onlinediva:
This thread is full of

use ESCROW
use ESCROW
Use ESCROW

The questions now are:

1. Do you know the so-called "angels" you are using for ESCROW to their houses, offices, families, etc.?
2. Are they officially registered and known for ESCROW in Nigeria?
3. In case the transaction you use them as ESCROW becomes police, efcc, etc. matter, are they willingly ready to put mouth?

As someone earlier said here, it is not a must a seller or buyer agrees to use any of the "angels" recommended for ESCROW here in as much there is or are better ways of securely completing transactions.

onlinediva:
This thread is full of

use ESCROW
use ESCROW
Use ESCROW

The questions now are:

1. Do you know the so-called "angels" you are using for ESCROW to their houses, offices, families, etc.?
2. Are they officially registered and known for ESCROW in Nigeria?
3. In case the transaction you use them as ESCROW becomes police, efcc, etc. matter, are they willingly ready to put mouth?

As someone earlier said here, it is not a must a seller or buyer agrees to use any of the "angels" recommended for ESCROW here in as much there is or are better ways of securely completing transactions.

queendoreez:


Ma'am, leave long talk.
Escrow saves both buyers and sellers headaches of scam. See as person just scam someone 10k now, if they had used escrow, nobody will get scammed.

Stop justifying your unwillingness to use escrow, no be everybody dey Lagos, so they can't make it to your office for the face to face transaction, which in your write up, is a substitute for escrow services.

So far, no one has come out to say any of the escrows scammed them, or have you heard of such?
So whether they be angels or not, that's not the point.

The point is we are conducting successful transactions with escrows here!

Troy007:


She actually has a point with the escrow thing. In as much as escrow is advisable, you can't 100% trust escrow.

You were the lady that had an issue with one "trusted" trader here right?

He could have passed as an escrow for someone at a time.

The guys mentioned as escrows are verified and trusted (I know cos I use one of them), but even at that, I still see any transaction with a stranger online, be it with escrow or not as "risk".

It's just knowing which risk you prefer to go for.

Troy007:


She actually has a point with the escrow thing. In as much as escrow is advisable, you can't 100% trust escrow.

You were the lady that had an issue with one "trusted" trader here right?

He could have passed as an escrow for someone at a time.

The guys mentioned as escrows are verified and trusted (I know cos I use one of them), but even at that, I still see any transaction with a stranger online, be it with escrow or not as "risk".

It's just knowing which risk you prefer to go for.

dessz:



Lmaoooo... Trying to sow discord and doubt.

Madam... There is NO such thing as a complete full proof system. Definitely, there are things escrow can't forsee and times where these scammer play very mad moves.
But that does not mean people should not use escrow, just because escrow isn't 100% safe doesn't mean we should stop using it and start sending money to person wey I no know. Nobody gives a flying Bleep about where you work at, if you like make you dey work for PayPal, I will still use escrow and advise everyone to.

Please and please, everyone ensure you use escrows for any transaction... When in doubt, use escrow. Do not fall for their scam. I have been in nairaland for over 5 years, the only time I ever got scammed was for 3k wey i no use escrow.

The popular escrows here are recommended based on their consistency and honesty. Trust me, if escrow Wan run with money, no be your $200 abi $1k PayPal fit tempt em. These guys deal with millions daily and dem never run, so no dey try discredit the good they have done.
Wese90 & braindee, I trust em with everything and I WILL always tell everybody to USE an escrow.
If your partner like, make e compose essay on why make you no use escrow, that one concern him papa. Be adamant and always use your escrow. It's not 100% full proof but it's being tested and trusted.

Just my piece.

onlinediva:
@ Samsard

If you have been a long time nairalander, you should know several nairalanders who were so much trusted with money that eventually ran away with so much money without any trace. Some of them might not willingly want to do that but situations they didn't expect might have caused it.

I'm not saying those so-called angels you are currently using as ESCROW will run away but want you people to think wide and put in measures.

In addition, hope the so-called angels are aware of naira paid being charged back; they should put in more efforts and measures to prevent such from happening or how to swiftly resolve such if it happens.

onlinediva:


More reasons so-called angels used as ESCROW should be well known beyond online and their measures, checks, etc. to prevent or resolve issues should be known. It is not only PayPal funds that are being charged back; naira paid for cryptocurrencies and even digital currencies are being charged back. So therefore, any ESCROW can land into serious debts or issues at any time without prior notice.

In conclusion, know those so-called angels used as ESCROW beyond online and their measures. ESCROW is beyond just collecting and releasing money.

samsard:
There's nothing that's without risk in life. Even deals between family members go wrong and they're not strangers. Governments can even default on their obligations. The question is would you rather risk it with someone who's been fairly reliable or try direct trades with people on a thread with weekly incidence of scams?
Mind you, I know the company she's representing and I know they're fairly reliable. But this thread has peculiarities that one should always consider to avoid encouraging risking money blindly.

queendoreez:


I knew someone will mention that episode, but that is one out of many my dear. If I had used escrow with the trader maybe I wouldn't be in that mess.
And yes, even among trusted traders, escrows are recommended.

I'd rather trade with escrow 80% certainty.
Than a random stranger with no guarantees.

Nothing is guaranteed in life, but escrows have some percentage of guarantee say money no fit enter bush.

Troy007:


She actually has a point with the escrow thing. In as much as escrow is advisable, you can't 100% trust escrow.

You were the lady that had an issue with one "trusted" trader here right?

He could have passed as an escrow for someone at a time.

The guys mentioned as escrows are verified and trusted (I know cos I use one of them), but even at that, I still see any transaction with a stranger online, be it with escrow or not as "risk".

It's just knowing which risk you prefer to go for.

samsard:
There's nothing that's without risk in life. Even deals between family members go wrong and they're not strangers. Governments can even default on their obligations. The question is would you rather risk it with someone who's been fairly reliable or try direct trades with people on a thread with weekly incidence of scams?
Mind you, I know the company she's representing and I know they're fairly reliable. But this thread has peculiarities that one should always consider to avoid encouraging risking money blindly.

queendoreez:


I knew someone will mention that episode, but that is one out of many my dear. If I had used escrow with the trader maybe I wouldn't be in that mess.
And yes, even among trusted traders, escrows are recommended.

I'd rather trade with escrow 80% certainty.
Than a random stranger with no guarantees.

Nothing is guaranteed in life, but escrows have some percentage of guarantee say money no fit enter bush.

onlinediva:


Great you are getting the point.

You said the guys mentioned as escrows are verified and trusted because you use one of them.

Do you know any of them to their houses, offices, families, etc. in case anything happens and you are invited to defend them or give more details about them?

onlinediva:


Don't get me wrong. I didn't tell you people to stop using escrow but put checks on it plus escrow is not the only way.

As a matter of fact, going to office for one on one transaction or trading with a highly trusted exchange company via their verified website or whatsapp is far better than the kind of escrow being run here.

My boss, Legalwealth who owns IJAM Exchange Limited with a physical office in Lagos since 2014 is a highly reputable person on nairaland for more than 10 years. If you check this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3430558/scam-alert-dont-victim-updates pinned to top on business section by its moderator, you will see Legalwealth in the list of trusted exchangers.

Troy007:


Lol Doreez you are also forgetting that these "escrows" are also nairalanders with no accreditation or anything.

Is like me trading with Mesmer and using wese as escrow, to me I trust both equally.
So if I can't trust Mesmer with my money why will I trust wese with it. I don't know if you get what I am saying here...

Troy007:


We are saying same thing. Like I said, it depends on which risk you choose to go for. I will always go the escrow route, but even at that I am still taking a risk.

My point in general is, we should stop making it look like escrow is 100%.

I have an issue now with a "trusted" nairalander, just the same way queendoreez had with one and those guys could stand as escrow for any transaction.

queendoreez:


Also consider the insecurities in this country.. going to someone's office to trade and you get kidnapped nko?
Abeg, there's risk in everything in this life shaa.
Choose your risk wisely.

queendoreez:


Also consider the insecurities in this country.. going to someone's office to trade and you get kidnapped nko?
Abeg, there's risk in everything in this life shaa.
Choose your risk wisely.

queendoreez:
Buying PayPal funds ( card and balance ).

USA / UK / CAD cash mailing can come in at good rate.

Bank pick up infos, also available.

onlinediva:


The bolded is on point. There are also other options that are even better; stop idolizing "escrows" on nairaland that none of you know necessarily things about.

queendoreez:


I know your boss.
He used to be 1 of my Perfectmoney vendors back in 2021.
But if I want to trade with you, I'll insist on escrow.
No vex, you and him no be the same person.