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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by 68816419: 9:47pm On May 01, 2023
The only man that would dethrone Dangote

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Appisko: 10:27pm On May 01, 2023
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:29pm On May 01, 2023
Charley Im good cool cheesy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 1:08am On May 02, 2023
gallivant:
Confession time.. smiley

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obaaderemi2: 5:59am On May 02, 2023
AfriqueDuZuid:

Kenya's economy is very small, even with all the atrocious cooking it stubbornly remains small.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:37am On May 02, 2023
Nigeria economy if you use the real USD rate (750 Naira to USD) is half - about 200-250B - as I told you. Of course, you have Ghanian madness, where because Nigeria GDP is overcooked, you think everyone has cooked.

There are many ways to counter-check, validate and cross-reference data - and know what is cooked or not.

For example - Nigeria total banking asset is about twice Kenya (55-60B for kenya versus 100-110 for Nigeria) - Cement consumption about twice big (10M versus 20M)- name it. Check total telcom revenues from MTN, Glo, Airtel - compare to Safcom/Airtel/Telkom in kenya - about twice as big.

Conclusion - Nigeria real GDP is 200B - at best 250B.

South Africa or Egypt are real Africa giants - with 400B dollar economy - Nigeria is 3rd with 200-250B - followed by Algeria with 180-200B.
Kenya is 110-120B range.


Obaaderemi2:
Kenya's economy is very small, even with all the atrocious cooking it stubbornly remains small.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 8:57am On May 02, 2023
Unlike the criminally minded Nigerians and Ghanians - Kenya is going to leverage it well earned reputation as hardworking well educated law abiding global citizens to export labour.

Kenya will aim to send 250K workers to German. The Canada, US, UAE, Saudi and seven other countries.

President Ruto announced that during an upcoming visit by the Chancellor of Germany, one of the treaties to be signed will include an agreement to provide labour in the European nation.

He noted that similar agreements will be pursued for Canada, the United States, the U.A.E, Saudi Arabia and seven other nations. Adding that the revenue collected from Kenyans in the diaspora (over Sh400 Billion/year) surpasses revenue from tea exports.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:23am On May 02, 2023
rvp20182:
Nigeria economy if you use the real USD rate (750 Naira to USD) is half - about 200-250B - as I told you. Of course, you have Ghanian madness, where because Nigeria GDP is overcooked, you think everyone has cooked.

There are many ways to counter-check, validate and cross-reference data - and know what is cooked or not.

For example - Nigeria total banking asset is about twice Kenya (55-60B for kenya versus 100-110 for Nigeria) - Cement consumption about twice big (10M versus 20M)- name it. Check total telcom revenues from MTN, Glo, Airtel - compare to Safcom/Airtel/Telkom in kenya - about twice as big.

Conclusion - Nigeria real GDP is 200B - at best 250B.

South Africa or Egypt are real Africa giants - with 400B dollar economy - Nigeria is 3rd with 200-250B - followed by Algeria with 180-200B.
Kenya is 110-120B range.


This doesn't make sense. The wide gap between official and parallel market began properly during COVID-19 in 2020. Before then, Nigeria was still a 400-500 Billion dollar economy just like she was in 2015.

GDP doesn't automatically deplete with exchange rate depletion. It doesn't work that way.

If an economy is big, a deplete in dollar rate could sometimes also likely correspond to a measurable increase in the rate of the local currency.

For example, revenues we were making in dollars in 2015 is almost thesame as the revenues we are making now in dollars, but in naira we have quadrupled that revenue. Same thing with trade in naira. Everything eventually balances out.

There are losses we suffer from defending the official rate and a huge loss of foreign investors in our stocks and general market as well. If we unite the exchange rate or push it to 550 naira, we would stop defending the naira with millions of dollars from our foreign reserves every week and foreign investment climate would go back to 2019 levels. GDP stabilizes back to 500 Billion dollars.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:24am On May 02, 2023
rvp20182:
Unlike the criminally minded Nigerians and Ghanians - Kenya is going to leverage it well earned reputation as hardworking well educated law abiding global citizens to export labour.

Kenya will aim to send 250K workers to German. The Canada, US, UAE, Saudi and seven other countries.

President Ruto announced that during an upcoming visit by the Chancellor of Germany, one of the treaties to be signed will include an agreement to provide labour in the European nation.

He noted that similar agreements will be pursued for Canada, the United States, the U.A.E, Saudi Arabia and seven other nations. Adding that the revenue collected from Kenyans in the diaspora (over Sh400 Billion/year) surpasses revenue from tea exports.
Good luck sending slave labour to Germany like you do to the Arab world. 😂🤣
Your president is begging Germany to hand over it need for domestic workers to Kenya.

The best foreign workers in Tech, medicine, Engineering and etc are either Nigerians or Ghanaians.
When you ever enter Germany, you'll understand.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:26am On May 02, 2023
Freely float the Naira and you'll know the it's real value - and of course the nominal GDP of Nigeria.
The rest of the mumbo-jumbo you're writting dont make much sense.
As of now we know Naira is being artificially inflated - which artificially overstate the nominal GDP of Nigeria.

Again there are many ways to cross-validate or cross-reference Nigeria and Kenya GDP that shows Nigeria at best is 2. something bigger than kenya.

GeneralDae:

This doesn't make sense. The wide gap between official and parallel market began properly during COVID-19 in 2020. Before then, Nigeria was still a 400-500 Billion dollar economy just like it was in 2015.
GDP doesn't automatically deplete with exchange rate depletion. It doesn't work that way.

If an economy is big, a deplete in dollar rate could sometimes also likely correspond to a measurable increase in the rate of the local currency.

For example, revenues we were making in dollars in 2015 is almost thesame as the revenues we are making now in dollars, but in naira we have quadrupled that revenue. Same thing with trade in naira. Everything eventually balances out.

There are losses we suffer from the defending the official rate and a huge loss of foreign investors in our stocks and general market as well. If we unite the exchange rate or push it to 550 naira, we would stop defending the naira with millions of dollars from our foreign reserves and foreign investment climate would go back to 2019 levels. GDP stabilizes back to 500 Billion dollars.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:29am On May 02, 2023
rvp20182:
Freely float the Naira and you'll know the it's real value - and of course the nominal GDP of Nigeria.
The rest of the mumbo-jumbo you're writting dont make much sense.

As of now we know Naira is being artificially inflated - which artificially overstate the nominal GDP of Nigeria.

The reason we are not floating the naira is to continually control our foreign debt. If we remove fuel subsidy, even when we float the naira, it would fall back to around 550 naira which is the most likely real rate.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:32am On May 02, 2023
You don't have lots of foreign debt.
Last I checked Kenya had more foreign debt than Nigeria.

The real Naira rate is what black market rate is - 750 Naira to USD - that is where real market and supply forces of are.

You keep many windows of dollar rate - to provide bankster and dangotes opportunities to make money at expense of poor Nigeria.

A few connected importers/traders/banks - get buy dollars at subsidized rate - while rest of Nigeria who need money to pay schools fees, import stuff, pay medical expense - have to go backstreet - where they get dollar at twice the official rate.

I cannot think of any other reason not to freely float the Naira - except the Dangotes stranglehold of Nigeria economy.

The real value of Naira will be very close to the black market rate.


GeneralDae:

The reason we are not floating the naira is to continually control our foreign debt. If we remove fuel subsidy, even when we float the naira, it would fall back to around 550 naira which is the most likely real rate.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:37am On May 02, 2023
rvp20182:
Freely float the Naira and you'll know the it's real value - and of course the nominal GDP of Nigeria.
The rest of the mumbo-jumbo you're writting dont make much sense.
As of now we know Naira is being artificially inflated - which artificially overstate the nominal GDP of Nigeria.

Again there are many ways to cross-validate or cross-reference Nigeria and Kenya GDP that shows Nigeria at best is 2. something bigger than kenya.
Kenya with a total export of just 7.15 Billion dollars in 2021 ( with approx 50 million people in population) can't be just 2. something less than Nigeria in GDP. What's your total trade volume? Too small. Your food production? Abysmal.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 9:41am On May 02, 2023
Nigeria total imports is around 50B; Kenya total imports 20B; - 2021 seems to be 52B versus 22B.
Nigeria total exports (oil is 95% of it) is 47B; Kenya total export is 11B;
GeneralDae:

Kenya with a total export of just 7.15 Billion dollars in 2021 ( with approx 50 million in population) can't be just 2. something less than Nigeria in GDP. What's your total trade volume? Too small. Your food production? Abysmal.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:55am On May 02, 2023
rvp20182:
Nigeria total imports is around 50B; Kenya total imports 20B; - 2021 seems to be 52B versus 22B.
Nigeria total exports (oil is 95% of it) is 47B; Kenya total export is 11B;
This is not factual. Non oil export does an average of 20- 25%. In 2021, it was 22%.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by maidaboi(m): 10:09am On May 02, 2023
rvp20182:
Nigeria economy if you use the real USD rate (750 Naira to USD) is half - about 200-250B - as I told you. Of course, you have Ghanian madness, where because Nigeria GDP is overcooked, you think everyone has cooked.

There are many ways to counter-check, validate and cross-reference data - and know what is cooked or not.

For example - Nigeria total banking asset is about twice Kenya (55-60B for kenya versus 100-110 for Nigeria) - Cement consumption about twice big (10M versus 20M)- name it. Check total telcom revenues from MTN, Glo, Airtel - compare to Safcom/Airtel/Telkom in kenya - about twice as big.

Conclusion - Nigeria real GDP is 200B - at best 250B.

South Africa or Egypt are real Africa giants - with 400B dollar economy - Nigeria is 3rd with 200-250B - followed by Algeria with 180-200B.
Kenya is 110-120B range.


WOW what a bunch of nonsense
whatever makes you sleep at night

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 12:23pm On May 02, 2023
Mmhh - I doubt it. What do you export? Dont tell me ships and aicraft parts.
GeneralDae:

This is not factual. Non oil export does an average of 20- 25%. In 2021, it was 22%.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 12:24pm On May 02, 2023
Naira is overvalued - that overstate the nominal GDP - which is in USD. This is common sense 101.

Some economist think it's overvalued by 20%. I think it's close to 50%.

First indicator - is black market rate which is widely used in Nigeria and is the REAL exchange rate - official rate is 450 - black market rate is 750.

Then sweatheart USD rate for Nigeria Northern Business elite who have captured Abuja.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-18/naira-likely-to-be-devalued-by-20-in-2023-bank-of-america-says
maidaboi:
WOW what a bunch of nonsense
whatever makes you sleep at night

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 12:28pm On May 02, 2023
If Tinubu does the sensible thing of floating the Naira - which is now inevitable - you'll see it drop to 700 naira to usd.

https://businessday.ng/news/article/naira-seen-strengthening-to-n680-per-dollar-in-2023/
“In 2023, exchange rate adjustment is inevitable,” said Rewane in his monthly presentation for December 2022, titled, ‘An Odd Year that Feels Like a Leap Year’.

He said the exchange rate adjustment will narrow the gap between the Investors and Exporters (I&E) forex (I&E FX) and the parallel market.

The gap between the naira/dollar exchange rate at the official and parallel market of the foreign exchange has continued to widen due to demand pressure.

The naira closed at the rate of N743 per dollar at the parallel market on Monday, while at the official market, dollars was quoted unchanged at N461.67. This shows a gap of N281.33 per dollar between the two markets.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 12:31pm On May 02, 2023
Nairobi





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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Warl0ck: 12:38pm On May 02, 2023
West africa vs East africa. nice... grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Warl0ck: 12:38pm On May 02, 2023
68816419:
The only man that would dethrone Dangote
i dont get it.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 1:08pm On May 02, 2023
gallivant:
Nairobi





Why is this Bridge always empty? Since it was built it's been this way.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by maidaboi(m): 1:11pm On May 02, 2023
rvp20182:
Naira is overvalued - that overstate the nominal GDP - which is in USD. This is common sense 101.

Some economist think it's overvalued by 20%. I think it's close to 50%.

First indicator - is black market rate which is widely used in Nigeria and is the REAL exchange rate - official rate is 450 - black market rate is 750.

Then sweatheart USD rate for Nigeria Northern Business elite who have captured Abuja.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-18/naira-likely-to-be-devalued-by-20-in-2023-bank-of-america-says
if it is this easy I wonder why Kenya GDP is not up to 200
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:27pm On May 02, 2023
GeneralDae:

Why is this Bridge always empty? Since it was built it's been this way.
People can't pay to use 😂🤣

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:31pm On May 02, 2023
GeneralDae:

Why is this Bridge always empty? Since it was built it's been this way.

You want it jam packed like in Nigeria?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:31pm On May 02, 2023
Just40:
People can't pay to use 😂🤣

Born to kiss @ss.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:43pm On May 02, 2023
gallivant:


Born to kiss @ss.
Kiss Kenya ass? Impossible 😂

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 2:07pm On May 02, 2023
Just40:
Kiss Kenya ass? Impossible 😂

Nigerian @ss.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 4:57pm On May 02, 2023
Just40:
People can't pay to use 😂🤣
and u want to make heaven abi? Come make I see u.🤣🤣🤣

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 5:28pm On May 02, 2023
theenchanter:
and u want to make heaven abi? Come make I see u.🤣🤣🤣
😂🤣

Only the Truth can set you free, chaley

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Pkid1: 5:30pm On May 02, 2023
Government of Nigeria @NigeriaGov

Earlier today, President Muhammadu Buhari commissioned 748 Housing Units of Federal Housing Authority Estate in Zuba, Abuja.

The entire estate covers a total of 18.5 hectares of land area. In the course of executing the estate project, over 13,000 Nigerians were employed directly and indirectly.

President Muhammadu Buhari at the commissioning presented keys to some new homeowners at the Federal Housing Authority (FHA) Estate Zuba who subscribed through FHA Rent-to-Own delivery model, urging them to live together in peace and harmony.

Commending the Chairman, Managing Director, Members of the Board and Staff of FHA on the successful completion of the Estate, the President noted that the project was another testament of his administration’s commitment to lift people out of poverty.

In his address, Minister @FMWHNIG, Babatunde Fashola said "we now have 748 completed housing units for Nigerians and their families to shelter,’’ adding that 75 contractors were engaged in the course of the project.

The Managing Director of FHA, Senator Gbenga Ashafa, described the commissioning of the project as a manifestation of the visionary and deliberate housing policy of the President, who in keeping with the promise of providing shelter to Nigerians approved the grant to FHA.

Ashafa disclosed that the Authority has also commenced the development of Bwari Estate, Abuja near the Nigeria Law School, which will deliver 336 units of various houses under the first phase of the project.

https://twitter.com/NigeriaGov/status/1653424401201745920

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