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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 12:18pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


I only speak Facts

With this Pep CL win

All agendas must be busted

The only one safe is Zidane because he was my favourite player

All others must bow especially that Scottish gum chewing fraud

Zidane is safe ,but the moment he returns to coaching we will start the agenda ,he should keep enjoying his holiday and wait for the French national team job for the 2034 World Cup grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 12:19pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


I only speak Facts

With this Pep CL win

All agendas must be busted

The only one safe is Zidane because he was my favourite player

All others must bow especially that Scottish gum chewing fraud

How many ucl has ancelotti won ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:20pm On Jun 12, 2023
Bombblacks:

You are typing too much. So until Pep wins the world cup and Euros someone like Del Bosque is greater than him. World Cup >>>>>>>>> 10 champions league titles using your logic. EOD

Only failed coaches manage National teams

Pep won't be competing with Scaloni and Southgate
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:21pm On Jun 12, 2023
andrewbaba44:


How many ucl has ancelotti won ?

4 CL in 28yrs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 12:23pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Only failed coaches manage National teams

Pep won't be competing with Scaloni and Southgate
World cup >>>>>>>10 champions league title.

Del Bosque>>>>>>> Pep. Even Scaloni right now is even greater than Peps. EOD

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:23pm On Jun 12, 2023
Current Euro winner Mancini

Fired by Inter, Man city, Galatasaray and Zenit. Na those ones Pep go dey compete against?

Pep will rather go play golf than coach National team

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:24pm On Jun 12, 2023
Bombblacks:

World cup >>>>>>>10 champions league title.

Del Bosque>>>>>>> Pep. Even Scaloni right now is even greater than Peps. EOD

Only failed coaches or retirees coach NT

No self respecting coach will pick the call of any National team

Na Peseiro Rohr Eguavoen Southgate get those ones
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 12:26pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Only failed coaches or retirees coach NT

No self respecting coach will pick the call of any National team

Na Peseiro Rohr Eguavoen Southgate get those ones
No one is interested In your explanation. Come to think of it If Di Matteo winning the champions league made him better than Wenger then Scaloni winning the world cup makes him better than Pep as well. Comical logic always have a way of exposing themselves.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 12:27pm On Jun 12, 2023
Scaloni is a greater coach than Pep using Dayo logic.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 12:29pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


4 CL in 28yrs

And pep won 3 in how many years ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by akwesenana: 12:45pm On Jun 12, 2023
Lol. Amala don stick for pot. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 1:07pm On Jun 12, 2023
Transfer window has not even started but broke barka has already beaten us to another player. When I said not going to the champions league or ulokpa league will affect our pull in the market others were backing boehly saying loss of revenue from champions league next season is the reason why we can't spend good on actual quality players in needed positions as if aston villa or livarpool with their stingy owners are playing champions league next season. I won't be there no matter what to witness another disasterclass next season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:12pm On Jun 12, 2023
andrewbaba44:


And pep won 3 in how many years ?

14yrs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:14pm On Jun 12, 2023
All this talk about Zidane, as long as Zidane is wise like Pep who choose teams and clubs with title winning potential he would be fine.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:15pm On Jun 12, 2023
WhoDeyHause:
Transfer window has not even started but broke barka has already beaten us to another player. When I said not going to the champions league or ulokpa league will affect our pull in the market others were backing boehly saying loss of revenue from champions league next season is the reason why we can't spend good on actual quality players in needed positions as if aston villa or livarpool with their stingy owners are playing champions league next season. I won't be there no matter what to witness another disasterclass next season.
*It's just June

*It's not like signing a player guarantees anything

*It's not like the club doesn't have players

*It's not three new players that will make the whole club play when if manager no get sense
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 1:29pm On Jun 12, 2023
BlueAngel444:

*It's just June

*It's not like signing a player guarantees anything

*It's not like the club doesn't have players

*It's not three new players that will make the whole club play when if manager no get sense
*It's just June
Let's keep on waiting till Christmas while more serious clubs are making quick moves to strengthen their side by snatching the best foodstuffs in the market for the great battle next season. I hope you know we now have a top 7 with Brighton or Aston villa also trying to do their best to join us.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 1:36pm On Jun 12, 2023
Even apari that won treble was already making plans since to sign kovacic to replace gundogan. We that were beaten wotowoto last season are still slacking to sign a CDM. The romeo and juliet that we left ugarte and amrabat for to sign from southampton is still not as advanced as we thought and if we continue that's how a champions league winning club would toast him and we'll start doing night market operations like last season. Buying 100 suya for 2 thousand cause time is running out. Even the scouts seem to have gone back to their former lazy lifestyle just waiting for alert to flex.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 2:06pm On Jun 12, 2023
Don't let anyone deceive you. Ferguson is the second most decorated coach in European competition history behind Ancelotti.

Ferguson has won 8 European competitions including Intercontinental cup against a Brazilian club but someone here claimed na fluke. Bhuhahahahaha. Na yam to reach UCL 4 times? grin

Ferguson wey don win 16 league title. How many Guardiola don win? 11 but he is greater dan Ferguson wey don win 16, abi? grin

Make una dwy deceive unself.

Bayern puffed and huffed against Chelsea but na who win? grin wetin concern us with ur puff and huffing afterwards? grin

Win na win. Inter had better chances than Mancity but na who win? Mancity. No stori. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Incognito9: 2:25pm On Jun 12, 2023
BlueAngel444:

*It's just June

*It's not like signing a player guarantees anything

*It's not like the club doesn't have players

*It's not three new players that will make the whole club play when if manager no get sense

We have lost kante and kovacic will follow soon. Yet boehly is dulling and is not like we have something to attract players (champions league qualification). Maybe boehly is waiting for arsenal to submit bid on Declan or caicedo, so that he will repeat those rubbish he did last season (hijacking deals with ridiculous amounts).

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:01pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


All these na capping you watched Ferguson recorded we watched him live and he wasn't special at all

If he was he would have won more than 2 CL titles with a team he created and had complete control over for almost 2 decades

It is the usual British washing that is making Ferguson look better than he is. He got lucky in that 1999 cos he was outplayed throughout

One day a kid today will watch highlights and say Mancini winning the Agueroooo epl means he was great and you can never write off a team coached by Mancini based on recording he watched

Ottmar Hitzfeld the Bayern coach on that 1999 night was a better coach by far

It's the same way they tried to sell it as if all those Man utd players of that generation were greats

In 1997 Ottmar Hitzfeld coached Dortmund to beat Ferguson home and away in the CL semi where was this Ferguson magic to turn it around? Before Hitzfeld led Dortmund to beat star studded Juve in the final with Lars Ricken a 17yr old writing Waec putting the final nail in Juve coffin

In 2001 again Hitzfeld now coaching Bayern met Ferguson in the quarter final and beat Ferguson home and away where was the juju then to make Ferguson turn the results?

Where was the Ferguson miracle when Monaco was eliminating him from the CL in 1998, or in 2000 when under strength Madrid was beating him at Old Trafford or in 2002 when Toppmoller was using unfancied Leverkusen to eliminate Ferguson
Or in 2003 when Madrid and Ronaldo was scoring hat trick at Old Trafford
Or in 2004 when Benni McCarthy and Costinha with Porto were eliminating Ferguson
Or in 2005 when I think he crashed home and away to Crespo AC Milan

Or in 2006 when he finished last in a group of Villarreal Benfica and Osaze Lille?

Abi na 2007 wey Kaka and geriatric AC Milan dey beat am like snake

All these before Pep Guardiola came in 09 to flog him in Rome with Yaya Toure playing in Central defence

Before LVG took a mediocre Bayern to eliminate Ferguson in 2010

Guardiola did the 2nd round nacking on Ferguson in 2011 at Wembley in what he said was his worst loss

Truth be told outside EPL Ferguson was slightly above average for the stability and longevity he had as manager of one of the richest team of his time he massively underachieved

The treble they used to hype him for. 5 other teams have done it

He is the Thierry Henry of coaches or a slightly better version.
Undisputed champion in epl, average to poor in CL

All these whitewashing can only fly with those new to football.

When I say some of us have forgotten more football than you can remember this is an example


The fact that you watched it as it was happening, doesn't make the live match longer or shorter nor does it make the actions in the live match more complete or less complete than the recorded version. The match is still the same.same players same pitch,same ball,name them.

Keep your bias for anything British in check before coming at SAF. The man is great and special. Maybe he couldn't find the antidote to ottmar hitzfeld tactics same way pep guardiola hasn't been able to figure out jurgen klopp and Dimatteo tactics which doesn't take anything away from pep guardiola's greatness.


You also need to stop comparing apples with oranges. Aguero wasn't a substitute in the win against QPR like Ole Gunnar soljaker and teddy sherigham who were brought in by Ferguson to effect changes. Its only a fluke if it happened only once,but Ferguson had repeated this same scenario times without numbers during the cause of his career that makes him special. His indecision on whether or not to retire affected his teams morale in the UCL campaigns of the matches you are mentioning not him been tactically inept or what have you. By the way,a coach who produce the only balon d'or winner from the epl an award that has been dominated from players from other league is special. Hence SAF is great and special.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 3:12pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Ancelotti has won 5 league titles in 28 years, despite managing PSG, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, AC Milan and Juventus, whereas Guardiola has won 11 in 15 years. And then if you're going to use the "underdog" argument, he won his four Champions Leagues with the two most successful European clubs of all-time. He's had plenty of money at his clubs also, among or most in the league. People will talk about Guardiola having such great players when Ancelotti has coached peak Zidane, Shevchenko, Maldini, Nesta, Pirlo, Kaka, Cafu, Ronaldo, Benzema, Modric, Ramos, Lampard, Drogba, Lewandowski, Lahm, Robben, Vinicius etc

This is a UCL conversation. Who is the most successful manager in the UCL?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:12pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


These guys led defence to higher league standing and none of them has ever led a team to losing a 4-0 first leg lead


The great defenders like Nesta,Maldini,all lost a 3-0 leads in just 45mins in a UCL finals match,also lost another 3-0 aggregate lead in the UCL knockout round. Maybe losing the kind of leads are the Hallmark of great defenders that which we can't speak about Guehi and your Mings.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:18pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Only failed coaches manage National teams

Pep won't be competing with Scaloni and Southgate

Did Del-bosque failed at club coaching before managing the national team or how did Marcelo lippi a failure before taking over the national team. You have others like your legend Franz bencabauer?

How is Hanz flicks fairing with the national team after conquering club football?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:32pm On Jun 12, 2023
popizaino:



If you like let your father own a club,if you don't know how to coach,you will struggle. If it didn't dey,he didn't dey.
I understand who
Don good don good but I’m just saying that it do help Pep too to be stable and do his job effectively. One of the reason he left Bayern is due to the control of the board.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:35pm On Jun 12, 2023
popizaino:



The fact that you watched it as it was happening, doesn't make the live match longer or shorter nor does it make the actions in the live match more complete or less complete than the recorded version. The match is still the same.same players same pitch,same ball,name them.

Keep your bias for anything British in check before coming at SAF. The man is great and special. Maybe he couldn't find the antidote to ottmar hitzfeld tactics same way pep guardiola hasn't been able to figure out jurgen klopp and Dimatteo tactics which doesn't take anything away from pep guardiola's greatness.


You also need to stop comparing apples with oranges. Aguero wasn't a substitute in the win against QPR like Ole Gunnar soljaker and teddy sherigham who were brought in by Ferguson to effect changes. Its only a fluke if it happened only once,but Ferguson had repeated this same scenario times without numbers during the cause of his career that makes him special. His indecision on whether or not to retire affected his teams morale in the UCL campaigns of the matches you are mentioning not him been tactically inept or what have you. By the way,a coach who produce the only balon d'or winner from the epl an award that has been dominated from players from other league is special. Hence SAF is great and special.



You cap a lot. Pep hasn't been able to figure out Jurgen Klopp yet he flogged Klopp 4-1 just a few months back

Hitzfeld beat Ferguson repeatedly home and away and 1 fluke win in injury time doesn't change that

Ferguson is only special in England. In Europe he was average

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On Jun 12, 2023
popizaino:



The great defenders like Nesta,Maldini,all lost a 3-0 leads in just 45mins in a UCL finals match,also lost another 3-0 aggregate lead in the UCL knockout round. Maybe losing the kind of leads are the Hallmark of great defenders that which we can't speak about Guehi and your Mings.

Did Nesta and Maldini also lead their club to finishing 11th on the league table
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:44pm On Jun 12, 2023
popizaino:


Did Del-bosque failed at club coaching before managing the national team or how did Marcelo lippi a failure before taking over the national team. You have others like your legend Franz bencabauer?

How is Hanz flicks fairing with the national team after conquering club football?

There are 2 categories of National team coaches. Those who failed to get club jobs and those who are old and wanted to retire to an easier jobs where they will play 10 serious games a year

Del Bosque went from Madrid to Besiktas to retirement ground

Lippi after a serious career went to retire at National team.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:51pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


You cap a lot. Pep hasn't been able to figure out Jurgen Klopp yet he flogged Klopp 4-1 just a few months back

Hitzfeld beat Ferguson repeatedly home and away and 1 fluke win in injury time doesn't change that

Ferguson is only special in England. In Europe he was average


Has pep guardiola been able to figure out Klopp in Europe? You can't make four finals in Europe and winning two and be called average. You can't dominate the epl that is dubbed as the toughest and the most competitive league to be called average in Europe.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:52pm On Jun 12, 2023
raumdeuter:


Did Nesta and Maldini also lead their club to finishing 11th on the league table


Have Guehi and Mings also lead their teams to fourth place finish in the league?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 3:57pm On Jun 12, 2023
popizaino:



Has pep guardiola been able to figure out Klopp in Europe? You can't make four finals in Europe and winning two and be called average. You can't dominate the epl that is dubbed as the toughest and the most competitive league to be called average in Europe.

Oga, no dey waste your time. Na for only Nairaland Alex Ferguson bi below average but in the sport industry, he remains the second most decorated coach in European competition history. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:00pm On Jun 12, 2023
popizaino:



Has pep guardiola been able to figure out Klopp in Europe? You can't make four finals in Europe and winning two and be called average. You can't dominate the epl that is dubbed as the toughest and the most competitive league to be called average in Europe.

Pep faced Klopp 4 times this season 2 wins 2 loses

So how does he figure him out

If you wait 25yrs in the biggest club you will make more than 4 finals

Thierry Henry dominated EPL and was mediocre in Europe
Hazard molested the epl in some years but was a disaster in Europe

Ferguson won 13 leagues in 26yrs and won 2 CL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:04pm On Jun 12, 2023
forgiveness:


Oga, no dey waste your time. Na for only Nairaland Alex Ferguson bi below average but in the sport industry, he remains the second most decorated coach in European competition history. grin

England na hype. No be so dem hype all the players Terry best, Rio best Cashley best Beckham best Lampard best Rooney best Gerrard best

World class all of them according to English media yet no semi final

Ferguson wey be everyone wife in Europe na what?

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