fishes die ?
What sin did they commit?

Nobody died for me .
That my take and final answer

Maybe Jesus will reincarnate as a fish and die for all the fishes too. But it seems the fishes have more brains than humans to be too gullible and won’t fall for cheap scam
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Imstrong2(m): 11:27am On Apr 16, 2023
Franking:


There are still sickness and destruction. He didn't sacrifice his life, he only sacrificed a weekend. Died on Friday and resurrected on Sunday, that one na die?
They will always be sickness etc but it's nolonger compulsive God has given you power when you believe and work on your faith
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by biafranrealson: 11:27am On Apr 16, 2023
What did he died for if actually the fairy tales is true.?
Are we not suffering, dying in masses, ?
Is hunger and starvation not our middle name ( both belivers and non )
When covid came , did it spare the believers and kill the non believer ?

Be realistic,
The people's that enslaved your ancestors, killed, raped and took away their mineral resources cannot give you religion.
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by dazzlingd(m): 11:28am On Apr 16, 2023
doctore212:
I don't feel like going for service today.

Just woke up with this weather , wore my cloth for 8sm mass but finally saw myself in olosho house.

My tight money have finished yet the babe did not allow me to touch bobby

Any man that uses his 10% to carry olosho has spent his money more wisely than the fool that carry it to church and give pastor. Pastor will later use the money to do short time with his wife.
Fela came and try to talk sense to this people’s head, them no hear word

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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Imstrong2(m): 11:31am On Apr 16, 2023
VenExchangee:

Them admit you or not?
Faith is different from religion believe, don't mix the two together
Yes ordinary faith, will power ,hope are good but their sustainability can be limited
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Dilaxgraphix: 11:37am On Apr 16, 2023
Courz:
Why did you change the topic from Prophecies of Jesus being Messiah to Why did Jesus die Jokanem? Are you ashamed of my questions or the fact you couldn't answer them? You JWs don't know what you are doing. Very confused set of people. grin I know you use your threads you create to count time for Field Service. Are you too lazy to carry bag and umbrella to preach outside? grin You just create threads and disappear then record it as return visits and Bible studies. We know una way. grin

And look at the question, Why did Jesus die? Why are you asking a Kindergarten question? This is something everybody already knows. Because of prolonged Brainwashing Watchtower gave you, you start to think like a 5 year old and start asking childish questions.

Instead of you to create threads with topics like:

Jesus came in 1914. Facts from the Bible to prove it. Or The Governing body is equal to Jesus, proof from the Bible. Or Babies are enemies of God, proof from the Bible. Or The Governing body are fallible and not inspired by the Holy Spirit but we must obey them without questions, proof from the Bible. Or University Education and keeping Beards for men are forbidden, proof from the Bible. Or Jesus is Not our Mediator, proof from the Bible. You know where I am going with these topics abi. Questions that people ask you JWs when you go to preach, why don't you address them here?

Actually, we are used to this kinds of accusations. Even Jesus Christ was accused by the pharisees of saying that he is EQUAL TO GOD which was one the reasons why they killed him. Sometimes you read to learn and not to make baseless accusations.
How do you expect him to reply you when your accusations are simply baseless, lacking facts!

And for your information, the brother never said that the voice of the governing body was the voice of God, he only said that it could be LIKENED to voice of God.

As a student of English language I actually expected you to understand what and how to make use of comparisms.

We all make use of comparisms in our everyday life but once it comes to understand bible message some of you will just decide to misunderstand it in a bid to discourage people from accepting the bible's message.
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Dilaxgraphix: 11:39am On Apr 16, 2023
Courz:
Come and answer Jokanem. You JWs love to run away when asked questions. Do you agree with this speaker below in your Morning worship video that the Governing body is likened to the Voice of Jesus and that Submitting to them means submitting to Jesus?

Your Freemason Governing body Stephen Let says Babies are enemies of God. Jokanem, is that the voice of Jesus?

Actually, we are used to this kinds of accusations. Even Jesus Christ was accused by the pharisees of saying that he is EQUAL TO GOD which was one the reasons why they killed him. Sometimes you read to learn and not to make baseless accusations.

How do you expect him to reply you when your accusations are simply baseless, lacking facts!



And for your information, the brother never said that the voice of the governing body was the voice of God, he only said that it could be LIKENED to voice of God.



As a student of English language I actually expected you to understand what and how to make use of comparisms.



We all make use of comparisms in our everyday life but once it comes to understand bible message some of you will just decide to misunderstand it in a bid to discourage people from accepting the bible's message.
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 11:42am On Apr 16, 2023
Dilaxgraphix:


Actually, we are used to this kinds of accusations. Even Jesus Christ was accused by the pharisees of saying that he is EQUAL TO GOD which was one the reasons why they killed him. Sometimes you read to learn and not to make baseless accusations.
How do you expect him to reply you when your accusations are simply baseless, lacking facts!

And for your information, the brother never said that the voice of the governing body was the voice of God, he only said that it could be LIKENED to voice of God.

As a student of English language I actually expected you to understand what and how to make use of comparisms.

We all make use of comparisms in our everyday life but once it comes to understand bible message some of you will just decide to misunderstand it in a bid to discourage people from accepting the bible's message.

The Brother said the Governing body is likened to the voice of Jesus. Therefore, submitting to the Governing body means submitting to Jesus. So even if he used the word Likened he still said Submitting to them means submitting to Jesus. That is an absolute statement already. Now tell me, doesn't that make the Governing body equal to Jesus? If the Governing body are the Voice of Jesus yet they claimed to not be Infallible and can make errors in directions and decisions, does that mean that Jesus is also fallible, Not inspired by the Holy Spirit and can make mistakes in decisions and directions? Answer me.

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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 11:45am On Apr 16, 2023
Dilaxgraphix:


Actually, we are used to this kinds of accusations. Even Jesus Christ was accused by the pharisees of saying that he is EQUAL TO GOD which was one the reasons why they killed him. Sometimes you read to learn and not to make baseless accusations.

How do you expect him to reply you when your accusations are simply baseless, lacking facts!



And for your information, the brother never said that the voice of the governing body was the voice of God, he only said that it could be LIKENED to voice of God.



As a student of English language I actually expected you to understand what and how to make use of comparisms.



We all make use of comparisms in our everyday life but once it comes to understand bible message some of you will just decide to misunderstand it in a bid to discourage people from accepting the bible's message.

You just typed nothing but rubbish and have not answered anything. Read and understand before you quote. If you can't do that, don't quote me.

The Brother said the Governing body is likened to the voice of Jesus. Therefore, submitting to the Governing body means submitting to Jesus. So even if he used the word Likened he still said Submitting to them means submitting to Jesus. That is an absolute statement already. Now tell me, doesn't that make the Governing body equal to Jesus? If the Governing body are the Voice of Jesus yet they claimed to not be Infallible, not inspired by the Holy Spirit, and can make errors in directions and decisions, does that mean that Jesus is also fallible, Not inspired by the Holy Spirit and can make mistakes in decisions and directions? Answer me. You JWs never answer questions in a straight forward manner. Your brain goes zig zag and you go off tangent because someone is very clever to see through you. Pitiful! You think you can use words to deceive anyone here as your Watchtower does to you during Brainwashing sessions in your Kingdom Hall? It won't work here. I clearly understand English better than you.

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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by SircumzAlot: 11:48am On Apr 16, 2023
Who sent him? 😒

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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by correctguy101(m): 11:55am On Apr 16, 2023


Because he was stressed, beaten and finally pierced with nails. He probably bled to death.

So my report says cause of death is EXSANGUINATION... undecided grin cheesy tongue

Wakanda kwenshun is this...
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Demzlent(m): 12:03pm On Apr 16, 2023
Courz:


As a JW, you don't even know your doctrine. But an outsider knows it better than you. That's shameful. You must have been sleeping and you don't read your publications. Go to your website and type on the search bar Jesus Mediator. Then read your articles. That is the assignment I have given you. All these long words you typed are not needed.



These are their beliefs;

God
Jehovah's Witnesses believe that:

God the Father (whose name is Jehovah) is "the only true God".
Jesus Christ is his firstborn son, is inferior to God, and was created by God.
The Holy Spirit is not a person; it is God's active force.
The Jehovah's Witness beliefs about God are outlined in detail below.

God (the Father):

God is a single being whose personal name is Jehovah
they also accept the name Yahweh and other transliterations
Jehovah is alone, and above all other beings
Jehovah created everything that exists
Jehovah has a son called Jesus Christ
Jesus is not God
Jesus is not equal to God
Jesus was God's first creation
Jehovah then created everything else through Jesus Christ
Jehovah's outstanding qualities are love, justice, wisdom, and power.
Jesus Christ:

Jesus Christ is a mighty being, but he is not God
Jesus Christ is a lesser and separate spirit being
Jesus Christ is not equal to God in power or eternity (i.e. age)
Jesus Christ never thought of himself as God or equal to God
Jesus Christ is the son of God
Jesus Christ was created by Jehovah as his first creation
So Jesus had a beginning and thus cannot not be eternal
Jesus Christ is inferior to Jehovah, but superior to the angels
Jesus Christ rules as part of God's heavenly kingdom
Jesus Christ is the Messiah predicted in the Old Testament
Jesus Christ came to earth from heaven
When Jesus was on earth he was a perfect human being, but he was not divine in any way
Jesus Christ gave his human life as a sacrifice to make human salvation possible
Witnesses believe that Jesus did not die on a cross but on a single pole or stake
Witnesses believe that Jesus had a spirit resurrection, not a bodily one
Jesus Christ has been appointed by God to judge each human being and decide on their fate
Jesus Christ will be used by God to resurrect the dead
The Holy Spirit:

The holy spirit is Jehovah's active force that he uses to accomplish his will
The holy spirit is not a person
The holy spirit is not part of a Trinity
The Trinity:

The traditional Christian idea that God is a 'Trinity' of Father, Son and Holy Spirit is false and based on pagan ideas
The doctrine of the Trinity is inconsistent with the Bible
The doctrine of the Trinity contradicts what the prophets, Jesus, the apostles, and the early Christians believed and taught


https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/witnesses/beliefs/beliefs.shtml

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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Franking: 12:05pm On Apr 16, 2023
Imstrong2:
They will always be sickness etc but it's nolonger compulsive God has given you power when you believe and work on your faith

Meaning what exactly?
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Franking: 12:07pm On Apr 16, 2023
dazzlingd:



Person die wake up three days later and became hero, is that one a sacrifice.
When I hear sacrifice it often bewilders me. What is sacrifice in dying knowing that you will wake up three days later?
They say it is the biggest sacrifice ever. When he simply died and went back to meet his mentally unstable blood thirsty father.
He was supposed to die and never been seen again in any part of the universe

Don't mind them. It's surprising that smart and intelligent people believe this tale by moonlight.
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Funmiking(m): 12:20pm On Apr 16, 2023
Which watchtower says Jesus is not a Mediator, and what do you mean?

JW is not an organisation own by an individual who then tell people what to do without following God's righteous standards as inscribe in the scripture.

We believe that Jesus is real, and he has come to fulfill the Messiah prophecy, without having the accurate knowledge of his father and him, it will be difficult to gain everlasting life. (John 17:3)


Mind you, some of the attached that you pasted are not from JW, they are from apostate who's mission is to bring confession among God's people and also those desire to learn the truth, they just want to tarnish God's word and his people, this is why we preach to sanctified God's name.

Jesus once said an enemy will come at night to plant weed among the wheat.... he said he will allow them to grow but when the right time comes they will be separated and destroyed.

Many have come out to say despicable things and published some untruthful words about JW.

But ask yourself, why are they doing all this things? Same way Jesus was treated and persecuted.

Are JW part of worlds problems?
Are JW teachings support the Bible truth?

The pharisees who are religious leader in the time of Jesus hated him because he preached the truth and they never supported Jesus because he refuse to be part of their false traditional teachings.


Jesus is not the world problem, they hated and persecuted him. We JW are not exempted, so many people will say many things about God's true worshipers.

The world hate us for no reason. Simply because we trying to follow God's righteous standards.

Feel free to ask questions or better still Check out the most multilingual website in the world jw.org

Ask yourself also who's behind this great achievement.

We never ask for money or do things for monetary gain.... we only focus on teach people the truth about God's words.

Don't teach what is not in the scripture and don't act like Judas or the pharisees by hating God's people for no reason.
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 12:23pm On Apr 16, 2023
Demzlent:




These are their beliefs;

God
Jehovah's Witnesses believe that:

God the Father (whose name is Jehovah) is "the only true God".
Jesus Christ is his firstborn son, is inferior to God, and was created by God.
The Holy Spirit is not a person; it is God's active force.
The Jehovah's Witness beliefs about God are outlined in detail below.

God (the Father):

God is a single being whose personal name is Jehovah
they also accept the name Yahweh and other transliterations
Jehovah is alone, and above all other beings
Jehovah created everything that exists
Jehovah has a son called Jesus Christ
Jesus is not God
Jesus is not equal to God
Jesus was God's first creation
Jehovah then created everything else through Jesus Christ
Jehovah's outstanding qualities are love, justice, wisdom, and power.
Jesus Christ:

Jesus Christ is a mighty being, but he is not God
Jesus Christ is a lesser and separate spirit being
Jesus Christ is not equal to God in power or eternity (i.e. age)
Jesus Christ never thought of himself as God or equal to God
Jesus Christ is the son of God
Jesus Christ was created by Jehovah as his first creation
So Jesus had a beginning and thus cannot not be eternal
Jesus Christ is inferior to Jehovah, but superior to the angels
Jesus Christ rules as part of God's heavenly kingdom
Jesus Christ is the Messiah predicted in the Old Testament
Jesus Christ came to earth from heaven
When Jesus was on earth he was a perfect human being, but he was not divine in any way
Jesus Christ gave his human life as a sacrifice to make human salvation possible
Witnesses believe that Jesus did not die on a cross but on a single pole or stake
Witnesses believe that Jesus had a spirit resurrection, not a bodily one
Jesus Christ has been appointed by God to judge each human being and decide on their fate
Jesus Christ will be used by God to resurrect the dead
The Holy Spirit:

The holy spirit is Jehovah's active force that he uses to accomplish his will
The holy spirit is not a person
The holy spirit is not part of a Trinity
The Trinity:

The traditional Christian idea that God is a 'Trinity' of Father, Son and Holy Spirit is false and based on pagan ideas
The doctrine of the Trinity is inconsistent with the Bible
The doctrine of the Trinity contradicts what the prophets, Jesus, the apostles, and the early Christians believed and taught


https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/witnesses/beliefs/beliefs.shtml

You have wasted your time typing all these. These are useless to me. We are discussing a different topic. Address the topic in my comment.
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 12:24pm On Apr 16, 2023
Funmiking:


Which watchtower says Jesus is not a Mediator?
JW is not an organisation own by an individual who then tell you what to do without following God's righteous standards.

We believe that Jesus is real, and he has come to fulfill the Messiah prophecy, without having the accurate knowledge of his father and him, it will be difficult to gain everlasting life.


Mind you, some of the attached that you pasted are not from JW, they are from apostate who mission is to bring confession to people who just want to tarnish God's word and people.

Jesus once said an enemy will come at night to plant weed among the wheat.... he said he will allow them to grow but when the right time comes it will be separated and destroyed.

Many have come out to say despicable things and published some untruthful words about JW.

But ask yourself, why are they doing all this things?

Are JW part of worlds problems?
Are JW teachings support the Bible truth?

The pharisees who are religious leader in the time of Jesus hated him because he preached the truth and never supported him because Jesus refuse to be part of there false traditional teachings.


Jesus is not the world problem, they hated and persecuted him. We JW are not exempted, so many people will say many things about his true followers.


Feel free to ask questions or better still Check out the most multilingual website in the world jw.org


We never ask for money or do things for monetary gain.... we only focus on teach people the truth about is words.

Don't teach what is not in the scripture and don't act like Judas or the pharisees by hating God's people for no reason.

As a JW, you don't even know your doctrine. But an outsider knows it better than you. That's shameful. You must have been sleeping and you don't read your publications. Go to your website and type on the search bar Jesus Mediator. Then read your articles. That is the assignment I have given you. All these long words you typed are not needed.

Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:30pm On Apr 16, 2023
Courz:

You have wasted your time typing all these. These are useless to me. We are discussing a different topic. Address the topic in my comment.

You don enter one chance!

Ọmọ adhere to the topic of the OP don't change the topic! cheesy
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 12:35pm On Apr 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


You don enter one chance!

Ọmọ adhere to the topic of the OP don't change the topic! cheesy


That Thread about Babies being Enemies of God which you agreed with, also has discussions on Your human sacrifice No Blood Transfusion discussions there. So I am free to change topic after all sticking to topic has never been in you. You twist and turn your brain when asked very simple questions and you start giving stup1d stories about how dum you are and how you served as An EbubeAgu agent. grin cheesy

Watchtower just released a new Morning worship video in their website that talks about the Governing body likened to the Voice of Jesus. Therefore, submitting to the Governing body means submitting to the authority and Voice of Jesus.

So, I ask, is Jesus Fallible, Not inspired by the Holy Spirit and capable of making errors in decisions and directions like the Governing body? If so, as The Word of God who speaks for his Father, doesn't that mean that God is fallible, not inspired and is capable of making mistakes in decisions and directions?

Explain.

Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:45pm On Apr 16, 2023
Start your own thread if you know anything about Jesus of Nazareth, let others learn from you instead of arguing here and there without anything tangible to preach or teach about the salvation of mankind!

You're free the edit my post as usual! cheesy
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Elidrisy20: 12:47pm On Apr 16, 2023
He didn't not die
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 12:47pm On Apr 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Start your own thread if you know anything about Jesus of Nazareth, let others learn from you instead of arguing here and there without anything tangible to preach or teach about the salvation of mankind!

You're free the edit my post as usual! cheesy

That Thread about Babies being Enemies of God which you agreed with, also has discussions on Your human sacrifice No Blood Transfusion discussions there. So I am free to change topic after all sticking to topic has never been in you. You twist and turn your brain when asked very simple questions and you start giving stup1d stories about how dum you are and how you served as An EbubeAgu agent. grin cheesy

Watchtower just released a new Morning worship video in their website that talks about the Governing body likened to the Voice of Jesus. Therefore, submitting to the Governing body means submitting to the authority and Voice of Jesus.

So, I ask, is Jesus Fallible, Not inspired by the Holy Spirit and capable of making errors in decisions and directions like the Governing body? If so, as The Word of God who speaks for his Father, doesn't that mean that God is fallible, not inspired and is capable of making mistakes in decisions and directions?

Explain.

Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:51pm On Apr 16, 2023
Sadist don enter default mode! cheesy
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Dilaxgraphix: 12:52pm On Apr 16, 2023
Courz:


As a JW, you don't even know your doctrine. But an outsider knows it better than you. That's shameful. You must have been sleeping and you don't read your publications. Go to your website and type on the search bar Jesus Mediator. Then read your articles. That is the assignment I have given you. All these long words you typed are not needed.

Where in all these place you marked did it mentioned that Jesus is not the mediator?

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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 12:52pm On Apr 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Sadist don enter default mode! cheesy

That Thread about Babies being Enemies of God which you agreed with, also has discussions on Your human sacrifice No Blood Transfusion discussions there. So I am free to change topic after all sticking to topic has never been in you. You twist and turn your brain when asked very simple questions and you start giving stup1d stories about how dum you are and how you served as An EbubeAgu agent. grin grin

Watchtower just released a new Morning worship video in their website that talks about the Governing body likened to the Voice of Jesus. Therefore, submitting to the Governing body means submitting to the authority and Voice of Jesus.

So, I ask, is Jesus Fallible, Not inspired by the Holy Spirit and capable of making errors in decisions and directions like the Governing body? If so, as The Word of God who speaks for his Father, doesn't that mean that God is fallible, not inspired and is capable of making mistakes in decisions and directions?

Explain.

Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:54pm On Apr 16, 2023
Dilaxgraphix:

Where in all these place you marked did it mentioned that Jesus is not the mediator?

My brother too much apostate materials has turned this guy into a sadist! smiley
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 12:56pm On Apr 16, 2023
Dilaxgraphix:


Where in all these place you marked did it mentioned that Jesus is not the mediator?

Read the screenshots. You are not blind are you? Wetin dey do you JWs sef? Can't you read? Or is it that you are shocked at what you are reading?

Dum Dum! Jesus is Not your Mediator as Great Crowd Other Sheep. He is Mediator only for the 144,000. You dey see am so?

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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by ddeola: 12:57pm On Apr 16, 2023
Thanks for sharing this lesson. wink
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Courz: 12:57pm On Apr 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


My brother too much apostate materials has turned this guy into a sadist! smiley



That Thread about Babies being Enemies of God which you agreed with, also has discussions on Your human sacrifice No Blood Transfusion discussions there. So I am free to change topic after all sticking to topic has never been in you. You twist and turn your brain when asked very simple questions and you start giving stup1d stories about how dum you are and how you served as An EbubeAgu agent. grin grin

Watchtower just released a new Morning worship video in their website that talks about the Governing body likened to the Voice of Jesus. Therefore, submitting to the Governing body means submitting to the authority and Voice of Jesus. Is that Apostate material? Ewu!

So, I ask, is Jesus Fallible, Not inspired by the Holy Spirit and capable of making errors in decisions and directions like the Governing body? If so, as The Word of God who speaks for his Father, doesn't that mean that God is fallible, not inspired and is capable of making mistakes in decisions and directions?

Explain.

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Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Dilaxgraphix: 1:00pm On Apr 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


My brother too much apostate materials has turned this guy into a sadist! smiley

Seriously, He behaves like the Pharisees, you don't want enter the kingdom of God and you are blocking others from entering.
He is just trying to derail the message.
Re: Why Did Jesus Die? by Ismaila14Nuhu(m): 1:00pm On Apr 16, 2023
[quote author=VenExchangee post=122546696]
Purchase una salvation how ?
So them they even buy salvation for you guys?[
You guys are in a big state of confusion.
May Allah help you out.

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