Odunayaw:
This days is a generation of mechanical players

Someone shone in the midst of brilliant players that till today are synonymous with the tag "the beautiful game"

He's here pulling stats. Zero clutch moments, Zero nostalgic references

Na Chess we de play abi football

TheSuperNerd:
Haaalaaaaaa Madrid!!!!

TheGoodJoe:


More effective. It depends on what you want to use to rate better players. That Brazil vs France game is about flicks, dribbles, and artistic control.

De Bruyne, is about effective play and creating unbelievable chances for his team mates.

Finito.

TheGoodJoe:


Better is reference. What is the yardstick. What makes better?

My talk has hinged on effectiveness and See Bruyne rules.

Give your parameters for better.

Toylove:

Why e no create am make Belgium take win world cup. Abi world best player. If Ronaldo and messi isnt in this era, debrune still wont be among tpp best 3 players in the world and thats fact.
Bro , its your opinion and it's fine. Respect others who rate zizou above debrune.

chuks404:
what do you even mean by effectiveness? Generally zizzou, modric, iniesta rank higher than kdb. No make me add yaya self.

TheGoodJoe:


It takes a team effort to win a world cup. We are judging individual careers. If you compare Zidane and De Bruyne individually, you will see that de Bruyne is more effective.

TheGoodJoe:


It takes a team effort to win a world cup. We are judging individual careers. If you compare Zidane and De Bruyne individually, you will see that de Bruyne is more effective.

Papi85:
I guess it was he’s father that gifted him the accolades he got after the tournament 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Toylove:

Bro, it's evident that your opinion is based on biase.
At this rate, foden is better than iniesta

Toylove:

Bro, it's evident that your opinion is based on biase.
At this rate, foden is better than iniesta

chuks404:
what do you even mean by effectiveness? Generally zizzou, modric, iniesta rank higher than kdb. No make me add yaya self.

Papi85:
I can show you a clip of games zizou single handedly won for France in big tournaments

The three I can remember is beating Brazil both in 98 finals and 2006 quarter finals Abi semi then semi finals of euro 2000 against Portugal

TheGoodJoe:


Three games is not his whole career.

I can bet Emmanuel Petit played better than Zidane in the 98 finals. It was the corner kick headers that skyrocketed his stocks.

TheGoodJoe:


Three games is not his whole career.

I can bet Emmanuel Petit played better than Zidane in the 98 finals. It was the corner kick headers that skyrocketed his stocks.

TheSuperNerd:
Eduardo Camavinga. That's the post.

Class Act in that first half, heavily involved in Vinicius' Goal.

Ran the length of the pitch while under press from back to front, interchanging passes with Modric midway through his run in midfield.

A left footed midfielder delivering a classic inverted LB role superbly and not just in his defensive half but in the offensive as well. Brilliant.

TheGoodJoe:


I think the Modric pass to Vinicius was the key that did the final damage.

That is what I describe as excellence. You don't need all the flicks in the world to dismantle a defensive shape.

Camavinga has been a problem and is giving Bernardo Silva a tough time.

I think Pep needs to bring Mahrez on and drop Rodri deeper to help shield Vinicius.

With Mahrez drifting into the deep areas, he will be able to connect with De Bruyne more and can wreck havoc by overloading the half space on Real Madrid's left.

mostob:
When you're watching Zidane, you're watching Benardo Silva, Gundogan and KDB rolled into one.

KDB's popularity has a lot to do with Pep's brilliance than his own personal quality sef.

TheGoodJoe:


Three games is not his whole career.

I can bet Emmanuel Petit played better than Zidane in the 98 finals. It was the corner kick headers that skyrocketed his stocks.

TheGoodJoe:


I wonder what is bias here.

My point is simple. De Bruyne plays the attack midfield in a more effective manner than the greats.

TheSuperNerd:
Nope He didn't. Lillian Thuram and Marcel Desailly did. But definitely not Petit.

I understand and have carefully followed the argument of TheGoodJoe vs Everyone on KDB vs Zidane but I implore you Sir Joe, not to disregard Zidane in any form just because you prefer Kevin de brains.

And same to everyone. Don't disrespect the talents of KDB in this era all in a bid to emphasize the genius that Zidane was.


TheGoodJoe, you must understand something. Zidane and KDB are two distinct interpretations of the CAM role.

KDB is more of an elite chances creator but Zidane was the classical controller/Game Conductor. This is why their stats defer.

KDB is a midfielder who is also an accomplished goal scorer in his role but Zidane was a super playmaker of the first class order.

Toylove:

I was about asking to state which of the players would you pick in plain terms but you already did in your next post

Starboytwo:
Yea zizou is Great, but the way people here belittle Kevin de bryune is crazy. Some almost qualify him
As “above average”


If you are going to call any midfielder this era, Kevin must be number 1. See that cross he made in the first half while unbalanced. Haha. They play.

TheSuperNerd:
I won't hide. I will repeat it as said in my last post. Zidane over KDB all day for me but this is because Zidane transcended what the stats could even pick up.

Kevin de brains is as elite as true elites come and can create chances aplenty with his elite passing and insane crossing but Zidane was practically a midfield god who controlled everything in a game. And I mean everything.

The argument of KDB vs Zidane is simply Elite Chances Creator vs Elite Game Controller.

Stats will easily pick out the goals and assists of chances creators but won't pick out the game influence of Genuine Midfield Conductors/Dictators. EOD.

Papi85:
no one is saying that Kevin is average but in the same class as zizou


Anybody telling you Kevin is not good is a hater