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Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 6:58pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:I told you the word translated as serve in reference to Jesus in Daniel 7vv14 is not obeisance. Why don't you check it up yourself? It is service offered only to Jehovah. You have seen several verses pointing to the fact that Jesus is not the same as Jehovah so if you're still interested in your trinity no one is holding you back we have been freed from the lies of trinity Jehovah is One God not three in One! Deuteronomy 6:4 compare to Mark 12:29Neither did I say Jehovah is three gods in one. However, that does not mean we should close our eyes to the truth. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:05pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: A king must be served that's why they're called "LORD" so if Jesus is King of God's kingdom he will surely be served just like other kings. The truth remains that Jesus is not the Almighty God who asked Jesus to sit at his right hand! Psalm 110:1 ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 8:47pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Do you offer kings the service rendered to Jehovah? Jesus is not served like other kings, he is served as Jehovah God himself it is in the bible. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 9:12pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: The revelation of Jesus that the God Almighty gave Jesus, Revelation 1:1 & John 17:7. The God Almighty OWNS the Revelation given to His son, Jesus. Somebody sent you to read His speech at an event. You get to the event of the speech & be LYING that you,the Reader owns the speech. ![]() ![]() Revelation 3:2, Jesus Christ has conveyed God's disapproval of your Trinitarian posture tayy tayy. ![]() Steep:Oga Steep,Trinity is making you TWIST the holy scriptures. ![]() ![]() John 15:15, who is teaching Jesus Christ? John 15:15 & Matthew 6:9, Oga Steep, where did Jesus Christ learn how to pray? Did Jesus receive that teaching in heaven? Steep: Your fellow Trinitarian,Bill Mounce Interlinear Greek,Phillipians 2:6 PROVEN screenshot evidence that Jesus had NOT equality to grasp. Trinitarians thought it not robbery to ADD & TWIST Phillipians 2:6. "Thought it not robbery" doesn't even appear in the Greek manuscript. ![]()
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Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 9:49pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: Oga Steep ,read the screenshot thesaurus. Synonyms for Sent = Ordered. The screenshot PROVEN evidence PROVEN that John 3:16, Jesus Christ spoke the truth.
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Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 9:57pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep:Isaiah 42:8 Jehovah God does NOT share His glory with Idols & pagans, unbelievers. Referenced as "another" in Isaiah 42:8. John 17:7,22,24, Jesus Christ shares his Father's glory with the disciples/co rulers in heaven. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 10:14pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: No,Sir. John 15:15 & Matthew 6:9, in heaven Jesus Christ learnt how to pray & was taught by God his Father. On earth he passed on the teaching that God taught him (Jesus).. Steep: Matthew 20:28 & Hebrew1:14 ,is Jesus Christ a ministering spirit in human form? Yes! Is Jesus Christ a servant of God's in the spiritual realm. Revelation 3:2,5 confirmed that. Yes ! Oga, please don't DECEIVE YOURSELF. ![]() ![]() Steep: Oga,When did giving someone an assignment to perform for you meaning that he has final say? John 7:16 |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 10:42pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: Oga Steep is a polytheist who claims he Worship the only true God and another true God. Oga, continue DECEIVING YOURSELF.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 10:45pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: 1 Corinthians 15:24-27 & 1 Corinthians 11:3, Oga Steep, where is your absolute authority coming from? |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 10:48pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: Jehovah alone has absolute authority, power over Jesus. Oga, is this fact clearer to you? |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 11:01pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: @John 15:15, in heaven,Jesus Christ is receiving instructions and teachings from God his Father, but you doubt that he is a servant in heaven. Steep: It pleases the God his Father to grant Jesus that privilege. Steep:@ Matthew 4:10, Jesus Christ says you are on your own. ![]() Hebrew1:6, the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible published by Trinitarians, also said "Oga Steep, you are on your own" ![]() Steep: @ Daniel 7:14, son of man references Jesus Christ. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 11:05pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: Oga, the screenshots PROVEN you are TWISTING the holy scriptures and at the same time, TWISTING the word "serve" which means deep respect and admiration." Daniel 3:18 provides lucid evidences that serve (Hebrew lexicon 6399) is NOT Worship. Screenshots evidences.....
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Re: Is God A Trinity? by Janosky: 11:10pm On Jun 20, 2023 |
Steep: Oga, stop TWISTING the holy scriptures.
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Re: Is God A Trinity? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:01am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky: All he wants is for his Jesus to be ABC XYZ all other things are immaterial to him, that's why they only gather gullible churchgoers who have nothing to preach or teach as disciples! |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 4:36am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:Didn't you read that it is the revelation of Jesus christ You are the polytheist pagan here. You believe there are Many deities and Jehovah is only a senior deity. Oga Steep,Trinity is making you TWIST the holy scriptures."Thought it not rubbery" is an English translation not Greek. Did you even read what you wrote? Jesus is in the form of God. Go and check what forme mean in Greek? |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 4:39am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:Didn't you read in Phillipians that Jesus took the form of a servant? Jesus came as a servant of God but he was not a servant at all. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 4:47am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:So Jehovah can share his glory with his angels right? |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:57am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Steep: "I have given (shared with) them the glory that you have given (shared with) me, in order that they may be one just as we are one" John 17:22 Jesus Christ shares his Father's glory with the disciples/co rulers in heaven. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 4:57am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:whether God his father taught him how to pray or not I'd not the issue. Jesus prayed because he was a human being. Matthew 20:28 & Hebrew1:14 ,is Jesus Christ a ministering spirit in human form?Actually Hebrews disproved the idea that Jesus is an angel. Hebrews 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Revelation 3vv 2,5 was after Jesus had willingly taken up the form a servant. Oga,When did giving someone an assignment to perform for you meaning that he has final say?yes, when you give someone total power to rule your establishment you have given him absolute power over that establishment. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 4:58am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:You are the polytheist here who believe Jehovah is merely a senior god among other gods. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 4:59am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:what does having "all power" mean to you |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 5:01am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:I don't doubt that he is a servant but he took the form on his self, it was not original. It pleases the God his Father to grant Jesus that privilege.It pleases the father that Jesus should have the exact same honor that he has? Yes it sure did because Jesus is God. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:02am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Steep: So when Pharaoh of Egypt gave Joseph the ring as the ruler of ALL Egypt Pharaoh was no longer on his throne, shey? Genesis 41:41-44 ![]() |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 5:06am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:what does worship mean? The word translated as "serve " is peculiar to service to the only true God, not kings. There two word translated as serve in the old testament one is general service to both men, and true God but the second is strictly the true God. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 5:07am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Janosky:I am not. Why don't you paste the Hebrew translation and it's usage let's see. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 5:11am On Jun 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:It doesn't mean Pharaoh is no longer on the throne but Joseph became the absolute power over Egypt of cause this excludes Pharaoh. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:03am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Steep: That's the point! So all worshipers are to face Jehovah with their petitions {Matthew 6:6; Philippians 4:6} just as Jesus also approach God with his own petitions {Hebrews 5:7} but when talking about how to do Jehovah's will we must all congregate in the name of Jesus who will join and lead us {Matthew 18:20} in the worship of our God and father JEHOVAH! John 20:17 |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 6:34am On Jun 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Why then did Stephen prayed to Jesus, or is Stephen not a worshipper of Jehovah? According to scriptures the spirit of man returns to who? Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:57am On Jun 21, 2023 |
Steep: Stephen was looking at Jesus standing at God's right hand, the person he could relate with in that scenario is Jesus whom he knew face to face as one of his disciples. So he talked to Jesus just as they always do when he was with them but when it comes to prayers Jesus directed all his disciples to pray to God not him! Matthew 6:6 |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 10:16am On Jun 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Stephen did not know Jesus face to face, he was not among the disciples who was with Jesus during his ministry on earth. Why did Stephen choose to commit his spirit into Jesus hands, was he not suppose to follow Jesus example who committed his spirit to Jehovah's hands, Stephen literally saw Jesus standing at Jehovah's right hand side yet choose instead to commit his spirit to Jesus who so? When Stephen called upon Jesus was he calling upon Jehovah or Jesus? So he talked to Jesus just as they always do when he was with them but when it comes to prayers Jesus directed all his disciples to pray to God not him! Matthew 6:6 But Stephen prayed to Jesus. Why did Paul prayed to Jesus in 1 Corinthians 1:1–2? |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:13pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Steep:How many disciples of Jesus did you know? It was only the names of twelve out of his numerous disciples that were mentioned in the gospels because he made them Apostles {Luke 6:13} so Stephen has been one of those not mentioned by name in the gospels but he was with them all along! Act 6:5-6 Steep: Prayer is when you're speaking to an unseen supernatural being but when you're seeing the person directly it's no longer a prayer! ![]() |
Re: Is God A Trinity? by Steep(m): 1:04pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:But you assumed Stephen knew Jesus face to face without any proof. Any way isn't Stephen supposed to commit his spirit to Jehovah? Prayer is when you're speaking to an unseen supernatural being but when you're seeing the person directly it's no longer a prayer!But Paul was not seeing the Lord at the moment of prayer That by the way side, Why did the whole Christiandom call upon the name of the Lord instead of the name of Jehovah? 1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: Can you give example of the early church call upon Jehovah's name. |
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