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Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by MindHacker9009(m): 9:53pm On May 29, 2023 |
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Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by Dtruthspeaker: 11:18am On May 30, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Stop increasing your stupidity and displaying your foolishness. Every normal person knows the difference between the report of a person who saw an event as different from the one who did not see the event. And the difference is very very clear beyond dispute. And it is a sign of great stupidity and foolishness for you to be thinking that my argument is based on the words "perfect present tenses or whatever". Your iq is even more than -14. (I wonder if it would read -50?) |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 5:37pm On May 30, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:@ the emboldened, if my IQ was more than -14, then it should be in-between -13< 0 < 200+. It would never reduce to -50. BTW, a human's IQ cannot be at the negative. From the above , it clearly shows that you do not understand simple english and basic maths. @the subscripted text, I don't even know what to say to you. You obviously don't understand simple english structures. There is nothing to explain to you, you are just too dumb to understand. A primary 3 kid probably understands English language better than you. 1 Like |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by Dtruthspeaker: 5:58pm On May 30, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: See your no intelligent self! 0 is indeed greater than -13 thus reduction is -50 greater than-13. (-50<-30<-13). Therefore, you just proved that you are -50 more dumber than -13. |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 9:25pm On May 30, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Lol! Your parents should have sent you to a good primary school or at least tutor you themselves. So in your own village, -50 is greater than -13? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I swr, I lost all the ability to can't. You don't even worth my response at all, you don't understand simple english and basic maths? Ha! Your own have done🤣🤣🤣 1 Like |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by Dtruthspeaker: 11:02am On May 31, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Kai! Your school, your parents and ordinary common sense did not teach you that -50 is greater than -13 in the negative count? That a person owing N50 definitely has a greater debt to pay than a person owing N13? Boy you are too dumb to be here. You should be in the field playing police and thief. ![]() |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 5:26pm On May 31, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: This was your initial post, where in the post did you say "my IQ was greater than -14 in the negative"? Dtruthspeaker: It was until I schooled your grandfather's ass that you decided to add the negative clause. I say you no Sabi English I swr, you don't understand simple english structures. There is nothing nobody can tell me, you no get common entrance. A 7years old kid probably understands English language better than you 1 Like |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by sonmvayina(m): 6:22pm On May 31, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Dtruthspeaker...this is not me oh... The evidence is mounting |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 8:11pm On May 31, 2023 |
sonmvayina: Where is the confusion coming from? And which/what evidence is mounting? |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by TenQ: 8:50pm On May 31, 2023 |
Nsogbu001:Jews know about Jesus but they hate and despise Him. John 1:10-11: "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came to his own, and his own received him not." Mar 6:1,3-6: "And he went out from there, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him. … Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. But Jesus, said to them, A prophet is not without honor, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands on a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marveled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching." |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by sonmvayina(m): 9:05pm On May 31, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: He is a slowpoke.... He is dumber than Lou ferigno |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by Dtruthspeaker: 9:06pm On May 31, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Dumbty-dumbty here it is looking at ya! Dtruthspeaker: And it is a sign of great stupidity and foolishness for you to be thinking that my argument is based on the words "perfect present tenses or whatever". Your iq IS EVEN MORE THAN -14.(or greater than -14 (I wonder if it would read -50?). Fooldirat! ![]() And for your further display of stupidity, it is now read -110. Dumbat. ![]() |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by sonmvayina(m): 9:07pm On May 31, 2023 |
TenQ: And the evidence you have is the propaganda written by christians.. Issorite |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by TenQ: 9:15pm On May 31, 2023 |
sonmvayina:There is no Jew who doesn't know about Jesus of the Christians: they only see it as ridiculous. Even Jews say without Christianity, few people will know about Judaism. Now, even some Nigerian's practice Judaism |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by SIRTee15: 10:17pm On May 31, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Let me ask you a question, have u heard of the phrase 'Apostolic fathers'. Your response will determine if I should continue the conversation with u? |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 4:45am On Jun 01, 2023 |
SIRTee15:Why wouldn't I know about The Apostolic Fathers? I spent my early years in Catholic. 1 Like |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 5:00am On Jun 01, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:I say you are ordained for dumbness. Lemme school your grandfather's ass. It is impossible for a human IQ to be in the negative. When your IQ is @ 0, it clinically means that you are dead. A living being can't have an IQ in negative, a kid should know that much. That's the reason you are forcing yourself not to have sense on a public forum like this ha! Must you show everyone that you are blessed with stupidity?? I guess that's the reason you didn't know -50 is lesser than -14. Baba said greater 🤣🤣🤣 I wonder the kind of family you are from, at least, if you're traveling parallel to wisdom at opposite directions, someone in your family should be brilliant enough to set your ass straight 2 Likes |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 5:01am On Jun 01, 2023 |
sonmvayina:It's true. The guy is the king of dumb. Balon d'dumb 🤣🤣🤣 2 Likes |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by SIRTee15: 10:29am On Jun 01, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN:Ok good. Now did the apostolic fathers read the gospel letters? Did they make reference to the gospel letters in their own writings? |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by Dtruthspeaker: 8:10pm On Jun 01, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Foolarin! ![]() ![]() Secondly, you are the first living fool to accomplish it. ![]() Thirdly, you are irredeemably stupid to not see that a person owing 50million (-50m) is definitely owing greater than a person owing 13million (-13). King Fool. |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by Dtruthspeaker: 8:20pm On Jun 01, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Ehen, see falling. Even to the level of consorting with a known madman. ![]() ![]() |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 9:59pm On Jun 01, 2023 |
SIRTee15:The information is available on Google, don't be lazy. Come back and ask me reasonable questions. I'm not sitting at you for an interview please |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 10:10pm On Jun 01, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:Stop talking like someone whose life has burnt. A living human can't have his IQ on the negative. It's the same as saying " Michael Jackson who died long ago will grace tomorrow's occasion". Anyone who hears that will conclude that it's either you are unfortunate or naturally dumb beyond redemption. You are the dumbest person I've ever seen on NL. I guess it was inherited. Your father and your grandfather Dtruthspeaker:We are not talking about debt, we are talking about IQ. You are wrong, just accept it and move on, it's not a must to display your foolishness on a fine forum like NL. This is the last response you'll get from me. I've taken note of your Moniker, whenever you come at am. You won't get more than "Your father and your grandfather". Please do not consider raising kids, because no kid should inherit this kind of a dull brain. You are irredeemably hopeless 1 Like |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by SIRTee15: 3:32pm On Jun 02, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: ok, fair enough. So I searched google and it says the apostolic fathers read the gospel and reference the gospel letters in their own writings. This destroys your fabricated claim that the gospels were written 100 years after Jesus. The apostolic fathers were early Christians who personally knew the disciples of Jesus, this confirms they lived in the 1st century just like Jesus. If they read the gospel, it means the gospel letters were written in the 1st century, same century Jesus lived. You came here with your loud mouth claiming Jesus never existed and the gospel letters were written a century after he lived. A claim u cant back with any evidence. I keep saying it, nairaland atheist are the laziest bunch I've ever met, and they never cease to disappoint. I have even retired a few here by forcing them to change their moniker after exposing them as sham. They come here with bogus claims they cant provide evidence for and are easily debunked. The only thing they can confidently defend is the insult they throw at God. Challenge them intellectually and they shrink like the one above. If I ask FRANCISTOWN now to provide evidence that Jesus never existed, he will fail miserably. But I will let him be, I dont want to be responsible for his retirement from nairaland. |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by Dtruthspeaker: 5:02pm On Jun 02, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Burnt Foolshon who is already frustrated with life and you are not yet 30 o. I can see your grey hairs and wrinkled skin at 35! ![]() ![]() FRANCISTOWN: Of course we are not talking about debt but about how you could not understand how -50million is greater than -13million, is shocking. So, mad fools like you ought to be thrown into volcanoes like upon sight so that this forum can be clean and decent and reasonable again |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 5:36pm On Jun 02, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:Balon D'Dumb . You are welcome, your royal foolishness 1 Like |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 5:53pm On Jun 02, 2023 |
SIRTee15:I no too dey talk Abeg. Just 2% of my brain is probably more intelligent than all the Christians put together on this forum. see the second paragraph on this You don't know anything, yet you kept on arguing. I maintain that that nigga jesus never existed. There are no acheological proofs of his existence. see here see here too The accounts of his life were written (gasp!) fifty years after the crucifixion!” And? The earliest biography of Julius Caesar was written 175 years after his death, and the earliest biography of Alexander the Great was written 300 years after his death. That doesn’t stop historians from producing remarkably detailed biographies based on written sources. “There is no mention of Jesus in any Roman records from the period.” That’s because there are no Roman records from the period. About anything You see, read Kenneth Humphreys. I can't talk too much, your Jesus never lived. He was just an imaginary fairy character to amuse children. That's why prayers don't get answered. Now provide any archeological facts for the existence of Jesus. Since you are that smart. Mtcheeeew 2 Likes |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by Dtruthspeaker: 6:23pm On Jun 02, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Stone King Mumudeen, the king of fools of all nations. |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by SIRTee15: 2:28am On Jun 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: This francistown is very funny, I asked for evidence of Jesus non existence, he brought us historical evidence of Jesus existence. did u read those links at all here..... But the ancient references to Jesus are not just found in works by Christian authors, an argument that supports the historical authenticity of the character. “Jesus is also mentioned in ancient Jewish and Roman texts,” says McCane. For example, around the year 93, the Pharisee historian Flavius Josephus left in his work Jewish Antiquities at least one indisputable reference to the “brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.” Two decades later, the Romans Pliny and Tacitus also wrote about Jesus; the latter explained that the founder of the sect of Christians was executed during the mandate of Emperor Tiberius, when Pontius Pilate was governing in Judea. Your gospel evidence corroborate my claim. The gospel letters were written in the 1st century. book of Mark was around 50 AD while book of John around 90 AD. Jesus lived 1AD to 33AD which meant the 1st gospel was written within 20 yrs after he lived.... unlike your bogus claim- If Jesus were alive when the first gospel was written, he would be 134 years old. As I said, u are way beyond your depth on this matter. I'm sure u just started researching this topic after my post, reason for bringing wikipedia as evidence as well as other contradictory articles. And I'm sure u know nothing about apostolic fathers. I will let u be, but be careful what u post here, some of us will call u out if u found to be intellectually deficient while making bogus claims.. |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by FRANCISTOWN: 5:32am On Jun 03, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Wait, what kind of a person do you think you are talking to. My arguments are never based on a single point of view. Check all my earlier posts. As much as I reject the existence of any god, if I saw a christian who says anything reasonable, I'll acknowledge such post and I'll praise the person. My arguments on NL is not to win any arguments, it's to widen everyone's thinking horizon. In the links I asked you to check out. Lemme start from the first. Pliny and Tacitus work cannot be proven, because no one can really tell the exact date those works were written, and they could have been some parts of the Bible that were rejected. I repeat that no archeological facts, or any other written works about Jesus' life has been detected so far. If there were archeological facts about the "city of David" who lived centuries before the time of your said "son of God". How come there are no facts to solidify that of Jesus? Also, please read the link again. The first gospel "Mark" was not written by any of the apostle directly. @the emboldened, 50years A.D means 50 years of the lord of jesus and not within 20 years after he lived. Also, I'll like to point to the erro- neous assertion that you made about the gospel of Mark, the gospel of Mark was not written In 50.AD. it was infact written in anything between 70A.D-120 A.D. It was finished and completed after the first century. Let's say it was written in the year 70 A.D. Note that, Mark himself was not a disciple of jesus. Read that again, Mark was not a direct disciple of jesus The gospel of Mark was an account of Peter. It further solidifies my claim that none of Jesus' account was written when that guy was alive. The first gospel was written because Mark was an inte- rpreter of Peter. Peter had already died when Mark wrote the first gospel. Mark himself didn't know Jesus, he wrote down what he must have heard from Peter. See, I know all these things. I had to use google immediately you asked me for proofs. Do you know why? It's because I didn't find out about all th- ese facts on the internet. I found out in some secret books of the Roman Catholic Church. And obviously, there is no way I can refer you to such books. Please read again and understand. If the first gospel was written after the first set of apostles had died, how were they then able to write down words for words what Jesus did and said. There would have been of course lots of errors because no one has that kinna memory to remember what someone said word for word many many years ago. That's why there are lots of contradi- ctions between the gospels and the letters of paul. Paul wrote his letters before the first gospel was written. Paul himself never read or knew any- thing about Jesus' life, except from what he heard from different apostles. I'm just saying this to help lots of people who are angry at Jesus calm down because that's the truth. JESUS NEVER LIVED. 2 Likes |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by SIRTee15: 4:29pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: U just contradicting yourself and not even making sense. Jesus lived 1AD to 33AD. Gospel of Mark was written 60AD. Do the maths...how's the difference 50 years? Peter died 68 AD, the gospel of Mark was already in circulation in the 60s AD. U claim Jesus never existed, bring proof. Bring evidence that showed clearly that Jesus never existed. We have historical evidence of existence of Jesus. That there's no archeology trace of someone is not an evidence of his non-existence. |
Re: I Hope We Are Not Making Mistakes About Jesus Christ. Take A Look by sonmvayina(m): 8:05pm On Jun 03, 2023 |
What’s a good apologetic defense for the gospels recording the crucifixion on different days? I have seen Christians try and muddy the waters by directing the skeptics to focus on days of the week, calendar discrepancies, or differences between the Jewish and Roman start of the day, but none of these distractions address the issue: the last supper is a Passover Seder in Matthew, Mark, and Luke and so Jesus is killed on Passover in the Synoptics. In the gospel of John, the last supper is not a Passover Seder and Jesus is killed the day before Passover. Why isn’t this discrepancy an obvious sign that the writers intended the stories to be fictional? |
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