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Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 2:14pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Jesus was presented to the temple on the 40th day and not 8th day. Purification of the new mother and presentation of the baby to the Lord is done on the 40th day according to the law of Moses. 'And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord. As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord; And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.' Luke 2.22-24 Read the Leveticus 12.1-8 for proper understanding. It's too long can't bring it here. But baby Jesus went to Jerusalem on the 40th day. Besides your 8th day theory isn't practicable. Neonates are too small and weak to embark on any remarkable journey at that time. The exposure to cold isn't an healthy thing for a little baby. That's why most culture wait until baby is strong enough after neonatal period to do child dedication. I'm not sure how these relates to the wise men visit, but if u differ on the travel journey, I ask u again- tell me where they started their journey. Besides 1 month is enough for the wise men to travel down from where ever they journeyed from. The young generation in Iran are abandoning Islam and u say it's insignificant. Who will make up the greater population tmrw, who will give birth to the future, will they teach them Islam? Why is Europe genuinely afraid of her future with more than 30 percent of her young population being foreign migrants. The fastest growing religion right now in Iran is Christianity. Once again I ask. Did the wise men worshipped little baby Jesus OR the divinity in Jesus. 1 Like |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 2:17pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Na holy spirit inspire you to abuse me! Open your eye and your mind while reading! Show me all those verses u quoted where they worshipped the person. Nobody worshipped Jesus just as Abraham and others just bowed for others as a sign of respect! Na your translators dey translate nonsense when it comes to Jesus! Jesus must be God sha! Which divinity does baby Jesus possess? When Jesus was worshipping God in Matthew 26:39, Which divinity does he have? Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” May your eyes be opened! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 2:19pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Adegunwa nko |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 2:19pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by tonytony208(m): 2:21pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian: One of your clerics said Jesus is dead and not in heaven. Is that what your Quran said? This has been answered previously! Jesus son of Maryam will come back again! He will defeat the antichrist (Dajjal), destroy the pigs and deny Christianity while ruling with Islam! He will get married and live till he finally dies and is buried as a Muslim! Lolz. According to your story book called Quran. . Quran, the manipulated copy of the Bible. Muhammad has died! Jesus didn't die! He will come back to complete his life and then die! According to the useless book called Quran. Muhammad is in the grave alive in the life of the afterlife! But your useless story book said he would first burn in hell before being saved in the last day, provided the idol Allah decides to save him after he fvcked his son's wife and kissed the penis of boys. Yes, Jesus is in heaven body and soul as he never died! Allah willed it as such and Jesus will descend as one of the signs of the end of time to complete his destiny and die! According to the Quran, the poor copy of the Bible. Because my salvation is not dependent on miracles! But your salvation depends on the lies and deceptions according to the fake book called Quran, right? esus was in the womb for months so he can't be God! Your Quran called him Spirit of God and Word of God. . Do you by any means know the meaning of those words? Your book of empty story said Jesus performed miracles as a baby and even spoke as a baby. Do those words sound like what a mere human can do? Did your sexual pervert prophet even do half of what Jesus did and is doing? We follow the God of Jesus, Allah, the Lord and Cherisher of the universe! Allah is one of the idols worshipped in Mecca. The true God is YHWH, not allah, the idol. Muslims are idol worshippers. Antichristian, the Abọ̀rìsà! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 2:24pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
advocatejare: Who is he? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 2:25pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian: So in summary, u denied the verse that said baby Jesus was worshipped because u can't answer it. TenQ, advocatejare...see antiChristian telling me the bible is corrupt. Is this another Takiya or he's truly stuck. If bible is corrupt what should we say about the Koran. Well let's wait for Lukuluku69, may be he can answer the question. Be like say that question too hard for antiChristian. 1 Like |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 2:42pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Which verse? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 2:42pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
tonytony208: None of my Cleric said that! Stop telling lies! Holy spirit didn't reveal my cleric to you! Lolz. According to your story book called Quran. . Quran, the manipulated copy of the Bible.Manipulated by an unlettered man who couldn't read nor write! Even Jesus didn't write a chapter out of the whole Bible! According to the useless book called Quran.More so, you are most useless! Of what reason would you abuse my book when you don't believe in it. This actually confirms you work with the devil! This is my last comment for you since you lack sense now! But your useless story book said he would first burn in hell before being saved in the last day, provided the idol Allah decides to save him after he fvcked his son's wife and kissed the penis of boys. K |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 2:48pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Which verse o jere |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 3:06pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian: “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him So do u want to attempt my question now. Did the wise men worshipped little baby Jesus that was enjoying the warm cuddle of his mother OR the divinity in Jesus. Let me give u a tip to make it easier for u. 35[i] The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. [/i] |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 3:09pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Don't worry about antiChristian. Him never chop, by the time he chop better food, his brain will recharge. Just answer my question I asked you. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 4:04pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian:One of your Ustaz doing dawah for Allah in Nigeria: Jamiu Adegunwa |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 4:21pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
SIRTee15: The Wise Men story was a fabrication. It never happened. It was a LIE to hoodwink the Zoroastrians who are looking out for a Reformer of their own corrupt Religion. Do some Research. The Zoroastrians are looking for Astvat -ereta or Soeoeshyant. That story that they visited Babe Jesus was a fabrication. The Persians have been Muslims now for more than 1,400 years. Believe whatever you want to believe that's your Cup of Kunu make you dey sip am! Every one with Internet knows the growing Religion and the waning one. It is true the Jewish Customs dedicate newborns on the 40th day. That doesn't remove the fact that the Wise men could have travelled all the way from Persia to Judea within 8 Days from the sighting of a Star in the East (Persia) to when it came to rest at the Manger. Newborns can't travel far you say? But the Bible says Jesus and Momma japa'd to Egypt to evade Herod's massacre, na Flight ✈️✈️✈️ Dem take? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by tonytony208(m): 4:32pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM26yC757/. Watch the video and stop defending what you don't know. Manipulated by an unlettered man who couldn't read nor write! “I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.” ~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111) Even Jesus didn't write a chapter out of the whole Bible! Yet, your Mohamed copied the stories he heard about the Bible and lied to you that angel Gabriel gave him a new book called Quran. More so, you are most useless! Of what reason would you abuse my book when you don't believe in it. Oga, bring one evidence to prove that Quran is the word of God. You cursed Christian hater. Antichristian the Abọ̀rìsà. You spill ram blood every year to sacrifice to the idol called allah. The name of the One true God is YHWH! Stop lying and deceving the world. Islam will die if you don't abuse Christians. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 4:49pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Ok u sef don deny the verse of wise men worshipping Jesus. U made a claim the magi story is a fabrication. Bring evidence, no need for all these Zoroastrian theory. The first one u brought forward has been punctured and fell flat. Unless u bring another valid evidence, your claim is rejected. How old was Jesus when they fled to egypt. Lukuluku69, sit down and do a timeline of jesus childhood. Why do u think herod targeted kids below 2 yrs. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 5:04pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
tonytony208:How is he my cleric? “I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”Is this an hadith or Qur'an? What's the context? Is it Saheeh? Yet, your Mohamed copied the stories he heard about the Bible and lied to you that angel Gabriel gave him a new book called Quran.How did he copy and didn't copy your trinity and all the misconceptions you ascribe to God and Jesus? Oga, bring one evidence to prove that Quran is the word of God. You cursed Christian hater.You should read it holistically! Antichristian the Abọ̀rìsà. Idol does not reside above the heavens! Allah rose over the seven heavens! The name of the One true God is YHWH!Na so you can't pronounce the consonants! Stop lying and deceving the world. I am exposing your hypocrisy here! For example, not it is clear you have no holy spirit in you! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 5:06pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
advocatejare: You should be wiser than these but bigotry won't let you see front! How is he one of my ustaz? Can I call indaboski pahoze one of your Clerics? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 5:08pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
SIRTee15: Which verse is this? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 5:19pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian:By “your” I mean Islamic/Muslim Ustaz. I understand that there are many sects in Islam, so it’s understandable if you are not in his sect. But is he not a Muslim doing dawah for Allah? You can call him if his actions and words are Christlike. A Christian is someone like Christ. So if anyone is not Christlike, he’s not a Christian let alone, a cleric But Adegunwa fits into the definition of a Muslim and an Ustaz as he has many students/followers! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 5:23pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
advocatejare:I don't know him! Period! You can call him if his actions and words are Christlike. A Christian is someone like Christ. So if anyone is not Christlike, he’s not a Christian let alone, a cleric So, those lying Pastors that saw Obi winning elections do not have students? Even devil no get students? Which kind analogy be this? |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by TenQ: 5:24pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: Exactly like pagans who can swear with the stones, the knife, the hill, the sun, the moon their mothers life. Whoever wrote the quran is a Man swearing exactly like a Man. The God of Abraham couldn't swear by Anything other than Himself Heb 6:13-14: "For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he swore by himself, Saying, Surely blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply you." The Difference is clear!: the God of Abraham is Not Allah who swears like pagan humans Lukuluku69:How can the Fig be called to witness when it cannot move to the point of swearing? Are you saying that Allah is swearing by Israel? 1. Who is Israel according to Allah in the Quran? 2. Why is Allah swearing by Israel? 1 Like |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 5:32pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian: None of this verse is new to u but I will not allow u hide behind one finger. “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” Mat 2.2 On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Mat 2.11 i] The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. Luke 1.35 Now answer my question. Did the wise men worshipped little baby Jesus that was enjoying the warm cuddle of his mother OR the divinity in Jesus. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 5:36pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
TenQ: Na wa o, another mumbo jumbo in the Qur'an. What did Muhammed think was Israel. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by TenQ: 5:43pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
SIRTee15:I have asked him to find me the verse in the quran to no avail : at least he should prove his insinuation |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 5:44pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian:Alright. You’re just being unreasonable. I was trying to tell you why I refer to him as Ustaz because Ustaz means teacher/leader, that was why I pointed it to you that he had students. As per the lying pastors, they must have copied it from Muhammad who was notorious for giving false prophecies! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 5:49pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
TenQ:Lukuluku69 is notorious for that, he never takes responsibility for anything in his life. He’s just like Muhammad, when he told someone to use honey to cure his loose stool and it didn’t work, muhammad like he was blamed the man’s stomach for not responding to honey rather than take responsibility that is recommendation failed! A servants can’t be different. Like Muhammad like Luku |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by TenQ: 6:00pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
advocatejare:I agree with you! Allah swearing the swear of men prove that he's a man (Mohammed himself is Allah) 1 Like |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 6:22pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
SIRTee15: If you need evidence that the Zoroastrians are waiting for a Reformer, read up on that Faith. Research! I can actually help out but I won't because you won't believe it coming from me. So, go dig stuff on your own. The Internet and a Device, you have a Library before you. You are asking me how old was Jesus when his Momma fled with him? Really really? Ask Mathew nah, he wrote the story or better still, entreat the Holy Spirit to inspire you with that? An age could not be given because it was a fabrication. No wise men came, no massacre occured, no Egypt journey. He just lumped stuff together to prove and claim fulfilment of Prophesy. I wish I had the time, even if I do, you won't believe them. Weaning Christians from Lies foisted on them is an herculean task. |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 6:32pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
TenQ:Muhammad was the god, Allah was his creation to deceive people! |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by TenQ: 6:45pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
advocatejare:Mohammed is the greatest 419 since Adam. He over did it that Aisha could not help but exclaim why Allah seem to obey Mohammeds slightest wish. They didn't know that the man under the masquerade costume is the masquerade 1 Like |
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by tonytony208(m): 6:50pm On Jun 15, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Are you now denying one of your own because his behaviour is shameful? . You Muslims can't even agree among yourselves. Some rever Jesus, while some try to reduce Jesus. Religion of confusion. . Yet, you are quick at condemning others. Is this an hadith or Qur'an? What's the context? Is it Saheeh? So, you don't even know about your own religion writings? How did he copy and didn't copy your trinity and all the misconceptions you ascribe to God and Jesus? How come many of the stories in the Quran already existed in the Bible? Bunch of deceptive copycats! Idol does not reside above the heavens! Allah rose over the seven heavens! That's the lie Mohamed, the pedophile wants you to believe. I am exposing your hypocrisy here! If you have holy spirit, you won't call yourself a slave of God. Rather, you will call yourself a son of God because the holy spirit isn't the spirit of slavery but the spirit of sonship. I'm certain you are too spiritually blind to understand that. A slave will always be a slave. Antichristian the Abọ̀rìsà. |
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