anthonyuncle:
■commit suicide 1st

1. Why? Because you are afraid to die?

Kobojunkiee:
1. Why? Because you are afraid to die?

because you argue the result of it

anthonyuncle:
because you argue the result of it

I condemned your use of scripture to propagate your lies means I argue the result of suicide. Are you OK at all?

Kobojunkiee:
If unbeliever
→then the rule is, "From dust, you came and to dust you shall return" -Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22
else
if born-again
→then the rule is you sleep in the grave until the time of the resurrection and then judgment - John 5 vs 19 - 29

So for those that go to hell, what actually burn in hell, is it their bodies that have turned to dust or what?

Michael547:
■ So for those that go to hell, what actually burn in hell, is it their bodies that have turned to dust or what?

Haven't you and I already been around this rollercoaster before now where I showed you that we will all become like Jesus Christ who did not decay in the grave but rose from the grave body intact and without decay, eventually to ascend into the Kingdom of God, flesh and all?

Kobojunkiee:
Haven't you and I already been around this rollercoaster before now where I showed you that we will all become like Jesus Christ who did not decay in the grave but rose from the grave body intact and without decay, eventually to ascend into the Kingdom of God, flesh and all?

So for those that go to hell, what part of their body burns there?

Michael547:
■ So for those that go to hell, what part of their body burns there?

1. What parts of the body enjoy the rewards of Heaven for those who end up in Heaven?

Kobojunkiee:
1. What parts of the body enjoy the rewards of Heaven for those who end up in Heaven?

I don't know....you can tell me

Michael547:
I don't know....you can tell me

Scripture clearly indicates it would be the same body we all have.

Kobojunkiee:
Scripture clearly indicates it would be the same body we all have.

So is that the same body that those in hell will burn with?

Michael547:
■So is that the same body that those in hell will burn with?

Jesus Christ clearly didn't have a talk with His followers about giving them a different body from the one they had going into the Kingdom of God when they became born-again so I am not sure why this is even an issue, to begin with.

Kobojunkiee:
Jesus Christ clearly didn't have a talk with His followers about giving them a different body from the one they had going into the Kingdom of God when they became born-again so I am not sure why this is even an issue, to begin with.

So God blesses people with a spiritual body just to go and burn eternally forever?

Michael547:
So God blesses people with a spiritual body just to go and burn eternally forever?

Is there some sort of rule in scripture that says God can't do what God said in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 that He would do?

Kobojunkiee:
Is there some sort of rule in scripture that says God can't do what God said in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 that He would do?

So why would God resurrect some people to burn them forever and allow some to remain dust?
And those who are burnt are supposedly those in his kingdom?

Michael547:
■So why would God resurrect some people to burn them forever and allow some to remain dust?
And those who are burnt are supposedly those in his kingdom?

The more important question here is why do you think God can't or shouldn't do what He made clear He would do? Since you obviously doubt Him in this. You don't accept His Truth in this and as such it is not God that is the problem here but you having an opinion that stands against what God says.

The goats in the Kingdom of God could have easily chosen to simply perish in the grave along with the rest of mankind if eternity was not a lure for them, so it was not that God forced them into this pact with His person. And this pact has it that anyone who continues in sin even after being granted access into the eternal Kingdom —the Kingdom of God, — this after being redeemed from the curse of Sin aka Death, would face eternal damnation in the kingdom of God. This was the agreement from the beginning. If you don't like it, you don't have to opt-in at all.

sonmvayina:
So what is the story..

You know it, if not you won't talk about it

Don't you believe God sent jesus to die?

But you claimed it's SUICIDE

so your question should be: Do you believe God sent Jesus to commit suicide?

Sound like something Allah will do...

Well you said it!

Kobojunkiee:
The more important question here is why do you think God can't or shouldn't do what He made clear He would do? Since you obviously doubt Him in this. You don't accept His Truth in this and as such it is not God that is the problem here but you having an opinion that stands against what God says.

The goats in the Kingdom of God could have easily chosen to simply perish in the grave along with the rest of mankind if eternity was not a lure for them, so it was not that God forced them into this pact with His person. And this pact has it that anyone who continues in sin even after being granted access into the eternal Kingdom —the Kingdom of God, — this after being redeemed from the curse of Sin aka Death, would face eternal damnation in the kingdom of God. This was the agreement from the beginning. If you don't like it, you don't have to opt-in at all.

So once one becomes born again, he has no other option than to live forever?

Michael547:
■ So once one becomes born again, he has no other option than to live forever?

1. Have you never read the fine print of what it is you claim to believe in? The agreement is an eternal covenant made between God and you - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 - and once you are in it there is no way out for eternity.

Kobojunkiee:
1. Have you never read the fine print of what it is you claim to believe in? The agreement is an eternal covenant made between God and you - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30 - and once you are in it there is no way out for eternity.

So God made a Covenant with people to burn them forever but to release those who did not even make a Covenant with him at all?

Michael547:
So God made a Covenant with people to burn them forever but to release those who did not even make a Covenant with him at all?

If you wish to word it that way, sure.

Kobojunkiee:
If you wish to word it that way, sure.

Ok good....so from your explanation, it is better not to even be in a relationship with God. Otherwise one would burn forever.

Michael547:
■Ok good....so from your explanation, it is better not to even be in a relationship with God. Otherwise one would burn forever.

1. Ding dong!

It is better not to sign up for the contract at all if you aren't going to absolutely commit to the terms of the agreement. Jesus Christ made this abundantly clear in His Gospel by the way.

Kobojunkiee:
1. Ding dong!

It is better not to sign up for the contract at all if you aren't going to absolutely commit to the terms of the agreement. Jesus Christ made this abundantly clear in His Gospel by the way.

So where did Jesus teach that? Let's examine it

Michael547:

So where did Jesus teach that? Let's examine it

Start with Luke 14 vs 25 - 33

Kobojunkiee:
Start with Luke 14 vs 25 - 33

Ok so what's the point

Michael547:
Ok so what's the point

What do you mean what is the point? You asked

Michael547:

So where did Jesus teach that? Let's examine it

Kobojunkiee:
What do you mean what is the point? You asked

What was Jesus teaching?

Michael547:
What was Jesus teaching?

You don't like to read it for yourself or what?

Anyways, It is found in Luke 14 vs 25 - 33. Also, take a look at Luke 9 vs 57 - 62 as well as Matthew 10 vs 34 - 39, among other places. Jesus Christ discouraged all those unwilling to fully commit to the terms and conditions of the Covenant/Agreement/Contract from becoming His followers.

Kobojunkiee:
You don't like to read it for yourself or what?

Anyways, It is found in Luke 14 vs 25 - 33. Also, take a look at Luke 9 vs 57 - 62 as well as Matthew 10 vs 34 - 39, among other places. Jesus Christ discouraged all those unwilling to fully commit to the terms and conditions of the Covenant/Agreement/Contract from becoming His followers.

Ok where did Jesus teach that those who commit themselves would burn forever, whereas those who did not commit at all would just turn to dust?

Michael547:
■Ok where did Jesus teach that those who commit themselves would burn forever, whereas those who did not commit at all would just turn to dust?

1. Are you asking me where it is written that all those sinners who are called were previously condemned to perish in the grave by God? If yes, you can begin with John 3 vs 1 - 21 & Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22

As for where Jesus Christ made clear that the goats in the Kingdom of God will be subject to eternal damnation, well, Jesus Christ revealed this both by way of Parable - Matthew 13 vs 36 to 43 - and in clear speak in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46.

Kobojunkiee:
I condemned your use of scripture to propagate your lies means I argue the result of suicide. Are you OK at all?

i condemn your forceful imposure of your own personal myths on people.

you are not ok.

anthonyuncle:
i condemn your forceful imposure of your own personal myths on people. you are not ok.

Revealing your attempt to use scripture for your lie is tantamount to forcing my personal myth on you. You folks never cease to amaze!