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Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by GUNITGuy: 1:48pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Very good development no more noise makers 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Bluntemperor: 1:48pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
RockHard: Loud, our Legislative Assembly! Una just de wake up now to realities! Never too late for the Lagosians, anyway! God bless Lagos State. God bless Nigeria. 13 Likes |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by pacespot(m): 1:49pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
This is part of politics they are playing to hold on to the economy of Lagos. How does this translate to the improvement of lives of those indigenes? Is Tinubu family also included among the Lagos indigenes? |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Shikena(m): 1:49pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Jagungidi:I dey busy now so no comment 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Shattuck(m): 1:49pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Obaofaba:when you say non indegenes does that also includes other from neighbouring south west states, I just wonder how the law will be passed and what it would contain because there is a line that needs to be maintained not to infringe on others right or be discriminatory. |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Angelfrost(m): 1:49pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Creamypie: The key phrase above is "They bought"! That means you willy-nilly chose to sell your ancestral lands to them and exchange ownership! You didn't conditionally or unconditionally LEASE out the land! You literally forfeited ownership!... So, why the tears??! If you had outrightly held on to your properties and refused offers, regardless of how tempting, there would be no basis for such bellyaching (That's exactly what you're doing above)! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by JohnnA1: 1:50pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
RockHard:GBAM! ALL South West states should emulate this in earnest. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Ttipsy(f): 1:50pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
shezy14:you mean ibo pple don't have anything?? Oga shut up. You just de type nonsense 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by FreeStuffsNG: 1:51pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
This is welcome and must be given priority based on the need for us to collaborate by reciprocity. LAGOS GUBER & PLIGHT OF IGBOS: Law Of Reciprocity Is The Solution Background For weeks leading to the elections till now, I notice a profound tension and apprehension from the majority section of Igbo who do not respect and appreciate the warm reception they enjoy in Lagos. Please note that a minority of Igbo in Lagos are not part of the unappreciative tendencies fuelling the hostility the Yoruba now have against the Igbo in Lagos. Since 1999, Lagos state government from under Asiwaju Bola Tinubu (1999-2007) till date has been giving free education , free health and employment to our Igbo visitors in Lagos like the Yoruba natives since we are all Nigerians. This is no longer sustainable without reciprocity before it is too late as real danger looms. The issue will be fixed now. If Asiwaju Tinubu is blamed for creating the root cause of this socio-political problem then he should be part of those to fix it. Fix it as soon as possible before a 'native warrior' character in the mould of then young Gani Adams, who was barely able to communicate in English, rise up among the Yoruba youths and do it violently like we experienced in the 90s that forced Igbo to flee Lagos in fear and the Idi Araba Hausa/OPC wars . That will be bloody option hanging like sword of Damocles over our heads. Hence, I want us to use reciprocity to solve the problem. I recall that some Lagos indigenes and notable Yoruba leaders including late Dr Fredrick Fasheun, founder of Odua Peoples Congress, OPC, protested then that the Yoruba who mostly suffered from the pre-1999 broken down Lagos ruined by bomb blasts, filth etc under poor management of successive military governments were not being prioritized in terms of rewards, economic opportunities and welfare needs but these leaders eventually yielded to Asiwaju's pleas that the benefits will go round and the Yoruba natives should exercise patience. . Today some of those who opposed the all- comers approach of Asiwaju Tinubu leading a subnational government believe that he was the one who shrank the chances for the natives. They blame Asiwaju for giving 'too much' of Lagos oppprtunities to the Igbo and giving less part of the opportunities to them who suffered most. They are angry today that Asiwaju Tinubu sacrificed their yearnings and future for his future presidential ambition. Some of those disappointed Yoruba are tendencies behind clamour for Yoruba nation. They no longer trust Tinubu and Nigeria. Curiously, most of the Igbo who directly benefited from the free provisions made by Asiwaju Tinubu-led government and still benefitting from these policies sustained by subsequent Lagos governments turned out to be unappreciative and hate Asiwaju most. They hate Asiwaju Tinubu. They hate his wife. They hate his children and they hate everything about him. The kind of hate is unprecedented to the point the tension today is the fall out of it. All the good gestures and liberal policies initiated by Asiwaju Tinubu have been retained by successful governors but are still not appreciated by majority of Igbo in Lagos who have daily influx into Lagos because they have heard of opportunities in Lagos. The competition is now getting more intense and the Lagos state government appear to be pretending that the problem is not real. Every four years, these Igbo residents in Lagos deliberately gather to promote the politics of lies, hate and bigotry against the dorminant political interest of their Yoruba host. The 2023 the candidate they are backing lost again calls for a foresight on how to stop these deep hate for the Yoruba politics the Igbo in Lagos play. What solution do I propose? Law Of Reciprocity Law Of Reciprocity Is The Solution. Let me explain. Reading comments here and on social media, my conclusion is that anyone who attacks, insults , curses the Yoruba and notable Yoruba leaders is the one these majority of Igbo love. From Rufai Oseni, former radio broadcaster and now Tv host on Arise Tv, is a Television station with a huge Igbo viewership , now to Chinedu Rhodes-Vivor, LP Gubernatorial candidate, who for years openly supported the proscribed IPOB group (linked to the coordinated arson in Lagos in 2020) and reportedly use derogatory words to insult and mock Yoruba and notable Yoruba leaders including Pastor Enoch.A. Adeboye, General Overseer, RCCG worldwide Other Igbo folks online and offline are openly boasting that their main reason for suppporting LP is because Mr Chinedu Rhodes-Vivor, is one of them , raised to speak Igbo fluently like them and has an Igbo political godfather, Mr Peter Obi, former Anambra state Governor. The Yoruba are livid and feel completely disrespected. A notable Yoruba leader, Ayo Fayose, former Governer of Ekiti state; described it as insensitive to the Yoruba for a party to present a candidate who can not speak Yoruba to govern a Yoruba state. What he did not say openly is that the choice of a Chinedu Rhodes-Vivor who can not speak Yoruba is deliberate political mischief. Chinedu Rhodes-Vivor was selected by Igbo who do not speak or understand Yoruba as reward to him for being anti Yoruba and proscribed IPOB of Igbo extraction many believed worked for Mr Obi in the election votes from Igboland were allegedly rigged massively. Igbo Insensitivity and Arrogance In Lagos. The insensitive Igbo who derisively regard Lagos as a no man's land can not arrogantly claim to be the host of the Yoruba in their own land and enjoy the benefit of an entitled visitor in Lagos without the Yoruba having a single reciprocity from.the states of origin of these Igbo who mock and insult daily. It is a recipe for serious resentment of Igbo and anarchy by the Yoruba Lagos. It is fair to adopt reciprocity as a Lagos state and Southwest policy so that all these bigotry and hatred these Igbo show for the Yoruba will reduce if not stop. I have listened to a few vexed Yoruba and I heard why some stayed away from voting for Asiwaju is because they are angry with him, they believed he traded off the reciprocity in order to advance his personal political interest so they are demanding that if LASG give certain privileges to Igbo in Lagos there should be commensurate privilege given to Yoruba in Igboland too. Until this is done, the Yoruba will not stop feeling cheated and the bigotry and hatred caused by lack of gratitude on the part of some Igbo will not stop. The Yoruba can be a Commissioner in Igboland too. A Femi should be able to move around to campaign to be Abia state governor like Mr Chinedu in Lagos too and you do not need to kill a fellow Igbo for celebrating the victory of a non-Igbo in Igboland. Nobody does that to Igbo in Yorubaland. So reciprocity is a fair and just demand. For 8 years, Mr El Rufai, Governor of Kaduna state kept Yoruba in his cabinet and extended free govt services to non Hausa. Such a state and its indigenes resident in Lagos are qualified for reciprocity in Lagos while states that are hostile to Yoruba and in fact, states without appointment for Yoruba should not recieve political appointments in Lagos . States with indigenes in Lagos that do not hire and provide free heathcare and free education to Yoruba in their states too should not qualify for benefits of reciprocity. This should extend into streets naming, award of contracts, allocation of shops and hackney permits. These are finite oppprtunities and you must first give it the natives and whatever is left should meet the condition that the Igbo state give same opportunity to Yoruba in Igboland before we give it to Igbo in Yorubaland. Only in Igbo states do we not have other tribes in their states exco,ministries etc. It is not a balanced relationship and I see reason in the complaint of the Yoruba who feel cheated. Since democracy returned in 1999, Lagos has given a lot yet not even a single state in Igboland has ever appointed a Yoruba into their exco. It has to stop and reciprocity will stop it. Even property acquisition, especially a finite resource like land, should henceforth be scrutinized and rationed to demand reciprocity from the states of origin of the Igbo resident applicant and justice served. Benefits The benefits are too numerous and sustainable. Jobs will be more abundant to the Yoruba natives at home and away from home. This reciprocity policy will help provide jobs and social benefits to all Yoruba in other states especially if this policy of reciprocity is adopted by all the southwest states. It will equally help draw mostly talents and less of lazy or criminal elements to the Southwest from the South East which in turn will help improve the economy of Yoruba states and Yoruba living outside SW, especially in Igboland. The Yoruba need the jobs here at home too and those resident in Igboland should benefit from jobs in Igboland so that the same privileges the Igbo benefit here in Yorubaland their govts are giving with reciprocity to the Yoruba. Our economy in SW will grow in leaps and bounds with the policy reciprocity. The State Executive councils and state Houses of Assembly in the South West should fornulate an effecrive strategy and laws to domesticate the policy of reciprocity in their states like they did with the Amotekun law. A more radical variant of this pragmatic policy was adopted and implemented by the Alhaji Sir Ahmadu Ibrahim Bello, Sardauna of Sokoto-led Northern Nigeria government in the 1st republic . It was very effective to quickly help Northern Nigeria ramp up human capacity and infrastructural development before the Premier's life was terminated violently on January 15, 1966. Conclusion Yoruba should not cheat Igbo and Igbo should not cheat Yoruba. Enough of this politics of lies, hate and bigotry every 4 years. Reciprocity is the way out. https://www.nairaland.com/7612989/lagos-guber-plight-igbo-law 16 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Nobody: 1:51pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Ttipsy: That’s because they killed off the indigenes of California and Florida. So it would be them shooting themselves in the foot if they make laws favouring indigenes because the lawmakers are the invaders. That’s what Lagos state is trying to protect itself from, being overtaken by invaders and refugees! Gerrrit? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by randymirrors(f): 1:52pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Jagungidi: That guy is not Yoruba talk more of being an indigene of Osun State. If he's Yoruba, then he's a BASTARD cos I'm 100% sure no Yoruba will say what he said. Maybe he has Igbo blood. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by RockHard: 1:53pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
LOVEALAIGBO: Poppycock. Look here. Even without legislation, non-ibos are made to understand their boundaries in iboland, that's why your region is deemed the most unaccommodating in the entire federation. #Fact. You can't be enjoying privileges you deny others in your enclave. That nonsense must stop in Lagos. What legislation are your Ipob warriors using to cage non-ibos that live in iboland through forceful Sit-At-Home on Mondays? Go and Siddon for potopoto. 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by kokomilala(m): 1:53pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
About Time- Arresting A Lost Value Because Of Accommodation It's high time they did it. Lagos accommodation has become a snare. Easterners preposterously claim Lagos is ' no man's land', whereas, they do not sell land to Yoruba in the east. They don't appoint Yoruba into the cabinets there. There comes a time in life when one has to reappraise one's relationships with others- for good or bad. And, this is the apt moment to do that. The interests of the indigenes must be protected, not just for the now, but for posterity sake. The brazenness of the Igbos against the Yoruba in Lagos during the last general elections, throwing it at them that Lagos is ' no man's land' is a rude awakening. If they had the opportunities, they would take over Lagos. If the legislation is passed and some people are not pleased with it, they can quietly leave Lagos. For those scoundrels chorusing Lagos is 'no man's land', and that they developed Lagos, well.., they need some education in history. The Portuguese first came to Lagos in 1472 and met the Aworis. They went back with 14 slaves. Where were the Igbos then? They were in the forests of the east foraging for food. In 1861, the British made Lagos its colony. Where were the Igbos then? May be they were hunting some game then. What the Igbos brought to Lagos is just vacuous commercialism- the act of buying and selling alone. Not that they brought any technology transfer or something. It's sad when an accommodation becomes a problem. I think it was Chinua Achebe that said "...when a handshake extends beyond the wrist, it is no longer a handshake..." We've got to the level where our relationship has to be reassessed in absolute terms. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Ttipsy(f): 1:55pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Jagungidi:so for example California or new York should make a law stoping USA citizen from another State, or foreign national from residing and impacting on the economy of the State?? You are so dumb I repeat again; it's high time we tell ourselves the truth in this con3 ... Because nations are not built on hate, sentiments, and tribalism 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by kvin33: 1:55pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Protect indigenes but we ALL know...na IGBO HATE bill. Many of them talking BS will soon find out they "look Igbo", some will "sound Igbo" some will be "suspected Igbo" and the hammer will take you as well. Evil comes in by first targeting the outcasts/hated, soon it spreads to all. You think you are wise? When the wahala you started starts biting remember, it was your idea. A whole state assembly, out of everything is focused on Igbo hate bill. Some people are cursed. Lagos used to be the shining light, now watch as they destroy it. You want to know why Nigeria is a mess, watch how they'll destroy Lagos in the name of Igbo Hate addiction. Tufiakwa! 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by randymirrors(f): 1:55pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
SmartPolician: Oga keep quiet. I'm an indigene of Lagos. If you were as smart as you claim, you'd have decoded that from my comment. I know it hurts to hear, but Yorubas are ONE everyday, everytime. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Angelfrost(m): 1:56pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Jagungidi: Invaders and Refugees??! Who might you be referring to sir??! Fulanis or who??! Lol! Person leave him region, enter your area begin run business, becomes wealthy, offers you money beyond your earning capabilities, you greedily sell your birthright or land, then come back years later to bellyache that he is disrespecting you! This is silly and amusing!!! Maybe, you guys should work on your land acquisition laws, or outrightly stop selling lands and houses to non-indigenes! |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by ghettochild4u(m): 1:57pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
So who are the indigenes of lagos state n how can u differentiate em?? |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by shezy14(m): 1:57pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Ttipsy:Tell us what you have? 4 Likes |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Mickykarim: 1:58pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
budaatum: HOW DOES YOUR THOUGHTLESS REPONSE FITS INTO THE DISCUSS? You did not address the question in purview. Rather exhibited the Nigerian decoy mentality of responding to a question with a question. YOU NEED TO GROW UP. The question still remains where the Nigerian constitution indicated no-man's-land? 2 Likes |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Librason: 1:58pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
slawomir: Story, you are not geographically and anthropologically sound! how can a state enveloped by southwestern states without any other contact with any geopolitical zones other than the Atlantic ocean not belong to the yorubas, for the fact that your elders from bini migrated early to a small part of Lagos does not rule out the place (so many other parts of it ) being occupied by indigenous ones (Yoruba) . Because your elders , your fore fathers had to cover a distance before they travelled from Benin to come meet the indigenes there . 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Holluwhakemmy(f): 1:59pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
slawomir:go to court and reclaim it to binis 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Angelfrost(m): 1:59pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
randymirrors: Again... Igbo Vs Yoruba! Fulani herdsmen have slaughtered and destroyed more Yoruba lives in the last decade, but you never call them out... Ever!!! But, a mere verbal attack from anywhere, you look for the nearest Igbo slur! Something is fundamentally and psychologically wrong with you Nigerians! 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Ttipsy(f): 1:59pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Angelfrost:I thought he was referring to bandits, Fulani herdsers as invaders Such a stupid response coming from a supposedly educated Nigerian 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by chuose: 2:00pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Lets break nigeria then 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by chessguru(m): 2:01pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
budaatum:is the law inconsistent with this Constitutional provision ?? if not then the law will stand to protect the indigenous people of Lagos 4 Likes |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Hueyreckless0007: 2:01pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
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Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by BreconHills(m): 2:01pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Ttipsy: California and Florida have laws unique to their identity as liberal and conservative states. If you don't like those laws you don't have to live there. If your children are in a state school where learning yoruba and yoruba culture are mandatory, you can choose to keep your child there or withdraw him/her. If you are the first to build a house on a road and you have no naming rights you must accept it. Under the constitution all land vests in the state. However even those lands can and do revert to the original family. Certainly in Lagos. Check out Suit No. LD/443/2002: Oba Fatai Aromire (Ojora of Lagos) and two others versus Chief Ogunyemi, Fredrick Orokoto and Mrs Oladunni Stella Olasehan. Anyone owning land in Lagos does not own it in perpetuity. Anyone who wants to build generational wealth using lagos land as their core asset needs to go yo their village. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Ttipsy(f): 2:01pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
shezy14:if I should answer you that means we are both ignorant |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Jeffy1206(m): 2:02pm On Jun 07, 2023 |
Any law that runs contrary to the provisions of the Constitution, which is the ground norm, is null and void, ultra vires to such inconsistency... The law is ab initio, a dead on arrival... |
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