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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:36pm On May 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Mourinho is a good coach but parked bus is not a tactical masterclass and it is criminal saying Mourinho is better than Pep.
did any here say that Jose is better than pep?

Even you were the one that brought pep to the argument jus to discredit Jose’s success with Roma n his coaching career as a whole

You started the comparison jus to spite the one you hate so much

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 8:38pm On May 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Actually, Zidane went to Bayern Munich to learn from Guardiola before his success in the Champions league. Who did Mourinho help? undecided
Brendan Rogers.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 8:40pm On May 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Still a student of Guardiola, Arteta gave him winning tips.

Who did Mourinho help?
He recommended Jose Ororo Paseiro to Pinnick.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 8:41pm On May 19, 2023
If you didn't know better you would think Zidane was an assistant coach to Guardiola for at least a year, whereas he was only there for a three-day visit alongside other French coaches. When he was interviewed he hailed the top management of the club first, which means he admired the organization. Zidane did not learn anything from Guardiola. If I can learn enough from someone in three days to win three consecutive CL, how many do you think that someone should have? cheesy grin
TheGoodJoe:


Actually, Zidane went to Bayern Munich to learn from Guardiola before his success in the Champions league. Who did Mourinho help? undecided

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 8:42pm On May 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


If Park the bus was efficient, Allardyce and Tony Pulis would have been top managers.
Agreed, Pep is a fantastic manager. Question to you sir, is Mourinho a top Manager?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SucroseDeport(m): 8:47pm On May 19, 2023
typicalgamer:



Old an unfit squad you say 😂

A squad where no team can boast of beating them home and away easily in the premiership

City never struggled there’s not a season you’ll see them struggle like Chelsea or Man U or Arsenal or Liverpool or tothenham did.

City was the most serial winner in 2014 upwards
The got the points
The goals and the position to back it up.
City for almost a decade now always end up in
1-2-3 and 3 is by mistake
You’re telling me that city is not consistent.
This thread is like a beer parlour, do you have sense at all bro.

Look at the picture you posted, what's the average age of city players?

Majority are 30 years, that's the squad pep inherited, an old and weak squad filled with over weight players like Yaya Toure, Nasri, clichy.

The squad that finished 4 and qualified for UCL play off thanks to West Ham.

If not for West Ham beating man United on matchday 36, city would have finished 5th.

Since pep needs to coach mid table teams to be considered as a great manager, Kuku carry am go Crystal palace.

Nonsense.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:52pm On May 19, 2023
SucroseDeport:

This thread is like a beer parlour, do you have sense at all bro.

Look at the picture you posted, what's the average age of city players?

Majority are 30 years, that's the squad pep inherited, an old and weak squad filled with over weight players like Yaya Toure, Nasri, clichy.

The squad that finished 4 and qualified for UCL play off thanks to West Ham.

If not for West Ham beating man United on matchday 36, city would have finished 5th.

Since pep needs to coach mid table teams to be considered as a great manager, Kuku carry am go Crystal palace.

Nonsense.
if the thread is beer parlour to you then delete your account and smell out
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:08pm On May 19, 2023
SucroseDeport:
I don't know how this recent Pep vs Jose debate started.

If it's Roma's UEL victory, then something is wrong with you guys.

You trolled Barcelona for getting banished to ULOPKA league, but praises Mourinho for qualifying for the same ULOPKA final.

There is a very big difference between the champions league and Europa league.

Elite coaches shouldn't be celebrating this small trophies, when teams like Barca, Madrid, Bayern get dropped to the UEL, we all knows that it's a big downfall and a big dent on the legacies of this iconic teams.
Your friend began wailing that Mourinho won poorly. He was scolded and he ran back to his normal muse, Pep

It isn't a weird thing that a club of Roma's calibre is in the UEL but it is for Barca.

Elite coaches should be able to prove their elitism in any team/league/competition they go. No?

Elite coach winning with elite team would not cause much of a stir.

But Elite coach winning with an average team. And someone wants to downplay it just because it doesn't fit his "style" of football? That's arrogance

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:11pm On May 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Influence.

Guardiola is the key. The man that changed the get and most top coaches adapted from him.

Before Guardiola, it was not played at this depth and forms the foundation of their plays.

Finito.
Pep was not even the one who started this tikitaka stuff. Arsenal Wenger did play something close during his time at Arsenal. Has Zerbi (Brighton's coach) ever worked with Pep before? We have a lot of coaches playing tikitaka and are not in anyway related to Pep.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:11pm On May 19, 2023
benji93:
If you didn't know better you would think Zidane was an assistant coach to Guardiola for at least a year, whereas he was only there for a three-day visit alongside other French coaches. When he was interviewed he hailed the top management of the club first, which means he admired the organization. Zidane did not learn anything from Guardiola. If I can learn enough from someone in three days to win three consecutive CL, how many do you think that someone should have? cheesy grin
grin Interesting...so na only 3 days and a courteous shout out this guy turn to "he learned from him"

Interesting

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:12pm On May 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


If Park the bus was efficient, Allardyce and Tony Pulis would have been top managers.
Quality bro... Quality. Tactic without the right players to carry it out is a waste.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:18pm On May 19, 2023
benji93:
If you didn't know better you would think Zidane was an assistant coach to Guardiola for at least a year, whereas he was only there for a three-day visit alongside other French coaches. When he was interviewed he hailed the top management of the club first, which means he admired the organization. Zidane did not learn anything from Guardiola. If I can learn enough from someone in three days to win three consecutive CL, how many do you think that someone should have? cheesy grin
Wow.... This is a knockout bro. grin
He just carry everybody handicap with that screenshot.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SucroseDeport(m): 9:21pm On May 19, 2023
Odunayaw:
Your friend began wailing that Mourinho won poorly. He was scolded and he ran back to his normal muse, Pep

It isn't a weird thing that a club of Roma's calibre is in the UEL but it is for Barca.

Elite coaches should be able to prove their elitism in any team/league/competition they go. No?

Elite coach winning with elite team would not cause much of a stir.

But Elite coach winning with an average team. And someone wants to downplay it just because it doesn't fit his "style" of football? That's arrogance
It's weird that a club of Barcelona's calibre is in Europa league.

But..

It isn't weird that a elite coach like Jose, a man dubbed "the special one"

Your double standard stinks bro.

The fact is that Mourinho is finished, man couldn't attract Top teams anymore, his style of play is outdated.

Teams like Bayern, Barcelona wouldn't even think of appointing Mourinho, because the tradition is at stake, the tiki taka, that's the tradition.

A special one whose team couldn't even get a shot on Target against Leverkusen, that's ridiculous... How can a lover of football be applauding Jose's style?

You guys are enemy of football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:24pm On May 19, 2023
Chilling till when this whole Pep vs Mou battle exhausts itself and rest is finally established.

Iniquity being committed everywhere.

Na wa.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 9:24pm On May 19, 2023
mostob:
Pep was not even the one who started this tikitaka stuff. Arsenal Wenger did play something close during his time at Arsenal. Has Zerbi (Brighton's coach) ever worked with Pep before? We have a lot of coaches playing tikitaka and are not in anyway related to Pep.

The Dutch invented tiki taka which was called total football then. That was the tactics that made Ajax dominate In Europe in the 70s.

Dutch,Ajax and barca legend late johan cruyff was the one who brought to barca
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:25pm On May 19, 2023
Odunayaw:
grin Interesting...so na only 3 days and a courteous shout out this guy turn to "he learned from him"

Interesting
Bro..I shock.
Which means if Salisu Yusuf say 'Hello' to Pep on Twitter, he automatically learns from Pep. God is great grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 9:26pm On May 19, 2023
mostob:
Bro..I shock.
Which means if Salisu Yusuf say 'Hello' to Pep on Twitter, he automatically learns from Pep. God is great grin grin
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:27pm On May 19, 2023
SucroseDeport:

It's weird that a club of Barcelona's calibre is in Europa league.

But..

It isn't weird that a elite coach like Jose, a man dubbed "the special one"

Your double standard stinks bro.

The fact is that Mourinho is finished, man couldn't attract Top teams anymore, his style of play is outdated.

Teams like Bayern, Barcelona wouldn't even think of appointing Mourinho, because the tradition is at stake, the tiki taka, that's the tradition.

A special one whose team couldn't even get a shot on Target against Leverkusen, that's ridiculous... How can a lover of football be applauding Jose's style?

You guys are enemy of football.
Hypocrisy? Ancelotti coached Everton. By your simple minded argument. He was finished

Next season returned to still beat Pep

Real ones applaud the result. Fan girls make useless comparisons

Now take your love and eat it for dinner

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 9:29pm On May 19, 2023
Odunayaw:
Hypocrisy?

Real ones applaud the result. Fan girls make useless comparisons

Now take your love and eat it for dinner
fan girls 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:29pm On May 19, 2023
Papi85:


The Dutch invented tiki taka which was called total football then. That was the tactics that made Ajax dominate In Europe in the 70s.

Dutch,Ajax and barca legend johan cruyff was the one who brought to barca
Thank you bro... which means Pep invented his own tikitaka variety. But our man sha wan force it down our throat that anybody that plays tikitaka is one of Pep's students. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:29pm On May 19, 2023
SucroseDeport:

This thread is like a beer parlour, do you have sense at all bro.

Look at the picture you posted, what's the average age of city players?

Majority are 30 years, that's the squad pep inherited, an old and weak squad filled with over weight players like Yaya Toure, Nasri, clichy.

The squad that finished 4 and qualified for UCL play off thanks to West Ham.

If not for West Ham beating man United on matchday 36, city would have finished 5th.

Since pep needs to coach mid table teams to be considered as a great manager, Kuku carry am go Crystal palace.

Nonsense.
I hate illiteracy
Same old weak players and some of them played more than extra 2 seasons before departing
My point still stands city had a bad year that’s all there is to it
Nothing about player age or overweight city had a bad year Simple and they do the needful which is make overhaul on the team

You open your mouth Wahh like the foolish man that you’re a stupid illiterate
70% of the overweight and old squad was retained for the next season and you open your mouth to talk rubbish

I no do beer parlor please if na drunkard you be carry am go front

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:30pm On May 19, 2023
SucroseDeport:

It's weird that a club of Barcelona's calibre is in Europa league.

But..

It isn't weird that a elite coach like Jose, a man dubbed "the special one"

Your double standard stinks bro.

The fact is that Mourinho is finished, man couldn't attract Top teams anymore, his style of play is outdated.

Teams like Bayern, Barcelona wouldn't even think of appointing Mourinho, because the tradition is at stake, the tiki taka, that's the tradition.

A special one whose team couldn't even get a shot on Target against Leverkusen, that's ridiculous... How can a lover of football be applauding Jose's style?

You guys are enemy of football.
Who told you Mourinho is finished and that he wouldn't attract a top club? If he shows interest in that Chelsea job, Boehly will end things with Poch and embrace Mourinho.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 9:31pm On May 19, 2023
mostob:
Thank you bro... which means Pep invented his own tikitaka variety. But our man sha wan force it down our throat that anybody that plays tikitaka is one of Pep's students. grin
Pep perfected it by having the luxury of players that made it work during he’s time at barca

The reason why he goes all out to get highly skilled possession based players to any club he went

For tikitaka to work you need highly skilled and intelligent footballers starting from the goal keeper which is the main reason why ball playing goal minders are in high demand in this era

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:33pm On May 19, 2023
mostob:
Quality bro... Quality. Tactic without the right players to carry it out is a waste.

Kompany got Burnley playing brilliantly. No excuse. To play dross.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:34pm On May 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Mourinho is a good coach but parked bus is not a tactical masterclass and it is criminal saying Mourinho is better than Pep.

History does not remember losers

Nobody remembered the style of play of the clubs that lost to mourinho in his finals Simple as abc

It doesn’t have to look pretty get the victory at the end of the day that’s all that matters

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:35pm On May 19, 2023
mostob:
Bro..I shock.
Which means if Salisu Yusuf say 'Hello' to Pep on Twitter, he automatically learns from Pep. God is great grin grin
grin The Moroccan coach he said learned from Pep (via Zoom grin) parked the bus when needed at WC but he'd turn a blind eye.

Pep this, bulaba that

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:36pm On May 19, 2023
Odunayaw:
grin The Moroccan coach he said learned from Pep (via Zoom grin) parked the bus when needed at WC but he'd turn a blind eye.

Pep this, bulaba that
That's it bro. grin grin
How can a student of Pep be packing the bus?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 9:36pm On May 19, 2023
Odunayaw:
grin The Moroccan coach he said learned from Pep (via Zoom grin) parked the bus when needed at WC but he'd turn a blind eye.

Pep this, bulaba that
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:40pm On May 19, 2023
mostob:
Pep was not even the one who started this tikitaka stuff. Arsenal Wenger did play something close during his time at Arsenal. Has Zerbi (Brighton's coach) ever worked with Pep before? We have a lot of coaches playing tikitaka and are not in anyway related to Pep.

Influence. Even De Zerbi is influenced by Pep Guardiola. Guardiola made it an art and many have studied his methods. Guardiola has books and videos and most of them, if not all of them are learning his methods. He changed the game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:41pm On May 19, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Kompany got Burnley playing brilliantly. No excuse. To play dross.
So you're comparing Championship to EPL? Luton, a team whose stadium is not bigger than one primary school football field will probably be playing in EPL next season. Did you expect this at the start of the season?
Can you guarantee Burnley will survive EPL relegation next season with their brilliant play? The fact is that Big Sam and Pulis will only fight to stay up with the kind of team the manage.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:42pm On May 19, 2023
typicalgamer:


History does not remember losers

Nobody remembered the style of play of the clubs that lost to mourinho in his finals Simple as abc

It doesn’t have to look pretty get the victory at the end of the day that’s all that matters

My point is simple. Poor tactical play might win games and titles to earn praise. But bright tactical play leads to dominance after a long time.

Sagna worked with De Zerbi and saw his coaching methods similar to what Pep Guardiola was doing in Manchester City and pointed he was destined for the top. It is bright tactics that does this. Park bus will not lead to dominance.

Simplito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:43pm On May 19, 2023
mostob:
So you're comparing Championship to EPL? Luton, a team whose stadium is not bigger than one primary school football field will probably be playing in EPL next season. Did you expect this at the start of the season?
Can you guarantee Burnley will survive EPL relegation next season with their brilliant play? The fact is that Big Sam and Pulis will only fight to stay up with the kind of team the manage.

I believe Kompany will excel next season. Burnley will do well.

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