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Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Asswipemod: 8:40am On Jun 05, 2023 |
seunmsg: Ironi o! Kadoso, you mean it?😊😊 |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by DaddyJapan(m): 8:41am On Jun 05, 2023 |
April4th: So my disquiet over an apology for Jonathan means I approve of Buhari's own stewardship bah? Nah which school you take learn critical thinking skills again? |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by April4th(m): 8:44am On Jun 05, 2023 |
DaddyJapan: Why is it that all you APC apologist love attacking the messenger instead of listening to the message? I raised a very valid point, instead of you to counter my claims you chose to attack my person. Just goes to show you how shallow you people think. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by DaddyJapan(m): 8:55am On Jun 05, 2023 |
April4th: Ha, I see your problem clearly now - binary thinking. P.S - SERAP tasks Tinubu on probe of alleged mismanaged $2.1b, N3.1tr fuel, subsidy funds |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by April4th(m): 8:59am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Reference: Subsidies didn't kill the refineries, but corruption and gross incompetence. Go to warri refinery, it's working. They just abandon it and collect billions of dollars for turn around maintenance. The money the government has spent so far on maintaining our refineries, would've built more and up to date ones. I've worked in the oil and gas sector for over 20years, anybody that says our refineries are not working is a big thief. Same way they run Delta steel company aground, spent billions of dollars trying to revive it but to no avail. Obasanjo sold it to Acelor Mittal, the Indian steel magnate and within 1 week they were rolling out steel from their plant again until the government of Yaradua reverse the sale. Now the steel plant has gone back to dormancy. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by April4th(m): 9:01am On Jun 05, 2023 |
2mch: Your generation and father is mad. I nor blame you, na the person wey buy you data I blame. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by AFONAMARO: 9:03am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Zxcvbnmghtr: And you now trust the government of the day? I mean, same people that fought for it to be retained simply because, they weren't in control. Now that they are, they're singing a new song. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by April4th(m): 9:05am On Jun 05, 2023 |
DaddyJapan: So how many people or companies has the president probed for subsidy fraud? Secondly, is the FG supposed to wait for SERAP to remind them of their constitutional roles and duties? |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by DaddyJapan(m): 9:08am On Jun 05, 2023 |
April4th: Do you know what a straw man argument is? First you declare me an APC acolyte for daring to draw attention to Jonathan's incompetence, and now you are asking me to answer for the current/previous administration? You clearly don't think it is possible to walk and chew at the same time without tripping over. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by diogo23: 9:11am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Zxcvbnmghtr:Where do you stand now idiot |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by diogo23: 9:12am On Jun 05, 2023 |
[quote author=femisplash post=123569396]Atedo is a clown, nobody will apologise to any failures. GEJ removed subsidy partially and fuel price went up from 65 to 97 naira. stop making it sound like GEJ did not remove subsidy at all.[k/quote] Now your ancestor have taken over fuel is 1000 a litter |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Kekenary: 9:14am On Jun 05, 2023 |
So you trust the present government abi? Double standards Kee you there.. Zxcvbnmghtr: |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by dettolgel: 9:21am On Jun 05, 2023 |
seunmsg: Maybe I missed something, during the last 8 years even with the partial remover there was nothing to show for it and if I may ask where was your "rage" or "uprising"? Given your antecedent who would think that this time around would be different? 1 Like |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Magnetic010: 9:25am On Jun 05, 2023 |
seunmsg:But sir Nigeria as a nation removed subsidy from diesel, kerosene and even gas if I’m not mistaken- do any of us know where the Monies saved went into sir? No we don’t. The immediate past administration cut off from the amount paid as subsidy also but where was the saved money channeled into? We have no idea Nigeria leaders have antecedent of corruption and waste so forgive me if I find it very very difficult to trust anyone at the helm of affairs. This new government will remove the subsidy nothing anyone can do about it but one thing I know for sure is you won’t see anything positive they do with the supposedly saved money- and that is my biggest quarrel with the entire thing…hope you get my point sir |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Magnetic010: 9:30am On Jun 05, 2023 |
simfrost90210:They are two refineries in port-harcourt though I doubt if any is working at the moment |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by dettolgel: 9:33am On Jun 05, 2023 |
DaddyJapan: I think there is a problem with your thought process or this issue, I don't want to use the word binary, but you didn't think it true before typing. The issue here is not about the corruption or non-corruption in GEJ administration but about a policy that he wanted to implement and was "persecuted" for it. I think the idea of the apology is an avenue for people to accept that they were wrong and this I think would create a sense of humility in our society that anyone could make a mistake and can also retrace their steps. Nigerian are the only people that when accosted with their mistakes instead of apologizing they will double down and find a way out. In Nigeria we think that accepting one's mistake is a sign of weakness, but in reality it is actually a sign of strength. In a sane clime people will accept their errors in judgment, apologies and move on. The good thing with such behavior is that you are teaching the young ones that mistake is part of life, if you happen to make one, it is okay to accept your fault apologies and learn from it. Accepting one's error is not a sign of weakness. Instead of accepting that pushing against it back then was an error of judgement, like you guys are doing we can shift from it and start talking about corruption then. The problem with people that would rather shift the conversation to issue of corruption then, is that none of them are ready to talk about the corruption that plague the nation in the last 8 years. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Clobisman(m): 9:34am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Zxcvbnmghtr:So what has changed between then and now? Do Nigerians now trust the present government? |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Olamlag(m): 9:35am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Its so ironic that everyone kept saying that its only the rich that benefits from subsidy, but now that it has been removed the poor are the ones suffering. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Clobisman(m): 9:36am On Jun 05, 2023 |
femisplash: Weakling like you hide behind their phones to insult their destiny helpers without thinking. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by DOM7: 9:43am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Only tribal demons will disagree with him, the excuse of we did not trust the government of that time sounds satanic for you to trust this one. The man that led the protest then was given the opportunity for eight years!!! But failed to do it only to ambushed his type if not worse. Let the demons start the attack I am covered! |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by slowice(m): 9:43am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Zxcvbnmghtr: You must slow down with that 95% figure you are throwing around. Those deceived yorubas with sprinkle other groups with corrupt interest doesn't represent 95% of Nigerians. You people were simply deceived and naive |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Tekzyflex(m): 10:01am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Traplord09: I swear down |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by es144000: 10:05am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Zxcvbnmghtr:It is this government Nigerians will trust with the character of the person we have ad president?Nigerians and tribalism. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Elibaba1: 10:05am On Jun 05, 2023 |
femisplash: 97-65=32 (GEJ) 550-189=361(BAT) You are a big fool. |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by seunmsg(m): 10:08am On Jun 05, 2023 |
obi58: We’ve spend more than what Dangote used to build his own refinery to turn around our old refineries but they are still as dead as dodo. Spending money on the refineries is just like sinking money into a bottomless pit. It has never worked since 1999 and it won’t work. We must sell those refineries immediately and allow private investors handle the sector. 1 Like |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Gaskiya77: 10:18am On Jun 05, 2023 |
The truth indeed. For those who kicked against the removal of subsidy during Goodluck Jonathan's regime should tender apologies to him. People like Buhari, el- rufai including the sitting president Asiwaju and all those who came out to protest against PDP in 2015. People should learn to be accountable for their actions. Why do Nigerians fight against good people and policies but keep mum over wicked people and policies? |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by seunmsg(m): 10:19am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Jiggyronnie: Maybe I really don’t get what you’re arguing about because my post clearly allude to the fact that petrol should be cheaper when refined locally than when imported. Your initially argument was that there will be no subsidy once we refine petrol locally and I corrected that impression that subsidy is not a function of local refining or importation but a direct result of price fixing by government. If Dangote for example refines locally at a cost plus profit of N300 per liter and government fixed the price at N195, there will still be a subsidy element of N105 that government will have to bear to sustain the fixed price. It is also not true that removal of subsidy started in 2012. We’ve been talking about removal of subsidy since the IBB administration. All the price increment under Obasanjo was about a gradual removal of subsidy. Jonathan only attempted to remove everything at once in 2012. So, it is nothing new truly but it dates far beyond 2012. 2 Likes |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by simfrost90210: 10:32am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Magnetic010: Oh Oh Oh.. I never knew it is two in PHC .., they're all being serviced according to the FG but the supposed two refineries there in PHC are neither functional nor operational😕 1 Like |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by iamjavadem(m): 10:32am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Nope we did not know any better. Do we trust currently government too? Zxcvbnmghtr: |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Nobody: 10:36am On Jun 05, 2023 |
slivertongue:
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Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by hedonido: 10:37am On Jun 05, 2023 |
Zxcvbnmghtr: Oily mouthed idiot. You did not trust the government of the day, so it is your useless Tinubu that we should trust now? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Apologise To Jonathan, Okonjo-Iweala - Peterside To 2012 Subsidy Removal Critics by Nobody: 10:38am On Jun 05, 2023 |
seunmsg: Fat lie! If subsidy was removed then in 2012, by now things would have normalized and everyone would be smiling |
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