Ken4Christ:

What about the everlasting fire he mentioned? What other phrase can you use to replace it?
He also used the phrase, furnace of fire.
Suffer de sweet you. You go cry tire.

MaxInDHouse:


You keep telling yourself a lie blindly instead of finding out what Jesus taught in his mother's language. It's like someone speaking to his own people using idioms and proverbs familiar to his listeners then a stranger tries to interpret only to end up giving a totally different picture of what the original speaker wanted to inculcate in the minds of his listeners.
Well continue dreaming about your torment after death at least the true God has declared that tormenting people in fire has never come up to His heart {Jeremiah 7:31} perhaps you can force it down His throat since that is what your own religion teaches!

Janosky:


Whereas your fellow Trinitarians OLAADEGBU, Emusan continue to give a totally different conflicting report they received from your holy ghost.


Their own Jesus was raised as a human being. Them go quote Matt Slick tire, their super Daddy.

MaxInDHouse:


You keep telling yourself a lie blindly instead of finding out what Jesus taught in his mother's language. It's like someone speaking to his own people using idioms and proverbs familiar to his listeners then a stranger tries to interpret only to end up giving a totally different picture of what the original speaker wanted to inculcate in the minds of his listeners.
Well continue dreaming about your torment after death at least the true God has declared that tormenting people in fire has never come up to His heart {Jeremiah 7:31} perhaps you can force it down His throat since that is what your own religion teaches!

Emusan:

"They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind." Jer 7:31
But the same God rained down fire on Sodom and Gomarrah. You think the fire won't torment the people before destroying them
Definitely you don't understand the content of that Jer 7:31

Ken4Christ:


See what Rutherford and Russell has done ooo. Taking countless millions to hell through brainwashing.

MaxInDHouse:
God killed those in Noah's days with a flood, killed the firstborn in Egypt, killed Egyptian soldiers in the red sea, killed 185,000 Assyrian soldiers.
None says He was TORMENTING the living but destroyed them!

Emusan:


So your Jer 7:31 doesn't apply here then.

because no where in Jer 7:31 that says God won't torment people with fire.

But here is a direct statement from Jesus about torment with fire.

Matthew 13:50 "and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Was Jesus talking about the living or non existence being?

When Emusan is thrown into the burning furnace, will Emusan gnash his teeth forever?

When king Nebuchadnezzar's servants where thrown into the burning furnace (meant for Abednego & friends) are those servants gnashing their teeth today?

Emusan,What did fire do to those servants?

Hellfire scam robbed your brain.

Emusan:


"They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind." Jer 7:31

But the same God rained down fire on Sodom and Gomarrah. You think the fire won't torment the people before destroying them

Definitely you don't understand the content of that Jer 7:31

Emusan:

So your Jer 7:31 doesn't apply here then.
because no where in Jer 7:31 that says God won't torment people with fire. But here is a direct statement from Jesus about torment with fire.
Matthew 13:50 "and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Was Jesus talking about the living or non existence being?

Emusan:


You were asked a very vital question, as usual you couldn't answer but to be dancing around like headless chicken.


When will you receive sense?

Janosky:
When Emusan is thrown into the burning furnace, will Emusan gnash his teeth forever?

When king Nebuchadnezzar's servants where thrown into the burning furnace (meant for Abednego & friends) are those servants gnashing their teeth today?

Emusan,What did fire do to those servants?

Hellfire scam robbed your brain.

Janosky:
Fire destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

The city/ people no more exist, burnt to ashes, they did not experience everlasting torture.
Emusan, can you now RECEIVE SENSE?

MaxInDHouse:
There's nowhere in the Old Testament that say those destroyed are somewhere being tormented after death

so Jesus was teaching in parables.

At death the body (bones) of the dead routine in the grave so they can't possibly gnash teeth (bone)

Janosky:


MUMU ,empty RANT.
Dundee, only your brain dey see chicken for Nairaland.

Emusan:


Of course Emusan can't be part of that because he is born of God, the people the place suitable for are people like you and your lie lie jws.
.

John 3:16, Jesus Christ see's everlasting life for JWs and destruction for evildoers but Emusan see's perpetual torture.
Emusan sadist.
Kai !!!!

Emusan:


Were you inside with them to know they didn't gnashing their teeth?
.

Emusan Were you inside with them to know they gnashing their teeth till today?

Emusan,I thought God gave you brain but there is no evidence you have one.

Emusan:


The fire dressed them as king.

Remember, you're the one who donated your brain for the lying 8 old men.

Emusan:

But my point is God used fire on people
So why do you think the same God can't torment people with fire?

Emusan:

Of course the only twisting of jws, if it's not parable it will be figurative
You know more than Jesus

Janosky:
John 3:16, Jesus Christ see's everlasting life for JWs and destruction for evildoers but Emusan see's perpetual torture.
Emusan sadist.
Kai !!!!

Emusan Were you inside with them to know they gnashing their teeth till today?

Emusan,I thought God gave you brain but there is no evidence you have one.

Empty RANTS of a deluded WAILER ;

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa He destroyed that city not just humans that's what He meant @ Jeremiah 7:31.

He said tormenting humans (alive) in fire has not come into His heart.

The inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed along with all their properties, farmlands and domestic animals. So thinking God will now sustain humans in torment after death has destroyed their bodies is unscriptural!

If Jesus say he never came to condemn the prophets then i can't believe that what he said there is literal since no prophet has ever taught that the dead can experience anything! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

MaxInDHouse:


Hell means Grave!

Emusan:

Olodo....
Jer 7:13 is about sacrificing human on altar
But God used fire to do that.
So the people burnt to death won't be torment before they got burnt to ashes
As usual you lack simple comprehension.
Your initial point is that God can't torment people forever with fire but if God can use fire to destroyed a whole city, why can't God torment people with it?
That's where you left your brain.
To condemned is different from enlighten.
Jesus elaborates more on Moses teachings.
Jesus clarified issues with old prophets teachings.

Emusan:

So you don't know what you're saying.
Besides, Eccl 9:5-10 is against you but I know you'll still change mouth.
Eccl 9:5 "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten."
1. The dead has no further reward but you believe after you died Jehovah will reward you.
2. Their names are forgotten but you believe those who died and will be resurrected their names are in Jehovah memory. ;DWhich side are you?

Ken4Christ:

The brainwashing has no comparison.
Everlasting fire also means grave?
Furnace of fire also means grave?
See how Rutherford and Russell has destroyed your sense of reasoning.

MaxInDHouse:
God has a program and that is for OBEDIENT humans to enjoy life to the fullest on this planet {Genesis 1:28}

rebellious humans will become a menace on the planet so they will die and return to non-existence {Genesis 2:17}

but Adam rebelled before giving birth to a child so all his descendants inherited sin and death from him! Romans 5:12

God has no business with evildoers all He will do to them is eviction and that's to keep the planet safe for obedient mankind not keeping them somewhere to be tormented!

The dead has no business with God but out of His underserved kindness (grace) he made a provision for good people to be recalled {Job 14:13-15} but as for evildoers Ecclesiastes 9:6 applies to them! Psalms 9:17

MaxInDHouse:


There is no literal everlasting fire but complete annihilation of the wicked get it right into your skull that the Hebrew word translated Hell simply means Grave!

Emusan:

You don't need to remind me!
No! Return to God Eccl 12:6-7 "Yes, remember your Creator now while you are young, before the silver cord of life snaps and the golden bowl is broken. Don’t wait until the water jar is smashed at the spring and the pulley is broken at the well. For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it."
Says the holy scripture
But Jesus says otherwise, I know you're the liar here and not Jesus.
I know you'll Change mouth I talk am.
So Eccl 9:6 is applied to ONLY the evildoers and not good people
You need more lies to cover up a lie.
Meanwhile, the same Job 14:15 says "You will call and I will answer you; you will long for the creature your hands have made."
So how can non existence or complete dead person will hear when someone called?
When will you stop changing gear from your state of confusion?

Ken4Christ:

But Jesus used the phrase, the fire that shall never be quenched ' - Mark 9:43, 45.
Na you wan quench am?
The scripture also said that the devil will be tormented for ever and ever in the Lake of Fire Revelation 20:10.
You reject the word of God and believe what Rutherford and Russell taught you. I pity your end. You will burn in the worst part of hell.

MaxInDHouse:
Let's just say our God differs from yours!

A happy person doesn't keep malice with others {Matthew 18:22} our God is a happy person {1Timothy 1:11} He won't keep malice for long with the creatures of His own hands {Genesis 6:3} after He has taken away the breath that keeps them living! Ecclesiastes 12:7

MaxInDHouse:
Let's just say our God differs from yours!

A happy person doesn't keep malice with others {Matthew 18:22} our God is a happy person {1Timothy 1:11} He won't keep malice for long with the creatures of His own hands {Genesis 6:3}

after He has taken away the breath that keeps them living! Ecclesiastes 12:7

Kobojunkie:
1. First, the story is a parable and not meant to be literally interpreted. Second, the answer to why the rich man character in the story would end up in the Old Law Hell is found in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 32 & Ezekiel 33 vs 10 - 20. Third, in consonance with scripture, Hell for those of Old condemned to die is perishing in the grave --- they cease to exist when they die - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22.

2. What evidence do you have that proves to you that you are in fact born-again in keeping with the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ? Do you have the evidence that Jesus Christ proclaimed all who are born-again will have in John 3 vs 1 - 21, or are you of the mind that the process is whole of mental assent?

emmyskies:
■ Why did you say the story in Luke 16 is a parable?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, throughout His Gospel, employed the use of parables in teaching His followers about the Kingdom of God. From the teachings of Jesus Christ, we understand that no man has ever been granted access into the place of Eternal Reward or the place of Eternal damnation even to this day, since Jesus Christ said no man will go there until after He returns and judges the goats and sheep in His Kingdom.

emmyskies:
■ Number one, whenever JESUS speaks in parable, the Bible clearly state it down: "And He spake a parable unto them..." Rather He said: "There was a certain rich man..."
■ Secondly: Abraham is a man that lived and served GOD faithfully, he existed and cannot be made into a parable.
■ Thirdly: Before the death of Christ, righteous men who died were taken to the bosom of Abraham while unrighteous men were sent to hell.
■ JESUS gave us a clear picture of hell in several portions of the Bible.
■ Read thr Book of 1 Samuel chapter 28 and tell me what you understand from thence