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Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 11:03pm On Jun 06, 2023
Steep:
you are far from reality, Jesus is a historical figure.

Are you going to answer my question, yes or no.

It isn't a trick question.

Since by your own wordings, you claim your fictional character to be real, then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove it.

Kindly bear in mind that there's no appetite here for any inconsequential gibberish.

I'm assuming this to be the opportunity you've been craving to substantiate the false narratives that you continue to perpetuate.

Go!

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Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Steep(m): 6:11am On Jun 07, 2023
Amujale:


Are you going to answer my question, yes or no.

It isn't a trick question.

Since by your own wordings, you claim your fictional character to be real, then it shouldn't be hard for you to prove it.

Kindly bear in mind that there's no appetite here for any inconsequential gibberish.

I'm assuming this to be the opportunity you've been craving to substantiate the false narratives that you continue to perpetuate.

Go!

what false narratives, scholars and historians have found that Jesus was an historical person, even atheists, pagans etc they found out that Jesus really lived and walked on this earth.
But you that is ignorant that have done no research declare him as fiction.

Is Mohammad a fiction or an historical person?
Is nelson madela, Christopher Columbus
, Isaac Newton fiction or historical figures?

Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Steep(m): 7:22am On Jun 07, 2023
Fun fact do you know that there are more archeological evidence for the historicity of Jesus than for Julius Ceasar?
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 9:55am On Jun 07, 2023
Steep:

what false narratives, scholars and historians have found that Jesus was an historical person,


The sources you're claiming are based on fakery and falsehood, this isnt a slight to the publisher's, Wikipedia is one of the most unbiased and reliable encyclopedias that exist out there, the point here is directed at your so-called sources, out of what was meant to be hundreds of historians in those days, the only ones that you could come up with in your post was Josephus and Tacitus, coupled with the fact that these are widely known to be problematic and as such rendered as being without any merit.

Josephus was a colourful commentator, the same one credited as the writer who invented the Jesus storyline, eliminating this particular writer out of the discussion.

Tacitus writings are forgeries.

source:

•Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged In The XVth Century authored by John Wilson Ross.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/9098/pg9098.html

There never was a person who walked this Earth called Jesus Christ, all the narratives you're peddling are based on a combination of fakery and falsehood, these are the reasons they're called false narratives.

It's pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 10:05am On Jun 07, 2023
Steep:
....
Is nelson madela, Christopher Columbus
, Isaac Newton fiction or historical figures?


What type of logic is this?

This isnt a question regarding a competition on the number of historical characters any of us can come up with, is it?

It's you claiming that your fictional character is meant to be real, quit buck dancing, and provide us with genuine proof or simply accept the facts as stated earlier.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 10:10am On Jun 07, 2023
Steep:
Fun fact do you know that there are more archeological evidence for the historicity of Jesus than for Julius Ceasar?

Kindly point us to one archaeological evidence for any of your fictional characters, just one.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by GLouis: 11:44am On Jun 07, 2023
superCleanworks:


you are so boring.

Thank God I am not boring hhole on another's anus like you
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Steep(m): 11:48am On Jun 07, 2023
Amujale:


The sources you're claiming are based on fakery and falsehood, this isnt a slight to the publisher's, Wikipedia is one of the most unbiased and reliable encyclopedias that exist out there, the point here is directed at your so-called sources, out of what was meant to be hundreds of historians in those days, the only ones that you could come up with in your post was Josephus and Tacitus, coupled with the fact that these are widely known to be problematic and as such rendered as being without any merit.

Josephus was a colourful commentator, the same one credited as the writer who invented the Jesus storyline, eliminating this particular writer out of the discussion.
Nope you can't eliminate Josephus without any proof,
What is the proof that Josephus invented Jesus story line?

Tacitus writings are forgeries.

source:

•Tacitus and Bracciolini: The Annals Forged In The XVth Century authored by John Wilson Ross.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/9098/pg9098.html
haha, you are one funny clown I have ever met, so all the modern scholars that endorses tacitus as a true historian and writer all all crazy?

There never was a person who walked this Earth called Jesus Christ, all the narratives you're peddling are based on a combination of fakery and falsehood, these are the reasons they're called false narratives.

It's pretty simple, we MUST bin all these foreign extremist ideologies and concentrate our focus on reality.
emotion is not proof.
Scholars and historians generally agree that Jesus is historic person, that actually existed, take not these historians are not even Christians yet.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Steep(m): 11:51am On Jun 07, 2023
Amujale:


What type of logic is this?

This isnt a question regarding a competition on the number of historical characters any of us can come up with, is it?

It's you claiming that your fictional character is meant to be real, quit buck dancing, and provide us with genuine proof or simply accept the facts as stated earlier.






It is your logic, what do you prove a historical document as genuine?
Hope you know that the books of the Gospel are regarded by scholars and historians as genuine but you an ignorant man disagree.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Steep(m): 11:52am On Jun 07, 2023
Amujale:


Kindly point us to one archaeological evidence for any of your fictional characters, just one.

There are tons of evidence that proves the books of the gospel as true.
The primary evidence for Jesus existence are the books of the gospel and archeological evidence points to the book of the gospel as true. Here are a few

Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by superCleanworks(m): 12:12pm On Jun 07, 2023
GLouis:

Thank God I am not boring hhole on another's anus like you

and your god supports slander and false accusations.
you and your god are pathetic. shame on both of you.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Tommydare(m): 12:57pm On Jun 07, 2023
Insignificantly few you say. If science was truly what you claimed it is, there shouldn't be any. Also, science doesn't solve or answer all questions. Religion on the other hand solve some questions or problems science couldn't solve. You know why? Cos everything about life is transcendental. From what you know to what you don't know or ever heard/seen. Even the big bang theory that counters the creation story in the Bible was seriously faulted by many scientists. Thus, it was not reliable and
in anyway should be believed. Do you still think science is all what we need? Yes the inventions and innovations were great but it doesn't solve all our problems. Hence, religion is something man can't avoid.
sotall:


This is a myopic conclusion and doesn't represent the result of mainstream science.
The world as we have it today works and runs on the many science discoveries and inventions.

Yes there are areas of dispute in science or where scientists do not agree but that's very insignificant few.
And with time as more research is done and more knowledge becomes available, everyone comes to an agreeable conclusion.

Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by sotall(m): 1:43pm On Jun 07, 2023
Tommydare:
Insignificantly few you say. If science was truly what you claimed it is, there shouldn't be any. Also, science doesn't solve or answer all questions. Religion on the other hand solve some questions or problems science couldn't solve. You know why? Cos everything about life is transcendental. From what you know to what you don't know or ever heard/seen. Even the big bang theory that counters the creation story in the Bible was seriously faulted by many scientists. Thus, it was not reliable and
in anyway should be believed. Do you still think science is all what we need? Yes the inventions and innovations were great but it doesn't solve all our problems. Hence, religion is something man can't avoid.

Story! Religion haven't solve any problem rather its a major setback for the human race.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Tommydare(m): 1:53pm On Jun 07, 2023
No...it's your mentality that's working. Religion had been in existence since time immemorial. Those that are not religious, what impact or edge do they have over people that are religious? Mind you don't come her and mention china or something. Cos china is home to many religions. Name one country that is not religious and is far ahead of America, China etc.
sotall:


Story! Religion haven't solve any problem rather its a major setback for the human race.

Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by sotall(m): 2:09pm On Jun 07, 2023
Tommydare:
No...it's your mentality that's working. Religion had been in existence since time immemorial. Those that are not religious, what impact or edge do they have over people that are religious? Mind you don't come her and mention china or something. Cos china is home to many religions. Name one country that is not religious and is far ahead of America, China etc.

Religion has not contributed any advancement to the human race rather it has drawn us backward.

The phone you are using right now and the internet that made sure you were able to type your response are all products of science not religion.

Use your head man. Religion is for the mentally lazy.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Tommydare(m): 5:17pm On Jun 07, 2023
So, u think the world revolves around your phone or TV or the internet? Have you ever heard your name but no one is calling? Footsteps in the dark but no one is stalking? Being to the hospital and the doctor confirmed nothing is wrong with you but u know something is wrong with you? Or u will say it's hallucinations? Can your science solve that? Well, some people's problems have been solved spiritually with the help of religion. But if you say problems can't be solved through religion or spirituality or religion is of no value...well, na p8kin wey no know him mama boyfriend dey call am uncle.
sotall:


Religion has not contributed any advancement to the human race rather it has drawn us backward.

The phone you are using right now and the internet that made sure you were able to type your response are all products of science not religion.

Use your head man. Religion is for the mentally lazy.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by sotall(m): 5:29pm On Jun 07, 2023
Tommydare:
So, u think the world revolves around your phone or TV or the internet? Have you ever heard your name but no one is calling? Footsteps in the dark but no one is stalking? Being to the hospital and the doctor confirmed nothing is wrong with you but u know something is wrong with you? Or u will say it's hallucinations? Can your science solve that? Well, some people's problems have been solved spiritually with the help of religion. But if you say problems can't be solved through religion or spirituality or religion is of no value...well, na p8kin wey no know him mama boyfriend dey call am uncle.

See you still being controlled by superstitious beliefs and archaic reasoning.

The world is moving fast into the age of artificial intelligence while you are still cycling around unknown footsteps and voices coming from your head.

Bro you need some basic scientific education
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Tommydare(m): 8:47pm On Jun 07, 2023
Scientific education from who? Anything you
can't prove or your science can't solve you are quick to call it superstition. I dare you to go to go and do what you are not supposed to do in a sango or ogun shrine since it's superstition and see if something no go do you. As for Scientific education, I think you will really need that . I don't blame you sha. U is a super-sized toddler who think life revolves around his mobile phone.
sotall:


See you still being controlled by superstitious beliefs and archaic reasoning.

The world is moving fast into the age of artificial intelligence while you are still cycling around unknown footsteps and voices coming from your head.

Bro you need some basic scientific education
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by GLouis: 7:36am On Jun 08, 2023
superCleanworks:


and your god supports slander and false accusations.
you and your god are pathetic. shame on both of you.

Welcome to the generation of strong faith movement. We are not push overs. So keep your nonsense to your chest.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by superCleanworks(m): 8:43am On Jun 08, 2023
GLouis:
Welcome to the generation of strong faith movement. We are not push overs. So keep your nonsense to your chest.
your god supports slander and false accusations.
you and your god are pathetic. shame on both of you.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by GLouis: 8:48am On Jun 08, 2023
superCleanworks:

your god supports slander and false accusations.
you and your god are pathetic. shame on both of you.

Because you said this, Shame fall on you and it will never be lifted . If you don't want your children to learn about bible take them to non Christian schools.
Don't come and tell us to remove bible from schools. Remove those your children from our school we don't need them.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by superCleanworks(m): 8:54am On Jun 08, 2023
GLouis:

Remove those your children from our school we don't need them.
Exactly what a religious terrorist would say. Jesus must be so ashamed of you right now.
your god supports slander and false accusations.
you and your god are pathetic. shame on both of you.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by GLouis: 8:57am On Jun 08, 2023
superCleanworks:

Exactly what a religious terrorist would say. Jesus must be so ashamed of you right now.
your god supports slander and false accusations.
you and your god are pathetic. shame on both of you.

I curse you. You fake human being. One min you were supporting the removal of bibles. Now you are claiming to know God. God is not ashamed of me. Go and start eating your curse. It will not be lifted.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by superCleanworks(m): 9:18am On Jun 08, 2023
GLouis:

I curse .
you can't give what you don't have. This is all you have.
if you can curse your bank account to have an ADDITIONAL 12 million naira before 12pm tomorrow then I will take you serious. what a deluded child.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 9:25pm On Jun 08, 2023
Steep:

There are tons of evidence that proves the books of the gospel as true.
The primary evidence for Jesus existence are the books of the gospel....

Ignorance isnt said to be bliss on its own accord, yet, once one has experienced the truth, Ignorance cannot be used as an excuse any longer.


You're jumping the ranch, you cannot invoke false narratives as your source and at the same time neglect your responsibility for the authenticity such source.

The Christian bible isn't a history textbook, my advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and instead go and pick up proper history books.

For the umpteenth time, kindly provide us the proof of these fictional characters and false narratives of yours or accept the facts as stated above and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 9:31pm On Jun 08, 2023
Steep:

There are tons of evidence....

Where?

You cannot use your foreign extremist ideology to prove your foreign extremist ideology, wake yourself up when you can't find one archogical evidence of any of your fictional characters.

I suppose this is something you ought to restudy and come back here to make amends to this reaching you have going on.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Steep(m): 9:32pm On Jun 08, 2023
Amujale:


Ignorance isnt said to be bliss on its own accord, yet, once one has experienced the truth, Ignorance cannot be used as an excuse any longer.


You're jumping the ranch, you cannot invoke false narratives as your source and at the same time neglect your responsibility for the validity of such source.

The Christian bible isn't a history textbook, my advice is for you to bin all the nonsense you're currently reading and instead go and pick up proper history books.

For the umpteenth time, kindly provide us the proof of these fictional characters and false narratives of yours or accept the facts as stated above and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint.
You are not serious.
Almost all scholars and historians agree that the book of the Gospels are true history sources.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Steep(m): 9:34pm On Jun 08, 2023
Amujale:


Where?

You cannot use your foreign extremist ideology to prove your foreign extremist ideology, wake yourself up when you can't find one archogical evidence of any of your fictional characters.

I suppose this is something you ought to restudy and come back here to make amends to this reaching you have going on.

truth is extreme, because the existence of truth does not allow contrary views.
What is extreme about Jesus?
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 8:55am On Jun 09, 2023
Steep:
truth is extreme, because the existence of truth does not allow contrary views.
What is extreme about Jesus?

Jesus is a fictional character, it doesn't matter if you think your fictitious characters portrayed extremity or not, the point is that the characters aren't real and you ought to make amends to your viewpoint and cease peddling fakery and falsehood.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 9:01am On Jun 09, 2023
Steep:

What is the proof that Josephus invented Jesus story line?

Josephus is a pen name, his real name was said to be Ariso Piso.

No, Josephus is out of the question.

Josephus isn't a reliable source.

You've failed to provide any proof of your fictional characters, except for some inaccuracies thats without any merit, try again or accept the facts as presented earlier and make the necessary amends to your viewpoint.
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 9:04am On Jun 09, 2023
Steep:

haha, you are one funny clown I have ever met, so all the modern scholars that endorses tacitus as a true historian and writer all all crazy...


History doesn't recollect your fictional characters, furthermore, as stated earlier, the Annals are a forgery, therefore you are back to square one with no reliable source to backup the nonsensical gibberish that you have been spouting.


To add to the fact that both your sources are unreliable ones, are you telling us that out of the hundreds of historians that ought to be in Greece and Roman from the 1st to the 4th century CE, there are only two historians that you can come up with?
Re: Utah District Bans The Bible From Elementary & Middle Schools, See Why by Amujale(m): 9:19am On Jun 09, 2023
Steep:

Scholars and historians generally agree that Jesus is historic person..

Sources!?

There's no serious minded historian that will come up with the nonsensical gibberish that you're projecting here.

According to history, Jesus is a fictional character.

Given that neither you or any of your tutors can provide us with proof for your fictional characters or your false narratives, there are no second hand witness accounts, there's no evidence out there that can pass as being genuine and authentic, then, it stands to reason that your fictional characters never existed to begin with, and that you and your tutors are peddling a false representation of history.

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