yinkeys:

What’s wrong with bartenders or carpenters ?
You obviously disregard people
Victor Osimhen was once selling water on the streets

I shouldn’t argue football with you in the first place
You don’t follow football in Nigeria
You just comment before thinking

Nigeria has been fielding players of the right age since 2013
Some even do get screened out by the scan and not age eligibility

Iheanacho, Ndidi, Awoniyi, Sadiq are pure examples of such developments

U deh wine me nee 🤔

Ndidi failed a MRI scan in 2013 or maybe dem seize light and the machine no work well.

Guy wake up 🥱

BascoVanVeli:


Awoniyi is a better type of player than Origi. He is just as fast, definitely stronger and does way more for his team off the ball.

No he is not .

I'm talking with first hand close up experience by player comparison not hearsay.

You are entitled to dismiss and unbelieve.

komekn:


U deh wine me nee 🤔

Ndidi failed a MRI scan in 2013 or maybe dem seize light and the machine no work well.

Guy wake up 🥱

MRI is not an accurate predictor of age
Some eligible players do fail it
Ndidi made the u20 World Cup in 2015

TheSuperNerd:
The Naija Forest Boys of Nottingham.

Dennis is the more talented player but Awoniyis work ethic is better
This is why the coach relegated Dennis to the bench

Clint02:
It seems our u20 boys are really u20.

Na table leg you dey shake oooo

JohnBullMySon:
Racism is a joke compared the tribalism and bigotry present on just Nairaland alone

Just go to the politics section and you will be disgusted to death. Sincerely speaking, 95% of Nigerians have no moral right to condemn racism.

The white folks are far more compassionate and accommodating to strangers than we can ever be.

If our roles were reversed and it was white people seeking jobs and refuge in Nigeria, we for rub pepper for their eyes. In fact, we would have never given them independence or freed them from slavery sef.

Same people who openly clapped and cheered as innocent people from another tribe were literally butchered in the streets of their neighborhoods are now crying foul because Vinicius was verbally insulted.

Make we just dey play.

lovewins:


This isn't exactly accurate though. What the EPL does better than the others is grandstand and posture, but when it comes to addressing racism they are all the same. Isn't it the same England that Saka and 2 others were subjected to racist abuse after that euros penalty misses?

The EPL has learnt from the USA playbook;
Just kneel before every match, wear special wrist bands, donate to causes that "fight racism" etc. The most important thing is that you be seen as an ally.

Sadly, we can only learn to manage these things, racism isn't going anywhere. It's hate plain and simple and It is innate to the fallen man. It disguises itself in different shades and nomenclature but borne of the same source. It's called tribalism in African parlance but racism abroad. We saw it in our elections just a few months ago. It rares it's ugly head on this platforms too from time to time.

I wish there was a legislative solution to this, but you can't legislate love into people's heart.

Lovewins

Curtisaxel10:


Go and sit down. If you don't know what "furniture makers" means on this thread, just go and sit down.

And if you believe that all our U-20 teams since 2013 including Aigbogun's Horrible Team of Shame are genuinely U-20 and that Daniel Daga is genuinely 15 and just turned 16, I have an airport and a refinery to sell to you.

Commot for here, Oga. You no dey watch ball.

How much is your airport and refinery going for?

komekn:


Women's football an example of discrimination and inequality.

Women football is over a hundred years behind mens football in practice and delivery.

If you make a comparison of women's athletics and men's athletics the bare both of a very high standard. With the obligatory difference in gender.

But I can assure you that an academy team of U16 boys will finish England women's national team.

But we are being force fed mediocrity and comedic poor quality football ⚽ just because they are women.

Women have not acquired the experiential and knowledge competencies that men have got over a century. That's not discrimination just pure FACTS.

But a woman will get the job over much far better qualified make coach for one reason she is a WOMAN the pertinent and overriding qualifying component.

Thats reverse discrimination and sexism.

Back to racism, you are either living in Nigeria or you are in a bubble.

Racism is alive kicking and ingrained as well as wide spread and it BLATANTLY denies excludes and castigates black professionals in Football ⚽ management and administration at every level.

It's not a debate but FACT.

I sincerely couldn't make much sense of your argument here, I'll however try to respond.

Racism in itself is discrimination; it's simply discrimination based on skin colour. Sexism is also discrimination — the difference being sex/gender based. Your trying to misconstrue the examples I cited as not being contextual doesn't quite fit.

The hundred year time difference between men and women football as argument for the prevalence of male coaches in female sports is flawed. What's even more laughable is that you used male and female athletics as comparison and funnily claim then as FACTS. The answer is simple — BIOLOGY.

Biology is the reason a u15 boys team will beat the best female football team. It's got nothing to do with incompetence or 100 year time difference. Using athletics as comparison is funny because it's replete with examples.

Serena Williams is one of the best to play tennis. She obviously pass as "mediocre and comedic" as your described women's football. Guess what, in 1998, 203rd ranked male Karsten Braasch beat both Serena and Venus back to back. BIOLOGY

Lia Thomas is another example. He was ranked 462nd in men's collegiate swimming. He transitioned to a female and won the national championships even after taking hormones and puberty blockers. Again Biology wins.

The Women's world record in the 100ms is 10.49 seconds. The 950th ranked man has a better time. Again, Biology.

So to simply reduce the difference that exist between men and women's football as a product of mediocrity is being dishonest.

siralos135:



How much is your airport and refinery going for?

Just bring 1,000 make I chop indomie and egg with coke, I dey hungry🙂.

yinkeys:

Dennis is the more talented player but Awoniyis work ethic is better than his
This is why the coach relegated Dennis to the bench

Oga Yinkeys,am closer to Awo and Dennis and I want to tell you that Dennis is more talented than Awoniyi is debatable….having the flair on the ball doesn’t make one more talented.

The only problem Dennis is having is attitude and not today,right from KFA in Ilorin.Yes he is good but lack respect which Awoniyi is known for..

My senior brother took some academies boys to Italy last month but two players couldn’t make the trip due to indiscipline cuz the boys were picked based on academies coaches recommendations after thorough screening.The said players are good but do sneak out from hostel and have been caught twice,meaning they can japa in Italy.

Having successful football career is all about right attitude and Dennis should always thanks his agent for doing good job for him.

Curtisaxel10:


Just bring 1,000 make I chop indomie and egg with coke, I dey hungry🙂.

Kog45:
Oga Yinkeys,am closer to Awo and Dennis and I want to tell you that Dennis is more talented than Awoniyi is debatable….having the flair on the ball doesn’t make one more talented.

The only problem Dennis is having is attitude and not today,right from KFA in Ilorin.Yes he is good but lack respect which Awoniyi is known for..

My senior brother took some academy boys to Italy last month but two players couldn’t make the trip due to indiscipline cuz the boys were picked based on academy coaches recommendations.The said players are good but do sneak out from hostel and have been caught twice,meaning they can japa in Italy.

Having successful football career is all about right attitude and Dennis should always thanks his agent for doing good job for him.

Been watching their games for years
It’s hard to find Taiwo creating a goal for himself out of nothing.
Dennis can do that.
Taiwo is a better high presser and fights for the ball when he loses it
At Watford Dennis did lose balls that cost Watford conceding.
He seems to have a lacklustre attitude when it comes to fighting or retrieving balls.
Dennis does lose the ball a lot especially when he tries out some of his dribbles.
Taiwo has better work ethic and is more of a team player
I’d compare Taiwo Awoniyi’s game style to that of Nketiah. It’s similar
Coaches these days especially in struggling teams pick work ethic over talent
Taiwo should target 10 premier league goals in his next game. Double digits in first season is a really good CV
One more would make it 10.
Dennis got 10 EPL goals last season

TheSuperNerd:
The Naija Forest Boys of Nottingham.

Is Dennis injured ?

Joebie:
Make we settle this matter.

Give both coaches the best players money can buy to assemble a team. Pep go trounce MOU.

Give them average players. MOU go beat Pep mercilessly.

O pari

This is not true.

Curtisaxel10:
By the way, if you support tribalism in Nigeria but condemn racism in Spain, I just want to tell you that you are a fowl-brained doltish clown.

Maintain your tribalistic energy everywhere so that thunder can locate you easily.

Agreed

tbaba12345:


I am not dead.

I knew you weren't, even though i am yet to know you in person.

I knew something was wrong with that news - it didn't click well with me.

yinkeys:

MRI is not an accurate predictor of age
Some eligible players do fail it
Ndidi made the u20 World Cup in 2015

There is absolutely no age assessment or use of MRI if you say you are 20 you are 20 no question asked.

Eberechi Eze makes the England Squad against Malta.

He'll probably get capped and then get ignored much later.

Tomori still doesn't get the nod.

He was on the bench vs Arsenal.

andrew444:


Is Dennis injured ?

lovewins:
Eberechi Eze makes the England Squad against Malta.

He'll probably get capped and then get ignored much later.

Tomori still doesn't get the nod.

I hope the eyes of the true delusionists here will finally be open.

Eberechi Eze will never play for us. He will finally be capped, not once, not twice but thrice or more and viola... Game over! Michael Olise too is bidding his time and he too might get his dream of playing for a euro nation.

We keep making up XIs and shitty analyses with players who will never play for us while we keep ignoring the options we "realistically" have who can also fit into our team and come help elevate our midfield quality.

It's about time we faced the reality.

TheSuperNerd:


I hope the eyes of the true delusionists here will finally be open.

Eberechi Eze will never play for us. He will finally be capped, not once, not twice but thrice or more and viola... Game over! Michael Olise too is bidding his time and he too might get his dream of playing for a euro nation.

We keep making up XIs and shitty analyses with players who will never play for us while we keep ignoring the options we "realistically" have who can also fit into our team and come help elevate our midfield quality.

It's about time we faced the reality.

I blame Rohr for this Eze miss... Post 2018 world cup was the right time for him to rebuild the midfield, especially with Mikel passing his prime... Eze was in QPR and very much available,yet Rohr made little effort to cap him.. kept calling up the same midfield options of Mikel, Ndidi, Etebo, Ogu,. Agu and Agbo.. Iwobi was not incorporated into the midfield until post world cup...

TheSuperNerd:


I hope the eyes of the true delusionists here will finally be open.

Eberechi Eze will never play for us. He will finally be capped, not once, not twice but thrice or more and viola... Game over! Michael Olise too is bidding his time and he too might get his dream of playing for a euro nation.

We keep making up XIs and shitty analyses with players who will never play for us while we keep ignoring the options we "realistically" have who can also fit into our team and come help elevate our midfield quality.

It's about time we faced the reality.

Finally in the England Squad

The wait will be worth it once he make it to the euros and next would cup ,he really work so hard for this ,I guess bye bye to naija

Whether we blame Rohr or not, he is no longer with us. Eze was eventually invited under Rohr and still turned us down for an U20/U21 invite. Never forget that.

The point here is let us stay focused on those Midfield options that are actually available to us and can't wait to dorn our colours. The Yusufs, the Nwakalis, The Onyedikas, The Eletus, and more. And not on dual nationals with options to choose between England and Nigeria or between France/Germany and Nigeria when we all know their first option will always be the Euro nation (and I don't blame them for their choice anyway).

Danielnino00:


I blame Rohr for this Eze miss... Post 2018 world cup was the right time for him to rebuild the midfield, especially with Mikel passing his prime... Eze was in QPR and very much available,yet Rohr made little effort to cap him.. kept calling up the same midfield options of Mikel, Ndidi, Etebo, Ogu,. Agu and Agbo.. Iwobi was not incorporated into the midfield until post world cup...

Exactly. No be today.

Dude was even Euros-bound but injury interrupted that. He was always gonna go with the English.

I only indulged a little of the hope that he may still turn out for us because Southgate still hasn't invited him even though I know it was inevitable judging by his form and showings this season. So his invite now is no surprise to me really.

This is why I would rather focus my analytical powers on discussing our "actual" midfield options and not "wishy" options that are bound to play for England and co.

andrew444:


Finally in the England Squad

The wait will be worth it once he make it to the euros and next would cup ,he really work so hard for this ,I guess bye bye to naija

TheSuperNerd:
Exactly. No be today.

Dude was even Euros-bound but injury interrupted that. He was always gonna go with the English.

I only indulged a little of the hope that he may still turn out for us because Southgate still hasn't invited him even though I know it was inevitable judging by his form and showings this season. So his invite now is no surprise to me really.

This is why I would rather focus my analytical powers on discussing our "actual" midfield options and not "wishy" options that are bound to play for England and co.

Na imagination and an finish some of us for ebere eze matter

Well said bros

It's time we accept our place on the global food chain.
We simply can't compete for talent with the big boys. We are like Burnley or Sunderland competing against Psg or Bayern for talent. It's that big a joke...

If Ngr can make back to back world cup Semi finals then we can contest with the Super national teams.

Making back to back world cup Semis will be likened to Sunderland taken over by Saudis with an investment of $2B in players, management, sports science and facilities.

Who will be that NFF president/ board who can make good investment with brilliant strategy from top to bottom in revolutionizing our local football structure to incubate talents who can force their way to a brilliant back to back brilliant world cup runs?

TheSuperNerd:


I hope the eyes of the true delusionists here will finally be open.

Eberechi Eze will never play for us. He will finally be capped, not once, not twice but thrice or more and viola... Game over! Michael Olise too is bidding his time and he too might get his dream of playing for a euro nation.

We keep making up XIs and shitty analyses with players who will never play for us while we keep ignoring the options we "realistically" have who can also fit into our team and come help elevate our midfield quality.

It's about time we faced the reality.

ever since the time he rejected rohr's call up for the u20 call up, it was sure that his heart was with the three lions. Why people kept on putting him in our prospective lineups was never clear to me. I guess it's the hope that kills. Olise too is just one big move away from playing for either France or Algeria. We'll be fine Sha.

Barryseal:
It's time we accept our place on the global food chain.
We simply can't compete for talent with the big boys. We are like Burnley or Sunderland competing against Psg or Bayern for talent. It's that big a joke...

If Ngr can make back to back world cup Semi finals then we can contest with the Super national teams.

Making back to back world cup Semis will be likened to Sunderland taken over by Saudis with an investment of $2B in players, management, sports science and facilities.

Who will be that NFF president/ board who can make good investment with brilliant strategy from top to bottom in revolutionizing our local football structure to incubate talents who can force their way to a brilliant back to back brilliant world cup runs?

our only hope is that our players from our academies make it cos I dont know what we want to promise an English born player that will be better than the prospect of playing for the three lions.

Joebie:
Funny thing is you are only looking at one side.

Yeah. I know. The other side go long to describe 😆

Ppogbae:


The answer to our midfield crisis!

Unfortunately, two elephants that are not Arsenal, are fighting gidigbo lately. One is remo. The other you know who.

TheSuperNerd:


I hope the eyes of the true delusionists here will finally be open.

Eberechi Eze will never play for us. He will finally be capped, not once, not twice but thrice or more and viola... Game over! Michael Olise too is bidding his time and he too might get his dream of playing for a euro nation.

We keep making up XIs and shitty analyses with players who will never play for us while we keep ignoring the options we "realistically" have who can also fit into our team and come help elevate our midfield quality.

It's about time we faced the reality.

Big reality checker.


I know some will blame Rohr. They forget that man was not really pulling the strings for invitations. Las las, make we comot hopes for Afcon. That middle is empty and a worse manager at the helm again. Southgate seem to finally realize he needs to mix old and new, while back here, many greedy administrators are crying foul about 'turning the national team to foreign born team'


They don use private mindset to privatise national mata.