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Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by senatordave1(m): 2:53pm On Apr 18, 2023
Yes,it is.I know a lot are aggrieved over the loss of obi but if we look beyond that,you will see massive improvements not recorded before.
The bvas technology exposed voters inflation.no candidate could get up to a million vote in any state like we did under the card reader.
There was a lot of upsets,unprecedented electoral shocks.in every state,a lot of political giants lost their elections.over 10 incumbent governors lost their senate polls while zamfara gov lost out,the first time opposition is winning zamfara.an okada man won elections in kaduna,a garri seller won in taraba,a 26 year old won in kwara,a nobody defeated obanikoro and banki w.Mrs ireti defeated sen aduda,a newbie defeated giants to win idemili federal seat,winning Cubana brother and hon ibezi.even the forgotten tony nwoye,the ayaka nsugbe won elections.the last time I witnessed such was in 2011 when sen mantu lost to sati gogwim,when wabara lost momentarily to anpp and when david umaru,oshiomhole,aregbesola won.

Unlike in 2015 and 2019,we had little incidences of underage voting.apart from Lagos and rivers,cases of violence was minimal with low casualties.
For the first time,inec intervened and called its erring staffs to order discipline or suspending RECs in sokoto,Adamawa.

How do we improve our elections?

Firstly,inec should upgrade or improve bvas technology or we should upgrade to full-scale electronic voting.
Secondly,inec should hire its own internal security agents to be Manning polling units as the police who are usually there are mostly unarmed or easily comoromised and do not report or owe allegiance to inec.alternatively,inec should have a dedicated police command which it would through the igp and psc discipline as at when due.
Inec should sponsor a bill that will make electoral offices unlucrative.a president should not be collecting more than 200k a month with no allowance and with just 10 security.a governor salary must not exceed 100k with no allowance.legislature should be part-time and baid 10k per sitting.

Inec should introduce stiff and stringent penalties for election riggers,sponsors of violence or vote buyers.any party or politician caught will be banned for at least 8 election cycles.



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Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Efewestern: 3:23pm On Apr 18, 2023
No magic votes anywhere. There was a great improvement no doubt. I myself was shocked with some results.

INEC/Security agencies need to work on electoral violence or maybe think of better ways Voters can vote without endangering their lives. E-voting (we are not ripe for this but we can start having a discussion on this).

If this election was to be conducted in 2003, there's no way BAT would loose Lagos and PDP, Delta.

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Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by DMerciful(m): 3:28pm On Apr 18, 2023
By far the worst especially when compared with the human and material resources that went into it.

INEC is a fraud. It needs urgent restructuring before it implodes
senatordave1:
Yes,it is.I know a lot are aggrieved over the loss of obi but if we look beyond that,you will see massive improvements not recorded before.
The bvas technology exposed voters inflation.no candidate could get up to a million vote in any state like we did under the card reader.
There was a lot of upsets,unprecedented electoral shocks.in every state,a lot of political giants lost their elections.over 10 incumbent governors lost their senate polls while zamfara gov lost out,the first time opposition is winning zamfara.an okada man won elections in kaduna,a garri seller won in taraba,a 26 year old won in kwara,a nobody defeated obanikoro and banki w.Mrs ireti defeated sen aduda,a newbie defeated giants to win idemili federal seat,winning Cubana brother and hon ibezi.even the forgotten tony nwoye,the ayaka nsugbe won elections.the last time I witnessed such was in 2011 when sen mantu lost to sati gogwim,when wabara lost momentarily to anpp and when david umaru,oshiomhole,aregbesola won.

Unlike in 2015 and 2019,we had little incidences of underage voting.apart from Lagos and rivers,cases of violence was minimal with low casualties.
For the first time,inec intervened and called its erring staffs to order discipline or suspending RECs in sokoto,Adamawa.

How do we improve our elections?

Firstly,inec should upgrade or improve bvas technology or we should upgrade to full-scale electronic voting.
Secondly,inec should hire its own internal security agents to be Manning polling units as the police who are usually there are mostly unarmed or easily comoromised and do not report or owe allegiance to inec.alternatively,inec should have a dedicated police command which it would through the igp and psc discipline as at when due.
Inec should sponsor a bill that will make electoral offices unlucrative.a president should not be collecting more than 200k a month with no allowance and with just 10 security.a governor salary must not exceed 100k with no allowance.legislature should be part-time and baid 10k per sitting.

Inec should introduce stiff and stringent penalties for election riggers,sponsors of violence or vote buyers.any party or politician caught will be banned for at least 8 election cycles.



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Lalasticlala
Nplfmod
Seun
Obinoscopy
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Naptu
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Okoroawusa
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Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by sonature1: 3:46pm On Apr 18, 2023
Elections are over.

Go and do more useful things with yourself.
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by senatordave1(m): 5:27pm On Apr 18, 2023
sonature1:
Elections are over.

Go and do more useful things with yourself.

Shift kid
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by mycar: 5:35pm On Apr 18, 2023
It was supposed to be the best but Tinubu, Wike and APC thwarted all the efforts.

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Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by slivertongue: 5:39pm On Apr 18, 2023
How old were you in 1993?
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by slivertongue: 5:42pm On Apr 18, 2023
DMerciful:
By far the worst especially when compared with the human and material resources that went into it.

INEC is a fraud. It needs urgent restructuring before it implodes

Some truth up there

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Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by darfay: 12:11am On Apr 20, 2023
Efewestern:
No magic votes anywhere. There was a great improvement no doubt. I myself was shocked with some results.

INEC/Security agencies need to work on electoral violence or maybe think of better ways Voters can vote without endangering their lives. E-voting (we are not ripe for this but we can start having a discussion on this).

If this election was to be conducted in 2003, there's no way BAT would loose Lagos and PDP, Delta.

He still rigged Lagos heavily tho and we're over ripe for e voting, this is the 21st century fCs
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Odogwuzack: 12:13am On Apr 20, 2023
The very best since independent.
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Efewestern: 3:18pm On Apr 21, 2023
darfay:


He still rigged Lagos heavily tho and we're over ripe for e voting, this is the 21st century fCs

He lost nevertheless. If not for tribal sentiments he wouldn't have got above 200k votes. But generally, this election was far better than previous elections if we are to be sincere.

We saw how Sanwo-Olu and APC were shaken after their almighty "Godfather" lost the state. If not that the GVR guy was childish and careless at 40, I would have bet my balls that Sanwo-Olu wouldn't have won.

If LP fields better guber candidate next time, they might even snatch Lagos from APC.

E-voting is long overdue. We risked our lives coming out to vote, especially those of us in Delta, Rivers, Lagos. The gubernatorial here was disastrous. My unit was empty because of fear of electoral violence.

E-voting will prevent these many controversies about manipulated results. It will also put many on their toes.

With BAT as the new president, will there be any improvements? Only time can tell.
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Isobug: 3:55pm On Apr 21, 2023
You de whyne me ni
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by darfay: 3:33pm On Apr 23, 2023
Efewestern:


He lost nevertheless. If not for tribal sentiments he wouldn't have got above 200k votes. But generally, this election was far better than previous elections if we are to be sincere.

We saw how Sanwo-Olu and APC were shaken after their almighty "Godfather" lost the state. If not that the GVR guy was childish and careless at 40, I would have bet my balls that Sanwo-Olu wouldn't have won.

If LP fields better guber candidate next time, they might even snatch Lagos from APC.

E-voting is long overdue. We risked our lives coming out to vote, especially those of us in Delta, Rivers, Lagos. The gubernatorial here was disastrous. My unit was empty because of fear of electoral violence.

E-voting will prevent these many controversies about manipulated results. It will also put many on their toes.

With BAT as the new president, will there be any improvements? Only time can tell.

His loosing Lagos was a calculated move to create the impression of a Free and fair election which some of you seem to have bought. Tinubu lost heavily throughout Lagos with the exception of ikorodu,Badagry and Epe

The only good thing about this election was that BVAS was able to reduce unrealistic vote from certain areas especially those fishing villages in the Niger Delta that churns out outrageous figures. Figures from Delta south are still a shock to me but if it would not be uniformly applied nationwide then it's a disservice to everyone. Some places in the north didn't apply it plus child voters

Gbadebo only lost Lagos due to tribal sentiment, it was forking hell on election day, non Yorubas were hurled with insults and violence, they forking had canes for non Yoruba voters in my polling unit. Tinubu's Apc has destroyed Lagos with tribalism and it's crazy how he was even able to amass any iota of votes in the SS because his minions will not spare us in their tribal madness against the igbos. Even if Gbadebo had said what was supposedly acceptable he would have lost, what did Jimi Agbaje do for them to label him jimichukwu in 2015? The crazy thing is that it's aboriginal Lagosians that are being marginalized but they don't seem to mind as they have fallen for Tinubu's tribal politics. Sanwo olu and his deputy are ijebu from Ogun state but Awori people in Ogun state will never have a chance to govern Ogun also.

I really wish obi would get in or even if he tries again, he would have gotten better electoral numbers, it's really had for us to get another person that would be accountable to us, on the issue of e voting, I really don't see why we shouldn't, it's not like we're pioneering anything, we're just going to copy what others have done. I almost cried when I saw a thread by a southie on NL here about how they get election results in real time enabled by E voting

It's like okowa now has a death grip on Delta state
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Efewestern: 6:37pm On Apr 23, 2023
darfay:


His loosing Lagos was a calculated move to create the impression of a Free and fair election which some of you seem to have bought. Tinubu lost heavily throughout Lagos with the exception of ikorodu,Badagry and Epe

The only good thing about this election was that BVAS was able to reduce unrealistic vote from certain areas especially those fishing villages in the Niger Delta that churns out outrageous figures. Figures from Delta south are still a shock to me but if it would not be uniformly applied nationwide then it's a disservice to everyone. Some places in the north didn't apply it plus child voters

Gbadebo only lost Lagos due to tribal sentiment, it was forking hell on election day, non Yorubas were hurled with insults and violence, they forking had canes for non Yoruba voters in my polling unit. Tinubu's Apc has destroyed Lagos with tribalism and it's crazy how he was even able to amass any iota of votes in the SS because his minions will not spare us in their tribal madness against the igbos. Even if Gbadebo had said what was supposedly acceptable he would have lost, what did Jimi Agbaje do for them to label him jimichukwu in 2015? The crazy thing is that it's aboriginal Lagosians that are being marginalized but they don't seem to mind as they have fallen for Tinubu's tribal politics. Sanwo olu and his deputy are ijebu from Ogun state but Awori people in Ogun state will never have a chance to govern Ogun also.

I really wish obi would get in or even if he tries again, he would have gotten better electoral numbers, it's really had for us to get another person that would be accountable to us, on the issue of e voting, I really don't see why we shouldn't, it's not like we're pioneering anything, we're just going to copy what others have done. I almost cried when I saw a thread by a southie on NL here about how they get election results in real time enabled by E voting

It's like okowa now has a death grip on Delta state

BAT/APC performed poorly in this election. They struggled everywhere. The results in Lagos was highly manipulated no doubt. I wasn't impressed with the votes from SE. Don't you think they could have given LP the needed boost. A rerun with just LP and APC would have been in favour of LP.

As for the GBV guy, he purely lost. The violence and Tribal sentiments employed by the leading party wasn't even necessary. Just a stain on Sanwo-Olu's victory. The guy messed up a great chance and opportunity to govern one of Nigeria's most influential state. I expected more from an adult who wants to lead in a country like Nigeria. Somethings said weren't necessary... Just unnecessary. I'm pissed he wasted the party's ticket and i can bet that he won't win any election in SW with what they have against him. JIMI didn't get the chance GBV got. APC will always play the tribal card in Lagos but you don't give them reason to use it against you. Who even advised that guy ?

I thought the Ijebus were still indigenous to Lagos? Abeg na their matter be that. Nigeria is a very tribalistic country and I've gotten used to this fact.

Well, in my objective view, there was a great improvement in this election and it is by far one of the best conducted so far by the INEC. The BVAs reduced inflated votes everywhere. Look at what Borno state gave this year Vs what they have given in previous years. The KKK's too didn't give much. I wasn't impressed with the live transmission of results. What could probably prevent agents from uploading results immediately it was collated. Naija self.
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by XY23: 7:04pm On Apr 23, 2023
Yes. It successfully gave an unprecedented high number of first-time, and a good number of traditional VOTERS a reason NEVER to vote again in Nigeria. In essence, technology has set our electoral system backward. What an irony?
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Svoboda(m): 9:15pm On Apr 23, 2023
2023 was free and fair. It ranks among the best in conduct and outcome. Peter obi and his band are trying so hard to dilute Bats victory. Elections are about strategy. Tinubu had things already planned out ahead of time. That was what basically won him the election.

For a multi tribal, religiously plural country like nigeria, especially with a presidential system, elections are bound to court some controversy. 1993 had its own. But inec did a good job this time around and can only improve. At least we are begining to see the real indepence of the election managers.

If only some of these noisy millenials had witnessed
the sham that was the elections obj conducted in 2003 and 2007, then they'd have agreed that 2023 was actually made in heaven.

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Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by darfay: 9:58pm On Apr 23, 2023
Efewestern:


BAT/APC performed poorly in this election. They struggled everywhere. The results in Lagos was highly manipulated no doubt. I wasn't impressed with the votes from SE. Don't you think they could have given LP the needed boost. A rerun with just LP and APC would have been in favour of LP.

As for the GBV guy, he purely lost. The violence and Tribal sentiments employed by the leading party wasn't even necessary. Just a stain on Sanwo-Olu's victory. The guy messed up a great chance and opportunity to govern one of Nigeria's most influential state. I expected more from an adult who wants to lead in a country like Nigeria. Somethings said weren't necessary... Just unnecessary. I'm pissed he wasted the party's ticket and i can bet that he won't win any election in SW with what they have against him. JIMI didn't get the chance GBV got. APC will always play the tribal card in Lagos but you don't give them reason to use it against you. Who even advised that guy ?

I thought the Ijebus were still indigenous to Lagos? Abeg na their matter be that. Nigeria is a very tribalistic country and I've gotten used to this fact.

Well, in my objective view, there was a great improvement in this election and it is by far one of the best conducted so far by the INEC. The BVAs reduced inflated votes everywhere. Look at what Borno state gave this year Vs what they have given in previous years. The KKK's too didn't give much. I wasn't impressed with the live transmission of results. What could probably prevent agents from uploading results immediately it was collated. Naija self.

They deliberately reduced votes in opposition strong hold, in my polling unit they only brought one Bvas machine as opposed to two according to them. They brought the one containing surname from A-K (of this category Yoruba names are way more) while that of L-Z(more igbo) was unavailable until 5 till they left, over half disenfranchised plus over 100 people one the queue were not allowed to vote. The area in question was a pdp stronghold, LP still won the presidential, I can imagine same tactics was used in SE. There was a polling unit this Chude guy posted on Twitter with over a thousand people on queue in onitcha but only 168 voted, such nonsense doesn't happen up north

Jimi performed better than GRV and it was actually close. No matter what you do, Lagos APC will always term the opposition igbos so as to whip up tribal sentiment. It's going to implode one day

Aworis are the main indigenous subgroup in Lagos occupying the major areas, ijebus in Lagos are around ikorodu and Epe. Sanwo and his deputy are both from Ogun. Indigenous Lagosians are still a small dominated Minority in their own state thanks to Tinubu

Tinubu bought the entire Inec and I still think the election was a scam, just look at what happened in Adamawa state. Figures from the kkk was still the highest thanks to underage voting. Ine need to do better
Re: Is 2023 Polls The Best Since 1993? by Ukalu381(m): 10:01pm On Apr 23, 2023
I just tire for this kain question op dey ask. You saw how the election was organized, you watch the vids of thugs attacking voters and all. Smh

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