chidiokay:



Why not sensitize yourselves with the proceedings of Osun case and see there is a correlation with what is contested at the presidential tribunal

Is Peter Obi or Atiku pushing for over voting

Between the Bvas and Irev, which is the primary source adopted by the tribunal to adjudicate

Adeleke won because APC/Oyetola suddenly have no evidence to present before the supreme court

Can Peter Obi shift the court lens from the primary source to secondary source as IREV .. time will educate us all

Irev is the primary source of result,bvas for accreditation

Penguin2:


Lol! I’m going to pardon your poor knowledge of how digital gadgets work.

But lemme educate you a little…

You see that BVAS, if you like format it or flash it, there are experts who can still extract every information that has ever passed through it since the date it was activated. In this case we are even talking about mere reconfiguration. So you thought reconfiguration wiped out the data of the presidential election stored in the BVAS? Lol.

You need to get yourself educated on a whole lot of things sir.

Obi and his team never were allowed to inspect bvas,time has passed.they can't go again.sorry

seunmsg:



My point is very clear except you want to keep pretending that you don’t understand. Not uploading results immediately from polling units cannot be a ground for annulling any result in as much as what were eventually uploaded is not significantly different from what is on BVAS and declared by INEC.

Again, please note that SUBSTANTIAL is the key word when weighing irregularities and non compliance with INEC guidelines. Over voting was validly proved in Osun election but Supreme Court agreed with INEC and PDP that the over voting that occurred in some polling units were not substantial enough to alter the outcome of the election.

So, three things have been settled today. 1, not uploading results immediately from polling units is not relevant in as much as what was eventually uploaded is not different from what is on BVAS, the primary source of election data. 2, if there are conflict between results generated on IREV and results on BVAS, the result on BVAS takes precedence since it’s the primary source of election data. 3, even if irregularities were proved, it still won’t matter except they are substantial enough to affect the final result.

You are only contradicting, what You are saying,

The constitution gives INEC power to exercise relating to election guidelines.

So you cannot jettison Form EC8A which is the backbone of the Election result snapped on BVAS for uploading to IREV. So stay tune and follow the court proceedings of the election

Gunayo:
Which one is Obi fail. It is INEC that failed to do the right thing. Didn't you see the way INEC frustrated both LP and PDP from getting access to the bivas machines despite the court injunction. Please you guys should atleast talk with conscience.

Since inec frustrated him,he has failed na.

garfield1:


Obi and his team never were allowed to inspect bvas,time has passed.they can't go again.sorry

Why not wait till the court processes begin, You cannot conclude by siting at Your convenience claiming what You're not the initiator of the Petition

chidiokay:



Why not sensitize yourselves with the proceedings of Osun case and see there is a correlation with what is contested at the presidential tribunal

Is Peter Obi or Atiku pushing for over voting

Between the Bvas and Irev, which is the primary source adopted by the tribunal to adjudicate

Adeleke won because APC/Oyetola suddenly have no evidence to present before the supreme court

Can Peter Obi shift the court lens from the primary source to secondary source as IREV .. time will educate us all

The facts and matters of the Osun case and the Presidential petition are very very different.

While Oyetola’s mean argument in court was over voting, Obi and Atiku are not alleging over voting but manipulation of results. These two things are different and the judges are going to decide the petition on its merit.

So, don’t give yourself hope with Osun ruling.

drlateef:




Thank God I find someone with his brain intact. The headless mob, i have lost hope discussing with them. BVAS is the primary source of accredited voters, but not a primary source of election results. The primary source of election results is form EC8A dully signed by all agents. The BVAS machine is a secondary source of that. That is why INEC relied on manual collation. Because what you feed into BVAS is what you will get any time later. And iREV is not a primary source of election results either. And no law mandates INEC to upload results electronically at certain times. The results could be uploaded a year later. Any lawyers that cannot grasp these basic facts is just a charge and bail lawyer that is cashing out at the tribunal.

Seconded

lhordspy:


Lol. You lot act like clowns. You type for entertainment. Is this a joke?

You are insinuating that INEC that stopped over 3000 cyber-attacks on its server cant even perform a simple reconfiguration without leaving loopholes?

Bro. You watch too many sci-fi movie. Where tech guys control space satellite with mobile phones

Your eyes go soon clear.

Lol! He said I type for entertainment.

Well, lemme clear you once again, every data that has ever passed through your phone can be retrieved if your phone is plugged to a certain software. And that includes things you have permanently deleted.

It’s becoming increasingly apparent that a lot of you talk from a place of *****

garfield1:


Obi and his team never were allowed to inspect bvas,time has passed.they can't go again.sorry

Sometimes I just wonder if you are deliberately being mischievous.

Or why are you talking as if you have forgotten that the court has powers to order the BVAS machines be brought to the court for inspection by court appointed forensic experts if they think it would help the case.

garfield1:


Since inec frustrated him,he has failed na.

So this is your definition of failure

Penguin2:


The facts and matters of the Osun case and the Presidential petition are very very different.

While Oyetola’s mean argument in court was over voting, Obi and Atiku are not alleging over voting but manipulation of results. These two things are different and the judges are going to decide the petition on its merit.

So, don’t give yourself hope with Osun ruling.

I am not the one givng myself hope with Osun cases, your advice should go directly to Obedient, lately there are post from Gbadegbo and some obedient praising SAN Onyechi Ikpeazu as Peter Obi lawyer that gave Victory to Adeleke in courts.

garfield1:


Irev is the primary source of result,bvas for accreditation

if IRev is the primary source, the inec ECO8 paper upon which the results are to be entered in written before transmission is what??

chidiokay:


if IRev is the primary source, the inec ECO8 paper upon which the results are to be entered in written before transmission is what??

Both ho together and both shows that tinubu won

Gunayo:
So this is your definition of failure

His court case is already dead

Penguin2:


Sometimes I just wonder if you are deliberately being mischievous.

Or why are you talking as if you have forgotten that the court has powers to order the BVAS machines be brought to the court for inspection by court appointed forensic experts if they think it would help the case.

True but theres no time for that and no time to inspect even up to 1000 machines

engineerboat:



Why not wait till the court processes begin, You cannot conclude by siting at Your convenience claiming what You're not the initiator of the Petition

Atiku petition is worse than that of 2019

garfield1:


His court case is already dead

Na you burry am

lhordspy:
According to your main point, this:
"First, and the most important takeaway, is that the apex court has established it as a precedent that the BVAS is the primary source of data for the election. What this means is that every vote scored or announced by INEC must tally with the accreditation data as captured by the BVAS."

I have come to the conclusion that it is either you are ignorant of this whole thing or you trying hard to confuse yourself rather than convince your reader.

BVAS is different from IREV. Will i have to continue screaming this everyday?

And what do you mean by "every vote scored or announced must tally with accreditation voters?"

Going by the judgement, Obi has no case. Obi used 2weeks trying to harvest data from results stored in INEC server not even from BVAS itself . And they came back with complains instead of concrete evidence. We know how lousy the LP are, if there was anything tangible as outcome. They would have included 'Over voting' in their petition. They would have made it the center of their wailing.

It is two different thing here. Ademola vs Adeleke case is centred on over-voting, and it is very logical that BVAS should be the main source of focus; because that is the main work of the BvAS. But Obi's petition is centred around result and other small fries that falls under deminimis rule . And it has nothing to do with BVAS.

Then your intelligent contribution will turn to put at you as who rather ignorant.
Have you forgotten so soon that the first step taken by Obi was to file a case that the BVAs should not be tampered with?

telleyway:


Then your intelligent contribution will turn to put at you as who rather ignorant.
Have you forgotten so soon that the first step taken by Obi was to file a case that the BVAs should not be tampered with?

And he lost sir. INEC reconfigured the BVAS for State election. He was only able to scrutinise backup data on server.

And the court in Adeleke's case is insisting on the primary source which is only the BVAS.

Gunayo:
Na you burry am

Adaobi buried himself

lhordspy:


And he lost sir. INEC reconfigured the BVAS for State election. He was only able to scrutinise backup data on server.

And the court in Adeleke's case is insisting on the primary source which is only the BVAS.

Then you give it to Obi, court can not insist in his own case, because he was a step ahead by filing that case.
Inec made a commitment before court allowed them to format the BVAs

chidiokay:



I am not the one givng myself hope with Osun cases, your advice should go directly to Obedient, lately there are post from Gbadegbo and some obedient praising SAN Onyechi Ikpeazu as Peter Obi lawyer that gave Victory to Adeleke in courts.

Well, don’t blame us for praising Onyechi Ikpeazu. Because eventhough he’s not the judge that ruled on the matter, you can’t extricate the contribution of a lawyer in influencing where a case goes.

It’s like giving the musician all the acolades for a good song and forgetting the contribution of the producer of the song. Because if beat no sweat, song go be rubbish.

So, why are you making it seem like hyping Ikpeazu is a misplaced priority? Especially when you remember that he’s in Obi’s team and would be bringing the experience he garnered from the Adeleke case to Obi’s case?

garfield1:


True but theres no time for that and no time to inspect even up to 1000 machines

With two petitioners withdrawing their petitions, the court is going to have a little more time to play with and make sure that every evidence that will help the case is properly scrutinized and examined.

Penguin2:


Well, don’t blame us for praising Onyechi Ikpeazu. Because eventhough he’s not the judge that ruled on the matter, you can’t extricate the contribution of a lawyer in influencing where a case goes.

It’s like giving the musician all the acolades for a good song and forgetting the contribution of the producer of the song. Because if beat no sweat, song go be rubbish.

So, why are you making it seem like hyping Ikpeazu is a misplaced priority? Especially when you remember that he’s in Obi’s team and would be bringing the experience he garnered from the Adeleke case to Obi’s case?

But Adeleke won base on the fact that APC did not present evidence in court to counter Adeleke victory or there was nothing to prove ... so regardless of who handled the case Adeleke would have won, what played out in osun was more of politics that justice, only deep mind can understand.

what experience did San Onyechi gather from an unopposed court proceedings, naa so so mouth una get, can San Onyechi save the day if Inec and judiciary decided to be compromised. credit should go to judiciary

Penguin2:


With two petitioners withdrawing their petitions, the court is going to have a little more time to play with and make sure that every evidence that will help the case is properly scrutinized and examined.

No Sir.two months is already gone out of 6.obi will have 3 months,lp 3 months,inec 2,apc 2,tinubu 2.the remaining 4 weeks is for final addresses and replies.out of that 3 weeks given to obi,he needs at least a week to present one prayer which means highest he can do is 3 prayers in three weeks.in 2019,the court handled 3 cases

chidiokay:




But Adeleke won base on the fact that APC did not present evidence in court to counter Adeleke victory or there was nothing to prove ... so regardless of who handled the case Adeleke would have won, what played out in osun was more of politics that justice, only deep mind can understand.

what experience did San Onyechi gather from an unopposed court proceedings, naa so so mouth una get, can San Onyechi save the day if Inec and judiciary decided to be compromised. credit should go to judiciary

Lol! How much more funny can you people be?

Are you even aware that it was APC that took Adeleke to the Supreme Court in disagreement with Appeal Court ruling yet you are here saying the case was not opposed?

Haba mana, where’s your logic?

garfield1:


No Sir.two months is already gone out of 6.obi will have 3 months,lp 3 months,inec 2,apc 2,tinubu 2.the remaining 4 weeks is for final addresses and replies.out of that 3 weeks given to obi,he needs at least a week to present one prayer which means highest he can do is 3 prayers in three weeks.in 2019,the court handled 3 cases

Lol.

Don’t sit here to worry on behalf of the court.

Penguin2:

Lol.

Don’t sit here to worry on behalf of the court.

All these happened in 2019 pept.dejavu

Penguin2:


Lol! How much more funny can you people be?

Are you even aware that it was APC that took Adeleke to the Supreme Court in disagreement with Appeal Court ruling yet you are here saying the case was not opposed?

Haba mana, where’s your logic?

Going to court is very customary in Nig elections if that is up for debate, even APP no one know there flagbearer petitioned Tinubu at the tribunal.

If you follow the 1st proceeding of Oyetola vs Adeleke at the tribunal you will know politics happened along the way ... my opinion tho

The way Buhari, Tinubu rush to congratulate Adeleke even Davido message came late 🤣 APC are the ones even given Adeleke motivational speech and support ... don't worry it will make sense much later no be now

chidiokay:




Going to court is very customary in Nig elections if that is up for debate, even APP no one know there flagbearer petitioned Tinubu at the tribunal.

If you follow the 1st proceeding of Oyetola vs Adeleke at the tribunal you will know politics happened along the way ... my opinion tho

The way Buhari, Tinubu rush to congratulate Adeleke even Davido message came late 🤣 APC are the ones even given Adeleke motivational speech and support ... don't worry it will make sense much later no be now

We understand all this your logic of APC sacrificing Osun for the bigger cake which is the Presidential petition but that’s fowl thinking.

Not denying the power of APC to fix judgments or try to intimidate the judges to rule in their favour but we are watching and the world is watching.

If I were you, I would not keep my hopes high.

Penguin2:


We understand all this your logic of APC sacrificing Osun for the bigger cake which is the Presidential petition but that’s fowl thinking.

Not denying the power of APC to fix judgments or try to intimidate the judges to rule in their favour but we are watching and the world is watching.

If I were you, I would not keep my hopes high.

Apparently you and your people have still not learnt amything from chest beating and empty boast, you guyz are empty that's why we hear so much noise.

APC does not have to do anything than just wait for Peter OBi and Atiku to bring there non- existing evidence
We all know how lousy everyone that support Peter Obi is, a lot of obi supporters have collated the results on the Irev portal but the end result won't let dem come to share what they found
However I for one look forward to seeing all those evidence Datti bragged they had and i hope una lawyers from russia have arrived, one would have expected Obi to shop for china lawyer he should know better 🤣

garfield1:


Well,theres no info on the bvas itself as it was wiped out before guber polls.what obi has is server reports which are unreliable and incomplete.the bvas as it is is useless atikuobi

Lol

For your information, every information that has ever passed through the BVAS can still be extracted no matter the kind of wiping you do.

Thank you.