DMerciful:
So in your wisdom you think the court will say, Obi, its your fault you didnt get bvas data so we can't do anything? That would be a stupid tribunal

Yes to a layman but thats the law.it is based on facts and evidences not assumptions and wild claims

sreamsense:
Obi has no case, he is just wasting time. Reason why Adeleke won is because of INEC and its lawyers to support Adeleke with their evidences to prove they announced the right candidate. So, the win in Osun election is actually INEC win to prove they announce right candidate and they did their work well. In Tinubu case, INEC will be proving their facts to defend Tinubu indirectly as they did to Adeleke indirectly. Cases related to conduct of presidential election will go in favour of INEC which will benefit Tinubu just like Osun went in favour of INEC and indirectly favours Adeleke. Remaining personal charges against Tinubu are already dead on arrival.

Osun judgement that favoured Adeleke was really victory to INEC which Adeleke was only beneficiary. It has shown that that Obi will loose at court woefully because judgement will favour INEC which Tinubu will become beneficiary, his own personal case will hold no water. If obi is wise, this is the time for him to discontinue the case he can't win

100% correct and on point.

Once all the bvas reports corresponds to each other and that of INEC, there would be no need for the BVAS itself. Its only when the reports from the backend is different then its necessary to bring the BVAS. The BVAS machines exist, don't they?

garfield1:


Yes to a layman but thats the law.it is based on facts and evidences not assumptions and wild claims

DMerciful:
Once all the bvas reports corresponds to each other and that of INEC, there would be no need for the BVAS itself. Its only when the reports from the backend is different then its necessary to bring the BVAS. The BVAS machines exist, don't they?

Well,theres no info on the bvas itself as it was wiped out before guber polls.what obi has is server reports which are unreliable and incomplete.the bvas as it is is useless atikuobi

BVAS is necessary only when the data from the server is different from all parties. INEC issued one certified true copy to all parties. Accreditation data will be compared to NASS election since same accreditation covered both elections.

lhordspy:


Lol. BVAS that were reconfigured after the presidential election?

The only thing left to harvest information from is the INEC server. Something which seems like a secondary source to INEC going by Adeleke's case. INEC wont entertain anything else except from BVAS itself.

Wawuu brother. Wawwu.

Again, reconfiguring does not mean erasing, INEC established that.

Again, you don't need the primaries source if there is no disparity in the secondary source among the political parties. Accreditation data will also be compared with NASS, it was same accreditation

garfield1:


Well,theres no info on the bvas itself as it was wiped out before guber polls.what obi has is server reports which are unreliable and incomplete.the bvas as it is is useless atikuobi

Its INEC prerogative before the guidelines are set but once its done, you cannot change the rules in the middle of the game!

plaindealer:


We've covered this ground before, even though the court and the judicial realm in a suit filed by the LP and Obi himself regarding INEC's mode or method of collation which as we speak is the prerogative of INEC according to the electoral act and the decision of the judiciary.

Beats me why obi and his Pandora mod love to chase their own shadow and labor in vain..

DMerciful:
Again, reconfiguring does not mean erasing, INEC established that.

Again, you don't need the primaries source if there is no disparity in the secondary source among the political parties. Accreditation data will also be compared with NASS, it was same accreditation

Stop clutching at straws sir.everything concerning presidential has been wiped out.reconfiguration doesnt mean erasing but it has erased everything except register.obi is only depending on secondary data which is useless.with bvas out,he needs irev,voters register and manual results which favours tinubu

DMerciful:
Its INEC prerogative before the guidelines are set but once its done, you cannot change the rules in the middle of the game!

The court yesterday said no law mandates inec to transmit accreditation figures and results.I think that has further killed obi main prayer

Lets see how it goes!

garfield1:


Stop clutching at straws sir.everything concerning presidential has been wiped out.reconfiguration doesnt mean erasing but it has erased everything except register.obi is only depending on secondary data which is useless.with bvas out,he needs irev,voters register and manual results which favours tinubu

DMerciful:
BVAS is necessary only when the data from the server is different from all parties. INEC issued one certified true copy to all parties. Accreditation data will be compared to NASS election since same accreditation covered both elections.

The data apc got is more updated and complete than that of obi

DMerciful:
Lets see how it goes!

Theres nothing to see.based on today's judgment,it is over

DMerciful:
Its INEC prerogative before the guidelines are set but once its done, you cannot change the rules in the middle of the game!

If it's INEC's prerogative to decide its own method of collation, then, of what relevance or importance is how and when they do exactly what they are allowed to do according to the constitution?

Do you have your own special INEC law or electoral act that determines when and how INECT must do what they are allowed to do according to the constitution and if you do, kindly show us.

You don't get to make up your own law or dictate to INECT when and how they do their job.

INEC is not the only stakeholder in an election so they cannot change the rule once the election is in progress. Its commonsense!

plaindealer:


If it's INEC's prerogative to decide its own method of collation, then, of what relevance or importance is how and when they do exactly what they are allowed to do according to the constitution?

Do you have your own special INEC law or electoral act that determines when and how INECT must do what they are allowed to do according to the constitution and if you do, kindly show us.

You don't get to make up your own law or dictate to INECT when and how they do their job.

Thats what you said regarding Adeleke. Now you know!

garfield1:


Theres nothing to see.based on today's judgment,it is over

DMerciful:
INEC is not the only stakeholder in an election so they cannot change the rule once the election is in progress. Its commonsense!

This is not about your opinion, emotion, or sentiments, this is about the law. and the electoral ACT.

Show us where in the constitution that says INEC cannot dictate its own method or determine when and how they do its job.

You guys have time. I'll never engage any Obidient on political matters again. It's pointless. It's obvious Obi used some sort of mind control in this last election and it's turning many of his disciples to something very similar to zombies.

We're arguing two different things. I never said they cannot make their own guidelines, they can!. But once it is made and election has started, they cannot change the guidelines when the election is in progress! Any change would be for subsequent elections and would be communicated in advance! Its commonsense!

plaindealer:



This is not about your opinion, emotion, or sentiments, this is about the law. and the electoral ACT.

Show us where in the constitution that says INEC cannot dictate its own method or determine when and how they do its job.

garfield1:


Agim just said it is not compulsory to transmit

Direct transmission from PUs is expected to be mandatory.

The question should be electronically transmit or trasnfer to where?

However, there are situations beyond control that might make that not possible. That also cannot stall the results unless there are some disputations.

The Penalty for non-transmission of results by the PO is in 60(5).

GeneralPula:


You surprised me with this your comment..

Do you know what BVAS is? Do you know the meaning of extraction? How do you think it’s possible to extract from a soft ware? Don’t you know software is what’s inside BVAS? The online result on Inec portal, you think it’s BVAS transmitting them?

This is why the English is inspection. The only thing they inspected was BVAS color, plug, how they do turn on likely cuz that’s what you can inspect! All the physical parts! Abi, can you unscrew the machine?

Digital forensics bro, even as far as 2055, unless each device is completely destroyed. Nothing you delete from you phone, cannot be recovered.

lhordspy:


Very daft boy. Go and check the differences between BVAS and IREV before displaying your stupidity in public.

The BVAS were reconfigured after the presidential election.. You cannot harvest any data from the presidential election on it except on the IREV, which primary work is to display result. Peter Obi wasnt able to access the BVAS but inspected the backup Data only on INEC server.

And the court is only accepting DATA gotten from the BVAS alone.

Dont be stupid.

boda ode we go know who daft between you and I when evidences are being presented at court, continue to dey spit rubbish everywhere. Your eyes go soon clear.

garfield1:


You still dont get it.in osun,three different results were presented yet adeleke won at the supreme court so tinubu will win too.the court said primary result is from irev which shows tinubu won.case closed

Oga you can tell your agbado guys BAT will win not me one bit cos he won't. No dey stress yourself make e no go surprise you.

garfield1:


Well,theres no info on the bvas itself as it was wiped out before guber polls.what obi has is server reports which are unreliable and incomplete.the bvas as it is is useless atikuobi

You think children went to court with exploiting all possible avenues the case could head to? Are you aware that perjury is one of the things INEC will have to defend? Why do you think that Amazon Web Service was included in the case. They have all the original results untampered. It is only children that thinks INEC got away by reconfiguring the BVAS - when I saw that move I laughed so much. They barred Obi, but forgot about AWS.

Let me ask you Tinubu loyalists: do you in anyway think that Jeff Bezos will sabotage a business worth hundreds of billions of dollars over Tinubu's wahala? Do you know what it means if people smell compromise on Amazon's part - the leverage it will offer their competitors. Except they want to burn this country down, then PEPT will ignore data backup on Amazon. The youths are watching keenly, and any foul play would have an equal consequence.

DMerciful:
So in your wisdom you think the court will say, Obi, its your fault you didnt get bvas data so we can't do anything? That would be a stupid tribunal

These guys just argue without sense. They forgot that a court ordered INEC to have the data stored up in a backend server before reconfiguring the bivas. That data is what the court will rely on

PoliticalUpdate:


You think children went to court with exploiting all possible avenues the case could head to? Are you aware that perjury is one of the things INEC will have to defend? Why do you think that Amazon Web Service was included in the case. They have all the original results untampered. It is only children that thinks INEC got away by reconfiguring the BVAS - when I saw that move I laughed so much. They barred Obi, but forgot about AWS.

Let me ask you Tinubu loyalists: do you in anyway think that Jeff Bezos will sabotage a business worth hundreds of billions of dollars over Tinubu's wahala? Do you know what it means if people smell compromise on Amazon's part - the leverage it will offer their competitors. Except they want to burn this country down, then PEPT will ignore data backup on Amazon. The youths are watching keenly, and any foul play would have an equal consequence.

Amazon has no business in the case.it is purely between inec,apc and lp.this is the sane mistake atiku made in 2019.by the way,amazon is even a foreign firm which even has user privacy.you can only prove yourself with what inec gives you.obi has failed,forget the case...
The perjury case is baseless

DMerciful:
We're arguing two different things. I never said they cannot make their own guidelines, they can!. But once it is made and election has started, they cannot change the guidelines when the election is in progress! Any change would be for subsequent elections and would be communicated in advance! Its commonsense!

Again, it is up to INEC to determine or dictate how and when to conduct elections and there's no law under the sun that says they cannot start or end the process according to INEC.

Your opinion and idea of common sense are just your own opinion and personal sentiments, INEC decides according to. to the powers granted to INEC by the Nigerian constitution

I also asked you to show us where any electoral law forbids INEC from dictating their own methods from start to finish or even from changing direction but you keep coming up with ypour own personal opinion and baseless sentiments.

Stop wasting my time.

fergie001:

Direct transmission from PUs is expected to be mandatory.

The question should be electronically transmit or trasnfer to where?

However, there are situations beyond control that might make that not possible. That also cannot stall the results unless there are some disputations.

The Penalty for non-transmission of results by the PO is in 60(5).

It is transferred to inec server not irev.the penalty is imprisonment not cancellations

Just window dressing,just naira refreshing ruling.
They do the right thing with minor case but
Do biddings of power at center eventually

DMerciful:
Thats what you said regarding Adeleke. Now you know!

Obi doesnt have any substantial evidence just like oyetola.aside that,tinubu is too strong for obi.obi too small

That's what Goliath thought until David show am pepper!

garfield1:


Obi doesnt have any substantial evidence just like oyetola.aside that,tinubu is too strong for obi.obi too small

If you know how things are administered, then you should know that you dont change guidelines when in motion especially when there are many people involved.

You think INEC is like a market where things happens anyhow? This is my last response on this, you're trying to justify irregularities

plaindealer:



Again, it is up to INEC to determine or dictate how and when to conduct elections and there's no law under the sun that says they cannot start or end the process according to INEC.

Your opinion and idea of common sense are just your own opinion and personal sentiments, INEC decides according to. to the powers granted to INEC by the Nigerian constitution

I also asked you to show us where any electoral law forbids INEC from dictating their own methods from start to finish or even from changing direction but you keep coming up with ypour own personal opinion and baseless sentiments.

Stop wasting my time.

DMerciful:
That's what Goliath thought until David show am pepper!

Tinubu buried obi up north