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Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 7:19am On May 13, 2023 |
DesChyko:He actually is completely right, the web is 99/100 garbage, you need to know what you are looking for in order to filter through. When researching African history, most people just read some fairytales online and confuse it with history. You need to know how to research history. Look for eyewitness written docs. You would need to go to the right libraries for that. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Trizyd(m): 7:35am On May 13, 2023 |
Lol, π€£π€£π€£ you dismissed videos and somr arguments here and your reason was that they were from white people. Who drew the maps you showing? Who explored those areas? Your Benin people? MF whites!!! You tendered their survey as evidence?? Who stole and raided your so lovely and old empire..? Whites, yet you come here to pick fight with your brother that's trying to survive. You guys have issues. Yoruba ronu, to your tents!!! These guys got on the education train late and we have no time to school them about history. 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 7:39am On May 13, 2023 |
I wrote Stoplying: You replied Trizyd: That wasn't my reason, are you blind or just stupid? |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Trizyd(m): 7:45am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying: And your comment on the pictures and maps and google screenshots is?π’ 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 7:46am On May 13, 2023 |
Trizyd:Are you actually asking me to repeat my comments which you can already access on this topic ? |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Trizyd(m): 7:52am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying: So in conclusion, when you where presenting your arguments, you brought out facts, picture evidences(maps) not made by you or your kinsman but by white people who owns the research and are the owners of what you use. THE SAME PEOPLE THAT RAIDED YOUR EMPIRE? 2 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 7:56am On May 13, 2023 |
Trizyd:I presented documents written by people who witnessed my ancestors. The ethnicity of those who wrote them is irrelevant, all that matters is that they witnessed my ancestors which none of us alive today did ! Also for your info, not that it matters, none of those documents were written by British people and they were written hundreds of years before 1897. As for the photos, they could have been taken by the devil for all I care...so long the photos are showing my people in the period of time which I am interested in. I really fail to get your point eventhough I am trying really hard. I don't throw away evidence because of the colour of the skin of the person who provided the evidence. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Trizyd(m): 8:11am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying: Which documents please? All you showed here where not possible to have been obtained during those era. All you just posted here are what you heard or what someone too heard as well. The only the note worthy was the arts that the empire had and no one is disputing that even someone else here made mention of it, I can also add the fragments of the man made wall around the city too. Awesome structure, nothing else again. All these maps, graphics and screenshot you are using to prove a point is nonsense. I can ask chatgpt and stability to get me something similar. 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 8:18am On May 13, 2023 |
Trizyd:The maps are from here A little bit about the history of LagosAnd the architecture photos are from 1897 or before 1897 And some of the photos are from museums where they stored Benin artefacts (no need for those to be taken before 1897) You should have asked for my source, but you thought I was bluffing π π€£
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Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Trizyd(m): 8:24am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying: Please house, what does this statement mean? And map reader's and all, how are those maps related to Ancient Benin Empire. I'm not so learned in reading maps and French. 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 8:27am On May 13, 2023 |
Trizyd:The photos of Benin architecture are from 1897 or before 1897. That is Benin Precolonial architecture. The maps are the maps made by people who visited the region hundreds of years ago. I don't think you need to be a specialist on maps to read those. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 8:30am On May 13, 2023 |
Trizyd: The text: Stoplying:
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Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 8:31am On May 13, 2023 |
I'm tired |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Odogwuzack: 9:08am On May 13, 2023 |
NaMe4: Thank you. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by DesChyko: 9:16am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying: What is the web? A self-existing, self-teaching, self-sufficient being, capable of accumulating information across time by itself? π 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Odogwuzack: 9:37am On May 13, 2023 |
Trizyd: 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 9:49am On May 13, 2023 |
In essence, history and story are two different things. 1)A story is an event whose value of truth is unimportant. 2)History is a collection of events in which every event is true, you need to rigourously prove each event. Understanding history implies understanding how to research history, also once you understand, crooks like the guys in that Ife head video won't be able to dupe you anymore. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 10:38am On May 13, 2023 |
Odogwuzack: Everything is centered around the recent election to you. Many individuals now, who have gained wisdom, recognize the flaws in Yoruba history. Your so-called great kingdom always manages to remain relevant by sharing ties with the great Benin empire. Funny how no sign of the alleged Oyo empire's splendor and greatness remains. Why is the Oyo empire unique while other great empires exhibit signs of greatness? I'm not talking about fictional stories, please. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 10:45am On May 13, 2023 |
NaMe4: History is not a burden on the memory but an illumination of the soul. We cannot permit the propagation of a false history. And yes the Edos have always been a force to be reckoned with in all walks of life. You can mention anything, from sports to politics to education. An Edo man was the one who proposed the motion for our independence. As a result, we have been important throughout history. We are a people with a rich cultural history, and when we look back at it, we see there are many gaps and falsehoods that have been spread. This is what we are attempting to correct. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 10:50am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying: In order to make the So-called Oyo empire gain credibility, they constantly attempt to link it to the legendary Benin empire. In the early 1400s, the Benins were already a unified and well organized people. We had a bustling trading relationship with the Portuguese and were one of Africa's largest empires. The great Oyo empire was vanished at that time. Just out of nowhere, the vast Oyo kingdom appeared? |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by PoloG: 10:52am On May 13, 2023 |
Instead of this tiny bini people to think of the problem affecting them like how to stop their whorish women from disgracing africa in Italy or their cursed lazy cultist and yahoo boys, Na to dey compare with people wey nor send them 4 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 10:55am On May 13, 2023 |
Ttalk: The Yorubas are primarily descendants of ex-slaves who moved from South America. Because they received a western education, they exploited it as a weapon to fabricate history and utilized cunning and treachery to gain relevance. The Oyo-Empire legend is all folklore. You refer to an empire that ruled over Dahomey, Contonu, and portions of the Upper Volta as a sub-kingdom? To overthrow the empire, they had to wage war. You must be joking I guess. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 10:58am On May 13, 2023 |
PoloG: In Yorubaland, the culture of hookups is accepted. Only in Yoruba land would you witness a woman with a husband and children engaging in hookups. Also a Yoruba man, is the inventor of cultism in Nigeria. All tribes are only playing catch up; the Yorubas are the ones that created 419. 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 10:59am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying: Thanks for the education. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by phineas: 11:08am On May 13, 2023 |
Hope you all know that ife has been one of the largest archeological research sites globally in the last 5 years. With its archeological team from the best archeological institutes in the world. The findings so far are deep, very deep. Yoruba civilization at ife is one of the oldest in the world. And they have their history well documented in writing and orally with its findings been corroborated by modern day archeological findings. You can all argue all you want the yorubas as a people do not play ,fight or argue on matters that does not in anyway improve them. Like that saying that "the lion does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep". Here's a tip for you all ...buy land in ife, foreigners are doing so already.by the time those publications are made public after peer review. Ife will be viewed as a holy and revered city that it is globally. Here's a fun fact.The title of Oni historically was that of a priest not a king.The story of the kings of ancient Yoruba is another story entirely ... 2 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by phineas: 11:12am On May 13, 2023 |
Vado2: The fact that an African child write this is deeply disturbing. In view of the fact that history and archaeology clearly documents the existence of 3 oyo kingdoms so far (by location). Each one lesser in might and grandiosity than the previous one.And yes there is still an Oyo kingdom today How do you all not know this? 2 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 11:26am On May 13, 2023 |
Vado2:There was never an Oyo empire. |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 11:27am On May 13, 2023 |
phineas:You people have too much imagination, dude stop telling lies ! |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 11:29am On May 13, 2023 |
phineas:Ha, ok you are making your fake history and your obvious lies about archeology in order to sell land π€£ |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 11:30am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying: Yeah, I know that. In order for the Oyo empire story to gain credibility they tied it to the genuine Benin empire. 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Stoplying: 11:37am On May 13, 2023 |
phineas:1) present your source 2)... |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Trizyd(m): 11:39am On May 13, 2023 |
Stoplying:
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