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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:46am On May 05, 2023
andrew444:


Won’t lie I feel for koulibally

Let me say he was just unlucky

I agree with you on this

Him and hamsik

That short devil should cry tears in his pillow every night..I don even forget him name sef

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:47am On May 05, 2023
Ppogbae:
Messi will leave PSG soon. I'd rather have Osimhen return to France than go to Mumu U

He won’t go to Man U

He should stay at Napoli if it’s not Bayern who needs a striker
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:48am On May 05, 2023
Blueelf:


I agree with you on this

Him and hamsik

That short devil should cry tears in his pillow every night..I don even forget him name sef

Insigne ?

He also deserves this ,he is a legend ,mertens also

But this is football
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 9:08am On May 05, 2023
orriyomi33:
What the likes of Koulibaly couldn't Min Jae did..
this life is funny sha. I remember a season when Napoli got up to 91 points still they couldn't win the league yet look at the amount of points they used to win this league. This life no balance at all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:52am On May 05, 2023

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:07pm On May 05, 2023
Insigne could be annoying with his selfishness but he paid his dues with Napoli. Men many great players have played for the Neapolitans sha. Zola, Higuan, Cavani even coached by the great Ancelotti and still only won a league title this year crazy! Feel for Koulibaly too.

Blueelf:


I agree with you on this

Him and hamsik

That short devil should cry tears in his pillow every night..I don even forget him name sef
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 12:10pm On May 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
He didn't but he got the WC ticket and moulded a team capable of not only playing beautiful but finishing up chances. Plus they had decent benches and made the right tactical subs.

Same way Manu didn't with Amunike & Ugbade as his assistants in 2013 but also got the WC ticket and gave us a team that still stands historical till date.

The bottomline: Both sets went on to win the WC coz they improved on what they showed at the Afcon and the qualifiers.

Now, a deeper angle...

Manu did it with Amunike and Ugbade as assistants. They won it together in 2013.

Amunike did it on his own with a separate assistant in 2015 and WON!!!

Manu had the chance on his own in 2019 and FAILED at the WC.

Now Ugbade has his chance on his own in 2023 and started very well at the WafuB but he hasn't been able to raise a midfield as good as what we saw at the WafuB and the team is suffering dearly for it at thus Afcon. Time will tell on Ugbade to see if he matches Amunike or like Manu fails when when they all went alone.


Manu is still the bigger achiever here, you forgot he led the team to the under 20 AFCON trophy where he beat Senegal at their backyard in the final. His under 20 team also won the super six, where they played top 6 finishing sides in the Nigerian local league. Infact the local league teams Manu conquered with his boys were much stronger than now. I remember before then the likes of Kano Pillars and Shooting stars playing in the semifinals of CAF CL, I remember that was a league that had the likes of Gambo, Ali , Oboabona, Ejuke, Sunday Mba all these guys played in the national team between that period. I'm talking about 2013-2015. Although the under 20 team did not face this players but it tells u how healthy and robust the league system was at that point and to have lost to an Awoniyi led team in the absence of then Manchester city iheancho, and Isaac success was fantastic.

When Manu won in 2013 what was the experience level of his assistant managers. I'm not trying to downplay anyone's team effort here. But I believe that by result Manu still has a better record.

Amunike couldn't beat Sudan. I read people come here to defend him for that with all manner of conspiracy about the NFF administration sabotaging him. I mean like really, if that's the case all Nigerian local managers can use that as an excuse for failure. The truth is system change everyday. And performance are open to see for all to judge

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 12:21pm On May 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
And we all know why Amunike's U20 didn't qualify. The one match they lost in over 20 games including both Qualifiers and friendlies was against Sudan thanks to the incompetence of the NFF. So rest on that issue you keep bringing up time and again as if you are ignorant of the truth.


These are not issues for justification, I mean there are real bigger problem than this excuses .Siasia's under 23 dream team were camped in the USA and had less than 24 hours to land in Brazil to play their Olympics opening game against Japan and they won. Not just that they ended up finishing with the bronze medal. So we can go on and on about our maladministration but to seek justification for failure for it is not what I will accept. You see it already before taking the job, you know how it is ,if you succeed we shall sing your praise, but if u fail we shall equally remember to recall how you made our heart hurt 🤕 so deal with it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 12:21pm On May 05, 2023
PSG front 3 might be like this next season

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:48pm On May 05, 2023
Which Ejuke do you refer to? Chidera Ejuke in the NPFL? Naaah. You got it mixed up.

Also, Sunday MBA left the league after the Afcon Success in 2013 under Keshi. He was not in the league in 2015.

Anyway, Manu's U20 Afcon success is noted but that team had the best of preparations and attention unlike what Amunike's U20 side endured prior to Sudan. I recall the Super six tournament they won in Abuja and the players available to Manu. I recall how meticulous and sound their preps were. That team had my attention because of how sound they were in dispatching solid NPFL sides and also being held by a Siasia-led U23 team to a 2-2 draw.
They also had my attention because of a lot of the lads were from the U17 2013 side (Qualifiers to WC).

At the U20 Afcon in 2015, Manu had Obinna Nwobodo of Rangers and Taiwo Awoniyi, Bernard Bulbwa, Ifeanyi Matthew, Zaharadeen Bello, Chidera Eze, Akinjide Idowu, Ibrahim Abubakar Abdullahi, etc (all talents who also came from the 2013 U17 side - some didn't make the 2013 WC side but were parts of the team from the beginning). A solid prepared side.


But don't forget that this same Manu Garba went to the U20 World cup that same year in 2015 and literally sabotaged his own team. He kept Iheanacho, Success, Musa Yahaya and more on the bench after that first Brazil game. We went on to crash out lamely in the round of 16 to an Akpoguma-led Germany despite the wealth of attacking and creative talent we had on the bloody bench.

I will never forget that 2015 WC debacle. Manu Garba made very silly decisions that cost us a possible good run with one of the best assembled U20 sides we have had in recent years. I recall I joined Nairaland that same year so I will never ever forget Manu's Sins. Since then, he had been rubbish to be Frank. Reason why in 2019, he flopped again at the World stage with another Nigerian youth side, the U17s this time of Amoo, Tijani, Said and co after navigating the qualifiers.


And you are talking down on the assistant managers' contributions in 2013. Amunike in 2013 was already a rising youth coach who led an academy side to Title success at the Iber Tournament in Estoril, Portugal.

Also, at the time he joined the U17 team to UAE, he was also rounding off a phase of his Uefa Pro licence course. This was before the U17 World Cup in 2013. He was already part of the crew but was also wrapping up his coaching qualification course.

Nduka Ugbade, in 2013, also was a noted youth coach and scout with eyes for talents based in Nigeria and was said to have had a big hand in discovering and identifying Wilfred Ndidi for the U17 National team.

So you see, the crew in 2013 was quite a talented and potentially good one plus the fact that Manu Garba himself had been assistant to the Late Yemi Tella who led us to U17 WC Glory in 2007 albeit in the Non-MRI era.



And yes, Amunike couldn't beat Sudan but like I already emphasised. He didn't get close to the best of attention and preparations that the Manu Garba-led U20 side in 2015 enjoyed. This is what sabotaged that one game for the Amunike-led U20s in 2017. A huge dent it was as I was certain that team would win us another U20 Afcon.


And it is not as if all coaches didn't have to work with NFF Incompetence at several points and still thrive. Even Amunike worked with some of it as U17 and U20 coach. He still won the U17 WC and finished 4th at the U17 Afcon while grooming Osimhen as top scorer in both tournaments.

Even Keshi worked with NFF brouhaha and still navigated the Super Eagles to Afcon glory in 2013.

The point here is... the incompetence and sabotage finally got us to really mess up this one game vs Sudan under Amunike.

All through his reign as U20 coach, he never lost a game be it in friendlies or competitive fixtures. He won games home and away. But when it came to that one game in Lagos, the NFF incompetence struck to such high level that it came crashing down on the team's efforts to wrap up a ticket.

Remember this same Amunike led the team to an away win in Sudan. So that tells how much negative psychological impact the NFF mistakes had on Amunike's U20 prep for the important 2nd leg.

The NFF failed the team and the team crashed. Finito.



M7even:


Manu is still the bigger achiever here, you forgot he led the team to the under 20 AFCON trophy where he beat Senegal at their backyard in the final. His under 20 team also won the super six, where the played to finishing sides in the Nigerian local league. Infact the league team Manu conquered with his boys were much stronger than now. I remember before then the likes of Kano Pillars and Shooting stars playing in the semifinals of CAF CL, I remember that was a league that had the likes of Gambo, Ali , Oboabona, Ejuke, Sunday Mba all these guys played in the national team between that period. I'm talking about 2013-2015. Although the under 20 team did not face this players but it tells u how healthy and robust the league system was at that point and to have lost to an Awoniyi led team was fantastic.

When Manu won in 2013 what was the experience level of his assistant managers. I'm not trying to downplay anyone's team effort here. But I believe that by result Manu still has a better record.

Amunike couldn't beat Sudan. I read people come here to defend him for that with all manner of conspiracy about the NFF administration sabotaging him. I mean like really, if that's the case all Nigerian local managers can use that as an excuse for failure. The truth is system change everyday. And performance are open to see for all to judge

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:54pm On May 05, 2023
There are more than enough issues for justification. You obviously haven't been in a situation where someone deliberately sabotages your efforts and despite your very best to thrive on, the damage just still took enough root and you couldn't do a thing to win.

Siasia's U23 team had the luxury of playing 3 games to right any wrongs from the first game. Amunike's U20 team didn't have 3 games. He had only one game to confirm a ticket and it was blown thanks to the NFF's gross incompetence.


And you say deal with it..... same way we also have to deal with the memories of Manu Garba's mishandling of the finest assemblage of U20 talents we have had since 2005 at the 2015 U20 WC. And he did that nonsense despite having the NFF support unlike what Amunike got at U20 level for the Sudan game especially.

So bros... don't downplay the adverse effects of the NFF administration virus for it has caused us many chances of bigger progress in our football. Look at the U23 under Salisu in recent times and see how the NFF allowed such rubbish. They supported a man who settled for mediocritic approaches yet sabotaged a man who was out for the best for our pleasure at U20. The Incompetence Virus of the NFF stings.


M7even:


These are not issues for justification, I mean there are real bigger problem than this excuses .Siasia's under 23 dream team were camped in the USA and had less than 24 hours to land in Brazil to play their Olympics opening game against Japan and they won. Not just that they ended up finishing with the bronze medal. So we can go on and on about our maladministration but to seek justification for failure for it is not what I will accept. You see it already before taking the job, you know how it is ,if you succeed we shall sing your praise, but if u fail we shall equally remember to recall how you made our heart hurt 🤕 so deal with it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Setaleonoz(m): 1:10pm On May 05, 2023
Blueelf:


I agree with you on this

Him and hamsik

That short devil should cry tears in his pillow every night..I don even forget him name sef
Isigne grin with isigne ,Napoli would have bottled the league title
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:10pm On May 05, 2023
Victor Osimhen broke his mask during Scudetto celebrations but says he has more so not bothered.

Lol... Lad is going really hard in Celebrating his first Major Senior Title. And overall, his 3rd title adding both Youth and Senior Careers.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Setaleonoz(m): 1:12pm On May 05, 2023
Samueltemi337:
PSG front 3 might be like this next season
Which salah

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:14pm On May 05, 2023
Osimhen: No one has a better goal ratio in Europe's Top 5 leagues except the Goals Machine himself, Haaland

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 1:23pm On May 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Victor Osimhen broke his mask during Scudetto celebrations but says he has more so not bothered.

Lol... Lad is going really hard in Celebrating his first Major Senior Title. And overall, his 3rd title adding both Youth and Senior Careers.
3rd? U17 wc, serie a and which trophy??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:32pm On May 05, 2023
U17 World Cup in 2015, U23 Afcon in 2015 and now Serie A title in 2023. 😎

Amedino99:
3rd? U17 wc, serie a and which trophy??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:53pm On May 05, 2023
Kwashiman:
Unpopular opinion: Okereke is a better player than Osimhen, just lacks that luck of playing for top clubs.
Luck una
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:24pm On May 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Victor Osimhen broke his mask during Scudetto celebrations but says he has more so not bothered.

Lol... Lad is going really hard in Celebrating his first Major Senior Title. And overall, his 3rd title adding both Youth and Senior Careers.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:29pm On May 05, 2023
Nope. Lille sat in 4th place in the 2019/20 season when the league was stopped with 10 games to play.

He was never gonna win the Ligue 1 in 19/20. PSG were outright leaders that season.

jihday:
if not for covid this should have been his second league title, remember Lille were league leaders before the season was forcefully stopped

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 3:09pm On May 05, 2023
jihday:
if not for covid this should have been his second league title, remember Lille were league leaders before the season was forcefully stopped
I think it was the following season that lille won the league and he was already in Napoli by then .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ersonleads(m): 4:21pm On May 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Osimhen: No one has a better goal ratio in Europe's Top 5 leagues except the Goals Machine himself, Haaland
All this people shouting haaland up & down like he's a demi God should know that haaland has a good midfield that feeds him & aren't selfish. They should stop using the guy to down play other strikers. Cos if lewandoski dey that mancity team, he go too score even our own osimhen would score 30 plus goals as well.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Setaleonoz(m): 5:08pm On May 05, 2023
To the pity crew ….Remember losc lille won ligue 1 after osimhen left

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eddie7: 5:10pm On May 05, 2023
ersonleads:
All this people shouting haaland up & down like he's a demi God should know that haaland has a good midfield that feeds him & aren't selfish. They should stop using the guy to down play other strikers. Cos if lewandoski dey that mancity team, he go too score even our own osimhen would score 30 plus goals as well.

I quite agree with your submission. Come to think of it, remove all the tap-in goals Haaland scored and let's see how many goals left on his table grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:34pm On May 05, 2023
U23 Afcon Draws is done

Nigeria not there ofcos no thanks to Salisu and the NFF selection nonsense.

Guinea, conquerors of Nigeria U23 are in Group A.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bennie1980(m): 5:56pm On May 05, 2023
cry
TheSuperNerd:
U23 Afcon Draws is done
What is the outcome of NFF protest against Guinea
Nigeria not there ofcos no thanks to Salisu and the NFF selection nonsense.

Guinea, conquerors of Nigeria U23 are in Group A.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eddie7: 6:40pm On May 05, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
U23 Afcon Draws is done

Nigeria not there ofcos no thanks to Salisu and the NFF selection nonsense.

Guinea, conquerors of Nigeria U23 are in Group A.

I saw Nigeria in D grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:41pm On May 05, 2023
Osimhen in the Top 5 for Most G+A Involvements across Europe's Top 5 Leagues...so far

28 players have been directly involved in 20+ league goals in Europe's top five divisions this season:

42 - Erling Haaland

30 - Lionel Messi

28 - Harry Kane

27 - Kylian Mbappé

26 - Victor Osimhen

25 - Robert Lewandowski, Antoine Griezmann, Mohamed Salah

24 - Neymar, Bukayo Saka, Ivan Toney

23 - Wissam Ben Yedder, Randal Kolo Muani, Kevin De Bruyne, Lautaro Martínez

22 - Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Alexandre Lacazette, Jonathan David

21 - Loïs Openda, Boulaye Dia, Niclas Füllkrug, Marcus Rashford, Martin Ødegaard

20 - Karim Benzema, Jamal Musiala, Folarin Balogun, Gabriel Martinelli, Ollie Watkins

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 7:14pm On May 05, 2023
[quote author=TheSuperNerd post=122952694]Osimhen in the Top 5 for Most G+A Involvements across Europe's Top 5 Leagues...so far

28 players have been directly involved in 20+ league goals in Europe's top five divisions this season:

42 - Erling Haaland

30 - Lionel Messi

28 - Harry Kane

27 - Kylian Mbappé

26 - Victor Osimhen

25 - Robert Lewandowski, Antoine Griezmann, Mohamed Salah

24 - Neymar, Bukayo Saka, Ivan Toney

23 - Wissam Ben Yedder, Randal Kolo Muani, Kevin De Bruyne, Lautaro Martínez

22 - Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Alexandre Lacazette, Jonathan David

21 - Loïs Openda, Boulaye Dia, Niclas Füllkrug, Marcus Rashford, Martin Ødegaard

20 - Karim Benzema, Jamal Musiala, Folarin Balogun, Gabriel Martinelli, Ollie Watkins



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Be like one name dey miss??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:35pm On May 05, 2023
Nice one Osimhen

Don't be in a hurry to leave just yet. If needs me, stay 1 more season
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 7:48pm On May 05, 2023
Kwashiman:
Unpopular opinion: Okereke is a better player than Osimhen, just lacks that luck of playing for top clubs.

Broda abeg make you dey fear God.

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