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Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 2:41am On Jun 13, 2023 |
1Sharon: Whose historical trends? The advantage in Western Sahel over rest of West Africa is written record, nothing more. But Yoruba also had records of history, it was done in art forms. The advantage of one over the other is what gave upper hand to Western Sahel, but it does not in anyway put origin of Agbada at their doorstep. See, Arabs call flowing gowns Abaya. To follow the migratory trend you alluded to,,,, 1. Arabs took Islamic culture to Sahel with Abaya 2. Western sahel call it Boubou, not Abaya. 3. Western sahel brought Islam to Yoruba. So where did Yoruba get the idea of Agbada, a cognate with Abaya? Neither fulani, nor Hausa or even Kanuri call it Abaya. These are all Islamic culture around us Did the language term "Abaya" lept from Arabia and singled out Yoruba as its destination? It doesnt take rock science to understand what happened. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 2:46am On Jun 13, 2023 |
1Sharon: What name is middleeastern, persian, you mean Imperial Yoruba, or referring to Agbada? Because middle east practiced Yoruba spiritual philosophy in past |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 2:53am On Jun 13, 2023 |
Creeper: Thank you, yes, Aso Olona is indeed what ended becoming george as it traveled the coast from West to East. Good information. Thanks! 1 Like |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by Axis313(m): 8:01am On Jun 13, 2023 |
incandescentena:Don't start again na.
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Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by NoToPile: 8:02am On Jun 13, 2023 |
ImperialYoruba: Interesting points. |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by 1Sharon(f): 11:36am On Jun 13, 2023 |
ImperialYoruba: They are going to call it boubou, not abaya since they don't speak Arabic. But Boubou is an africanized abaya. Muslims on the East Coast are also wearing it. The common denominator is Islam. If you're saying Agbadas don't come from Islam. Why are you saying it's the cognate of Abaya? Why are you linking them together if you insist they aren't related? Please address the links I've given. Let's stop going around in circles. |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 11:55am On Jun 13, 2023 |
1Sharon: It is origin of words and etymology, nothing to do with religion. So before religion of Islam people existed. Those people had faith, they had culture and they had language. Calling God Allah was part of their faith. There was nothing called Islam at that time. Arabs are not all muslims, there are Arabs that practice judaism, there are Arabs that are christians and Arabs that are muslims. When you see Arab woman in hijab, she is not necessarily a muslim. She could be christian. So as a first step, i want you to separate Abaya from being a muslim term. The way, in above example, you will separate hijab from being a muslim culture. There is linguistic link in all the expressions and imagery of Agbada/Abaya and Buba/Boubou. They sound more related than unrelated. In image they look the same, and with a single alteration you could erase the difference between them. Do you agree? |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by 1Sharon(f): 12:16pm On Jun 13, 2023 |
ImperialYoruba: Most Arabs are muslims and not Jews or Christians. Why should I separate hijabs and Abaya from Muslims when wearing those items are requirements in Islam? Those items were cultural before they became muslims but now it's has become religious. Christians may veil but they in no way need to veil like a Muslim does. Hijab and abayas are not requirements in Christianity. If Africans are dressing like Arabs, an Arab muslim taught them that, not a christian. Yoruba's and other coastal West Africans aren't desert people so have no need to dress like that. Why are you trying to find a link if you say they aren't related? What is your point? Can you please address the links I've given? All you're doing is talking based on your feelings with nothing to back it up. |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 7:13pm On Jun 13, 2023 |
1Sharon: If Africans are dressisng like Arabs ![]() Look, dont piss me off. ![]() Could Africans have taught Arabs to dress the way they do? Have you considered that Arabs may have learnt mode of dressing in Abaya from Africans? When we talk of Arabs introducing Islam to West Africa sef, who were those Arabs that pioneered the expansion and transformed cultures? What did they look like, what was their culture, their belief system? I dont see link, repost. |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by Timatayo1: 7:58pm On Jun 13, 2023 |
Agbada is yoruba language yoruba own Agbada period |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by 1Sharon(f): 8:10am On Jun 14, 2023 |
ImperialYoruba: Why would Arabs sit down and learn cultures and practises from people they considered inferior and took as slaves? Is that how colonisation works? Who colonised who? Did the British start dressing like Africans or the other way around? Check your mentions, I've sent a few links |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by 1Sharon(f): 8:11am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Timatayo1: Okay. What does it mean. What is the etymology of the word? |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 12:44pm On Jun 14, 2023 |
1Sharon: Arabs were not origins of Mecca. They came from elsewhere to settle in Mecca. Their practise of orisha worship came with them on that migration. As orisha worshippers, they did not keep slaves. They began keeping slaves after accepting Islam. Were Arabs wearing Abaya before Islam? I need you to answer that. |
Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jun 14, 2023 |
ImperialYoruba:lol 😆 |
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