Dencotext:
Hi all,

After many years, God's favorite pikin is in the forum once more to give you guys a little advice.

Well I am in Italy now. If you are going to do your master, and moreover if you are sponsoring yourself, then you do not need to attach any birth certificate from NPC... that was my case. I know my rights so when the (African lady) staff from Italian consular office in Abuja called me on phone asking that I must also bring my birth certificate, I made sure she understood that it did not apply to me... she should go and ask her consular officer... who when he came on the phone told her (after asking me some questions) that it is not applicable to people in my category.

Why is it applicable and when is it not applicable? Although you could choose to do it anyway if you want even when it is not applicable.

If you are being sponsored by your family (you know a thirdparty sponsorship is not allowed) then it is a must that you should attach your birth certificate, even if you are going to do your master degree.

I once worked online with a university and we review docs coming in from allover the world, so I have a firsthand knowledge on how documentation verification exercise is carried out in general, it is not magical... the last person I counseled was a girl who was denied visa here at the Italian embassy in Lagos and she contacted me. By the time I reviewed how she packaged the visa that was denied, and pointed out the mistakes made and how to correct them, she repackaged the visa application as instructed and today she is in Italy. The funny thing is that no two person case that are denied visa may be exactly identical, because our packages are reviewed based on the categories we fit in, but basically there is two major categories which we could be placed
1. whether you are sponsoring yourself
2. or whether another person is sponsoring you
Any one of these two methods greatly change the way your application for student visa would be reviewed. The greatest example being the use of birth certificate not being necessary for those sponsoring themselves (even if you are not going to do a master degree). But becomes absolutely necessary for those who someone else may be sponsoring them, because the names of the one who is supposed to be your parent is stated on the birth certificate and it gives the reviewing officer facts that the person sponsoring you is your father or mother if it corresponds with name on the birth certificate. If it does not, and an uncle or brother is sponsoring you, the birth certificate incriminates you, so you have to attach court declaration of guardian/sponsorship and also prove of the family connection that exist between you and that member. If you fail to add extra documents apart from the court declaration, to prove the family connections, the visa reviewer may be unable to prove that they are your relatives, and so the person would be considered to be a thirdparty. And your visa application would be denied.

In the case of this girl that was denied visa, she was almost screaming at me on the phone that it was indeed her father who was sponsoring her (actually the person was by law her step father, because the mother remarried after the death of her father). But I made her understand how blind her argument was because the visa office would not know this fact, unless your father's name on the birth certificate matches your step father's name, but as it is, they are different. So no matter the court declaration that he is your guardian, it would not make sense. The visa office can only accept family sponsorship, which is a bit different from someone undertaking to sponsor you, that is why guardianship is highly suspicious. So I will add the third category
3. the trickish issue of guardianship

For a guardian to qualify as family and not a thirdparty, you must attach extra documents. There must be a legal or court declaration of sponsorship, and the second document should tackle the motive why they are sponsoring... like the fact they are (1) your husband (2) adopted parents (3) step father (4) relatives or brethren... outside these, someone with no family or legal tie is automatically a thirdparty. And again, each of these subcategories comes with some challenges to prove them. I will only single out two for explanations.... THE CASE OF A STEP FATHER AND THE CASE OF HUSBAND.

Having processed documents for my online university, we can only accept the name change of ladies that got married if they also attach their marriage certificate to explain why their academic documents bears a different surname from their current passport or ID. In that case, no need for court affidavit for name change, because marriage is a legal institution covered by the certificate.

In the case of a step father, as I had to think for some hours or days before I counseled that girl, the process of reviewing is about how legal and convincing your documents are. It made the greatest sense to me, who was well trained to review documents coming into my university from allover the world, that a step father proof can be proven systematically by including the following documents.... a) your birth certificate, which has your late father's name, and mother's name on it (that would be sufficient and more satisfactory than attaching their marriage certificate) b) the death certificate of your late father, c) the new marriage certificate of your mother to your step father d) a commitment letter of sponsorship from the court.... because in truth a step father, who did not born you, is not legally mandated to be your sponsor if they choose not to, so they must commit themselves legally to be considered your custodian. When this girl followed this series of inexplicable steps which I recommended for her, and presented all these documents, along with a letter of apology acknowledging that she realized why she was denied visa based on that fact.... she was granted the visa. She complained that the period to appeal has passed, but I kept reminding her that the visa application was not supposed to interfere with people's destiny if they meet the requirement...so if your university gives you admission, you can still arrive anytime during the first semester which last for about 4 to 6 months.

Hi Decontext.
I used my maiden name in my passport cos my NIN refused to change to my husband's name despite many trial and visits to NIN headquarters. So I applied to a university and with my maiden name and I've been given admission.

My problem now is my son's birth certificate that was issued in 2018 when he was born carries my married name as the mother's name and this would be different from my maiden name when I need to prove that I'm his mother. How do correct or explain this? Should I do another date of birth for him?
Please note that I have marraige certificate and news paper publication for change of name (to my husband's name)

What do you advice?

Why not apply to some schools without application fees?

Solanacea:

Yes, am aware
It's really pathetic, can't even pay any application fee and I have two more schools in mind and I am stuck at that stage but contacted someone today still waiting for his response

Egwuleke:
Why not apply to some schools without application fees?

Its past their deadline already
Which do u suggest,?
Names of schools so I could check if my course is english taught

Check university of Messina because thier application should be on till early June.

Solanacea:

Its past their deadline already
Which do u suggest,?
Names of schools so I could check if my course is english taught

Egwuleke:
Check university of Messina because thier application should be on till early June.

My course is in italian language, d others have closed for d year. The other two left ain't opening till june end and that's abit late. I applied to bologna two weeks ago but I don't know how long it takes to hear from them. Don't what would take so much time. June end is too late

Solanacea:

Its past their deadline already
Which do u suggest,?
Names of schools so I could check if my course is english taught

Sapienza University and University of Pisa.Free application and most courses taught in English. Application still open

samtol4:
Sapienza University and University of Pisa.Free application and most courses taught in English. Application still open

I have checked all of them out but unfortunately, my course aren't there. Just bologna, camerino,for salerno it's past d deadline for my course, two others ain't opening till june, d rest requires app fee.

ballow5:
Hello everyone, Please i am applying to Politecnico di Milano second call and I am at the application fee payments, does anyone knows how to make application payment to an Italian university.

Or can my Mastercard do the payment, I no wan hang abeg oooo

Gooday Brother,
Did you receive a positive response from Politecnico?

Please my passport would expire on 24th of April 2024. And I just applied for admission to a school in Italy which I am yet to know the outcome. Please would this expiry date on my passport hinder the embassy from granting me visa? As I hear people say, your passport must have 18 months valdity beyond the expiry date of the expected trip.

Please help me figure this out !!!

Pls Are there student jobs in camerino?

Zulu1990:
Please my passport would expire on 24th of April 2024. And I just applied for admission to a school in Italy which I am yet to know the outcome. Please would this expiry date on my passport hinder the embassy from granting me visa? As I hear people say, your passport must have 18 months valdity beyond the expiry date of the expected trip.

Please help me figure this out !!!

Mine is expiring in Feb but I will suggest u look for a way to renew it

Solanacea:

Mine is expiring in Feb but I will suggest u look for a way to renew it

Well said @Solanacea
You will need to go to Abuja to cancel the one you have and get another one.
I was in this situation about 10 years ago.
Get ready to spend money!

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fOFT:

Well said @Solanacea
You will need to go to Abuja to cancel the one you have and get another one.
I was in this situation about 10 years ago.
Get ready to spend money!

Are you still in italy ?

Solanacea:
Pls Are there student jobs in camerino?

Are u finally settling for Camerino?
Have u started the Statement of Comparability and Verification process?

Moving4:

Are u finally settling for Camerino?
Have u started the Statement of Comparability and Verification process?

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Not yet, still waiting till on the 20th of this month, if no admission comes in den I will need to preenrol with camerino. I heard that camerino is a small town and there are no student jobs der.

Solanacea:
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Not yet, still waiting till on the 20th of this month, if no admission comes in den I will need to preenrol with camerino. I heard that camerino is a small town and there are no student jobs der.

Oh really? No much jobs?
I my case I didn't know one can only pre enroll in only 1 school, I already preenrol b4 I heard it. If I have another admission I'll have to ask Dem to remove me from their preenrolment list. Dat their Verification process is too tidious for me, cos you'll still have to go to ur school to send ur certificate & transcript to CIMEA after paying d €215. If after paying I expect Dem to do verification from d school themselves & not asking for hard copies again, so what is their Workin d process?

Moving4:

Oh really? No much jobs?
I my case I didn't know one can only pre enroll in only 1 school, I already preenrol b4 I heard it. If I have another admission I'll have to ask Dem to remove me from their preenrolment list. Dat their Verification process is too tidious for me, cos you'll still have to go to ur school to send ur certificate & transcript to CIMEA after paying d €215. If after paying I expect Dem to do verification from d school themselves & not asking for hard copies again, so what is their Workin d process?

Yes, u can only preenrol to a school and that's y I haven't done any because I don't know if one can change it after prenrolment. As for d cimea, it's just too expensive, I read everything and that's y I didn't continue, I would rather prenrol with a school that accept either cimea or dov. How can u pay €215 and still go to your school to sent those documents and u know how nigeria university process works. It's quite discouraging

Solanacea:

Are you still in italy ?

Si, certo

Solanacea:

Yes, u can only preenrol to a school and that's y I haven't done any because I don't know if one can change it after prenrolment. As for d cimea, it's just too expensive, I read everything and that's y I didn't continue, I would rather prenrol with a school that accept either cimea or dov. How can u pay €215 and still go to your school to sent those documents and u know how nigeria university process works. It's quite discouraging

Very discouraging o, I was too forward with d preenrolment as I had no knowledge dat it's only 1 school one can be able to preenrol at a time but I hope they will be able to remove me when I get another admission.
Someone will pay dat amount & still send hard copies again, so what are they verifying? They should have just asked that the school send d documents directly to them for verification without dat amount.

fOFT:


Si, certo

Oh!
City u live?
How is italy in general?