Luzebox:
Christainity is not about morality...if u dont believe u burn...even if u do more good to the world ..if u kill 50 million people and at the last hour u ask for forgiveness and cry your eye to the lord thee God...u go to heaven...and if u lie to save you mother,wife,child and 50 million others ..you burn in hell ...

That's not what christianity is but what fanatics want to believe.
Unfortunately fanatics in christianity are much.

rvp20182:
That being agnostic. If you're atheist like me for many years you've pretty much ruled out the presence of gods. I started as church going youth,started doubting religion , became unsure or agnostic , finally as years passed I am certain that religion is BS in its entirety. I don't even argue nowadays. I don't mind my wife n kids going to church. They also learnt to respect my thinking.

💯❤️

QueenNyakim:


Is the education you recieved in your home country not teach biology Science? If so, thats pretty concerning.

My only creators are my mother and father not your imaginary friend, bro.



Yep, biological creatures are created through natural sexual intercourse.



Wut?

Babies learn to walk via practice with “assisted walking” from your parents. Emotions are created by the brain, they are a product of biochemical functions connecting a situation with innate and learned schemas, which elicit a physiological response which we proceed to appraise. It is our perception of these processes that we call emotions. Inshort, emotions are chemical reactions.

Such as emotion of love, a chemical compound that compels our instinctual need to breed and pass on our genes ensuring our species survival.

Our morals do not come from your religion. If you actually took time to read whatever book you own with a open and critical mind, you would realise assuming your Christian how immoral of a god you worship. Human morals/ethics developed by society & have improved over time through millennia of trial & error. Humans act in cooperation & in groups, they tend toward higher accuracy than as individuals when deciding on actions affecting the group members. No, we didn't get it from your book, sorry. Inshort, from logic and reason.

It is not my job to prove the existence of a god(s), the one making the claim of "x" thing exist falls onto the claimant, the burden of proof is on you also bible verses are not evidence either so dont even try it.



Yes, Life happened by chance.

All life descends from single cell organisms that were created by several chemical compounds deep within our oceans later evolved over the span of 3 billion years to where we are today. Beautiful, is it not? There is no meaning or purpose and we certainly dont need one provided by someones imaginary friend. We create our own meaning in our lives. We only live once so make the most of it.

As for Big Bang theory. Science doesn't claim to know what happened before the Big Bang but there are multiple theories including Quantum fluctuations. Like rogue waves from a calm sea. Just a function of the system.

I could easily say who created God. Your typical religious nonsense would be "god always existed" but that is not an answer nor is it possible. Your basically just moving the problem of not answering it but he/she/it doesn't exist.



Read the above.



If you believe something without evidence then yes, you are delusional and gullible. There is no need to get bent out of shape. Also, why would I think Science is my god, lol? Its not a belief, Science is purely "the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained".

Religion is based on faith not evidence hence why its seeing a major decline in the rest of the world except for Africa where quality of education so happens to be really bad and your comment is proof of that.

If you hate Science so much, I suggest maybe throwing away your computer and while your at it, all other technology you use.

You're wise!

Religion was created by man to control the gullible.

Kazikazi:
What have u smoked? Grass?

Worry about Tanzania and Tanzanians. I won't ask you again nicely.

gallivant:


Worry about Tanzania and Tanzanians. I won't ask you again nicely.

These commercial loans are a disaster

Confession time

I don't see this happening

They are - but these are desperate times where gov priority is to secure forex. Once the storm is over - we should avoid such debts as much as possible.

Kazikazi:
These commercial loans are a disaster

You're looking for validation from any angle including that guy who by looks alone is quite unlettered.

Kazikazi:

Confession time

Somali are joining then we get Ethiopia. We can then kick you out if we want. We cant have lazy fools stalling EAC. We just need Ethiopia - and we have 500M people. We move HQ to Nairobi - and you join SADC fully where you're more happier.

Kazikazi:
I don't see this happening

rvp20182:
They are - but these are desperate times where gov priority is to secure forex. Once the storm is over - we should avoid such debts as much as possible.

How will this storm be over while u busy taking expensive loans?
Surely you are putting yourselves into a "perfect storm"

rvp20182:
Somali are joining then we get Ethiopia. We can then kick you out if we want. We cant have lazy fools stalling EAC. We just need Ethiopia - and we have 500M people. We move HQ to Nairobi - and you join SADC fully where you're more happier.

Your madness is back..
Are u counting those Somali terrorists as pals?
In my honest view,Somali shouldn't be allowed to be part of EAC.This EAC is now becoming a terrorism den.

Anyway If TZ is out of EAC,then it will just collapse. You remember that funny idea of COW? Where is CoW now? Without TZ,nothing will work out

Honestly, shouldn't Kenya follow some examples from Nigeria? Apparently, Ruto did ban the exportation of tea in its raw state to boost revenue for tea farmers and to create jobs. Agriculture dominates a large part of the Kenyan nominal GDP and makes up for most of its rural workforce.

According to the data (I dont know how old the data is) I did find, the Kenyan tea pickers made about £24 per month on average, which is honestly downright criminal despite Kenya being the third largest tea exporter.

https://waronwant.org/sites/default/files/A%20Bitter%20Cup.pdf
https://www.statista.com/statistics/264189/main-export-countries-for-tea-worldwide/

QueenNyakim:
Honestly, shouldn't Kenya follow some examples from Nigeria? Apparently, Ruto did ban the exportation of tea in its raw state to boost revenue for tea farmers and to create jobs. Agriculture dominates a large part of the Kenyan nominal GDP and makes up for most of its rural workforce.

According to the data (I dont know how old the data is) I did find, the Kenyan tea pickers made about £24 per month on average, which is honestly downright criminal despite Kenya being the third largest tea exporter.

https://waronwant.org/sites/default/files/A%20Bitter%20Cup.pdf
https://www.statista.com/statistics/264189/main-export-countries-for-tea-worldwide/

Are U a nigerian or Ghanian?

tsdarkside:
is it true that europeans are pluggin out trees in kenya and transportin them to europe....

I wouldn’t be surprised much of Kenya is already owned directly or indirectly by Europeans abroad and the local elite euro minority class. It’s pretty sad. Kenya is increasingly everybodies colony but the Kenyans who don’t seem to care to much. Kenya is like a cheap prostitute to the westerners, Israelis, Arabs, Indians, Chinese etc.

AskiaHarem:


I wouldn’t be surprised much of Kenya is already owned directly or indirectly by Europeans abroad and the local elite euro minority class. It’s pretty sad. Kenya is increasingly everybodies colony but the Kenyans who don’t seem to care to much. Kenya is like a cheap prostitute to the westerners, Israelis, Arabs, Indians, Chinese etc.

Kenyans love foreigners generally. This can be both a good thing and a bad thing.
It is good because it has enabled them allow foreigners settle to attract some kind of investment like Mpesa, good broadband connectivity, etc very much like in Southern Africa.
It can also be disadvantageous because of what you pointed out, but this can be controlled by the Government.

All those atheists, my question is. What if you are wrong? Besides, you have nothing to lose believing in God while you have a lot to loose not believing in him.

If you die an atheist and you are right, then nothing happens. But if you die an atheist, and you are wrong. You will burn in hell.

While a Muslim (I will use Muslim because I am a Muslim) who believes in God dies and is right. He enjoy Paradise.

But if he the (Muslim) dies and his wrong, nothing happens.

Besides, none of you can outright prove that God dosen't exist. You just can not prove it. Any thing you say are just theories.

Think about it

dreamxhaser:
All those atheists, my question is. What if you are wrong? Besides, you have nothing to lose believing in God while you have a lot to loose not believing in him.

If you die an atheist and you are right, then nothing happens. But if you die an atheist, and you are wrong. You will burn in hell.

While a Muslim (I will use Muslim because I am a Muslim) who believes in God dies and is right. He enjoy Paradise.

But if he the (Muslim) dies and his wrong, nothing happens.

Besides, none of you can outright prove that God dosen't exist. You just can not prove it. Any thing you say are just theories.

Think about it

let it rest.

Appisko:
Are U a nigerian or Ghanian?

Dunno why it matters whether I'm Ghanaian or Nigerian but...

I'm actually British, black. Descendant of bajan slaves. DNA wise (test), i'm descended from the Yoruba people in Nigeria while using South Sudanese, Dinka name.

AskiaHarem:


I wouldn’t be surprised much of Kenya is already owned directly or indirectly by Europeans abroad and the local elite euro minority class. It’s pretty sad. Kenya is increasingly everybodies colony but the Kenyans who don’t seem to care to much. Kenya is like a cheap prostitute to the westerners, Israelis, Arabs, Indians, Chinese etc.

hmm....i always thought this their friendly nature would be used against them....its realy happenin and they dont know how to handle it or just completly accepted it....

you need to see how they treat them bad in europe....discrimination is against all blacks but against kenyans is bad....
when even me a nigerian has to stand firm for kenyans then you can imagine how bad....

they dont understand to defend themselves....too friendly....

QueenNyakim:



Dunno why it matters whether I'm Ghanaian or Nigerian but...

I'm actually British, black. Descendant of bajan slaves. DNA wise (test), i'm descended from the Yoruba people in Nigeria while using South Sudanese, Dinka name.

This now leaves me even more confused.

tsdarkside:


hmm....i always thought this their friendly nature would be used against them....its realy happenin and they dont know how to handle it or just completly accepted it....

you need to see how they treat them bad in europe....discrimination is against all blacks but against kenyans is bad....
when even me a nigerian has to stand firm for kenyans then you can imagine how bad....

they dont understand to defend themselves....too friendly....

But it seems to happen all over Africa since China started their BRI though I have been hearing less about it in recent years.

The alchemist club run by a Korean in Nairobi had his merchant license revoked after practicing some South African style apartheid shit. Consider the fact that only happened during election time when governor was re-running to stay in her position. So, it was just a tactic to win votes.

Ruto did the same thing by drumming up anti-Chinese sentiment in the country to win masses votes. Also, fact Nairobi merchants had a recent protest wanting chinese gone.

GeneralDae:

This now leaves me even more confused.

My ancestors bought to Barbados during the trans-Atlantic slave trade were from the modern-day country of Nigeria, southwest of the country where Yoruba people originate and Oyo empire.

After WW2, the British asked those within the commonwealth to come and help rebuild the UK's economy, from those who immigrated from the carribean, this is known as the windrush generation my grandmother and mother were apart of. Surely you must have heard how UK home secretary tried to deport them and horribly backfired leading to a national apology and people affected given reparations.

I, myself, was born in the UK. I'm using a Dinka name as my display name, "Nyakim". Yes, I ultimately descend from Nigerians.

QueenNyakim:


But it seems to happen all over Africa since China started their BRI though I have been hearing less about it in recent years.

The alchemist club run by a Korean in Nairobi had his merchant license revoked after practicing some South African style apartheid shit. Consider the fact that only happened during election time when governor was re-running to stay in her position. So, it was just a tactic to win votes.

Ruto did the same thing by drumming up anti-Chinese sentiment in the country to win masses votes. Also, fact Nairobi merchants had a recent protest wanting chinese gone.

they should stop trying to please everybody in the world,especialy none blacks....
why do they think everybody want to have nukes....??

its not realy to use it,but to show bullies to dont mess with me....

africa is ours....!!
we cant allow them to come to our place to be practisin what they practice by them at home too....!!

the more the common people come toghether and say enough is enough,the more african leaders will grow balls too....

dreamxhaser:
All those atheists, my question is. What if you are wrong? Besides, you have nothing to lose believing in God while you have a lot to loose not believing in him.

If you die an atheist and you are right, then nothing happens. But if you die an atheist, and you are wrong. You will burn in hell.

While a Muslim (I will use Muslim because I am a Muslim) who believes in God dies and is right. He enjoy Paradise.

But if he the (Muslim) dies and his wrong, nothing happens.

Besides, none of you can outright prove that God dosen't exist. You just can not prove it. Any thing you say are just theories.

Think about it

What if God actually exists but only atheists would be allowed into heaven? I find it bizarre how theists like you never think about that possibility. like we die and God goes "HopefulLandlord, I exist but the test is to weed out those that would believe something on no evidence, you passed. you may pass"

I guess you would find the thought highly disturbing lol

tsdarkside:


they should stop trying to please everybody in the world,especialy none blacks....
why do they think everybody want to have nukes....??

its not realy to use it,but to show bullies to dont mess with me....

africa is ours....!!
we cant allow them to come to our place to be practisin what they practice by them at home too....!!

the more the common people come toghether and say enough is enough,the more african leaders will grow balls too....

Its no different from the Caribbean, you know?

Our hospitality seems to be our downfall, the moment our ancestors had let these foreigners in and before we knew it, our people were being horded off as slaves from west to east, land taken, being forced to side in their wars or threaten with sanctions, and now presently abused by said foreigners in our lands and complete disrespect of a country sovereignty like whats happening to Uganda right now.

I dont have anything against gay people nor do I believe they should be killed or rather it shouldn't be anyones business what gay people do behind closed doors but America taking away aid from Uganda and threatening them with economic sanctions while they turn a blind eye away from their friends in Saudi Arabia and the rest of the middle east that have laws to execute gay people too reeks of utter hypocrisy. Plus sanctions will only further the hate against the LGBT and ordinary people will suffer the most.

QueenNyakim:


I believe I already gave you the definiton of what Science is and Biology explains how life on earth began and evolved. Rest of your comment can be dismissed as religious babble backed by no evidence of your claims.

I will be brief with you.

Science is a systematic study of structures and behaviors of physical and natural world through observation, experimentation and testing of theories against evidence produced. Thus say, science doesn't create, prove nor disaprove the existence of Creator! This makes your point dull and blank.


Oh boy.

Make sure to actually read what I said. Theory of Evolution explains this pretty well actually, Humans are one of many species of hominid primates. We evolved from other animals that can be traced back down to single cell organisms 3 billion years ago.

Do I really know what really God is exactly? Nope! I can't possibly dicipher his general looks because I believe he exists. That's pretty much above any humans pay grade; it's like thinking about the infinity of universe. However; I can fathom his existence through reading and sojourning into spiritual realm. Human can fantasize, dream, think, visualize, make perception name them... This is above the working capacity of scientists. Theory and observation FI, the Cosmos reality, can give be a picture that could debunk the non-existence of a creator.
It buffles me how a normal human could believe humans originated from animals DNA, a whopping 3 billion years ago. It's embarrasing to say the least; especially coming from someone claiming to know science.

Whats astounding though is the fact that you know that the female o ovum needs a male sperm to fertilize the egg to produce life but then you start bringing your religious dogma that life needed a creator which I have already debunked.

Again, what is science?

Science only explain the existence of natural forces. It has nothing to do with creation. Mating can't be natural without forces behind it. Nothing comes from nothingness.

So, yes. My parents essentially are my creators, they are the ones who birthed into being not your genie wish granting friend in the sky.

Your parents can't be your creator. If they are then they are your ",god" if your parents created you, why did they created you dumber than them? Sorry, I mean no offence. Who might created your parents then? The pyramidic law of humans will teach you that there is one human on top of the chain; the law didn't knowingly created a female out of curiosity! The law was perfect; it knew there must be somebody with a virgina; a womb and breast to carry, give birth and nurture the baby. That thing can't come from guessmatics of nature and science! Go and study Cosmos reality theorem.

Basically, your entire statement comes down to "Haha, you can't prove God doesn't exist either!" which is a typical theist argument and when asked for proof, they default to "just look around you for evidence". No, I can't prove god doesn't exist, no one can prove god doesn't exist nor can anyone prove Hogwarts doesn't exist either but I can say I see no evidence for a god so I see no reason to believe in your god. It is that simple.

If you still can't see anything, there is no way I can prove to you anything. Only open minded people could seek the truth_ Peterson for instance; came to know the creator because he was open minded. This will require to make an extra step in spiritual realm and monitor the progress. I know philosophy and science won't work for you.

This is what Eistein said

" my religion consist of humble admiration of inimitable superior spirit who revel himself in sight of details we're able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind_. /. Everyone who is seriously involved in pursuit of science becomes convinced that the spirit is manifested in the laws of the universe - a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble"

Also, this is not how any of this works. You got to provide evidence for your assertion to prove to me that your god exists. You are the original claimant, It is not my job to look for it myself.That is how debates work and basis of innocent-until-proven-guilty in the law of court.

I'm not going to keep going round in circles with you about this especially considering you have next to no knowledge on anything Science related.

You're yet to debunk the impossibility of non-creted universe.
You're yet to debunk the impossibility of cosmos reality.
You're yet to debunk the impossibility of infinity creatures.
You are yet to prove initial point of human existance_ DON'T PULL FOR ME THE 3billion-year-old animal theorem_ because if so, something is behind it; which you're yet to prove.
You're just making point blank for the sake of wokeness. Don't think being an Atheist will make people perceive you as intelligent and Modern literate.

QueenNyakim:


Its no different from the Caribbean, you know?

Our hospitality seems to be our downfall, the moment our ancestors had let these foreigners in and before we knew it, our people were being horded off as slaves from west to east, land taken, being forced to side in their wars or threaten with sanctions, and now presently abused by said foreigners in our lands and complete disrespect of a country sovereignty like whats happening to Uganda right now.

I dont have anything against gay people nor do I believe they should be killed or rather it shouldn't be anyones business what gay people do behind closed doors but America taking away aid from Uganda and threatening them with economic sanctions while they turn a blind eye away from their friends in Saudi Arabia and the rest of the middle east that have laws to execute gay people too reeks of utter hypocrisy. Plus sanctions will only further the hate against the LGBT and ordinary people will suffer the most.

nobody in africa took that gay stuff that serious before....
we always heard about it,but didnt condoled it neither even went against them....

this is a mental thing....
it absolutly makes no sense....

Saddamochieng00:


Yes you can be atheist without necessarily being blasphemous. And as I pointed out with Oba it's the fake wokeness and putting themselves on a pedestal that puts most of us off.

Correct. I'm glad we're on the same side this time😅

hopefulLandlord:

What if God actually exists but only atheists would be allowed into heaven? I find it bizarre how theists like you never think about that possibility. like we die and God goes "HopefulLandlord, I exist but the test is to weed out those that would believe something on no evidence, you passed. you may pass"

I guess you would find the thought highly disturbing lol

That dose not even make any sense.

We talking about available possibilites where religions say God exsist and you have belive.

dreamxhaser:


That dose not even make any sense.

We talking about available possibilites where religions say God exsist and you have belive.

exactly, it doesn't make sense, abi?

That's exactly how theists sound when they're trying to make sense out of everything. nobody makes sense to each other, we just have to live and let others live.