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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 12:49pm On May 09, 2023 |
airmark: Popi too like arguments. He’s very adamant |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 12:51pm On May 09, 2023 |
nateevs: We don argue this thing taya with Popi. E no wan gree |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 12:55pm On May 09, 2023 |
pkasso: By 2003, Henry had established himself as an accomplished striker who could also provide assists for his team. He was renowned across the globe and carried Arsenal. If the Ballon D’Or was truly about the performance of players during a calendar year, then it is a shame and travesty that Henry did not win any because he had the stats to back him up. Nedved’s performance in the semi-final against Madrid was what some of the voters used to award Nedved which still infuriates me, outside of the fact that he is a Bianconeri. A team renowned for its corruption!! I have a strong belief that the awards were greatly influenced by Italian journalists who campaigned heavily for players in the Serie A. His loss to Nedved was more painful than the loss to Shevchenko whom I still revere considering his exploits with my Milan. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 3:07pm On May 09, 2023 |
Ibime:Sheva did make the final shortlist for WPOTY in '04 finishing behind Henry and Dinho. So he was definitely a force to be reckoned with. I wasn't referring to only the Ballon d'or in my argument, the WPOTY included. Henry was a notorious big game choker and what one could call a local champion. He couldn't replicate his PL form on the European stage and with France when on international duty. And let's not kid ourselves, the PL of the early 2000's wasn't half as competitive as it is today so his stats, while impressive are only par for the course. Think Lewy banging in goals in the Bundesliga or Mbappe in Ligue One. Sheva played in a slightly tougher league IMO at that point in time, facing meaner defences while playing as a lone striker for most of the time, a rarity in that period. He also had a better record in Europe. His numbers speak for themselves. Peak Dinho was untouchable so I'm surprised you think Henry was robbed. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:25pm On May 09, 2023 |
pkasso:I agree especially the local champion part,that asshole is the reason arsenal don’t have ucl trophy |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 4:45pm On May 09, 2023 |
pkasso:Premier league was usually amongst top 2 in Uefa ranking during those years so your comparison with Ligue 1 and bundles Liga makes no sense. How meaner and tougher is a league were Cristiano Lucarelli was finishing top scorer, outscoring Sheva and averaging 20goals per season from 2004 to 2007. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrew444(m): 4:48pm On May 09, 2023 |
iamoyindamola: How was he the reason how arsenal doesn’t have a ucl trophy ? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:56pm On May 09, 2023 |
pkasso: Dinho as of 2004 does not deserve Balon d'Or over Henry Dingo deserved 2005 and 2006, but was robbed in 2006 for Cannavaro just because Brazil coach couldn't balance his team effectively at the World Cup Also Zidane did not deserve 2003 over Henry 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:02pm On May 09, 2023 |
Ibime: Henry did not deserve any of those awards Award were given for performance either in the CL or in major tournaments, Henry was a notorious flop in those tournaments be it world cup 2002, Euro 2004, It was only CL 2006 that he tried but it was still inferior to the achievement of Cavavaro for his NT and Dinho for Barcelona In 2004 CL Henry flopped after Chelsea disgraced Arsenal out, Euro 2004 he flopped all tournament. It was Zidane that was bailing France out until Greece put them out of their misery. Henry was never the leader for his NT, In France 98 though young, he was benched for the crucial part of the tournament, in 2000, he was majorly flopping all through and the key moments he failed to stand up, In Japan Korea, with Zidane injured Henry flopped again when the Arsenal clique ganged up to retire Zidane after 2004, they struggled to qualify for world cup 2006 until Zidane came out of retirement to help them and Zidane went ahead to dominate the world cup 2006 Euro 2008 without Zidane Henry flopped again EPL, Henry was the greatest, CL and NT tournament Henry was a massive flop 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by User09: 6:43pm On May 09, 2023 |
pkasso: I would never forget his first half hattrick against Barca in 97 or thereabout in Camp Nou. He was the drogba to inter as drogba was to arsenal. A big game player, one I really really liked. Did it for his National team and in UCL too Top top European striker, shame the injury happened and his career went the way it went in Chelsea 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 6:48pm On May 09, 2023 |
How is being a leader relevant to anything? What did Ronaldinho win for Brazil when he became their leader without Delima to carry him. They won nothing yet nobody is using it against him . Using Zidane being the main man to rubbish Henry is just nonsense. Henry didn't flop for France. He contributed to those trophies and also scored crucial goals. He performed in some tournament and also had bad tournaments which is normal. Euros 2000: He scored 3 goals ( 2 group stage and 1 in the semi final) and 1 assist. Was named in team of the tournament. World Cup 2006: He scored 3 goals again ( 2 group stage and the winner against Brazil in the quarter final). Was named again In team of the tournament. Sounding like Henry was Giroud in 2018 all throughout his France career. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:51pm On May 09, 2023 |
Capaldi: Ronaldinho is mainly rated for his performance for Barcelona and not so much for his Brazil performances All what you are listing here are group stage performance when the stakes are not high, when the stakes get high, Henry is guaranteed to flop That game vs Brazil in 2006, Anyone who watched it will always point to it as a Zidane masterclass not Henry |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 6:55pm On May 09, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Why is Ronaldinho flopping for Brazil without Delima to carry him not used against him? He scored in knockout stages for France yes or no. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:55pm On May 09, 2023 |
nateevs: I'm not too good with words that's why i make do with videos and if i was,there was no way i will beat natee.v britico with impeccable English. Now see this video below with Malouda and Kalou in that starting lineup and tell me if they were traditional wingers even though they played the way i have always suggested. You can argue it is an isolated case but even Anelka was on the right wing side of the attack in the return leg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_ijliojv0 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 6:57pm On May 09, 2023 |
Somebody had good tournaments and also bad tournaments which was normal yet you are telling us he flopped. Thankfully he also scored in knockout stages because that is what you would have hold onto. You were expecting him to be scoring 20 goals per tournament or what. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:03pm On May 09, 2023 |
Capaldi: Ronaldinho performance in Barcelona between 2004 and 2006 were some of the best around that time and he didnt have any major tournament. The best moments for Ronaldinho was for Barcelona. Ronaldo was the kingpin for Brazil in that era, Dinho never dominated for Brazil, He was just a support cast Henry scored in knockout games so did Wiltord, Trezeguet Djorkaeff, Thuram, Petit. Yet no one is clamoring for them to be WPOTY and Balon dor |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:03pm On May 09, 2023 |
The Ronaldinho how many champions league tournaments did he dominate with Barca? Apart from 2006 how many elite campaign did he have in the champions league. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:07pm On May 09, 2023 |
Leyqute: Was Sir Alex Ferguson using Antonio Valencia as a winger in traditional 4-4-2 system? Why did he not use Antonio Valencia in LWF just he bought him after he sold Ronaldo or was he not trying to make Ronaldo out of Valencia? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:07pm On May 09, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Stop telling us he flopped when he obviously didn't. Using Zidane being the main man to rubbish Henry contribution is just nonsense. You already told us it's about champions league and Major tournament not league football. What did Ronaldinho do in the champions league and major tournaments during those periods apart from being carried by Delima. How many elite champions league campaign did Ronaldinho have in his career. When Delima left Brazil why didn't he carry them to any major trophy. So you agree Ronaldinho was a massive flop for Brazil. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:11pm On May 09, 2023 |
Capaldi: Dinho won the CL in 2006 without DeLima defeating Henrys Arsenal in the final |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:13pm On May 09, 2023 |
raumdeuter:So in Ronaldinho entire career he only had one elite Champions league and international campaign? So he flopped for Brazil and was also a regular flopper in the champions league. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:18pm On May 09, 2023 |
Capaldi: In Henrys entire career he had Zero elite Champions League campaign and International campaign. 1 >>>> 0 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:19pm On May 09, 2023 |
This is the peak of Henry in the CL when he posed for camera in the 75th minute in anticipation of losing the trophy 3 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by akwesenana: 7:20pm On May 09, 2023 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:21pm On May 09, 2023 |
Anybody that tells you Henry flopped for France again draw them close and knock their big head. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:26pm On May 09, 2023 |
This Madrid midfield of Kroos, Modric and Valverde is too light against a team like city especially with Kroos as the Dm. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 7:32pm On May 09, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Even before the argument began, everybody knows it will come to this. When you have nothing to say, they bring out tro0phy or boss final |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 7:37pm On May 09, 2023 |
pkasso:Henry was elite level, he was better than Shevy and Eto as an all round footballer. If the argument is about who was the better goal scorer then Shevy and Eto can stand a chance. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:44pm On May 09, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Amnesia must have made you forget Henry took his team to the champions league final in that same season. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 7:47pm On May 09, 2023 |
raumdeuter:airmark Don disappear 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BronzeTiger: 7:48pm On May 09, 2023 |
Capaldi:Tchouameni should be starting dm. I just hope it's not too late before ancelotti realises it. Rudiger in that real madrid defence is also not bringing confidence. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:02pm On May 09, 2023 |
I'm tired of defending Pep Guardiola while he keeps making the same mistakes, he has few minutes to correct whatever mistakes he is about to make. |
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