fergie001:

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garfield1:


Which mistake? Tinubu will do very well if you look beyond his alleged weaknesses and biases.my mantra is a southerner or nothing

Well, I agree with you that Tinubu will perform; beyond expectations sef.

But he will still wanna enrich himself and his cronies which is why I prefer Obi.

Again, whatever Tinubu can do, Obi can do it better by 100 folds.

Penguin2:


Well, I agree with you that Tinubu will perform; beyond expectations sef.

But he will still wanna enrich himself and his cronies which is why I prefer Obi.

Again, whatever Tinubu can do, Obi can do it better by 100 folds.

Obi performance wasn't superlative in anambra,it was at best above average.obi does not have the clout to hold Nigeria's multiple ethnicities,differences,cultures.he is anoda gej/osibanjo.tinubu's tact in governing Lagos,moulding together a party to scratch and eventually emerging president shows he can manage nigeria.
Almost every politician will steal or loot,the issue is what are your performances? Obi is financially stingy like buhari and we may experience cash crunch like buhari regime

chivic:


It comes alive with more life.it makes the job of the appeal court easy.But he will still need to prove that he had the highest lawful vote.( This means he scored higher than even Tinubu) in proving it,he will exceed Atiku.

Obi case at tribunal is against tinubu.if atiku wins,the case dies as tinubu is the original respondent not atiku and time for amendment has lapsed

fergie001:
Garba and Agim must be on the panel.

Since okoro is the head,mostly junior judges will be there like Helen,garba,agim,jauro,etc If agim is there,he will write the lead judgment and based on rulings in pdp vs oyetola (pre election) and jegede vs aketi,we can decipher something

tinsel:
What is difference between Lawan/Akpabio and this one? When the Supreme had already ruled on Lawan and Akpabio cases.

fergie001 and Garfield1
This is where SC will make reference from.

Kyase:
fergie001 and Garfield1
This is where SC will make reference from.

They won't.the double nominations of lawan and akpabio wasn't questioned

garfield1:


They won't.the double nominations of lawan and akpabio wasn't questioned

Lawan double nomination was questioned
Go read the case again

I don't know of akpabio

fergie001:
It cannot work. Pre-hearing ended today, cannot be ended, will be struck out.


It is a pre-election matter, and don't think the PEPT can handle same.

I beg to differ sir.
On your first issue, where a SC's judgment affects the petition at the tribunal, the court cannot strike out the petitioners petition. That would be tantamount to telling an aggrieved party to go home without being heared. Such action will violate section 6(6) (b) & (c) of the constitution. Every case it's decided based on it's peculiar circumstances.

If you had argued that the petitioners on record may be asked to file a fresh petition, to suit the assumed present situation, I would have agreed with you to a reasonable extent.
In summary, the outcome of the SC's decision cannot warrant the striking out of the petition, without been heared to the end.

On your 2nd issue, there are pre-election matters that can still be brought by a post election suit. E.g, the issue of qualification, which is the subject of the extant appeal at the SC.

To throw more light on this, when an issue of qualification is to be brought by way of a pre-election matter, it must be either a party member or an aspirant in the primary election of the said party, that has the locus standi to institute same. Where any other person or political party institutes it, he would be more regarded as a meddlesome interloper. But, a candidate in an election or a political party, can institute an action based on grounds of disqualification, only if the general election has been held and a winner returned. In that case, the petition would be clothed with the requisite jurisdiction.

fergie001:
It cannot work. Pre-hearing ended today, cannot be ended, will be struck out.


It is a pre-election matter, and don't think the PEPT can handle same.

Pept have jurisdiction on qualification issues to an extent.you once stated that those qualification issues must relate to the constitution but atiku citizenship is constitutional and was seen as a civil case

Kyase:


Lawan double nomination was questioned
Go read the case again

I don't know of akpabio

The case was thrown away based on technicalities so the merits wasn't tackled

garfield1:


The case was thrown away based on technicalities so the merits wasn't tackled

Friday case will be thrown out
Just relax your mind

garfield1:


Obi performance wasn't superlative in anambra,it was at best above average.obi does not have the clout to hold Nigeria's multiple ethnicities,differences,cultures.he is anoda gej/osibanjo.tinubu's tact in governing Lagos,moulding together a party to scratch and eventually emerging president shows he can manage nigeria.
Almost every politician will steal or loot,the issue is what are your performances? Obi is financially stingy like buhari and we may experience cash crunch like buhari regime

If you know how Obi met Anambra and how he left it, you would know why Anambra people worship him, and why you should never downplay his works in Anambra.

Meanwhile, Obi has the tact and connections to hold Nigeria together better than Tinubu will ever do.

Obi is a no-nonsense character that you can’t compare to GEJ who is meek and always wants to make everyone happy.

Obi is in a class of his own abeg.

garfield1:


Pept have jurisdiction on qualification issues to an extent.you once stated that those qualification issues must relate to the constitution but atiku citizenship is constitutional and was seen as a civil case

Yes when it touches on the Constitutional eligibility requirements of the Candidate.

The citizenship issues does.... S182.

What he meant was that if peradventure Tinubu is disqualified, that Obi can amend his appeal to include the 1st runner-up which is not possible.

IGBOGENE27:


I beg to differ sir.
On your first issue, where a SC's judgment affects the petition at the tribunal, the court cannot strike out the petitioners petition. That would be tantamount to telling an aggrieved party to go home without being heared. Such action will violate section 6(6) (b) & (c) of the constitution. Every case it's decided based on it's peculiar circumstances.

If you had argued that the petitioners on record may be asked to file a fresh petition, to suit the assumed present situation, I would have agreed with you to a reasonable extent.
In summary, the outcome of the SC's decision cannot warrant the striking out of the petition, without been heared to the end.

On your 2nd issue, there are pre-election matters that can still be brought by a post election suit. E.g, the issue of qualification, which is the subject of the extant appeal at the SC.

To throw more light on this, when an issue of qualification is to be brought by way of a pre-election matter, it must be either a party member or an aspirant in the primary election of the said party, that has the locus standi to institute same. Where any other person or political party institutes it, he would be more regarded as a meddlesome interloper. But, a candidate in an election or a political party, can institute an action based on grounds of disqualification, only if the general election has been held and a winner returned. In that case, the petition would be clothed with the requisite jurisdiction.

My brother,you are legally sound.you should be commenting more.
While it appears that pre election cases are now a party affair,dont you think the electoral act left a small window for candidates to challenge few cases like in this case as it wasn't covered under section 29?

Penguin2:


If you know how Obi met Anambra and how he left it, you would know why Anambra people worship him, and why you should never downplay his works in Anambra.

Meanwhile, Obi has the tact and connections to hold Nigeria together better than Tinubu will ever do.

Obi is a no-nonsense character that you can’t compare to GEJ who is meek and always wants to make everyone happy.

Obi is in a class of his own abeg.

Ngige was doing well before his godfgdathers struck.buhari is a no-nonsense fellow,look at where it got us.obi is average,umahi is far far better while obi is overhyped and exaggerated.we need someone who will take the economy to pre gej era,make cash flow not someone who hardly release funds.
Obi doesnt have friends nationwide,he is not liberal minded and too tribalized.he doesnt command national respect and fear

Nice2023:
E go choke...now u will see them trying to bribe the judges.

It is only in Nigeria people like Lawal,Akpabio could be returned to power when it is obvious they all bought presidential ticket still ran for the same office amounting to double nomination.

I wonder the kind of judges we have in this country.

Our judiciary is fcked

garfield1:


Ngige was doing well before his godfgdathers struck.buhari is a no-nonsense fellow,look at where it got us.obi is average,umahi is far far better while obi is overhyped and exaggerated.we need someone who will take the economy to pre gej era,make cash flow not someone who hardly release funds.
Obi doesnt have friends nationwide,he is not liberal minded and too tribalized.he doesnt command national respect and fear

In a nutshell, you want someone that will “share the money”.

And look at you choosing Umahi over Obi🤦

For your information, Umahi can’t walk through the streets of Abakaliki without security without getting stoned. But not so with Obi.

You just have a rigid assessment of Obi which is overly flawed.

Penguin2:


In a nutshell, you want someone that will “share the money”.

And look at you choosing Umahi over Obi🤦

For your information, Umahi can’t walk through the streets of Abakaliki without security without getting stoned. But not so with Obi.

You just have a rigid assessment of Obi which is overly flawed.

Infrastructure and human devt is key to development of any state.obi started paying gratuities when he was harassed in church,doctors went on strike under him.the roads ngige did outlasted obi's

IGBOGENE27:

There is a strong merit in your argument, if the SC upholds Atiku, the 21 days begins to count from the day of the declaration of that judgement. (This impeaches my earlier position)

cc garfield1 penguin2

On your 2nd issue, there are pre-election matters that can still be brought by a post election suit. E.g, the issue of qualification, which is the subject of the extant appeal at the SC.

To throw more light on this, when an issue of qualification is to be brought by way of a pre-election matter, it must be either a party member or an aspirant in the primary election of the said party, that has the locus standi to institute same. Where any other person or political party institutes it, he would be more regarded as a meddlesome interloper. But, a candidate in an election or a political party, can institute an action based on grounds of disqualification, only if the general election has been held and a winner returned. In that case, the petition would be clothed with the requisite jurisdiction.

The new Electoral Act conforms that pre-election will only come through Sections 29(5) and 84(14). In both situations, only an aspirant has that locus, unless they say otherwise on Friday.

Issues of disqualifications are pre-election matters:
Shettima's double nomination does not touch on the Constitutional Eligibility Requirements of his Candidacy. It's a product of the Electoral Act and pre-election.

Issues of forgery, citizenship and so might be looked into at the PEPT not double nomination which is wholly pre-election.

A collective reading into Abdulrauf Abdulkadir Modibbo v. Mustapha Usman, APC v. Aliyu Suleiman Lere; our Courts classified the following issues as Pre-Election.

nomination of a candidate
double nomination of a candidate
disqualification of a candidate
wrongful substitution of a successful candidate’s name by INEC complaints about the conduct of primaries
false declaration on oath about particulars of a candidate.

In all of these, none touches on items in the CFRN.

I believe it is clearly a pre-election matter. In a nutshell, Tinubu's false declaration suit as well as Shettima's double nomination are merely academic before the tribunal (to my understanding).

Penguin2:

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I have edited and mentioned you, my position is wrong.

garfield1:
Since okoro is the head,mostly junior judges will be there like Helen,garba,agim,jauro,etc If agim is there,he will write the lead judgment and based on rulings in pdp vs oyetola (pre election) and jegede vs aketi,we can decipher something

It can only go one way.

Minime10:


It's like u are too daft to see the cited case of Imo State, where the Apex Court had ruled againt Mr. Uche Nwosu on the basis of his double nomination.
And maybe because of your daftness, you could not also heard that it was someone from another party that had draged him to Court over double nomination. Dey play first🙄

I do not understand why you have to state your daddy is daft because of my opinion which the Federal High Court and Appeal Court fully align with

SpecialAdviser:
What about the Abuja 25%. When is that one?

June 2027

You go wait tire
You better wipe away your tears and move on

garfield1:


If tinubu is disq,obi court case is dead

It's not completely dead. He will then move to claiming his votes fraudulently apportioned to Tinubu. If successful, your guess is as good as mine.

a4cube:
It's not completely dead. He will then move to claiming his votes fraudulently apportioned to Tinubu. If successful, your guess is as good as mine.

It is.even if nothing happens in Friday,obi will still lose

fergie001:
It can only go one way.

Let us just prepare for any eventuality and surprises.the cabal and atiku might be pulling strings

garfield1:
Let us just prepare for any eventuality and surprises.the cabal and atiku might be pulling strings

I don't see any fr

fergie001:

There is a strong merit in your argument, if the SC upholds Atiku, the 21 days begins to count from the day of the declaration of that judgement. (This impeaches my earlier position)

cc garfield1 penguin2


The new Electoral Act conforms that pre-election will only come through Sections 29(5) and 84(14). In both situations, only an aspirant has that locus, unless they say otherwise on Friday.

Issues of disqualifications are pre-election matters:
Shettima's double nomination does not touch on the Constitutional Eligibility Requirements of his Candidacy. It's a product of the Electoral Act and pre-election.

Issues of forgery, citizenship and so might be looked into at the PEPT not double nomination which is wholly pre-election.

A collective reading into Abdulrauf Abdulkadir Modibbo v. Mustapha Usman, APC v. Aliyu Suleiman Lere; our Courts classified the following issues as Pre-Election.

nomination of a candidate
double nomination of a candidate
disqualification of a candidate
wrongful substitution of a successful candidate’s name by INEC complaints about the conduct of primaries
false declaration on oath about particulars of a candidate.

In all of these, none touches on items in the CFRN.

I believe it is clearly a pre-election matter. In a nutshell, Tinubu's false declaration suit as well as Shettima's double nomination are merely academic before the tribunal (to my understanding).

Sorry,there is no charge on tinubu bordering on false declaration except you meant perjury and double citizenship.
What do the drafters mean by " knowingly allowed? "
True,if atiku is declared,the new 21 days starts counting from 26.it happened in bayelsa when a certain party sued pdp bordering on the nysc of deputy gov ewrudjakpor after Lyon was removed

fergie001:
I don't see any fr

Has ikuku been impeached