Reminderz:

still yet no valid proofs, I doubt you Christians really follow the teachings of Jesus himself... I really doubt...

that aside, what can you say about that image of Jesus the OP posted? are Christians who believe in it brainwashed and deceived? I don't even believe in it from the onset... yet some Christians even worship that image smh

so tell me what you think? is that image the so called your "lord and personal saviour"?

Dat guy doesnt have anything upstairs. He is not really a christian.
I asked him some light questions and he is jumping from pillar to post.

I know Jesus never died for Africans and Gentiles. He himself said he didnt come for the Gentiles but the jews.

Evolutionlove:


Someone please take this Kindergarten Pupil to the Cleaners please😂

Brainwashed & Breeindeead Mofos😂

I'm telling you bro... let's even examine Christianity as the truth, a lot of things that they are doing today aren't even in tally with what the person they claim to follow did... they are following Saul which Jesus never met in his life or never acknowledged... the Saul later changed his name to Paul when he turned himself to Christian and changed his name after he lied to have met Jesus which he never did... Paul is the greatest antichrist, by changing the words of Jesus and teachings of the laws of Moses which Jesus said to have come to fufill.. let's examine Jesus did and what he said, and what so called Christians are doing today...

1. Jesus preached against consuming pork and alcohol, Christians have pork and alcohol

2. Jesus worshiped one God alone, and never talked about trinity or 3-1 god bullshit...

3. Jesus worshiped with his face unto the ground...

4. Jesus never claimed to be God or claimed divinity...

5. Jesus was only sent to Israel in his own words

6. Jesus never wanted to die when they planned to kill him, at a time he was even hiding trying to avoid being seen in public..

7. the Bible says every man for his own sin, the father won't be put to death for the sin of his son.. the soul shall sins shall die

8. if Jesus claim to want to die, why was he telling God that why hath he forsaken him...??

9. Jesus wasn't born in December 25 and nowhere in the Bible did they celebrate Easter or Christmas...

10. the word trinity is never mentioned in the Bible

11. this is why we have so many Bible versions which they are not the same... some verses were even removed from some Bibles because they believed it to be false... just like the verse that said there are 3 that bear witness in heaven, this verse has been removed from the RSV and so many versions of the Bible... the Bible is believed to contain great and many errors...

12. Jesus is a man which God has sent just like Moses... he never claimed to be God or never said he was coming to die for sins... he never said he's the Christian God and personal saviour..

13.. in the lord's prayer, the first one is our father, which means the God that Jesus worshiped is the one that you should also worship.. Jesus is not God, don't worship him, on that day he will deny you...

14. Jesus did all the miracles he did with the power of God who sent him... he acknowledged the miracles he did to God so many times in the Bible..

15. he told a young man who asked him a question that “why do you call me good? none is good but God alone”.. Jesus never claimed to be God

16. Jesus is a Jew according to the Bible

17. Paul wrote more than 60% of the Bible... how was Paul later killed, he was beheaded and cut into pieces..

18. the Bible says anyone hanged on the cross is of the accursed.. if Christians believe Jesus was hanged then they also believe he is of the accursed...

19. Jesus was circumcised, some Christians are not...

20. Jesus said himself that God is greater than him, but Christians today claim Jesus to be God himself

all these evidences are found in the Bible and many more.. so many errors and contradictions in the Bible..

Reminderz:

tell me in the Bible in the words of Jesus himself where he claimed to be God and I will believe you... remember, I said the words of Jesus himself...

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Rev 1:8

Brainmytool:


Dat guy doesnt have anything upstairs. He is not really a christian.
I asked him some light questions and he is jumping from pillar to post.

I know Jesus never died for Africans and Gentiles. He himself said he didnt come for the Gentiles but the jews.

exactly... he said himself that he didn't come for the gentiles (non-jews) but the lost sheep of Israel's alone i.e. Jew...

how can they claim that he died for the whole world when he said he only claim to come for the Jews alone? why are they fabricating lies on Jesus? why are they putting their words in his mouth?? who are they really following... I'm sure it's not Jesus

9jamustchange:


I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Rev 1:8

lol that was God's word Himself not jesus.. seems you can't even identify jesus words himself... that's God's words which jesus himself worship


if you can't identify the words spoken by jesus himself, read the red-letter Bible, then come back to me..

Reminderz:

still yet no valid proofs, I doubt you Christians really follow the teachings of Jesus himself... I really doubt...

that aside, what can you say about that image of Jesus the OP posted? are Christians who believe in it brainwashed and deceived? I don't even believe in it from the onset... yet some Christians even worship that image smh

so tell me what you think? is that image the so called your "lord and personal saviour"?

You don't even believe. So what point do you want to go on arguing. There's always an eye opener at the end at death. Just wait it out. When you meet face to face with Jesus after death, you'll have all your questions answered.

For the meantime, about images, my bible never instructs us to make images of Jesus.

Jesus didn't leave us His images. He is not bothered by statutes and sculptures. He is all about saving the souls of men. He cares about our body (flesh), soul and spirits.

So images is irrelevant to our salvation. Any Christian holding onto it is only not fully informed. However he or she will still be saved.

elipheleh:


You don't even believe. So what point do you want to go on arguing. There's always an eye opener at the end at death. Just wait it out. When you meet face to face with Jesus after death, you'll have all your questions answered.

For the meantime, about images, my bible never instructs us to make images of Jesus.

Jesus didn't leave us His images. He is not bothered by statutes and sculptures. He is all about saving the souls of men. He cares about our body (flesh), soul and spirits.

So images is irrelevant to our salvation. Any Christian holding onto it is only not fully informed. However he or she will still be saved.

how will they be saved when they are not worshipping the God that Jesus himself worshipped? how can they be saved when they are making these sculptures and bowing down in worship to it? how can they be saved when they are not following the words and teachings of Jesus himself? I said I don't believe in the image.. don't try to put words in my mouth as you're trying to tell me what jesus himself didn't say

Reminderz:

how will they be saved when they are not worshipping the God that Jesus himself worshipped? how can they be saved when they are making these sculptures and bowing down in worship to it? how can they be saved when they are not following the words and teachings of Jesus himself? I said I don't believe in the image.. don't try to put words in my mouth as you're trying to tell me what jesus himself didn't say

I don't know any christian that worships images. I know you think some Christians do. You may think Catholics worship images. I myself I am not a catholic but from all catholics I've known, I understand they don't worship images.

They only hold images dear to them as a reminder of the SAVIOUR. Some identity to show who they serve.

If any man actually worships images, then he or she is not even a christian to begin with.

Which kind of human beings dey full nairaland sef, can't you read without derailing the thread , why must you all be so opinionated on a faceless forum , your arguments will and cannot change anyone's beliefs, bunch of spineless keyboard warriors.... Op abeg continue jare

elipheleh:
Let me just be here again to debunk any lies I see here.

1. For a starter, these astral entities which my bible rightly calls demons are not in no way affiliated with Jesus Christ. Jesus is not another type of entity. Jesus Christ is Lord of all flesh and all spirits.

2. There is no reincarnation. The bible teaches about the resurrection of the dead. And thales reason is for judgement, not for some silly reincarnation.

John 5:28-29
28Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice 29and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.e

For you to Study the history of our religion wont take you too much.
But as a mentally lazy and dull person, you won't.
Nothing about christianity is original but stolen ideas from different religion to make a fake version.

Even the name Israel is trinity stolen from Egypt.

ISIS + Ra + El = Israel

Stephenmoka4:
I am not a Muslim, and I have seen some damages done terming it "haram".

Seems you're scared of them.

Reminderz:

I'm telling you show me the words of Jesus himself where he said he's God... you're telling me the words of other people... and the last quote where he said he and is father was one, he was speaking metaphorically... is just like saying your father that gave birth to you are in the same in the terms of if someone wishes to give your father something, if he's not around, they can give it to you.. which simply means if they've seen you, it is believed they've seen your father because they know you will deliver the message to them... you and your father are two different people physically and literally... he was speaking metaphorically not literally... Jesus later clarified this when he said His Father, which is God is greater than him and also greater than all in John 10v29, John 14v28 and the likes... just like when Moses and Abraham was alive, they were the truth which the people follow

if you interpret all the words that Jesus said in the literal meaning then you'll be on the wrong side of the track, he spoke some words metaphorically, while some in probables and some literally... and again, I told you to show me the words of Jesus himself where he said he's God or where he ordered you to worship him? or where he said that he's your personal lord and saviour...don't beat around the bush

This argument of theirs has no back up evidence, so when Jesus was in pains on the cross, why did he call to his father for help if he is truly God himself!

Ourtruth247:
The Baphomet

When a priest pronounce benediction, that is the shape of our hand and fingers. We call it "the hand of benediction". It has variations, but principally the same

Ourtruth247:
The holy trinity

Another case of mockery of christianity is the incorportation of dark occultic egyptian worship into the religion.

The holy trinity of christianity is just a reconstruction of the original holy trinity in Egypt.

The doctrine of holy trinity is a false doctrine and paganistic.

There's nothing like trinity in the bible and there's nothing that suggests such.

What we call Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one and the same person who revealed Himself to mankind under different dispensations.

Father - Creator
Son - Jesus (in the personification as a man). Son here actually means incarnate. That is God's incarnate (God in the form of a man)
Holy Spirit - the fulfillment of an indwelling divine personality. God inside of us.

Reminderz:

tell me in the Bible in the words of Jesus himself where he claimed to be God and I will believe you... remember, I said the words of Jesus himself...

...you have seen the father,...he that has seen me has seen the father, how do you say then show me the father?
~John 14: 7-9

Here's what the disciples wrote:

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Believe now?

Reminderz:

I'm telling you show me the words of Jesus himself where he said he's God... you're telling me the words of other people... and the last quote where he said he and is father was one, he was speaking metaphorically... is just like saying your father that gave birth to you are in the same in the terms of if someone wishes to give your father something, if he's not around, they can give it to you.. which simply means if they've seen you, it is believed they've seen your father because they know you will deliver the message to them... you and your father are two different people physically and literally... he was speaking metaphorically not literally... Jesus later clarified this when he said His Father, which is God is greater than him and also greater than all in John 10v29, John 14v28 and the likes... just like when Moses and Abraham was alive, they were the truth which the people follow

if you interpret all the words that Jesus said in the literal meaning then you'll be on the wrong side of the track, he spoke some words metaphorically, while some in probables and some literally... and again, I told you to show me the words of Jesus himself where he said he's God or where he ordered you to worship him? or where he said that he's your personal lord and saviour...don't beat around the bush

The error you are making is that you limit God.

You find it hard to believe that God can take up flesh, that He can be omnipresent, that He can dwell even in mortal men.

Your limited idea of God will make you not to believe any wonder of testimony any one tells you.

You think that when Jesus says my Father, He is refering to someone that gave birth to him same as you call your father, Dad.

You think that the word father only means one that biologically begets another but not as the Creator.

Believing is a faith thing and requires no physical evidences beyond what you already have seen. You either believe or you don't. So don't come and ask for evidences because no matter what is put before you, you will refuse to comprehend.

Reminderz:

still yet no valid proofs, I doubt you Christians really follow the teachings of Jesus himself... I really doubt...

that aside, what can you say about that image of Jesus the OP posted? are Christians who believe in it brainwashed and deceived? I don't even believe in it from the onset... yet some Christians even worship that image smh

so tell me what you think? is that image the so called your "lord and personal saviour"?

U r too daft
The picture OP posted was the picture of d pesin wey act Jesus for passion of Christ.

I would reply u only if u know the meaning of Christian

A real Christian know say Easter and Christmas na scam they were impose by the romans during the persecution of real Christian in early days of Christianity.
D romans do worship diety in order for them to blend there deity with Christianity after they stop killing and persecuting Christian dey now introduce one church which is known as catholic church.

I wish to explain further but I know u were blind to.................

Drone17:

The error you are making is that you limit God.

You find it hard to believe that God can take up flesh, that He can be omnipresent, that He can dwell even in mortal men.

Your limited idea of God will make you not to believe any wonder of testimony any one tells you.

You think that when Jesus says my Father, He is refering to someone that gave birth to him same as you call your father, Dad.

You think that the word father only means one that biologically begets another but not as the Creator.

Believing is a faith thing and requires no physical evidences beyond what you already have seen. You either believe or you don't. So don't come and ask for evidences because no matter what is put before you, you will refuse to comprehend.

God is not a man, simple! and @bolded, when did I say that or tell you that's what I think? so you believe your own god was hanged on the cross?? lmao.. you better open your brain bro?

Malachi 3v6 said the lord does not change...

Numbers 23:19
God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

“Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God.” John 8:39-40.

Jesus is just a man whom God sent..

until you show me where it says the Jesus said himself that he's God and you should worship him and where he said he's your Lord and personal saviour that's when I will believe... and stop quoting Timothy.. that's words of Paul the greatest antichrist who changed Jesus teachings who Jesus never met in his life...

Reminderz:

God is not a man, simple! and @bolded, when did I say that or tell you that's what I think? so you believe your own god was hanged on the cross?? lmao.. you better open your brain bro?

Malachi 3v6 said the lord does not change...

Numbers 23:19
God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

“Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God.” John 8:39-40.

Jesus is just a man whom God sent..

until you show me where it says the Jesus said himself that he's God and you should worship him and where he said he's your Lord and personal saviour that's when I will believe... and stop quoting Timothy.. that's words of Paul the greatest antichrist who changed Jesus teachings who Jesus never met in his life...

1. Jesus in various manners accepted worship.

2. Jesus in various manners announced Himself to be God.

3. Jesus in various manners acted as God.

He does not need to spell it out. Even though He actually did.

All that Paul wrote was just a repitation of what Jesus said and did. Those who actually saw and met Jesus said the same things.

Even quran accepted He was taken up in glory.

There is no point talking to you about the purpose of His death because the mystery would probably make you cry. But simply put, He didn't just die like every other man. Truly, truly, He died for you

Our truth is back!!!!

Drone17:

1. Jesus in various manners accepted worship.

2. Jesus in various manners announced Himself to be God.

3. Jesus in various manners acted as God.

He does not need to spell it out. Even though He actually did.

All that Paul wrote was just a repitation of what Jesus said and did. Those who actually saw and met Jesus said the same things.

Even quran accepted He was taken up in glory.

There is no point talking to you about the purpose of His death because the mystery would probably make you cry. But simply put, He didn't just die like every other man. Truly, truly, He died for you

you're just rambling without showing me a proof in the Bible where Jesus himself called himself God and told you to worship him.. and where he also told you he's your Lord and personal saviour.. someone that was only sent to the Jews.. he didn't die for you, don't be deceived...

Reminderz:

you're just rambling without showing me a proof in the Bible where Jesus himself called himself God and told you to worship him.. and where he also told you he's your Lord and personal saviour.. someone that was only sent to the Jews.. he didn't die for you, don't be deceived...

Ok we have heard and it will change nothing about us Christians, focus on your own religion...We thank God for Jesus, he died on the cross for me and you ....if you like smash your phone ,If you like argue,it's not changing anything anytime soon ....... I love Jesus
Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus
Go and hug transformer

Reminderz:

you're just rambling without showing me a proof in the Bible where Jesus himself called himself God and told you to worship him.. and where he also told you he's your Lord and personal saviour.. someone that was only sent to the Jews.. he didn't die for you, don't be deceived...

He has already said He is the Way, Truth and Life and that no one can have any relationship with God except in Him. We are the ones who should call Him Lord and personal saviour. He does need to call Himself that.

He does not need to call Himself God. Any one including fools can do that. What He has done is to act as God by accepting worship, forgiving sins, healing sicknesses, raising the dead, and performing miracles.

Its self denial and deceit that is making you ask for a written contract by Jesus spelling Himself to be God. Something anyone can do.

To the Christian brethren in this thread, you guys are derailing the thread without stating a better argument.

This is not a mature thing to do as a child of God.
If you have a contrary opinion, kindly make your point and attach links to be detailed and drive home your case.
All these irrelevant derails doesn't show maturity nor is even "Christ like".
You guys can do better.

Drone17:

He has already said He is the Way, Truth and Life and that no one can have any relationship with God except in Him. We are the ones who should call Him Lord and personal saviour. He does need to call Himself that.

He does not need to call Himself God. Any one including fools can do that. What He has done is to act as God by accepting worship, forgiving sins, healing sicknesses, raising the dead, and performing miracles.

Its self denial and deceit that is making you ask for a written contract by Jesus spelling Himself to be God. Something anyone can do.

lol act as God... 🤡

in the time of Moses and Abraham who was the way and truth? because of your hypocrisy, you didn't write the correct statement... is that what the Bible says? no one can have relationship with God except in Him? let's assume you're right.. you just said he's God which he never claimed to be? how come he still said no one can come to the Father except through him.. it even shows further that he's not God himself...

Beebah321:
Wow
Na Jesus own shock me pass

I’ve known this for long but I scared to talk about it that those Jesus pictures frame in churches are hoax! Nobody knew how he was, Jesus wey make up?
Why don’t we have black Jesus instead?

elipheleh:
Let me just be here again to debunk any lies I see here.

1. For a starter, these astral entities which my bible rightly calls demons are not in no way affiliated with Jesus Christ. Jesus is not another type of entity. Jesus Christ is Lord of all flesh and all spirits.

2. There is no reincarnation. The bible teaches about the resurrection of the dead. And thales reason is for judgement, not for some silly reincarnation.

John 5:28-29
28Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice 29and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.e

U went too far.

The OP already agrees there is something called the occult. Fake prophets use it.

Let him also tell us if he believes in miracles and deliverance.
Let him explain demonic possession and deliverance.

That will tell us his mindset.

OP has abandoned this thread…


AGAIN!

Next… he will deactivate this account.


By the way this is probably the most derailed thread I ever saw on NL!

Reminderz:

now this is where you're wrong, Muslims don't worship the cube... they face the direction of the Kaaba, but they don't worship it... this is according to what is in the Qur'an.. unlike Christians celebrating Christmas and Easter which is not found in the Bible but man made ideologies

Continue deceiving yourself on the two religion forced upon our grate grand fathers most especially the religion that start with I, beside you don't have any evidence that shows that God is a Muslim or a Christian. The best you can do is to live a worthy life and leave this argument along because being a Christian or Muslim doesn't garanty you heaven or whatever you call it, you will see a lot of Christians and Muslims swimming in corruption and you be wondering why they are doing such despite practicing one of the religion I mentioned.

nnamdi640:
Continue deceiving yourself on the two religion forced upward our grate grand fathers, beside you don't have any evidence that shows that God is a Muslim or a Christian. The best you can do is to live a worthy life and leave this argument along because being a Christian or Muslim doesn't garanty you heaven or whatever you call it, you will see a lot of Christians and Muslims swimming in corruption and you be wondering why the are doing such.

other people swimming in corruption is not your concern... you came alone, so also you'll die alone... your concern should be about salvation and doing what matters... your concern should be pleasing your Lord... what other people are doing is not your business, everyone will carry his or her own cross... God is not a Muslim or Christian of course because that's the attributes of a human not God.. God doesn't have a tribe, or colour.. God is not a being... God sent his approved message through humans to guide mankind towards the truth.. He has specified a way in which humans should worship and follow him...

Ourtruth247:
Hi guys. Those that have been following my research should be aware of the kind of topics I get into. My goal is to explore the true nature of reality and provide evidence to back up the sad conclusions that my research has led to.

The summary of my research is that the world is controlled by a group of beings, who aren't even human, and they've manipulated human society for thousands of years and are still doing so. Most importantly, these beings keep human souls in a repeated unending cycle of reincarnation where our memories are wiped out at death and we are manipulated into reincarnating in new bodies with no memories of our past lives.

Also, when you climb the ladder of power to the very top of religion and politics, you will realize that those at the top are dark occultists of the worst kind and they worship these non human beings. Major religions like Christianity and Islam have been coopted by these people and their occultic symbolism intertwined with it.

This thread provides more evidence in picture form to all these claims

Enjoy.

So you think if such powers existed, they would let you write all this crap?

Guy, dey play.

Reminderz:

other people swimming in corruption is not your concern... you came alone, so also you'll die alone... your concern should be about salvation and doing what matters... your concern should be pleasing your Lord... what other people are doing is not your business, everyone will carry his or her own cross... God is not a Muslim or Christian of course because that's the attributes of a human not God.. God doesn't have a tribe, or colour.. God is not a being... God sent his approved message through humans to guide mankind towards the truth.. He has specified a way in which humans should worship and follow him...

Am just correcting someone that was trying indirectly to say that Muslim is better than Christi*n, am not saying I look at other people in order to practice my own faith. You should first understand someone comment before jumping in to reply.