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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 12:29pm On Jun 04, 2023
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 2:16pm On Jun 04, 2023
Yes countries subsidy certain items but we should rather target things like education, healthcare, transportation and agriculture to support instead of fuel subsidy that is unsustainable.

Truth is as we are now there's no ideal time to remove subsidy so the sooner it's removed and we begin to find solutions to the fallout the better.

Obaaderemi2:
I'm curious to see how this can be achieved. But if he can do it that will be good. He needs to cushion the effects of the subsidy removal. I support fuel subsidy removal but not entirely eliminating it like we have done. Transport costs would go up and spark more inflation. But what's done is done sha.

What I know and I've said here in the past is that these countries we're copying all have subsidies in different form.
Iran subsidizes cooking oil and other sundry items. Even the almighty America have fuel subsidy in certain forms. Or how do you explain buying petrol in Georgia at 0.90$ while you are paying over $1 in Ghana and Kenya and now Nigeria?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QueenNyakim: 2:22pm On Jun 04, 2023
GeneralDae:

Okay.

Before anyone gets pissy, I'm not dunking on Africa or anything as I want it to do well but if we are honest with ourselves, we are like way behind the rest of the world especially interms of technology.

Eastern and South Asia, Western Europe, and the United States of America are building AI, planning on sending scientists to Mars to setup a human colony decades after landing on the Moon, building self-driving technology, supercomputers all the while most African countries too busy believing in fairytales of invisible men in the clouds, waiting to go to a non-existent place called heaven, and hoping something as dumb as prays will fix their problems...Also, thinking its more important to prosecute the gays when there are other important matters like food security. Its a lousy sitaution most of us are in.

I believe the only country making any effort at least to send someone to space was Nigeria. They are planning to build a launch pad on African soil and to send a Nigerian to the moon by 2030 but I haven't heard of any update about that in like years other than few mini rocket tests.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/06/africa/nigeria-nasrda-space-astronaut/index.html

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 3:55pm On Jun 04, 2023
QueenNyakim:


Eastern and South Asia, Western Europe, and the United States of America are building AI, planning on sending scientists to Mars to setup a human colony decades after landing on the Moon, building self-driving technology, supercomputers all the while most African countries too busy believing in fairytales of invisible men in the clouds, waiting to go to a non-existent place called heaven, and hoping something as dumb as prays will fix their problems...Also, thinking its more important to prosecute the gays when there are other important matters like food security. Its a lousy sitaution most of us are in.


We can't move forward with people like you looking down on others simply because of their beliefs. wink There are a myriad of factors on why we're still undeveloped and I bet you religion is rock bottom.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 5:36pm On Jun 04, 2023
Saddamochieng00:


My biggest issue with atheism is that it's biggest proponents are covertly Satanists.
My issue with them is specifically on how they demean believers in regard to their cerebral capacity. Albert Einstein among several was the greatest of scientist who acknowledged that the universe can't pop up from oblivion. His statement in one of his ideologies:

" we see a universe MARVELOUSLY ARRANGED, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds can not grasp the MYSTERIOUS FORCE that sways the constellation." _ this is a statement in his journey to acknowledging a superior being.

Quantum physicians have proven beyond doubt that the universe certainly has a creator. Human beings can't evolve from oblivion. Only foolish ego-inflated black @ss _ who rank themselves as intelligence will come to spew degrading terms on us who believe in the superior being.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 5:45pm On Jun 04, 2023
chrisooblog:
Yes countries subsidy certain items but we should rather target things like education, healthcare, transportation and agriculture to support instead of fuel subsidy that is unsustainable.

Truth is as we are now there's no ideal time to remove subsidy so the sooner it's removed and we begin to find solutions to the fallout the better.

generally speaking, the subsidy is no longer going as planned. Oil marketers are exploiting the scheme so bad, unlike how it used to be prior the 2000s.

We never can tell if it would be sustainable assuming the marketers aren't overly overcharging.

We have public institutions across sectors that are over-subsidized sef, education and health is subsidized across states but oil subsidy payment is affecting the sectors at federal level.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 5:46pm On Jun 04, 2023
Saddamochieng00:


We can't move forward with people like you looking down on others simply because of their beliefs. wink There are a myriad of factors on why we're still undeveloped and I bet you religion is rock bottom.
UAE should be his case study. Those guys are hard-core believers. How is religion affecting development? We're not in stone age era where people could pray for everything. People work f*king hard, while going to churches and mosques. Most people believe. The mindset is what Aids development. No engineer will pray for skyscrapers to sprout out without making an effort to spend and work!
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 6:50pm On Jun 04, 2023
Kenyan Banks have made incredible expansion outside the country establishing 552 branches & employing over 11,000 people.

DRC remain the most promising growth frontier but the small Rwanda lead in profitability.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 6:51pm On Jun 04, 2023
theenchanter:
generally speaking, the subsidy is no longer going as planned. Oil marketers are exploiting the scheme so bad, unlike how it used to be prior the 2000s.

We never can tell if it would be sustainable assuming the marketers aren't overly overcharging.

We have public institutions across sectors that are over-subsidized sef, education and health is subsidized across states but oil subsidy payment is affecting the sectors at federal level.
What if states control their VAT's and subsidize anything they want depending on their situation?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 7:57pm On Jun 04, 2023
GeneralDae:

What if states control their VAT's and subsidize anything they want depending on their situation?
states have the constitutional power to collect tax and subsidize anything they want. every states, including the FCT have their own revenue service.

The taxes collected by states is even more than what they could possibly generate from VAT. The problem is just that we're too fixated on the FG and states govt also have their eyes on FAAC.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 8:02pm On Jun 04, 2023
chrisooblog:
PBAT has said he wants to formulate a proper credit system so that middle class and lower wage earners can buy cars, pay mortgage and buy items on credit to be paid in installments.

But on a serious note, why will middle class need government credit system, when they can comfortably purchase wat they want.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 8:07pm On Jun 04, 2023
QuietMynd:

But on a serious note, why will middle class need government credit system, when they can comfortably purchase wat they want.
For convenience. Most people don't "comfortably" purchase what they want, they only do because they have no alternative.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 8:11pm On Jun 04, 2023
Ogoja rice mill

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 8:11pm On Jun 04, 2023
Port harcourt

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QuietMynd: 8:22pm On Jun 04, 2023
theenchanter:
For convenience. Most people don't "comfortably" purchase what they want, they only do because they have no alternative.
Ok u re right tho, but expanding the credit system to the middle class will stretch the system thin, because I don't see people living in Victoria Island, ikoyi nd Co needing govt support to purchase anything since majority re successful entrepreneurs already.
Like I said earlier including them will only make the system uneffective for the lower class nd below.
We both know wat the middle class will be using the system to purchase is luxury goods.
I will say they re the problem to Nigeria forex problem already since the poor man don't use dollar, I doubt if majority knows how a dollar bill looks like, the middle class re the ones buying usless things with the limited fx we make like importing American pizza 🍕, sending their children to foreign schools nd so on.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 8:32pm On Jun 04, 2023
QuietMynd:

Ok u re right tho, but expanding the credit system to the middle class will stretch the system thin, because I don't see people living in Victoria Island, ikoyi nd Co needing govt support to purchase anything since majority re successful entrepreneurs already.
Like I said earlier including them will only make the system uneffective for the lower class nd below.
We both know wat the middle class will be using the system to purchase is luxury goods.
I will say they re the problem to Nigeria forex problem already since the poor man don't use dollar, I doubt if majority knows how a dollar bill looks like, the middle class re the ones buying usless things with the limited fx we make like importing American pizza 🍕, sending their children to foreign schools nd so on.
I laughed.🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂. Baba, u too funny.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QueenNyakim: 9:09pm On Jun 04, 2023
Saddamochieng00:


We can't move forward with people like you looking down on others simply because of their beliefs. wink There are a myriad of factors on why we're still undeveloped and I bet you religion is rock bottom.

Its not me looking down but the fact most African governments with misplaced priorities are either promoting or focusing on fictional stories (religion) like Ghana for example whose president blatantly lied and took the taxpayers money so Nana Akufo-Addo could build himself a national cathedral. It was so controversial that majority of Ghanaians were rightfully pissed. President NPP goons responded by calling majority of Ghanaians anti-Christian for being against the project. $65 million ($100 million amid record inflation) would of been better spent elsewhere but thats what happens when you elect a clown to manage your finance and run it into bankruptcy so expect a full on circus.

This would be apart of your "myriad of factors", a big one at that.

Also, if it wasn't obvious enough, I'm not religious. Believing in a god, you may as well believe in Jedi and the Force as well because they have as much evidence as the tooth fairy meaning none at all.

Last time I checked, my previous comments have been praising and defending Kenya.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QueenNyakim: 10:13pm On Jun 04, 2023
Shma2023:
UAE should be his case study. Those guys are hard-core believers. How is religion affecting development? We're not in stone age era where people could pray for everything. People work f*king hard, while going to churches and mosques. Most people believe. The mindset is what Aids development. No engineer will pray for skyscrapers to sprout out without making an effort to spend and work!

Lol, bruh.

Arab countries like Dubai, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar economies are based on oil, they are oil dependant countries. When prices go up, their people do better. America made it rich by tying the oil to the dollar and the US dollar being the only world reserve currency everyone trades in.

No Saudi will ever trade their oil in Yuan, where the hell would they even spend it? No one wants to hold Yuan so they will just convert it to dollars. Don't bother even mentioning BRICS either, the organization is a complete joke despite the propaganda you hear about it.

Brazil has gotten poorer since 2010.
Russia is collapsing under brutal US and EU sanctions.
China has a stagnant economy and a population crisis.
South Africa is a failed State.

Only India can be argued to have a bright future even that is doubtful. Not to mention the major differences and political turmoil between China and India I'm surprised that India hasn't left org yet.

Anyway, renewable energy will cause a decline in demand for traditional fossil fuels, ultimately leading to a decrease in oil prices meaning these countries are f*cked if they dont diversify their economies. Dangote Oil Refinery came late to the game when countries are in the middle of making the transfer from fossil fuels to Renewable. If Dangote is smart, he would have a plan in place to make the transition to green like many other oil companies are doing.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QueenNyakim: 11:41pm On Jun 04, 2023
Shma2023:

How do you explain your existence on Earth? Are you a creator or a creation?

Is the education you recieved in your home country not teach biology Science? If so, thats pretty concerning.

My only creators are my mother and father not your imaginary friend, bro.

What I know is that all creations have a creator.

Yep, biological creatures are created through natural sexual intercourse.

How were you conformed to walk on two legs with balance, think, have emotions and sympathy, string a sentence DIBUNKING THE EXISTANCE A SUPREME BEING

Wut?

Babies learn to walk via practice with “assisted walking” from your parents. Emotions are created by the brain, they are a product of biochemical functions connecting a situation with innate and learned schemas, which elicit a physiological response which we proceed to appraise. It is our perception of these processes that we call emotions. Inshort, emotions are chemical reactions.

Such as emotion of love, a chemical compound that compels our instinctual need to breed and pass on our genes ensuring our species survival.

Our morals do not come from your religion. If you actually took time to read whatever book you own with a open and critical mind, you would realise assuming your Christian how immoral of a god you worship. Human morals/ethics developed by society & have improved over time through millennia of trial & error. Humans act in cooperation & in groups, they tend toward higher accuracy than as individuals when deciding on actions affecting the group members. No, we didn't get it from your book, sorry. Inshort, from logic and reason.

It is not my job to prove the existence of a god(s), the one making the claim of "x" thing exist falls onto the claimant, the burden of proof is on you also bible verses are not evidence either so dont even try it.

Do you think you were on earth by a mistake or do you think Quontum science is the reason for your existence? Do you really think you came from oblion and now you're superior to all creations and now you're "GOD"? because by definition, God is the supreme and almighty reality.

Yes, Life happened by chance.

All life descends from single cell organisms that were created by several chemical compounds deep within our oceans later evolved over the span of 3 billion years to where we are today. Beautiful, is it not? There is no meaning or purpose and we certainly dont need one provided by someones imaginary friend. We create our own meaning in our lives. We only live once so make the most of it.

As for Big Bang theory. Science doesn't claim to know what happened before the Big Bang but there are multiple theories including Quantum fluctuations. Like rogue waves from a calm sea. Just a function of the system.

I could easily say who created God. Your typical religious nonsense would be "god always existed" but that is not an answer nor is it possible. Your basically just moving the problem of not answering it but he/she/it doesn't exist.

You think the universe could have order; no collusion because of the existence of science? So science in its terms is eternal? So who is feeding science with the ideas of emotions and intelligence in humans? What makes you dream or wallow in fantasy; science? Heck! Humans are great philosophers, metaphysicians, Mathematicians, programmers, and name them... Do you think all those aspects could come from nothing?

Read the above.

If science is your god then the JOKE IS ON YOU. Don't call us delusional for believing in a supreme being. Some of us used to be hard-core ANTI-BELIVERS until we got knowledge.

If you believe something without evidence then yes, you are delusional and gullible. There is no need to get bent out of shape. Also, why would I think Science is my god, lol? Its not a belief, Science is purely "the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained".

Religion is based on faith not evidence hence why its seeing a major decline in the rest of the world except for Africa where quality of education so happens to be really bad and your comment is proof of that.

If you hate Science so much, I suggest maybe throwing away your computer and while your at it, all other technology you use.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by QueenNyakim: 12:07am On Jun 05, 2023
theenchanter:
that's quite rude to believers.... Learn to respect everyone's choice.

I'm also not a believer, but I would never say such.

No, you are right. It was certainly uncalled for I guess but you gotta admit~

Calling people woke for not believing in nonsense is probably the most hilarious use of the word I have heard from a theist so far. Anyway, I'm out~

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 4:14am On Jun 05, 2023
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 4:39am On Jun 05, 2023
QueenNyakim:


There is no meaning or purpose and we certainly dont need one provided by someones imaginary friend. We create our own meaning in our lives. We only live once so make the most of it.

Is the debate you're having with us not meaningless too?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 4:50am On Jun 05, 2023
Shma2023:

My issue with them is specifically on how they demean believers in regard to their cerebral capacity.

Yes you can be atheist without necessarily being blasphemous. And as I pointed out with Oba it's the fake wokeness and putting themselves on a pedestal that puts most of us off.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 5:54am On Jun 05, 2023
Nigeria gov should reduce over borrowing from local banks so the banks awash with deposits will lend to private sector and households. It that simple. Also stop money printing n focus on collecting revenue so as reduce inflation n interest rate.You print money ,inflation rises n so will interest rate..n that mean few will borrow. In short Tinubu gov must be prudent and slowly the pain n poverty will go away
QuietMynd:

Ok u re right tho, but expanding the credit system to the middle class will stretch the system thin, because I don't see people living in Victoria Island, ikoyi nd Co needing govt support to purchase anything since majority re successful entrepreneurs already.
Like I said earlier including them will only make the system uneffective for the lower class nd below.
We both know wat the middle class will be using the system to purchase is luxury goods.
I will say they re the problem to Nigeria forex problem already since the poor man don't use dollar, I doubt if majority knows how a dollar bill looks like, the middle class re the ones buying usless things with the limited fx we make like importing American pizza 🍕, sending their children to foreign schools nd so on.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp20182: 5:57am On Jun 05, 2023
Saddamochieng00:


Yes you can be atheist without necessarily being blasphemous. And as I pointed out with Oba it's the fake wokeness and putting themselves on a pedestal that puts most of us off.
That being agnostic. If you're atheist like me for many years you've pretty much ruled out the presence of gods. I started as church going youth,started doubting religion , became unsure or agnostic , finally as years passed I am certain that religion is BS in its entirety. I don't even argue nowadays. I don't mind my wife n kids going to church. They also learnt to respect my thinking.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 6:40am On Jun 05, 2023
rvp20182:
That being agnostic. If you're atheist like me for many years you've pretty much ruled out the presence of gods. I started as church going youth,started doubting religion , became unsure or agnostic , finally as years passed I am certain that religion is BS in its entirety. I don't even argue nowadays. I don't mind my wife n kids going to church. They also learnt to respect my thinking.

That's interesting. Aren't you worried sometimes of what the repurcussions might be if your worldview was wrong. On my side I don't have to worry because if I was wrong then I wouldn't have to face eternal condemnation. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 6:50am On Jun 05, 2023
Saddamochieng00:


That's interesting. Aren't you worried sometimes of what the repurcussions might be if your worldview was wrong. On my side I don't have to worry because if I was wrong then I wouldn't have to face eternal condemnation. grin
Why should he face eternal condemnation because he doesn't believe in religion?
This your thinking was expoused previously in the 19th century by the philosopher Paschal (I believe).

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 7:03am On Jun 05, 2023
rvp20182:
That being agnostic. If you're atheist like me for many years you've pretty much ruled out the presence of gods. I started as church going youth,started doubting religion , became unsure or agnostic , finally as years passed I am certain that religion is BS in its entirety. I don't even argue nowadays. I don't mind my wife n kids going to church. They also learnt to respect my thinking.
From day one I knew you to be problematic. How come you don't feel anything?
I think a fella like u deserves a whipping. You have brought a curse in a land.Those Turkana fellows who lacks rain are not to blame,all the blame should go into you for denying God.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 7:05am On Jun 05, 2023
GeneralDae:

Why should he face eternal condemnation because he doesn't believe in religion?
This your thinking was expoused previously in the 19th century by the philosopher Paschal (I believe).

I never said that. Go back and understand. I only wanted to know if he banks on his worldview to be correct in the end because he doesn't seem to pay too much mind to this question.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 7:06am On Jun 05, 2023
Saddamochieng00:


I never said that. Go back and understand. I only wanted to know if he banks on his worldview to be correct in the end because he doesn't seem to pay too much mind to this question.
Why should that particular worldview be so important that he should fear for eternal condemnation?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 7:09am On Jun 05, 2023
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 7:13am On Jun 05, 2023
GeneralDae:

Why should he face eternal condemnation because he doesn't believe in religion?
This your thinking was expoused previously in the 19th century by the philosopher Paschal (I believe).
I think we are just making things hard for ourselves here.
God is a spiritual being,while ourselves are in flesh.
It's now illogic to try change a spiritual being into a freshly being so ghat those who are in flesh could see him and prove his existence.

And this spiritual God won't hesitate to punish on the judgement day those who denied him. That is a spiritual law.

What we should always know is,Faith don't come to us by chance.Faith is a choice. You choose to believe God or not. By choosing to not believing in him,that is,in spiritual realms,equates to hating God,and that deserves eternal punishment.

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