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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 9:49am On Jun 11, 2023
Capaldi:

Ferguson never went up against a world class coach in the league. Mourinho came in and won the league back to back. I believe Ferguson In this current era will struggle to win more more than two league the title.
The only reason Ferguson might struggle to win More league titles easily is because of pep. I still feel he would win some but it'll be mightily shared between him and pep(a good 2-horse race)

Remember, Ferguson won 3-peat immediately Mou won the league back to back

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 9:49am On Jun 11, 2023
Leyqute:


In 1999, United bested the defending champions Arsenal in a title race that ended on the last league day. The Arsenal City defeated hasn't won a league title in donkey years.

The 1999 United team also defeated Bayern Munich in Germany at the last minute. City faced Inter Milan and Lukaku.

United had to beat Liverpool, Chelsea, and the same Arsenal with Henry to get to the FA Cup final. City faced Sheffield United in the FA cup semis as well as arsenal and Chelsea in the earlier stages.

They had it easier than the other United team. Most of their opponents were nowhere near them. Only the FA was tough for them- their game against Arsenal was tough and the final was tough too cos United had beaten them already this season.

Doesn't change the fact they won the treble. It just wasn't as tough as it was for the 1999ers.
Keep quiet with your shaleye. Man City had it easy because Man City made it look easy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 9:50am On Jun 11, 2023
Capaldi:

k
More like L for you. CapaLdi, for a reason grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:51am On Jun 11, 2023
BlueAngel444:
It's not about buying players, it's about how u use them

If John Stones, Ake, A kanji were in Chelsea many of u will hate them and want them gone. Gundogan would be too old, Grealish an unproductive shakushaku flop and Haaland an expensive white Lukaku that can't be involved in build up

The only players some of u will rate would be Foden, Mahrez, KDB, B. Silva. Even Rodri some will tell u they can never win a title with them or won with three at the back, they would prefer K. Philips starting instead.


Pep Guardiola is the greatest and most successful football manager alive


Did you remember when you in particular insulted me for saying the bolded way back? grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 9:55am On Jun 11, 2023
Jodera:
The only reason Ferguson might struggle to win More league titles easily is because of pep. I still feel he would win some but it'll be mightily shared between him and pep(a good 2-horse race)

Remember, Ferguson won 3-peat immediately Mou won the league back to back
For most of Ferguson spell in england there was no top coach to challenge him. Mourinho came in and won back to back, had a bad 3rd year finishing 2nd and left. Ferguson then wins two more titles with no real challenge from any top coach. When a world class coach comes to England he always tops Ferguson. Ancelotti came as well and won against Ferguson in is first season.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 9:56am On Jun 11, 2023
Jodera:

Exactly... Two or more Rights can coexist.
No dey hide Man u as If dem no join dash Man city treble grin

As for your question, my own dey come(life na turn by turn).
This season na Man city own grin

I no hide anything

City’s toughest games this season was the FA cup games against United and the bottlers FC. Those games were tight and could’ve gone either way.

As per your treble, keep hoping o. I won’t be surprised if you guys get to the UCL final, lead by 3 goals and then concede 4 in added time. It’s kinda in your DNA.

I’m sure deep down you’re still pissed for missing out on the league this season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 9:57am On Jun 11, 2023
hensben:
Messi winning ballon d’ or na big bragging right for me offline cos I get niggas wey i wan pepper.

cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:01am On Jun 11, 2023
raumdeuter:


KdB has been the top of the assist in his league for several seasons

Silva just led a team to 12th position
To compare properly
Tyrone Mings led his team to 7th
Mark Guehi led his team to 10th
Tosin Adarabioyo led his team to 9th

Those are Thiago Silva contemporaries in Central defence


Thiago Silva has won the league in Milan and at PSG when KDB couldn't find his feet in Europe. Till KDB wins his UCL on the pitch never mention him in the same breath as actual UCL winners like Mason Mount,Juan Mata.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:03am On Jun 11, 2023
Capaldi:

Ferguson never went up against a world class coach in the league. Mourinho came in and won the league back to back. I believe Ferguson In this current era will struggle to win more more than two league the title.

Fergie was in the league when Wenger came in and went a whole season unbeaten.

For Fergie, it’s all about improving and elevating himself to the level of new challengers. Pep won’t be that much a problem for him in the league. Didn’t Klopp snatch this same league from Pep?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 10:05am On Jun 11, 2023
Greatihex:
It is not luck. He learnt from his past mistakes.
I said 'his fair share of luck". There were times he made the right decision but ended up with a negative outcome. Take for example, the second leg vs Madrid in 2022, he took off a KdB that was ghosting, replaced his tiring wide attackers with fresh legs in Grealish and Sterling, and brought on Fernandinho to close out the game in the last quarter. He got his tactics spot on, IMO. But everything went south just 2 minutes to the end of the game. There was no reasonable explanation for what Real did. It just happened. So you see, you still need a bit of luck.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 10:09am On Jun 11, 2023
pkasso:
More like L for you. CapaLdi, for a reason grin
You are just looking for argument where there's none. If you actually watched that match and didn't see how Inter Milan set up nullified City and contained them comfortably while creating 4 big chances themselves then you are on your own looking for invincible L.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:11am On Jun 11, 2023
Capaldi:

For most of Ferguson spell in england there was no top coach to challenge him. Mourinho came in and won back to back, had a bad 3rd year finishing 2nd and left. Ferguson then wins two more titles with no real challenge from any top coach. When a world class coach comes to England he always tops Ferguson. Ancelotti came as well and won against Ferguson in is first season.

When Wenger came in and won the league, Ferguson won it back afterwards.

When Mourinho did the same thing, he won it back again.

Mancini of Man City won the league on goal difference. Fergie delayed his retirement to win it back and prove he’s still got it.

Had Pep rivaled him during those years, the result won’t be any different.

SAF is still a GOAT.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:12am On Jun 11, 2023
raumdeuter:


KdB has been the top of the assist in his league for several seasons


Mention one final that KDB beasted.

I’ll wait.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 10:13am On Jun 11, 2023
Leyqute:


Fergie was in the league when Wenger came in and went a whole season unbeaten.

For Fergie, it’s all about improving and elevating himself to the level of new challengers. Pep won’t be that much a problem for him in the league. Didn’t Klopp snatch this same league from Pep?
8 years and how many league titles have klopp won? That's exactly what would have happened to Ferguson if he had a world class coach going head to head with him. Most of Ferguson time in england he was the only top coach dominating the league and when another top coach comes in Ferguson usually doesn't stand a chance. Mourinho came in won back to back. Ancelotti came in and won in his first season breaking multiple records.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 10:19am On Jun 11, 2023
Leyqute:


When Wenger came in and won the league, Ferguson won it back afterwards.

When Mourinho did the same thing, he won it back again.

Mancini of Man City won the league on goal difference. Fergie delayed his retirement to win it back and prove he’s still got it.

Had Pep rivaled him during those years, the result won’t be any different.

SAF is still a GOAT.
Wenger is not world class. The only world class coaches that went head to head with Ferguson was Mourinho and Ancelotti meaning for most of his league career Ferguson was the only top coach In England. Mourinho and Ancelotti had no problem dealing with Ferguson united. The only thing going for Ferguson is his longevity in England. Great manager but nothing special.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 10:23am On Jun 11, 2023
nateevs:
Me I am just here to remind Dayo that two top Managers went head-to head in a UCL final playing 3ATB.

Facts only.

Formation of the future.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:23am On Jun 11, 2023
Capaldi:

For most of Ferguson spell in england there was no top coach to challenge him. Mourinho came in and won back to back, had a bad 3rd year finishing 2nd and left. Ferguson then wins two more titles with no real challenge from any top coach. When a world class coach comes to England he always tops Ferguson. Ancelotti came as well and won against Ferguson in is first season.
Lol...
Ferguson always improve with new challenges or competition. Moreover, he always have the backings of the board.

Ferguson would never go at least 3yrs without lifting that EPL trophy in England. Pep or no Pep.

Let us don't also forget that EPL was still branded the toughest league in the world even as far back as 2006.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:26am On Jun 11, 2023
Leyqute:


I no hide anything

City’s toughest games this season was the FA cup games against United and the bottlers FC. Those games were tight and could’ve gone either way.

As per your treble, keep hoping o. I won’t be surprised if you guys get to the UCL final, lead by 3 goals and then concede 4 in added time. It’s kinda in your DNA.

I’m sure deep down you’re still pissed for missing out on the league this season.
This is wash and everyone knows that.
Una game no even tough reach Inter own but you just have to smuggle Man u final inside to make you feel good.
Heck, Una final no even tough sef against Man city. How many clean cut chances or openings did you trouble Man city?
For you to castigate only de Gea and not any attackers for missing chances sums up that you just wanted a smash and grab win without playing anything grin



Also, like I said. Life na turn by turn.
When that time reach, every DNA go scatter grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 10:27am On Jun 11, 2023
Seems Like Man city will share their Medal with Barcelona Players and Fans........ Shameless FanBase!!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:30am On Jun 11, 2023
Capaldi:

Ferguson never went up against a world class coach in the league. Mourinho came in and won the league back to back. I believe Ferguson In this current era will struggle to win more more than two league the title.


You just like to believe in your own lies. Ferguson struggle in this current era say wetin happen? Pep guardiola will have to import his 2009 Barcelona team into the league to wrestle the league off Ferguson. Every other coach na write off for Ferguson.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 10:32am On Jun 11, 2023
How exactly is it rocket science that Barcelona fans will definitely have some kind of emotion for Man city due to having their previous coach who did a lot for Barca and play a similar style to prime Barca. How exactly is that concept hard?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 10:33am On Jun 11, 2023
popizaino:



You just like to believe in your own lies. Ferguson struggle in this current era say wetin happen? Pep guardiola will have to import his 2009 Barcelona team into the league to wrestle the league off Ferguson. Every other coach na write off for Ferguson.
Twenty years from now, when a new top coach go dey limelight, we might hear Pep will struggle to win the league in that era cos no much competition or challenge in this era grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:37am On Jun 11, 2023
Leyqute:
Greatihex

Since about a couple of seasons ago, Pep has learned not to go gung ho all the time, especially in the second half of the season.

His team just scores the first goal, take their foot a little bit off the pedal, and then control the game, looking for clear cut chances to score the second and third goals.

This season is his worst league points tally for the last 3 years at least. If he continues like this, he might win the quadruple. At least, that's the way to do it. The rest depends on the relative quality of his opponents.
I noticed it in 2021/2022 season. But this time around, he was very serious about winning. I mean, this attacking useless Grealish would normally be bench in a pep's team. He is sacrificing attack for defensive solidity. He has never done that before. He took it serious to win this time and he did. I mean, he now has a striker that is not very good with ball playing. Mancity defender can now play the ball to throw in instead of trying to pass out. Stones no longer need to show that he is good with the ball at his feet. Nigga just has to do defending.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 10:40am On Jun 11, 2023
Jodera:
Lol...
Ferguson always improve with new challenges or competition. Moreover, he always have the backings of the board.

Ferguson would never go at least 3yrs without lifting that EPL trophy in England. Pep or no Pep.

Let us don't also forget that EPL was still branded the toughest league in the world even as far back as 2006.
He just stays longer than his competition because United wont sack him when he fails to deliver . Mourinho came in and won the league back to back and in any other clubs Ferguson would have been fired for allowing that to happen. You are making my point for me that his longevity is the only thing going for him. His competition never stays for long and once again he becomes the only top coach in the league.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:40am On Jun 11, 2023
patrickmuf:
There's a reason I rate Fergie so highly, he built one title-winning team after another. It is easy to get to the top to staying there is another thing entirely because rival teams will raise their game to unseat you.

I rate Zidane because winning the UCL 3 times in a row is unheard of.

Next season, I expect the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd, and Newcastle to give City a stronger challenge.
Champions league is just a 13 matches competition that gives you a second leg option, even if you lose the first. Zidane should come and take another team to prove his prowess.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:40am On Jun 11, 2023
Capaldi:

Wenger is not world class. The only world class coaches that went head to head with Ferguson was Mourinho and Ancelotti meaning for most of his league career Ferguson was the only top coach In England. Mourinho and Ancelotti had no problem dealing with Ferguson united. The only thing going for Ferguson is his longevity in England. Great manager but nothing special.

Ancelotti won the league and SAF reclaimed top spot a season later. How did he 'deal' with SAF?

Mourinho gave him a tougher time by winning two in a row. He left in his 3rd season and he was not topping the table when he left.

SAF always reinvents himself and then topples the opposition. There's no way he won't do the same thing with Pep. He did it with Ancelotti and Mourinho.

That's the point I've been making but you seem oblivious to that.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:41am On Jun 11, 2023
popizaino:



Lukaku is never useless,i don't know how you watch your ball to arrive at such conclusion,but a striker who regularly get into scoring chances,creating opportunities for teammates is never useless. Infact i still want him here.
Don't be unfortunate. I don't need bad luck in my team.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:44am On Jun 11, 2023
Greatihex:
I noticed it in 2021/2022 season. But this time around, he was very serious about winning. I mean, this attacking useless Grealish would normally be bench in a pep's team. He is sacrificing attack for defensive solidity. He has never done that before. He took it serious to win this time and he did. I mean, he now has a striker that is not very good with ball playing. Mancity defender can now play the ball to throw in instead of trying to pass out. Stones no longer need to show that he is good with the ball at his feet. Nigga just has to do defending.

Defense wins you titles- a lesson Pepe had to learn the hard way. Na why e fit win quadruple next season. But ola Anobi will never allow that to happen.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:52am On Jun 11, 2023
Jodera:
This is wash and everyone knows that.
Una game no even tough reach Inter own but you just have to smuggle Man u final inside to make you feel good.
Heck, Una final no even tough sef against Man city. How many clean cut chances or openings did you trouble Man city?
For you to castigate only de Gea and not any attackers for missing chances sums up that you just wanted a smash and grab win without playing anything grin



Also, like I said. Life na turn by turn.
When that time reach, every DNA go scatter grin
that man u display in a final is the worst that I have seen from a top team that is not having old players. I mean, man utd were losing, yet they were strolling on the pitch. Man city players could just stand with the ball and no utd player was pressing to get the ball back. And man city didn't even play that well.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:54am On Jun 11, 2023
Godx:
How exactly is it rocket science that Barcelona fans will definitely have some kind of emotion for Man city due to having their previous coach who did a lot for Barca and play a similar style to prime Barca. How exactly is that concept hard?
man city no dey play tiki taka o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:56am On Jun 11, 2023
Capaldi:

For most of Ferguson spell in england there was no top coach to challenge him. Mourinho came in and won back to back, had a bad 3rd year finishing 2nd and left. Ferguson then wins two more titles with no real challenge from any top coach. When a world class coach comes to England he always tops Ferguson. Ancelotti came as well and won against Ferguson in is first season.


Gerald houlier,Kenny Daglish,Arsene Wenger weren't top coaches?

How many league titles did Ancelotti win in Italy?

Just so you know Ferguson already defeated Ancelotti when the latter was Juventus coach in 19999.

Abeg Ferguson is not your ordinary coach,i can taunt him to troll man united fans but deep down that man was a genius.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:56am On Jun 11, 2023
Emaprince:
No mind those mugus.

These barka dogs will support Argentina to win Nigeria. Imagine that?

They don't even belong anywhere. They are just attracted to anything that looks glossy.

All of them joined barca during the barca dominance Era. Today na man city them wan switch to.


Glory hunters association of Nigeria

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