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Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by ImperialYoruba: 7:38am On Jun 08, 2023 |
allcomage: Ibos are the only ethnics in Lagos who refuse to be partner for a BETTER SOCIETY as defined by Yoruba ethos of living. Other ethnics conform. Therefore my writings are targeted to Ibo, the non-conformist tribe. 3 Likes |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by kazyhm(m): 7:50am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Nordy: Who are the Lagos people that will remain? Talking about agbero.....when last did you visited the South East and South South ? Lagos Agberos only disturbs commercial vehicles....at their parks and bus stops In Onisha, Owerri, Port Harcourt, Abia, Delta, Enugu, Balyesa etc agberos have road blocks just like the Police....you can't drive your pickup van and private cars through 1km without being molested.......you'll collect permits everyday in every local government............ everybody in the East are tax collectors and Landlord. 3 Likes |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by aswani(m): 8:07am On Jun 08, 2023 |
All of the Igbo this Yoruba that in Lagos state is a misunderstanding of sorts. In ala Igbo, the concept of states in very important and held on to tightly for identity purposes. That is why for example an Enugu State man whose ancestry up to his great grandfather have lived in Owerri for donkey years will cause consternation when he puts himself forward for political office. I am sure we have all seen the video that did the rounds around election time pertaining to this. Slightly different in the Western Region aka Yorubaland where Yoruba people whose ancestry can be traced to other states can and do put themselves forward for elective offices and the "indigines" don't complain as they see each other as one unlike in ala igbo. So anyone trying to make out the status of non Yorùbá's and Yorùbá's from other states in Lagos as the same is wasting their time really. 5 Likes |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by XAUBulls: 8:15am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Christistruth03:Indeed! Those Yoruba clans or subgroups are represented in what is now Lagos State from centuries back. Aromire migrated from the Aramoko-Ekiti axis but settled in the midst of earlier Awori migrants in Eko. "Eko Aromire ilu ogbon." Ebute Meta was settled by immigrants from Abeokuta and this is why the place has an Egba vibe to it with infrastructure put up by the Egba Christians who were expelled in the late 1800s by the Egba Chiefs led by Sodeke on the suspicion of collaborating with the British to undermine Egba military ascendancy. As for Gbadebo Rhodes-Vivour, he was simply clueless about his ancestral origins. There is a strong belief that his father's paternal lineage (Vivour) is not of Yoruba origin though his father's maternal (Rhodes) is of Yoruba origin. Both lines Rhodes and Vivour are of formerly enslaved Saro returnee origins. There is a book excerpt that was shared with me here on NL which alluded to the fact that the Vivour patriarch who was born in Sierra Leone in the 1800s and settled in Fernando Po as a merchant "probably" had an enslaved Ibo father who was set free from a slave ship in Sierra Leone. Only that family can clarify this because Rhodes and Vivour are two different family trees, though related by marriage. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Ttipsy(f): 8:21am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Librason:you just jumped in middle of the conversation. . Well I think it's foolish bringing California and Florida in this argument.. There's clearly a difference between dumb and literates |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by XAUBulls: 8:37am On Jun 08, 2023 |
JohnnA1:@JohnnA1, Thank you for the feedback. Tbh, NL contains a lot of info on Lagos indigenes and the larger Yoruba history that have been treated from back in the day. With the NL search function and the right keywords, you can easily dig up past threads that have intensely dealt with this same subject matter since 2005. I agree that more concise info is needed and the mass media back in Nigeria will have to be used to educate the larger public about the history of Lagos and more. For instance, it is only Lagos Island that was the capital of Nigeria from 1914 to 1991, but a lot of ignorant folks from another ethnic group FALSELY think it is the whole of Lagos State that was used as the capital of the British. Lagos State only came into existence on May 27, 1967, so, Lagos (Island) and Lagos State are two different geographical and political areas. All the best. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by porthouse7(f): 8:56am On Jun 08, 2023 |
OloYeOfEgbE:who invite them in the first instance 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by XAUBulls: 8:57am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Creeper:Thanks for the great feedback and adding more meat to the topic @Creeper. Ah! Indeed, I have a fantastic YouTube documentary video made by Mr. Tunde Kelani about the history of Porto Novo (Ajase Ile) which is a Yoruba city in Benin Republic. The Oba of Ajase Ile told Tunde Kelani that his ancestors migrated from Iseyin to establish Ajase otherwise called Porto Novo centuries back. What also interested me was his reference to how the Yorubas of Ajase allowed the Ogus to settle in their midst. The Ogus were said to be related to the indigenous Yoruba of Ajase so they welcomed them. I made reference to the above because you alluded to the Oyo and Ogu relationship in the Badagry axis. The Aworis and Ogus are indigenes of Badagry LGA which is distinct from Badagry town though. I'll check up the Viola Davis and John Boyega movie recommendation below too. "THE WOMAN KING – Official Trailer (HD)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RDaPV_rJ1Y Thanks again for the deep insights. P.S. @Creeper... Here's the documentary video of Tunde Kelani's visit to the Yoruba city of Ajase Ile [Porto Novo] in Benin Republic. The Oba of Ajase was interviewed and he indicated that their ancestors migrated originally from Iseyin in Oyo State to establish Ajase Ile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzhbLwYQBgk 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by cktheluckyman: 8:57am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Segzy19: You want to give heart attack to poor states like Oyo,Osun and Ekiti |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by porthouse7(f): 9:00am On Jun 08, 2023 |
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Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by cktheluckyman: 9:01am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Librason: I am actually suprised you cowardly hypocrites know so much about the exclusive and concurrent list.So which list is citizenship or indigeneship? |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by cktheluckyman: 9:07am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Creeper: But Peter Obi an Igbo man won virtually the entire states across southern Nigeria |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by loooozeem: 10:18am On Jun 08, 2023 |
I wonder y these people are saying no man's land Are they crazy ni. We must deal with this shit once and for all I DEY VEX 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Touchypro(m): 10:20am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Tommydare: I would also want to know how Igbos are destroying Lagos cos I've lived in Lagos before and I don't see what Igbos are doing to warrant anyone's hatred. APC as a party in Lagos just doesn't want any opposition and they see that majority of Igbos are not voting for them so they started creating some fake propaganda about Igbos taking over Lagos just to gather sentiment seeing that more Yoruba people especially the youths are also getting fed up with them. It is the only way they would stay in power. Because in Lagos there are Yoruba traditional practices that everyone adheres to including the Oro festivals. I've never seen an Igbo man that decided to be in his shop when Oro is going on. We obey. There are still Yoruba traditional rulers in Lagos and I've never seen an Igbo man dragging the position of an Oba in Lagos. In 2015 election the Igbos humbly answered obas call for meeting only for the Oba to tell them to their faces that they'll be thrown into the lagoon if they didn't vote Ambode. I watched how they still clapped for the Oba despite all the insults he heaped on them, no one opposed him and Oba was never questioned by anyone. That's being humble and respectful even in face of humiliation. Yoruba people are still the only ones doing Omonile in Lagos and Igbos are not opposing, they all settle when they buy land. It is still a Yoruba woman that is an Iya oloja in Lagos, every Igbo market woman follow her directive and pay tribute when needed. I stayed at Idumota and there are people who come to collect money from us, they are Yoruba people and Igbos have never opposed it. We all pay. Igbos that are appointed in Lagos government does not occupy a top position where they can make or influence decisions. I just don't know how Igbos turned out to be problem of Yoruba people in Lagos because of election. If every other tribe leave Lagos it won't be Lagos again, ask yourself aside Lagos which other State in South West can be like Lagos. Why do you think it is like that? Visitors. In my community sef preferential treatment are given to the visitors cos we believe it is visitors that makes a place develop. Check every metropolitan City they all have one thing in common which is high number of non indigenes. 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by aswani(m): 10:56am On Jun 08, 2023 |
XAUBulls: Keep up the good work XAUBulls but I believe a Western Region and Lagos border was at the Jibowu end of Ikorodu Road. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by YesDaddy1: 11:06am On Jun 08, 2023 |
Remember u own Lagos, so u don't need to worry about any law. cktheluckyman: 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Tommydare(m): 11:53am On Jun 08, 2023 |
[Yeah, politicians created the stunt but many igbos joined them in saying lagos is a no man's land. Yoruba people will say eni ti a ko Nika to hu iwa ika, oun naa fe tinu e se ni ."person wey dem teach bad things and he do am wanted to do it in the first place." So those people shouting no man's land wanted to do it before but are waiting for someone to trigger them. Nobody hate igbos as long as everybody act and behave accordingly. I can't go to onitsha or Aba and be shouting no man's land. It's total disrespect to the people there. author=Touchypro post=123649795] I would also want to know how Igbos are destroying Lagos cos I've lived in Lagos before and I don't see what Igbos are doing to warrant anyone's hatred. APC as a party in Lagos just doesn't want any opposition and they see that majority of Igbos are not voting for them so they started creating some fake propaganda about Igbos taking over Lagos just to gather sentiment seeing that more Yoruba people especially the youths are also getting fed up with them. It is the only way they would stay in power. Because in Lagos there are Yoruba traditional practices that everyone adheres to including the Oro festivals. I've never seen an Igbo man that decided to be in his shop when Oro is going on. We obey. There are still Yoruba traditional rulers in Lagos and I've never seen an Igbo man dragging the position of an Oba in Lagos. In 2015 election the Igbos humbly answered obas call for meeting only for the Oba to tell them to their faces that they'll be thrown into the lagoon if they didn't vote Ambode. I watched how they still clapped for the Oba despite all the insults he heaped on them, no one opposed him and Oba was never questioned by anyone. That's being humble and respectful even in face of humiliation. Yoruba people are still the only ones doing Omonile in Lagos and Igbos are not opposing, they all settle when they buy land. It is still a Yoruba woman that is an Iya oloja in Lagos, every Igbo market woman follow her directive and pay tribute when needed. I stayed at Idumota and there are people who come to collect money from us, they are Yoruba people and Igbos have never opposed it. We all pay. Igbos that are appointed in Lagos government does not occupy a top position where they can make or influence decisions. I just don't know how Igbos turned out to be problem of Yoruba people in Lagos because of election. If every other tribe leave Lagos it won't be Lagos again, ask yourself aside Lagos which other State in South West can be like Lagos. Why do you think it is like that? Visitors. In my community sef preferential treatment are given to the visitors cos we believe it is visitors that makes a place develop. Check every metropolitan City they all have one thing in common which is high number of non indigenes. [/quote] 1 Like |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by XAUBulls: 12:17pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
aswani:@Aswani, thanks. Indeed. The Mosalasi axis of Mushin and Surulere axis right up to the Jibowu end of Ikorodu [like you stated] marked the boundary between the Old Western Region and the old Lagos pre-May 27, 1967. Ikeja, Mushin, Ilupeju, Isolo, Agege, the entire Lekki Peninsula, Ikorodu, Epe, Ojo, Badagry, etc, were all in the Old Western Region and were governed by dynamic Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN, and his lieutenants right up till they were carved out and merged to form the new Lagos State on May 27, 1967. 3 days later, on May 30, 1967, the bearded Eastern Region rebel leader seceeded from Nigeria simply because General Gowon created 12 new states thereby fulfilling the wishes of the minority ethnicities of Calabar, Ogoja, Rivers [COR] Movement who had been calling for self-government and separation from perceived Ibo domination in the governance of the Old Eastern Region even before the British left Nigeria in 1960. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Touchypro(m): 12:17pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
Tommydare: I've moved from Lagos and I really don't need any property there. But if it becomes a problem to the people over there they'll stop buying properties there and don't think that would Favour the State in any way. No matter what you guys think and feel government knows what they're doing. They will not enact any law that will drive non indigenes away cos they know very well that it doesn't make economic sense. You don't want Lagos State government to continue providing the State with modern infrastructures? Abi you think they print the money from air. Some of those non indigenes own big corporations there and some of them are heads of multi national companies there. |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Akungitit: 12:28pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
OloYeOfEgbE: |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by OloYeOfEgbE: 12:29pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
porthouse7: Shatap if you no get yans |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Akungitit: 12:29pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
Delta state is not not IPOBLAND, it's Niger Delta. Niger Delta people have no issues with the Yorubas. |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Librason: 12:57pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
cktheluckyman: What's nonsense this one is saying " cowardly hypocrites" you are putting me in position of lawmakers, we are discussing issues , we are telling you state have power to make laws and you are stupidly and erroneously putting matter outside their control in the matter, what's the issues in indegenes benefitting from their states , what's your headache in that! is it new? what is obtainable everywhere , even though no much noise about it. because this is Lagos, where you idiots call no man's land then it will be an issue now. |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by anungangampu: 1:05pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
aswani:Hard truth everyone knows. But don't want as the move is good for tribal bashing |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Librason: 1:08pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
Ttipsy: He made his point in California and Florida at least for a reason, and dumb is the best term to describe him, where you can make things better, no, it's bad, there is maturity in giving superior argument without an abuse(especially if he has not abused you.) |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by anungangampu: 1:15pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
ImperialYoruba:Thinking from your Anus, let me ask you what will be the benefit for Indigeens? Or this is straight from your tribalist ass. |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Touchypro(m): 1:18pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
Tommydare: I just pointed out to you things that are done in Lagos that are core Yoruba practices and I asked you if there has been a time that Igbo people objected to them because they see Lagos as no man's land? If truly Igbos believes that Lagos is a no man's land when there's Oro day at least you will see them coming out to oppose it. You would have seen Igbo people that are doing Omonile in Lagos if they truly believe it is a no man's land but they don't because they no say na people get am. If Igbos truly believe Lagos is no man's land you would see them opposing the Oba seat but they simply don't do that. Every time the Oba has summoned Igbo stakeholders in Lagos they all go. Even eko oni baje is a Yoruba word is there any word that Igbos use for it except eko oni baje. No Man's Land was first used by Lateef Jakande and he didn't mean Lagos belongs to nobody he means anybody can succeed in Lagos and that's where No Man's Land came from and nobody has ever said Lagos is not Yoruba land. The Igbo apex group Ohanézè and other prominent Igbo groups have never contested the ownership of Lagos. So tell me learned fellow what are the Igbos doing that suggests to you that they're being disrespectful. You need to start seeing Lagos as big metropolitan city, it has the highest concentration of people from different places in Nigeria. There's no other State in South or North as Lagos. If you've ever been to Onitsha you'll know that Onitsha people are very few you'll hardly come across them but you will see people from other states and Onitsha have no general igbo practice meaning that everyone does whatever they want without anyone interference. If you say Onitsha is a no man's land nobody will notice. Even though Lagos is a bigger city than Onitsha. |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by anungangampu: 1:45pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
randymirrors:What kind of law exactly? Seem tribalim has eaten in inside you... Fashola did worse, you guys like believing in crap. |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Ttipsy(f): 2:11pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
Librason:you are supporting your Yoruba brother; didn't you saw how he used abusive words on me also?? |
Re: No-Man’s Land: Lagos To Make Laws To Protect Indigenes by Zandena(f): 2:17pm On Jun 08, 2023 |
This has been long overdue. Let's Federal government also amend the Electoral law prohibiting non-indigines from voting in Governorship, state and National Assembly and LG elections of their host states. They can only vote in presidential ballots. Do it and the notorious land grabbers will be put in their rightful place! |
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