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Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Nobody: 10:55pm On Sep 15, 2009 |
This topic, Born Again, is understood differently by different Christian Organisation. For example Jehovah's Witnesses say you are born again not to live on earth but for the coming kingdom. BLW believes a born again Christian cannot sin even if he fornicates for example because it is not in the nature of the born again christian to commit sin. There are different theologies surrounding this topic. So what is the real meaning of Born Again according to the Bible. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by GODSON2009(m): 1:24am On Sep 16, 2009 |
being born again means to be dead to sin,the sinful world and all its filthy lucres and then ressurect i.e being born again(not literally)into a new life and new way of doing things,serving the lord, |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Nobody: 6:49am On Sep 16, 2009 |
@Godson being Born Again, is it an instant thing or a gradual process? Is it based on works or on faith? Is salvation the same as being born again? Why does BLW preach that a born again christian cannot commit sin? Expecting your reply. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by MrCrackles(m): 12:40pm On Sep 16, 2009 |
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Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by plappville(f): 2:06am On Sep 03, 2012 |
babaearly: This topic, Born Again, is understood differently by different Christian Organisation. I used to understand it this way before, but the truth is that We cant be “born again” in this life with our physical body . Christ is the First born from the dead. (first Born again) (Colossians 1:15-18) And he says His kingdom is not of this world ( John 18:36) this means, The kingdom of God Is not here now. Notice when Nicodemus asked Christ about how to be saved (enter into the Kingdom) (John 3:1-6) the reply was “Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” Nicodemus did not get the msg. But "HOW?“ Jesus replied, Except a man be born of water [the first physica human birth after conversion] and of the "Spirit" [At the resurrection], he cannot enter into the kingdom of God” As we are not yet SPIRIT, but Flesh and Blood, we cannot enter into God’s kingdom. because Paul made it clearer that “flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (I Cor. 15:50). Professing Jesus Christ does not make us Born again but made us "new creatures",( 2 Corinthians 5:17) (Rom 6:4) (ezekiel36:26.) New in everything that we do. Our physical and spiritual living/ways will become new. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by CrazyMan(m): 8:24am On Sep 03, 2012 |
Take your time to read this passage, and I believe it would be much clearer to you. [b]John 3:1-12 Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him." 3 Jesus replied, "Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again." 4 "How can someone be born when they are old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother's womb to be born!" 5 Jesus answered, "Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." 9 "How can this be?" Nicodemus asked. 10 "You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? 11 Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him." 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.[/b] |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by esere826: 8:36am On Sep 03, 2012 |
@OP 'Born again' was referred to only once in the bible. But I guess that our fear of the after life made christians adopt its usage so profiously. Please also remember that Nicodemus did not ask christ about going to heaven before christ explained the meaning of born again to him. this should tell us something really deep. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Image123(m): 11:00am On Sep 03, 2012 |
to be born again is to be born a second time, the first being the physical birth and the second being spiritual birth as a child of God, a new creature. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by plappville(f): 3:02pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Image123: to be born again is to be born a second time, the first being the physical birth and the second being spiritual birth as a child of God, a new creature. Being a new creature you still live in the "flesh and blood" (physical) which the bible stated that You cannot enter the kingdom of God. flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God” (I Cor. 15:50). Entering into Gods kingdom is inheriting it. Have u entered the Kingdom now? But you will habe been a new creature since you denouced ur bad past to follow Christ. You will become born again during ressuraction. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by oiseworld: 4:49pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
plappville: this your interpretation is powerful, i can't stop laughing. when the Bible says living in the flesh it means you are controlled by the flesh and when it says you must be born of the spirit it also means to be controlled by the spirit. being controlled by the spirit is to understand that the spirit has great influence over the physical(flesh) and decide to take control of the spirit. God is a spirit and they that worship him MUST worship him in spirit and in truth. soo being born of the spirit is to be influence by God and his desires. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Image123(m): 5:17pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
plappville:you HAVE TO BE born again before you can enter the kingdom of God. Except a man be born again, he cannot, must not, and would not enter into the kingdom of God. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Kobojunkie: 6:57pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
This topic, Born Again, is understood differently by different Christian Organisation.As Jesus Christ explained in His sermon to Nicodemus, Man was born flesh and blood from his mother's womb. Jesus Christ told you this in His Gospel, affirming what God said in the beginning when He pointed out that man was made from the clay of this earth, not spirit - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7 5 Jesus answered, “Believe me when I say that everyone must be born from water and the Spirit. Anyone who is not born from water and the Spirit cannot enter God’s kingdom.Jesus Christ went on to explain in the passage above that being born-again means to be born of the Spirit of Eternal Life , and He, the Spirit of Eternal Life wields control over those who are born of Him turning them in whichever direction He—Spirit of Eternal Life — chooses aka Spiritual possession. Basically, to be born of the Spirit of (Eternal Life) is to be possessed by the Spirit of Eternal Life . So, if you have yet to be possessed by the Spirit of Eternal Life, you have yet to become born-again, and enter into the Kingdom of God. If you do not have a controlling spirit living inside of you eternally or at least 24/7, you are not born-again. Of utmost is that one has to be born-again before one can enter into the Kingdom of God either through the broad Gate which leads to eternal damnation at the end, or through the narrow gate which leads to eternal reward at its end - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Kobojunkie: 7:04pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
GODSON2009:1. That statement is a bloody lie! No where in the context of the conversation which Jesus Christ had with Nicodemus regarding the subject — born-again— was the problem of sin raised - John 3 vs 1 - 21. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:06pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
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Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by MightySparrow: 7:27pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=122643374][/quote] 1Pet.1.23 - For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. It is not mentioned again kwa? This epistle was written not to a particular people like Romans, Colossians etc. It is general epistle. Roman 10: 9 - 10 |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
Papa Oyedepo atheist pikin! MightySparrow: |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Kobojunkie: 7:30pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
■ being Born Again, is it an instant thing or a gradual process?1. The process starts from the moment you decide to make the change from following the Old Law of Moses to following the New Law and Covenant in the Kingdom of God. As Jesus Christ made clear, you have to be born of Water and born of Spirit in order to then gain access to the Kingdom of God (either through the Broad gate or the narrow gate - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14- depending on your approach to things). To be born of Spirit means to be born of the Spirit of Eternal life aka grace, and He, as described by Jesus Christ in John 3 vs 5 - 8, is not a passive passenger that possesses you. What this means is that when He comes onboard of you — when you are born of Him— you will be aware of His presence. And His presence — a new consciousness in you— means you are [b]eternally [/b]bound to the New Covenant and the Kingdom of God — there is no going back after that handshake. 2. Pretty much because you cannot be born again if you do not obey the simple commands required for the process to take place. Faith refers to work done in trust and obedience to the teachings and commandments of God, in this case, Jesus Christ — God's Law in the Kingdom of God. 3. There are two salvations offered by Jesus Christ actually. The first you experience when you become born-again is salvation from the penalty of Death that was upon you before as a result of God's Judgement against all sinners of Israel. 4. The religion of Christianity is founded on the doctrines and traditions of men i.e. lies that have nothing to do with that which is in fact stated in scripture and are the works of the antichrists— false teachers and false prophets — that Jesus Christ warned His disciples to steer clear of. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by MightySparrow: 7:33pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Proudly pentecostal. Hallelujah!!!!!!!!! |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:35pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
MightySparrow: Oya begin quoting Romans 10:2-3 to justify the useless religion Oyedepo arranged to gather faithless miscreants like you. Please explain how you people are submitting to the righteousness of God as written in God's word not how you're blindly following Oyedepo! |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by bobestman(m): 7:44pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
I am born before |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Kobojunkie: 8:46pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
plappville:1. But Jesus Christ said it is possible to be born-again in this life hence the reason why He offered the Kingdom of God to us living, not to the dead. 2. The Kingdom of God itself arrived after, not before, Jesus Christ was resurrected from the dead, and this was almost 2000 years ago. 3. Jesus Christ never indicated in the context of that conversation that the death and resurrection of the individual were necessary so I am not certain why you feel the need to add that of your own. 4. You acquire a spirit when you become born-again. Again, only those who are alive can enter into the Kingdom of God. The dead cannot do that. 5. Indeed, as Jesus Christ explained in the context of[b] John 3 vs 1 - 21[/b], to become born again no be by mouth but by action. |
Re: Born Again, What Does It Mean? by Kobojunkie: 9:21pm On Apr 21, 2023 |
esere826:Man was born flesh and blood from his mother's womb. Jesus Christ told you this in His Gospel, affirming what God said in the beginning when He pointed out that man was made from the clay of this earth, not spirit - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7 5 Jesus answered, “Believe me when I say that everyone must be born from water and the Spirit. Anyone who is not born from water and the Spirit cannot enter God’s kingdom.You cannot ignore the detail given by Jesus Christ highlighted in blue above. To be born of the Spirit of the Eternal life of God is to be possessed by a power that wields control over your very being. |
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