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Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Kukutenla: 1:47pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Christistruth03:Keep quiet. The section in the constitution never said anything about renouncing citizenship. What it said is if you take citizenship of another country voluntarily, you can't be gov. Try and understand the difference. It does not say you're no longer a citizen. Not all citizens can be gov or president. A citizen who is below 18, or with no evidence of secondary school education, or who has been convicted of a crime can't be gov. It doesn't mean his citizenship is renounced. 1 Like |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by okuta007: 1:48pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Creeper: once again - the Nigerian judiciary is on trial.... IF the laws will not be obeyed, then let's erase the constitution so at least we can all agree (formally) to stop deceiving ourselves. TODAY, a Drug Baron sits as the leader of our country, he is the face of Nigeria to the world. Not you and I - BUT when anyone thinks or talks about Nigeria today JUNE 23, 2023 - Bola Tinubu is the representation of that discussion and that does not worry you as Nigerian who has pride, dignity and integrity? That the world is watching us erase our collective values ? "I Pledge to NIGERIA my country, to be FAITHFUL, LOYAL and HONEST " (where is the honesty here bro if we can not tell simple truths when it matters to save our country from shame?) .................." to defend her unity, and UPHOLD HER HONOR and GLORY" (by allowing a drug baron rule over your land? ) IF this is what we all have agreed to do, That is very OK by me, we are all in this together - Nigeria belongs to all of us - then let us erase the constitution - and live according to the NEW creed that we have agreed to - so at least we can formally stop deceiving ourselves -- and let the new pledge be: "I ABHOR NIGERIA my COUNTRY, to be UNFAITHFUL, DISLOYAL and DISHONEST, to REBEL AGAINST NIGERIA WITH ALL MY STRENGTH, to PROMOTE her DISNUITY, and DISGRACE her and make her a LAUGHING STOCK in the committee of NATIONS, SO help me GOD" The above pledge is BEST for us since we all want to be crazy - promoting tribalism and refusing to be patriotic because of greed! |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Codes151(m): 1:48pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Moh247:sense u no get |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Penguin2: 1:48pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
LegendHero:Well, just pray the courts don’t think otherwise if not that Chinedu you hate is your next Governor. Meanwhile, Atiku has submitted evidence in court that shows your Tinubu is female. Hope you still think he doesn’t have a case?😎 |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Kukutenla: 1:49pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
jackcanfield:Where is it written that taking oath of office of a gov means you've renounced citizenship of another country. You're not sure. You're just imagining things. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Christistruth03: 1:50pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kukutenla: The Supreme court threw it Out In the Case of Saraki , Atiku, Adeosun and Isola Are you aware that Gen Sani Abacha was also a Citizen of Chad where his father came from ? 2 Likes |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Dancebreaker: 1:50pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Christistruth03:Bukola was born in London when Oloye was a medic there. Kemi was also born in London. There was automatic citizenship by birth in UK those days. Unless your parents were foreign diplomats. Both did not voluntarily apply for foreign citizenship, they were born with it. So the laws sees their case differently. Abacha also didn't apply for Chad citizenship. The law is a bit silly here because whether you were born with it or acquired it, you have allegiance to a foreign country and that country may use you as a spy. But the law is the law. Presidency/VP and governorship/DG are executive positions that come with immunity from the law. Unlike senators, house of rep, commissioners or ministers that make key decisions but have no immunity. So I guess the law seeks to guarantee a high level of allegiance to 9ja for those executive positions. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kukutenla: What is an oath and what does it entail... He took an oath for citizenship and by virtue of his oath of office he has also renounce it by proclaiming full allegiance to Nigeria ... |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by fergie001: 1:52pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
senatordave1:Forgery is serious offence, little wonder Mbah is almost romancing Tinubu these days. Others might run away..... Like in CRS, Hamzat is a Deputy-Gov who was only nominated, there are ways to run around these things. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Christistruth03: 1:52pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Dancebreaker: Not only that O !! The President of Nigeria must also approve your renounced Citizenship application form You cannot renounce your Nigerian Citizenship until Mr President says so !!!! And signs it !!! Let me give it to you Straight Hamzat never renounced his Citizenship and even if he did ( Which he didn't ) President Tinubu of Nigeria under the constitution of Nigeria has the right and full authority to restore it !!!!; Cc LegendHero 2 Likes
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Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Raskimonojendor: 1:56pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Helpfromabove1:I have a friend that is an assembly member. These current batch under Obasa are all Tinubu's boys. Dem get craze for head pass Sanwo Olu |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by IfnobeGod20: 1:59pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Moh247:See the way you just confuse your like. The case you're referring to here is the case between Buhari and Atiku, wherein Buhari claimed Atiku wasn't a Nigerian as at the time Atiku was born, because Jedda was then in the territory of Cameron. These are two different cases entirely and remotely not related. I am even so surprise, after every sections of the constitution had been opened to you, you still went haywire just to appear clever but finally made mess of your intelligence. It's not everything you poke your nose on, there are issues that are left untouched as to protect your integrity and intelligence. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by siofragspot: 1:59pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
NLPoliceWomanmanna you and those mods don smoke abi? 1 Like |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by optimusprime2(m): 2:00pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Abeg me sef don taya the matter... I have already concluded that Naija's leadership system can facilitate the enthronement of babboons into power. The solution, Japa! |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Raskimonojendor: 2:00pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
seangy4konji: tinsel: Like Chimaroke Nnamani (Former Governor of Enugu) and Willy obiano (Former Governor of Anambra). Both American citizens. The Doctor that Alex report was pushing around for governor of Anambra candidate is also an American citizen. All aquired. 1 Like |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by afadi2410: 2:01pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Moh247: You no get sense,go and read your constitution well |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by benji93: 2:03pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Quite interesting. But whenever you quote something, do quote the entirety of it. You ignored the first part 66(1). No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or House of Representatives. This matter is with respect to a state. That was clearly not covered. That's the first loophole. The second is even if the office of the state governor was part of it, this case may not be considered seriously because Sanwo Olu was the one elected not him. You may have to find another part of the constitution i am afraid. ehissi: 1 Like |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by IfnobeGod20: 2:04pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
jackcanfield:Are you telling the world that taking an oath of office had automatically renounced an oath of allegiance to other country? Please more explanation and the law that back up that.. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Saao(m): 2:05pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Moh247:this case is different. He sworn to an oaths denouncing Nigeria that's what it means. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Saao(m): 2:07pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
benji93:both of them are elected and they are running joint tickets, what ever happened to deputy, affect the governor, balyesa case come to mind |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by benji93: 2:07pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
In other words, your freedom from Nigeria is not in your hands. You are bound to Nigeria until Mr President says so. . It also seems renouncing your allegiance to other states according to the US is a formality. In truth you can retain your other citizenship if you so wish. Christistruth03: 1 Like |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by LegendHero(m): 2:08pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Penguin2: Lol which Chinedu and which court? Una like okay too much. Yes I saw that comedy to say Tinubu na female. I just hope na fine babe be the Tinubu and I hope she get big backside coz I love huge one. Both Atiku and him lawyer dey craze. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Raskimonojendor: 2:09pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Christistruth03:It's not like America is China where dual nationality is not allowed. Even to renounce one's citizenship requires approval from the presidency. I am sure Hamzat travels around with a Nigerian diplomat passport. Something someone that has renounced Nigerian nationality won't have access to. Chimaroke and Obiano. Former governors of Enugu and Anambra respectively are both American citizen as well. Including that American Doctor that contested for Governorship of Anambra. Much ado over nothing. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by benji93: 2:13pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
You should address both points. You only addressed the lesser of the two. I can concede that point, even though I still think it's a loophole. The much more important issue is does that section of the constitution include election into the state government? The section clearly doesn't confirm that. Saao: |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Kukutenla: 2:15pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
jackcanfield:You're adding what's not in the oath of allegiance for public office to it. The oath does not state that you renounce any allegiance or citizenship like the oath of US does. Besides, the oath is administered only for those who are qualified to be gov. It is not a prerequisite to be qualified to be gov. You have to be qualified to take the oath and for your oath- taking to be of effect. So if you're not qualified in the first place, you're not supposed to take the oath. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by ehissi(m): 2:15pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
benji93: Thank you for pointing that out. The relevant section to governorship elections is section 182 (1). Which is a mirror of section 66(1). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Nobody: 2:16pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
IfnobeGod20: Leave it to the master's at Technicalities the Olanipekuns to deal with it. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by Nobody: 2:19pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kukutenla:LoL but it was taking in the presence of a Judge that makes it valid . So it's up to the U.S to inform him that he has lost his citizenship base on his public oath streamed globally, abi if you can't serve someone through a ballif you use other medium ba. |
Re: David Hundeyin Releases Obafemi Hamzat's USA Naturalization Records by XAUBulls: 2:20pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
deji17:Indeed @deji17, You're doing very well here on this thread. As it stands, this David Hundeyin is just a wannabe journalist who will never achieve the stellar heights that the great Edo-born 'Dele Giwa and other folks reached back in the day... the glorious era of succinct guerilla journalism. I decoded a long time ago that this "boy" and his gang exhibit a lot of pure narcissism and nuisance in order to attract attention to themselves. Governor Babajide Sanwo-Olu and Prince Obafemi Hamzat [whose father was an Oba or king, and was also the former Lagos Commissioner of Works when the defunct Lagos Metroline project was conceived during the Lagos State Governor Abdulateef Jakande era from 1979 to 1983] will finish their final 4-year-term of office. Period. All the best. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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