Shma2023:

You're not listening. I said this:

Urbanization in an African context means nothing! I used Ghana vs India as a case study, you overlooked it and assumed your own debate.

Zombie. Urbanization rate has everything to do with population; so yeah! We're talking population. Nothing has changed.

Now your last paragraph is the point. That's my argument. So yeah; now I know you grasped the point.

there's nothing like urbanization in an African context... There's just urbanization in the general sense of what it means.

Even Indians themselves put Ghana above India because of the achievement Ghana has made on all front.

Now face your front, the chart is not about urbanization but water access and which setting has the most access.

Since you agree with his last paragraph that Kenya is not doing better than Ghana, I don't want to see you argue here on anything factual again.

Shma2023:

No one is doing that, why would we?
We know from the back of our minds the Negativities in SA, but we don't tread with such. You're the zombie who is always insecure about things going on in your country.

Every Kenyan admits SA is doing OK. We aim for SA cities and progress. We acknowledge your robust market capitalization as attached herein. SA is doing good; but has equally the worst; which we rarely bring for contention.


Don't be an insecure Bi*tch.

The South African stock market capitalization is $1.6 trillion 2023

Shma2023:

No one is doing that, why would we?
We know from the back of our minds the Negativities in SA, but we don't tread with such. You're the zombie who is always insecure about things going on in your country.

Every Kenyan admits SA is doing OK. We aim for SA cities and progress. We acknowledge your robust market capitalization as attached herein. SA is doing good; but has equally the worst; which we rarely bring for contention.


Don't be an insecure Bi*tch.

nope its not equally worst if it was there wouldnt be an ever accelerating number of people seeking to move and invest in south africa.

Ghana oil industry and oil storage facilities


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0QdWpRPrxk

Mining sector at it apex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_2BO4IvlkE

Just40:
there's nothing like urbanization in an African context... There's just urbanization in the general sense of what it means.

Even Indians themselves put Ghana above India because of the achievement Ghana has made on all front.

Now face your front, the chart is not about urbanization but water access

Urbanization in an African context means Sprawling slums. Ghana for instance, has high urbanization as a result of poverty stretching and slumbolium spill. You can't compare the 50% of India's urbanization rate with the 50% Ghanaian urbanization rate, NO! you breeding poor people to the city, consequences? HUUUUGE SLUM RATE!

Buckle up! We need to define urbanization before we elevate this topic.

What is the concept of urbanization?
Urbanization refers to the concentration of human populations into discrete areas. This concentration leads to the transformation of land for residential, commercial, industrial and transportation purposes. It can include densely populated centers, as well as their adjacent periurban or suburban fringes

Back to population. Yes! Urbanization in this context is still urbanization. Con sequences thereafter is not the same! Urban as it's define is not different either! Tamale or takoradi in Ghana is still urban - so does Durban in SA.

The point is; this discussion serves zero purpose

AfriqueDuZuid:
nope its not equally worst if it was there wouldnt be an ever accelerating number of people seeking to move and invest in south africa.

Again, a different answer to a different topic. Why are you confused?

AfriqueDuZuid:


The South African stock market capitalization is $1.6 trillion 2023

Ok. Thanks for updating us. Kenya's too; in 2023 will be bigger I guess.

Shma2023:

Urbanization in an African context means Sprawling slums. Ghana for instance, has high urbanization as a result of poverty stretching and slumbolium spill. You can't compare the 50% of India's urbanization rate with the 50% Ghanaian urbanization rate, NO! you breeding poor people to the city, consequences? HUUUUGE SLUM RATE!

Buckle up! We need to define urbanization before we elevate this topic.

What is the concept of urbanization?
Urbanization refers to the concentration of human populations into discrete areas. This concentration leads to the transformation of land for residential, commercial, industrial and transportation purposes. It can include densely populated centers, as well as their adjacent periurban or suburban fringes

Back to population. Yes! Urbanization in this context is still urbanization. Con sequences thereafter is not the same! Urban as it's define is not different either! Tamale or takoradi in Ghana is still urban - so does Durban in SA.

The point is; this discussion serves zero purpose

Let's take the point you made into consideration.

Ghana has a lower poverty rate than India and Kenya.
Also Ghana has a lower percentage of it population living in slums than India and Kenya.
Also Ghana has a 58% urbanization rate which is more than twice that of Kenya and also higher than India.

So basically in the end you made no sense and possibly got lost along the way😂🤣

AfriqueDuZuid:


The South African stock market capitalization is $1.6 trillion 2023

Kenya stock market cap at the moment should be around 15 Billion dollars and Safaricom alone takes over 75% of that at over 10 Billion dollars.
I think African countries generally are not big on stocks.

Here are all the market caps of the world starting from Algeria with 434 million dollars in market cap. South Africa 1.2 trillion dollars. Nigeria 64 Billion dollars.

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/nigeria/market-capitalization#:~:text=in%20Mar%202023%3F-,Nigeria%20Market%20Capitalization%20accounted%20for%2064.177%20USD%20bn%20in%20Mar,table%20below%20for%20more%20data.

Edit:
Infact Kenya is now 13 Billion dollars by market cap. What da hell is going on?

Just40:
Let's take the point you made into consideration.

Ghana has a lower poverty rate than India and Kenya.
Also Ghana has a lower percentage of it population living in slums than India and Kenya.
Also Ghana has a 58% urbanization rate which is more than twice that of Kenya and also higher than India.

So basically in the end you made no sense and possibly got lost along the way😂🤣

You didn't grasp anything. Slums in Ghana is not the same with a slum in SA.

Ghana is not doing better than SA! But yeah; Ghana slum population is lower than SA and kenya; Why?
A slum in Ghana is different from a slum in kenya. There are part of Ghana which can be considered decent modern town but in kenya or SA; they are uncouth shambolic areas(----SLUMS-----).

So in a nutshell; your point is Null and void.

Shma2023:

You didn't grasp anything. Slums in Ghana is not the same with a slum in SA.

Ghana is not doing better than SA! But yeah; Ghana slum population is lower than SA and kenya; Why?
A slum in Ghana is different from a slum in kenya. There are part of Ghana which can be considered descend modern town but in kenya or SA; they are uncouth shambolic areas(----SLUMS-----).

So in a nutshell; your point is thanks and void.

Did you see SA in the comment you are replying to? 🤣😂🤣

I mentioned 2 countries that Ghana slum rate is better than and Ghanaian slum dwellers have it better than.

Ghanaian slums usually pass for middle income areas in kenya

Shma2023:

Ok. Thanks for updating us. Kenya's too; in 2023 will be bigger I guess.

😂😂😂

AfriqueDuZuid:


We only need to push 11% to have 100% access

You need to push 56% of your population that don't have access to water

We will do it faster..than RSA..we are building 100 water big dams..as you depend on Lesotho

rvp20182:
We will do it faster..than RSA..we are building 100 water big dams..as you depend on Lesotho

with which money ...

I'm rest assured it won't happen in the next 10 years 🤣😂

Kenyans a delusional thinking

Just40:
with which money ...

I'm rest assured it won't happen in the next 10 years 🤣😂

Kenyans a delusional thinking

With ppp mad man..90 percent of France warer...is private. Kenya has got where it is by using brain.Your biggest resource the brain unfortunately is misfiring.We are developing water ppp framework like electricity ppps

Just40:
😂🤣😂

They all thought they were doing well because they couldn't understand the graph.

I think I have my answer of why Kenyans are not good in Science, Maths, Engineering, Economics, Statistics and etc.

You'll hardly find a Kenyan doing such programs when we meet in foreign countries.

Why are they not into engineering stuff and science?

Just40:
Did you see SA in the comment you are replying to? 🤣😂🤣

I mentioned 2 countries that Ghana slum rate is better than and Ghanaian slum dwellers have it better than.

Ghanaian slums usually pass for middle income areas in kenya

My friend, it's logic! Logic beats everything!
SA is in the equation because it's the reason why this topic is existing in the first place. So if we have to be realistic; let's try logic.

--- last paragraph: usual HOT AIR.

rvp20182:
With ppp mad man..90 percent of France warer...is private. Kenya has got where it is by using brain.[center][/center]Your biggest resource the brain unfortunately is misfiring.We are developing water ppp framework like electricity ppps

Lunatic

I know you don't know this but ppp don't finance dam projects for water supply because they consider them as none viable venture unless it has a power generation capacity of more than 100MW to make money.

In France, they are viable ventures because water bills are so high and people can afford paying such high bills.

Your govt doesn't even have the money to build the pipeline networks needed to provide this service to the rest of Kenya

Kazikazi:
Why are they not into engineering stuff and science?

they don't have the mental capacity for it

Shma2023:

My friend, it's logic! Logic beats everything!
SA is in the equation because it's the reason why this topic is existing in the first place. So if we have to be realistic; let's try logic.

--- last paragraph: usual HOT AIR.

I didn't mention SA

I mentioned both Kenya and India, using SA as a distraction won't work on me.

Kenya is the reason why this topic is up because you guys couldn't understand a simple graph that a KG kid will read successfully to you. And you guys went ahead to show us to what extent you didn't understand it.

SA is better than Ghana in water supply
Ghana is better than Kenya
Likewise Nigeria and Somalia

I've simplify it for you

I love how beautiful the mansions behind WestHills mall are and how the industrial are behind it has grown


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uJGcrcCEp4

GeneralDae:

Kenya stock market cap at the moment should be around 15 Billion dollars and Safaricom alone takes over 75% of that at over 10 Billion dollars.
I think African countries generally are not big on stocks.

Here are all the market caps of the world starting from Algeria with 434 million dollars in market cap. South Africa 1.2 trillion dollars. Nigeria 64 Billion dollars.

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/nigeria/market-capitalization#:~:text=in%20Mar%202023%3F-,Nigeria%20Market%20Capitalization%20accounted%20for%2064.177%20USD%20bn%20in%20Mar,table%20below%20for%20more%20data.

Edit:
Infact Kenya is now 13 Billion dollars by market cap. What da hell is going on?

It's a reflection of the general malaise in the little Indian economy. The country is unraveling before our eyes as we warned but got insulted by folks who know nothing about how economies work.

Just40:
I didn't mention SA

I mentioned both Kenya and India, using SA as a distraction won't work on me.

Kenya is the reason why this topic is up because you guys couldn't understand a simple graph that a KG kid will read successfully to you. And you guys went ahead to show us to what extent you didn't understand it.

SA is better than Ghana in water supply
Ghana is better than Kenya
Likewise Nigeria and Somalia

I've simplify it for you

You've just repeated everything I've been telling you then add a few gibberish that you peddle frequently.


SLUM RATE IS THE BONE OF CONTENTION! -----TOPIC AT HAND----- we need to finish one aspect before moving to the other. The recent discussion which you're yet to answer is: why do you think SA is a hellhole to Ghana going by Slum rate? I didn't ask how is Somalia better than Nigeria.... I see what you did to Nigeria over there. .. But that is beside the point.

Ghana cannot co-exist in the same phrase with kenya when anything development is something to go by.

Simple logic, you can't fathom. India's urbanization rate is several digits behind Ghana --- when clearly; India is miles ahead of Ghana in pretty much everything. The point here is; Urbanization rate is nothing _ especially when Ghana breeds slums in the name of it.

Shma2023:

You've just repeated everything I've been telling you then add a few gibberish that you peddle frequently.


SLUM RATE IS THE BONE OF CONTENTION! -----TOPIC AT HAND----- we need to finish one aspect before moving to the other. The recent discussion which you're yet to answer is: why do you think SA is a hellhole to Ghana going by Slum rate? I didn't ask how is Somalia better than Nigeria.... I see what you did to Nigeria over there. .. But that is beside the point.

Ghana cannot co-exist in the same phrase with kenya when anything development is something to go by.

The ranking is still the same for slums

South Africa is better than Ghana
Ghana is better than Kenya

For water

SA is better than Ghana
Ghana is better than Kenya
Nigeria is better than Kenya
Somalia is better than Kenya

Just cause you couldn't read to understand.

You can go and argue with the world bank

I'm yet to find things that India is better than Ghana in. If an Indian hear you say that India is better than Ghana, the person might slap you. 😂🤣

Only the Kenyans here think Urbanization is nothing cause most of you ain't smart and usually don't know much

GeneralDae:

Kenya stock market cap at the moment should be around 15 Billion dollars and Safaricom alone takes over 75% of that at over 10 Billion dollars.
I think African countries generally are not big on stocks.

Here are all the market caps of the world starting from Algeria with 434 million dollars in market cap. South Africa 1.2 trillion dollars. Nigeria 64 Billion dollars.

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/nigeria/market-capitalization#:~:text=in%20Mar%202023%3F-,Nigeria%20Market%20Capitalization%20accounted%20for%2064.177%20USD%20bn%20in%20Mar,table%20below%20for%20more%20data.

Edit:
Infact Kenya is now 13 Billion dollars by market cap. What da hell is going on?

You're using the wrong source to verify.

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2023/04/nse-market-capitalization-drops-to-sh1-75trn-in-q1-2023/

Kenya's stock market capitalization is $17B. The biggest company after 8 south African and one Moroccan is Safaricom at position 10 - in SMC. Nigeria has nothing.

Now remove South Africa's MTN and dangote firm.

Shma2023:

You're using the wrong source to verify.

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2023/04/nse-market-capitalization-drops-to-sh1-75trn-in-q1-2023/

Kenya's stock market capitalization is $17B. The biggest company after 8 south African and one Moroccan is Safaricom at position 10 - in SMC. Nigeria has nothing.

Now remove South Africa's MTN and dangote firm.

Convert 1.75 trillion shillings to dollars using 130 shillings for Q1 2023 average. It's definitely not up to 15 Billion dollars.

Shma2023:

You're using the wrong source to verify.

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2023/04/nse-market-capitalization-drops-to-sh1-75trn-in-q1-2023/

Kenya's stock market capitalization is $17B. The biggest company after 8 south African and one Moroccan is Safaricom at position 10 - in SMC. Nigeria has nothing.

Now remove South Africa's MTN and dangote firm.

Like I gave in my reply above, 1.75 trillion shillings can't be 17 Billion dollars. Let me post your top 5 companies again. Safaricom literally owns Kenyan market. This is the real monopoly.

Shma2023:

You're using the wrong source to verify.

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2023/04/nse-market-capitalization-drops-to-sh1-75trn-in-q1-2023/

Kenya's stock market capitalization is $17B. The biggest company after 8 south African and one Moroccan is Safaricom at position 10 - in SMC. Nigeria has nothing.

Now remove South Africa's MTN and dangote firm.

1.75 trillion kshs is 12 billion dollars and some coins

Just40:
1.75 trillion kshs is 12 billion dollars and some coins

Lol. You just come scatter the table patapata. Small table when I dey manage with Shma 😄

GeneralDae:

Lol. You just come scatter the table patapata. Small table when I dey manage with Shma 😄

😂🤣

I don't like to manage egos these days

Just40:
1.75 trillion kshs is 12 billion dollars and some coins

Wrong; it's $13Billion as calculated by @generaldae. Your calculation sucks! Maybe it's because your cognitive ceiling is at Dwarf level.

Don't pope your nose into big boys affairs. Ghana market capitalization 2023 is a paltry $6B. That's how irrelevant Ghana is.

Shma2023:

You're using the wrong source to verify.

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/business/2023/04/nse-market-capitalization-drops-to-sh1-75trn-in-q1-2023/

Kenya's stock market capitalization is $17B. The biggest company after 8 south African and one Moroccan is Safaricom at position 10 - in SMC. Nigeria has nothing.

Now remove South Africa's MTN and dangote firm.

First 1.75trnksh is not upto $17bn.

And for the bold why?