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The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by SummaryChannel: 3:08pm On May 21, 2023
The fall of Bakhmut | The West is in a difficult position after the fall of Bakhmut before the Ukrainian counterattack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJrTk0Ej_mQ

Beginning with Bakhmut, which the Russian Wagner Group finally declared its full control over, after a battle that lasted for about 10 months, which is considered the longest and fiercest ever since the outbreak of the Russian-Ukrainian war in February of last year. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a press conference he held with US President Joe Biden on the sidelines of the G7 summit meetings currently taking place in the Japanese city of Hiroshima that Bakhmut now only exists in the hearts of Ukrainians after its complete destruction at the hands of Russian forces.

The episode presents the full details of the Battle of Bakhmut from its inception until its final fall, while revealing its definite effects on the morale of the Ukrainian army prior to the launch of the counterattack. Conversely, the Russian army, which now has a strategic base in Bakhmut, enables it to launch in the direction of western Ukraine.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense said that the Russian forces have taken control of some new sites inside Bakhmut, stressing that the fighting continues inside the city..Ukrainian sources added that the Russian forces are trying to regain the areas they lost in the vicinity of Bakhmut..This comes as the head of the Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, revealed that Control of the city will not be in the coming days.

On the other hand, the episode indicates that the United States of America, along with its European allies, continues to plan to send F-16 fighters to the Ukrainian army to use them in the upcoming counterattack, despite the dire consequences that Russia threatened if the matter was completed.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Hhansome(m): 3:23pm On May 21, 2023
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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kenneth4u205(m): 3:28pm On May 21, 2023
TINUBU responsible for the fall .bad luck and failures befalling Ukraine after their president call TINUBU on phone
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by TheBillyonaire: 4:03pm On May 21, 2023
When you make jesters and comedians your President, Ukraine is what you have. Do not be like Ukraine, comedians are court jesters and should be encouraged to be better comedians.

When you make a footballer your President, Liberia is what you have. If you make a 'known drug lord (according to Reno Omokri) your President, you will have surprising positive outcome, after-all drug lords know the pains of being poor, since most drug lords came from poor homes. grin

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Gaabasky: 4:07pm On May 21, 2023
Like Dino's song. Ajekun iye nio je, eni ti o to ni lu to tun wa dina de ni.

The person wey no even worth your struggle to beat and blocking your way to fight, no be wahala him dey find?
We warned Ukraine not to listen to US but failed

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by nairalanda1(m): 5:24pm On May 21, 2023
LOL

See these people backing the invasion of Ukraine....yet when America does same, America is evil.

LOOK...better not back any side in this war. What Russia is doing is wrong. At the same time, NATO too should respect other people's borders. And Ukraine too has the right not to be anyone's bi***h, ditto Iraq, Iran,Libya, and many other countries.

Iraq part 2 woke me up. Since then, I have not backed any global power...be it America, Russia and China.

Better not back Russia this time. Like America, if they decide bombing Nigeria is in their interest, they will do it.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Betanaija42moro: 5:25pm On May 21, 2023
Says a confused man from Nigeria
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Brek: 7:23pm On May 21, 2023
nairalanda1:
LOL

See these people backing the invasion of Ukraine....yet when America does same, America is evil.

LOOK...better not back any side in this war. What Russia is doing is wrong. At the same time, NATO too should respect other people's borders. And Ukraine too has the right not to be anyone's bi***h, ditto Iraq, Iran,Libya, and many other countries.

Iraq part 2 woke me up. Since then, I have not backed any global power...be it America, Russia and China.

Better not back Russia this time. Like America, if they decide bombing Nigeria is in their interest, they will do it.
THANKYOU
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by paramakina202: 7:28pm On May 21, 2023
Ukraine best NATO trained soldiers wasted in the battle to defend Bahkmut.
Congrats to Oga Putin.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by JagabanBorgu: 7:34pm On May 21, 2023
nairalanda1:
LOL

See these people backing the invasion of Ukraine....yet when America does same, America is evil.

LOOK...better not back any side in this war. What Russia is doing is wrong. At the same time, NATO too should respect other people's borders. And Ukraine too has the right not to be anyone's bi***h, ditto Iraq, Iran,Libya, and many other countries.

Iraq part 2 woke me up. Since then, I have not backed any global power...be it America, Russia and China.

Better not back Russia this time. Like America, if they decide bombing Nigeria is in their interest, they will do it.
But America will back Morocco to seize Western Sahara because America wants them to make peace with Saudi?
America is right to invade other countries but crimïñïIize other nations who do same.
Even when it's obvious that America led Ukraine to the slaughter.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by nairalanda1(m): 7:37am On May 22, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

But America will back Morocco to seize Western Sahara because America wants them to make peace with Saudi?
America is right to invade other countries but crimïñïIize other nations who do same.
Even when it's obvious that America led Ukraine to the slaughter.

LOL....I am telling you that the US is just as wrong as Russia to invade other nations.

Look, don't cheer for any invasion by anyone. Simple.

What Russia is doing is as wrong as the US invading Iraq and Morocco invading Western Sahara.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 8:43am On May 22, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

But America will back Morocco to seize Western Sahara because America wants them to make peace with Saudi?
America is right to invade other countries but crimïñïIize other nations who do same.
Even when it's obvious that America led Ukraine to the slaughter.

Russia attacked Ukraine, Ukraine was unwilling to cede any part of their territory to Russia. simple.

Die this America led Ukraine to slaughter, both are in the slaughter. If anything Ukraine proved they are not cowards. if the US/West wanted war in the first place they would have admitted Ukraine into NATO. And if they did, the war would completely be different cos NATO personnel's and latest tech would be on ground
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 8:46am On May 22, 2023
nairalanda1:


LOL....I am telling you that the US is just as wrong as Russia to invade other nations.

Look, don't cheer for any invasion by anyone. Simple.

What Russia is doing is as wrong as the US invading Iraq and Morocco invading Western Sahara.


They just hate the US nothing more. They Support Russia cos they think Russia is fighting against the US. And their justification is the US has also invaded other nations but Russia doing the invasion now is doing the Lord's work. no mind them
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by nairalanda1(m): 8:51am On May 22, 2023
Tiopii:



They just hate the US nothing more. They Support Russia cos they think Russia is fighting against the US. And their justification is the US has also invaded other nations but Russia doing the invasion now is doing the Lord's work. no mind them


US is just as bad as rossiya. They both invade other countries if it suits their interests.

Nigerians should back neither

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 8:53am On May 22, 2023
Gaabasky:
Like Dino's song. Ajekun iye nio je, eni ti o to ni lu to tun wa dina de ni.

The person wey no even worth your struggle to beat and blocking your way to fight, no be wahala him dey find?
We warned Ukraine not to listen to US but failed

Fight don finish? Is Bakmut the last junction? Took Russia over 7 months to capture Bakmut and you think Russia has arrived. Russia's attack potential has reached the peak, and Ukraine's counter offensive would be starting soon.

Wagner would be withdrawing soon and you think it's a victory?? Only Wagner claim to have captured Bakmut and this isn't the first time we're hearing them saying it.

Russia as it stands can't conduct any meaningful offensive and with the Russia regular coming in, no one expects it to last, Russia would try to slow down the counter offensive as much as possible. hopefully the new American toys would help out alot
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 9:12am On May 22, 2023
nairalanda1:



US is just as bad as rossiya. They both invade other countries if it suits their interests.

Nigerians should back neither


Nigerians are mainly commentators, nobody is fighting for Ukraine or Russia. we are just speculating on how the war could turn out to be.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:56am On May 22, 2023
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F18 crashed in Spain😂
2022:
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F16V crashed in Taiwan 😂
F35C crashed in south China sea😂
Mar: F16 crashed in Louisiana(US)😂

2021

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2020:
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F35 crashed in US😂
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Dec: F16 crashed in Michigan

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by JagabanBorgu: 2:34pm On May 22, 2023
Tiopii:


Russia attacked Ukraine, Ukraine was unwilling to cede any part of their territory to Russia. simple.

Die this America led Ukraine to slaughter, both are in the slaughter. If anything Ukraine proved they are not cowards. if the US/West wanted war in the first place they would have admitted Ukraine into NATO. And if they did, the war would completely be different cos NATO personnel's and latest tech would be on ground
US is playing the saint.
Absorbing Ukraine will make them Iosé the saint standing.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Taba21: 3:14pm On May 22, 2023
SummaryChannel:
The fall of Bakhmut | The West is in a difficult position after the fall of Bakhmut before the Ukrainian counterattack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJrTk0Ej_mQ

Beginning with Bakhmut, which the Russian Wagner Group finally declared its full control over, after a battle that lasted for about 10 months, which is considered the longest and fiercest ever since the outbreak of the Russian-Ukrainian war in February of last year. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a press conference he held with US President Joe Biden on the sidelines of the G7 summit meetings currently taking place in the Japanese city of Hiroshima that Bakhmut now only exists in the hearts of Ukrainians after its complete destruction at the hands of Russian forces.

The episode presents the full details of the Battle of Bakhmut from its inception until its final fall, while revealing its definite effects on the morale of the Ukrainian army prior to the launch of the counterattack. Conversely, the Russian army, which now has a strategic base in Bakhmut, enables it to launch in the direction of western Ukraine.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense said that the Russian forces have taken control of some new sites inside Bakhmut, stressing that the fighting continues inside the city..Ukrainian sources added that the Russian forces are trying to regain the areas they lost in the vicinity of Bakhmut..This comes as the head of the Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, revealed that Control of the city will not be in the coming days.

On the other hand, the episode indicates that the United States of America, along with its European allies, continues to plan to send F-16 fighters to the Ukrainian army to use them in the upcoming counterattack, despite the dire consequences that Russia threatened if the matter was completed.

American and her alliance are coward.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Taba21: 3:16pm On May 22, 2023
nairalanda1:
LOL

See these people backing the invasion of Ukraine....yet when America does same, America is evil.

LOOK...better not back any side in this war. What Russia is doing is wrong. At the same time, NATO too should respect other people's borders. And Ukraine too has the right not to be anyone's bi***h, ditto Iraq, Iran,Libya, and many other countries.

Iraq part 2 woke me up. Since then, I have not backed any global power...be it America, Russia and China.

Better not back Russia this time. Like America, if they decide bombing Nigeria is in their interest, they will do it.

Look at this one, keep quiet and listen to sophisticated people.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Taba21: 3:17pm On May 22, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

But America will back Morocco to seize Western Sahara because America wants them to make peace with Saudi?
America is right to invade other countries but crimïñïIize other nations who do same.
Even when it's obvious that America led Ukraine to the slaughter.

Next time tell him to keep quiet.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by nairalanda1(m): 3:19pm On May 22, 2023
Taba21:


Look at this one, keep quiet and listen to sophisticated people.

You can make fun of me or abuse me, but at the end of the day, if Biden or Putin thinks that your village must be bombed because it serves their country's interest, they will do it.

You very rightly criticse America for invading and bombing countries, but when Russia does the same, you say they are doing the right thing.

Ok o.

It is better countries do not invade other countries. When Bush bomed Iraq, he was WRONG. When putin bombs Ukraine, he too is WRONG.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 6:17pm On May 22, 2023
JagabanBorgu:
US is playing the saint. Absorbing Ukraine will make them Iosé the saint standing.
absorbing Ukraine, I don't understand
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by JagabanBorgu: 8:23pm On May 22, 2023
Tiopii:


absorbing Ukraine, I don't understand
Absorbing Ukraine into NATO, I thought u were d one who made that statement, why getting confused.
U know they made a deal with Russia about that.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 9:13pm On May 22, 2023
nairalanda1:


LOL....I am telling you that the US is just as wrong as Russia to invade other nations.

Look, don't cheer for any invasion by anyone. Simple.

What Russia is doing is as wrong as the US invading Iraq and Morocco invading Western Sahara.


Where was your voice when Ukraine was killing the people of donbass? Russia warned , raised it with UN nations but they did nothing. So what do you want Russia to do? Allow the Azov Nazis in Ukraine continue to kill the people in donbass? Knowing fully well what Nazi Germany did to USSR during the ww2 . Russia is not stupid. The only people at fault here is NATO, they sponsored a coup in Ukraine 2014 and installed their puppet zelensky and have been training Ukrainian soldiers and equipping them since then. NATO deliberately rejected Russia's peace talk (Minsk agreement) to buy Ukraine enough time to go to war with Russia. The war has come now, they will know what Russia is made of.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:33pm On May 22, 2023
Adjovi:



Where was your voice when Ukraine was killing the people of donbass? Russia warned , raised it with UN nations but they did nothing. So what do you want Russia to do? Allow the Azov Nazis in Ukraine continue to kill the people in donbass? Knowing fully well what Nazi Germany did to USSR during the ww2 . Russia is not stupid. The only people at fault here is NATO, they sponsored a coup in Ukraine 2014 and installed their puppet zelensky and have been training Ukrainian soldiers and equipping them since then. NATO deliberately rejected Russia's peace talk (Minsk agreement) to buy Ukraine enough time to go to war with Russia. The war has come now, they will know what Russia is made of.

I showed USA fans BBC Documentary Nazism in Ukraine and even with the evidence they still refuse to believe that Ukraine has Nazism groups in the military

Once you like USA even if they kill one million people in your village it won't bother you that how USA fans think.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Adjovi: 9:47pm On May 22, 2023
Kingsnairaland:


I showed USA fans BBC Documentary Nazism in Ukraine and even with the evidence they still refuse to believe that Ukraine has Nazism groups in the military

Once you like USA even if they kill one million people in your village it won't bother you that how USA fans think.


Don't mind all of them . Even before Russia invaded, mainstream medias admitted that there were Nazis in Ukraine (azov) all of a sudden they have started supporting them because it is against Russia. Same NATO led USA that sponsored Isis in a bid to remove Assads government in Syria but thanks to Russia Assad was rescued.... If only Putin was the president of Russia when NATO invaded Libya , Gaddafi would still be alive by now

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 11:29am On May 23, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

Absorbing Ukraine into NATO, I thought u were d one who made that statement, why getting confused.
U know they made a deal with Russia about that.

Oh. I did. Absorb isn't the right word. Ukraine wants to join NATO, joining NATO, Ukraine would still retain Their sovereignty, territory,culture and etc. Russia is trying to absorb Ukraine, wants them to cede their territory and install a pro Russia govt.

There's no saint standing. Most of the former USSR states all applied to join the NATO. It wasn't like they did some military action. if Russia is as good as they claim, why are most of the former Soviet seeking refuge with the NATO.

The issue isn't NATO absorbing any nation, the issue is why are former USSR states seeking protection from NATO against Russia. NATO is a defensive alliance, you have to attack them for them to retaliate
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 11:35am On May 23, 2023
Adjovi:



Don't mind all of them . Even before Russia invaded, mainstream medias admitted that there were Nazis in Ukraine (azov) all of a sudden they have started supporting them because it is against Russia. Same NATO led USA that sponsored Isis in a bid to remove Assads government in Syria but thanks to Russia Assad was rescued.... If only Putin was the president of Russia when NATO invaded Libya , Gaddafi would still be alive by now


As Nigerians, we know there are terrorists in the Nigerian Army, cos we hear of terrorists ambushing the Nigerians soldiers. it is a local problem or national problem.

Cos we have this issues doesn't mean other nations would come and interfer in our issues especially without invitation. there's no perfect state, all states are in the process transformation.

The same way it's a Nigerian problem, is the same way the Nazis in Ukraine is a local problem. Even the US still has fragment of KKK, so does it mean other nations should interfer in their local problems?.

The US/West were wrong in the past esp in Libya and Iran, no need to hide the truth, the same way they were wrong is the same way Russia is wrong for using Ukraine local problem as a pretext to invade.. The Nazis in Ukraine is not the problem of Russia, it's a Ukraine problem.

It is the US invading Nigeria cos of corruption or oil theft. E no concern them
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by JagabanBorgu: 12:01pm On May 23, 2023
Tiopii:


Oh. I did. Absorb isn't the right word. Ukraine wants to join NATO, joining NATO, Ukraine would still retain Their sovereignty, territory,culture and etc. Russia is trying to absorb Ukraine, wants them to cede their territory and install a pro Russia govt.

There's no saint standing. Most of the former USSR states all applied to join the NATO. It wasn't like they did some military action. if Russia is as good as they claim, why are most of the former Soviet seeking refuge with the NATO.

The issue isn't NATO absorbing any nation, the issue is why are former USSR states seeking protection from NATO against Russia. NATO is a defensive alliance, you have to attack them for them to retaliate
Russia is the agressor now, and they became agressive for no reason.
NATO is not a defensive alliance, it's an alliance of buIIies who do whatever they want, use their media houses to justify and get away with it and still come back to crûcîfy others for doing same thing.
Why did America back Morocco in the annexation of Western Sahara if they believe what Russia is doing is wrong?
Why did they invade Libya to kiII their leader, is Libya not a sovereign nation?
Why did NATO invade IRAQ and killed Hussein?
What were they doing in Afghanistan for 20 years?
Same thing Russia is doing is exactly what America is doing.
The difference between America and Russia right now is that America is trying so hard to convince the world to follow them as the saints while they demonize China and Russia.
Every blessed day on Quora, u see Americans, British and French people demonizing Russia and China.
NATO is defensive alliance my foot.
NATO is an association of buIIies.
Whatever their members do, is rîght.
US installed a pro American government in Ukraine, they did the right thing?
The Luhansk and and Donetsk region were seeking sovereignty from Ukraine shows u what Ukraine is.

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Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Kingsnairaland(m): 12:07pm On May 23, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

Russia is the agressor now, and they became agressive for no reason.
NATO is not a defensive alliance, it's an alliance of buIIies who do whatever they want, use their media houses to justify and get away with it and still come back to crûcîfy others for doing same thing.
Why did America back Morocco in the annexation of Western Sahara if they believe what Russia is doing is wrong?
Why did they invade Libya to kiII their leader, is Libya not a sovereign nation?
Why did NATO invade IRAQ and killed Hussein?
What were they doing in Afghanistan for 20 years?
Same thing Russia is doing is exactly what America is doing.
The difference between America and Russia right now is that America is trying so hard to convince the world to follow them as the saints while they demonize China and Russia.
Every blessed day on Quora, u see Americans, British and French people demonizing Russia and China.
NATO is defensive alliance my foot.
NATO is an association of buIIies.
Whatever their members do, is rîght.
US installed a pro American government in Ukraine, they did the right thing?
The Luhansk and and Donetsk region were seeking sovereignty from Ukraine shows u what Ukraine is.
exactly.
Re: The Fall Of Bakhmut | The West Is In A Difficult Position After Bakhmout Fall by Tiopii: 12:34pm On May 23, 2023
JagabanBorgu:

Russia is the agressor now, and they became agressive for no reason.
NATO is not a defensive alliance, it's an alliance of buIIies who do whatever they want, use their media houses to justify and get away with it and still come back to crûcîfy others for doing same thing.
Why did America back Morocco in the annexation of Western Sahara if they believe what Russia is doing is wrong?
Why did they invade Libya to kiII their leader, is Libya not a sovereign nation?
Why did NATO invade IRAQ and killed Hussein?
What were they doing in Afghanistan for 20 years?
Same thing Russia is doing is exactly what America is doing.
The difference between America and Russia right now is that America is trying so hard to convince the world to follow them as the saints while they demonize China and Russia.
Every blessed day on Quora, u see Americans, British and French people demonizing Russia and China.
NATO is defensive alliance my foot.
NATO is an association of buIIies.
Whatever their members do, is rîght.
US installed a pro American government in Ukraine, they did the right thing?
The Luhansk and and Donetsk region were seeking sovereignty from Ukraine shows u what Ukraine is.


The US was wrong, same way Russia is wrong in the Ukraine war. Same way there's no sense to justify US actions, same way no sense to justify Russia action in Ukraine.

The Luhansk and Donetsk republic is another issue, Russia sponsored the separatists there and there are standard process to follow if a region wants sovereignty. Russia has no business in those regions, like I said it's a local issue and demands local solution. Russia has no right to grant independence to a region in a sovereign country. And after the independence Russia has legislation to absorb them into Russua. Russia just hoped to bully Ukraine to cede territories and it isn't working out fine so far. Every state is a state in process, no state has reached it's final form.

Russia has been doing what you accuse the US. Moldova, Georgia and now Ukraine.

The victim in all these is Ukraine, but they are not the usual victim we are used to, they have decided to fight for their sovereignty. After the war regardless of outcome, Ukraine would be stronger and prosperous than it has ever being.

NATO didn't invade Iraq, the US did. NATO has never attacked any nation.

The demonization is vice versa. All of them are doing it to each other

Same Russia has been in Georgia for 15yrs and no one Isa saying anything about it.

While the US/West are not the usual good guys neither is Russia, but in this Ukraine war, The US/West are the good guys in relation to Ukraine's future and sovereignty

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