Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Ynix(m): 11:03am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Ade1177:
As for the Candles I don't know about Coloured candles
But Candles have been used from Time before electricity
The white candles are just a symbol for Light
Bath in rivers unscripture?
You mean the one Jesus went to John the baptist inside the water for?
Or where the man laying beside the water waiting for angel to come down inside for him to be healed
But couldn't because he had no helper to carry him there
And was there for many many years till Jesus came and healed him so he doesn't have to wait for any Angel again
Do you people read the bible atall or just listen to your pastors scam you for money while you press phone during church Do you understand that this was before Jesus died and resurrection. Do you also know that you can't build doctrine on just a singular example of what Jesus did. The power is in the name of Jesus not in bathing in river at odd ours like 12 pm or 12 am. Jesus didn't tell his disciples to go and bath people he told them to go and heal people at the mention of his name. Let's even accept that it is for baptismal what is the essence is it for miracles or for establishing the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The main issue that most of the White Garment have originate from lack of adequate study of the Holy Bible, many just read it in KJV and do not have clarity. Also some make conclusion of stories most especially in the Old Testament for creating extra testamental doctrines that tilts towards occultic practices |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by FxMasterz: 11:03am On Jun 25, 2023 |
LeyeWrites: your post reeks of ignorance
But if I lay hands on you...you that still takes Paracetamol for your headaches and fever coming here to rant as usual.
You know nothing about candles nor the deep things of life.
It's not worth it arguing with folks like you. Lol. You're just being emotional. There are so many weird things you guys do that you cannot even explain biblically, not just candies. You're deceiving yourselves. 1 Like |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by IkeGod9891(m): 11:06am On Jun 25, 2023 |
One annoying thing about dis pastors is that they convinced a Christian to there church and calls it conversation of a soul. The only church that has converted people from different religions and beliefs are catholics n Anglican. God bless both. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Dan18(m): 11:07am On Jun 25, 2023 |
But the catholics also burn candles too, right?? By my own understanding, majority of the white garment churches do more of the old testament doctrine that new testament. FxMasterz:
Baba Adeboye didn't mention any church per say. He only warned against burning candles. David Ibiyhome didn't do well at all. He wasn't supposed to talk like that.
Yes, there are godly white garment churches but they're not well known.
Most of those white garment churches have demonic practices. Burning of candies is demonic. Coloured candles are used in occultism to conjure demons. Candles have no place in Christianity. They use brooms and bath in rivers like the Babalawos do. That's purely unscriptural. But ignorant people would keep defending what they know nothing about. 1 Like |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by tuzle(m): 11:07am On Jun 25, 2023 |
otipoju:
You are extremely ignorant.
A. Israel was at war and as long as Moses hands were raised up...the battle would be in their favor, when his hands came down they would start loosing. So to they hand men hold his hands up until they utterly defeated their enemies.
Question: what is the correlation between raining or lowering of a mans hands with winning a battle.
B. The prophet told the king to hit the ground with his stick. The King hit it lightly just 3 times. The prophet admonished him saying had he hit the ground hard like 5 to 7 times, his enemies would have been defeated completely.
What is the correlation between physically hitting a stick on the ground at all with defeating ones enemies in a war.
C. Jesus spat on the ground, made a paste of mud and rubbed it on a blind man's eyes and told him to go wash. The man did as Jesus commanded and his eyes became opened.
Question: what has spit and mud and washing off with water got to do with a opening of a blind eye...especially if Jesus could simply command the eyes to be opened like he told Lazurus to come forth from the tomb or "speak the word " while in a different city and Jarius the Roman's daughter to be restored.
D. What is so powerful about a females menstrual blood that it could drain so much power from Jesus that he noticed immediately even though the large crowd was swirling around him and touching him.
If you can explain these then we might have a conversation about Christianity and faith...until then sit down and keep quiet.
The problem with you Pentecostal novices is that you think you know it all...whereas you and your so called "man made gods " know next to nothing about Spirituality.
What anointing do I need to fall under if your prayer is to God. Leave all that nonsense gimmicks to one side.
You guys blab unintelligible nonsense under the guise of speaking in tounges.
...whereas the real speaking in tounges is to speak in foreign language that its native speakers can understand...but the person speaking did not learn and may not even understand the language.
Is that not what happened on the day of Pentecost as described in the Acts of the Apostles? So where did you guys get your shekerebo booo madraka sunda from ?
Go and sit down somewhere and stop deceiving yourself. are u criticizing all churches here or only pentecostal Churches? |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Didijiji: 11:09am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Annahh: Even those of them that keep dreadlock have marine powers. See your mouth πππ |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by HIPROFILE(m): 11:09am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Ibeoyome was once a staunch member of white gatment church infact that is where his ministry started. Those in portharcourt knows what am saying and the rest of his story while with the garment church so his outburst against the white garment church is coming from somewhere. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by matm: 11:10am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Some of them are good. Among pentecostals some are bad as well. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Ade1177: 11:10am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Ynix:
Do you understand that this was before Jesus died and resurrection. Do you also know that you can't build doctrine on just a singular example of what Jesus did.
The power is in the name of Jesus not in bathing in river at odd ours like 12 pm or 12 am.
Jesus didn't tell his disciples to go and bath people he told them to go and heal people at the mention of his name.
Let's even accept that it is for baptismal what is the essence is it for miracles or for establishing the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
The main issue that most of the White Garment have originate from lack of adequate study of the Holy Bible, many just read it in KJV and do not have clarity. Also some make conclusion of stories most especially in the Old Testament for creating extra testamental doctrines that tilts towards occultic practices You people just base your assumptions on what movie you watch And the very few that does rubbish Which one is bath by 12pm. 2pm That's babalawo baffing If you belive all Celestial church members are stupid including the Professors worshipping there Just leave them alone Have been there atleast was fortunate to attend a good one and there hymns alone blew me away All they do is backed up by the scripture But you see those ones that build church inside Bush very very far away are those that always do rubbish 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Goddyrichie(m): 11:10am On Jun 25, 2023 |
emperor4love: Pastor adebayo once honoured a white garment Church...dis ppl are after there stomach nd tithes,this people just de enjoy life with there family,upon all dis pentecostal preaching of succes,how many dem don make rich with there doings, but come to white garment church nd see doings,ppl way dem made rich nd so much spiritual solution solved π― u said d truth I love white garment church especially cele cuz 60 percent of theyβre members get rich through d church but is bathing of soap π§Ό bathing in d river burning candies is in d bible |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by FxMasterz: 11:10am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Dan18: But the catholics also burn candles too, right?? By my own understanding, majority of the white garment churches do more of the old testament doctrine that new testament.
Was it not the Catholics that bastardized Christianity? Thank God for the reformers. Catholics worship the pagan Queen of Heaven whom the falsely cal Mary. Queen of Heaven is a fallen angel called Ashera. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by LeyeWrites: 11:12am On Jun 25, 2023 |
sslcrypt: You correct out of love. None practice I have seen of this church glorifies Jesus. The rituals are inspired by familiar spirit because none of the apostles carried out any of the practice you see in this church. Burning of candles and the use of objects for interacting with the spiritual world is not of God. Let's call a spade a spade.
The pentecostal churches have be infiltrated by the god mormon, where materialistic things are emphasized more.
But glory be to God because he's merciful and gives everyone the opportunity to repent and change their ways. God is merciful and loving, What do you think the angels are doing in the background when you chant Jesus names and fast? Or you just think the name of Jesus dey go straight gragra and make things happen? Una just funny Y'all will see what will happen to this Ibibio whatever his name is. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Didijiji: 11:12am On Jun 25, 2023 |
I saw a video of David Ibiyeome dancing one native Ikwere and Kalabari song that was played inside his church. Tamunobe Sikima
The composer of the song is the Chairman of a Province in white garment church⦠His former ESOC&S church. He may also know the person
So we can then logically conclude that he was dancing to an occultic song since it was composed in a white garment church.
If you ask him he will say he is dancing to praise God. So is he using a demonic song to praise his real version of God? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Ynix(m): 11:13am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Ade1177:
You people just base your assumptions on what movie you watch
And the very few that does rubbish
Which one is bath by 12pm. 2pm
That's babalawo baffing
If you belive all Celestial church members are stupid including the Professors worshipping there
Just leave them alone
Have been there atleast was fortunate to attend a good one and there hymns alone blew me away
All they do is backed up by the scripture
But you see those ones that build church inside Bush very very far away are those that always do rubbish This makes sense in a way though |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Dybala11(m): 11:13am On Jun 25, 2023 |
TheRealOwner: White garment churches observe a lot of demonic, occultic and pagan practices, most of which are either not found in the Bible, or are taken out of context for reasons best known to them
When they are confronted, all you'll get are emotional laden responses like 'Mind your business ' 'Did we ask you to join?' 'live and let live' etc
They are more of cults and covens than churches of the living God. Have a close friend or spouse from there at your own risk Na Cherubim and Seraphim church I fear pass. Even Cele people sef are not exempted. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by UFOdioh: 11:13am On Jun 25, 2023 |
thorpido: While I may not criticize white garment churches,you see that one called Brotherhood of the Cross and Star..........mbanu. ππππ |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by WhisperedNoise: 11:14am On Jun 25, 2023 |
FxMasterz:
Smiling.
My brother, I don't know you or what you do but if you burn candles and incense, bath people in rivers, conduct midnight rituals and do any of the things Christ Jesus did not command, you need to repent.
I'm not judging you. I can't judge His servants, 'to his master, he standeth or fall.' However, I can be my brother's keeper, and my brother can be my keeper too.
There's no perfect church anywhere. We're all working towards perfection. Our ultimate goal is to please the Master and complete our assignments accordingly to His expectations.
The fact that you've witnessed people who speak in tongues is an indication that tongues have not ceased. They're still as relevant today as they were in the days of the apostles.
The gift of tongues which a man receives as one of the gifts of the Spirit is very much different from the baptism of the Holy Spirit. When you're baptised in the Holy Spirit, you speak in tongues as evidence. This evidence is not the gift of tongues. The gift you received is the gift of the Holy Spirit also called the Promise of the Father. The Gift of the Holy Spirit which comes with the evidence of tongue is different from the gift of Tongues. Infact, the gift of tongues gives the ability to speak several languages, not just one. That's why it's called the Gift of Tongues - Plural. It is often accompanied with the gift of interpretation of tongues. While the Gift of the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost Baptism) is available for every child of God, the gift of tongues is for selected individuals. Not everyone can have the gift of tongues but everyone can have the Gift of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. There's a clear demarcation between the two. In fact, 1Cor. 12:10 says ...to another, diverse kinds of tongues." That is to say as the Spirit distributes according to His will, He gives some gifts to one, and to another He gives the ability to speak diverse tongues. Meanwhile the Gift of the Holy Spirit which the disciples received on the day of Pentecost is for all. Peter said: ...for the promise is into you, and to your children; and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Acts 2:39. Before then, Peter had told the crowd of Elamites, Pathians, Greecians, Egyptians, Medes and all the Nationals of the various countries witnessing the event on that day 'Repent and be baptised, everyone of you... for the remmission of your sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38. Meanwhile, the gift of diverse tongues in 1Corinthians 12:10 is not for everyone. I suppose you can see the difference now.
Research more into what you're calling mindless babblings. You don't have the correct information about what we do, why we do it and how it happens among us. The Pentecostal movement has positively influenced other Orthodox denominations, Baptists, Anglicans, Methodists, etc. Even Catholics are not left out with the Charismatic renewal movement. What do you think they saw after years of criticisms and internal persecutions?
Let's talk briefly about the power of God. When the Presence of God is with you, you're a carrier of the power of God because you can manifest that Presence anywhere. Witches and wizards and all the powers of darkness would avoid you because they know you carry power. The Presence of God in a man's life is the power of God upon His life. The Presence of God in the life of Samson was God's power in his life. When the Spirit of God departed from him, he wanted to go out and do as he usually does, not knowing that "the Spirit of the Lord had departed from him." The moment the Spirit of God leaves you, you're powerless.
The manifestation of power is in accordance to intimacy, and intimacy is developed through personal fellowship. The more you fellowship, the more intimate you become, and the more the intimacy, the greater the manifestation. There's nothing like increasing or decreasing, or the draining of power. There can only be increased intimacy leading to increased manifestation and vice versa. Power moved from Christ to heal the woman the same it moves from Him to heal every. That's why He said, 'Someone touched me.' He didn't say someone polluted me or oh, someone has defiled me. Power moved out of Him every time someone is healed. He knew someone has had a miracle. He was never drained. Never stained. Never polluted. Never corrupted. A woman's menses is not a threat to the supernatural power of God.
I don't know why you have so much disdain for Pentecostals. Every Church denomination knows to be wary of white garment churches especially celestial. It is generally believed that they're diabolical. This position is not a Pentecostal position, it's general. That's why you usually make friends amongst yourselves.
There are many thieving, double faced, corrupt and dubious humans in Celestial churches, and this is well known. I think you should look into that. Those guys who charge money to conduct deliverance for people, or sell holy water, special anointing oil, etc are not Pentecostals. They're charlatans. Be wary of them.
CC: Didijiji My oga, I read all your submissions. You're very sound. The other two guys have a bias against the Pentecostal church and it's quite ignorantl. I am a Pentecostal, however, I have worship several times with a C/S student fellowship. They are biblical and the Spirit of God is enthroned I their parish. They have sound Bible study and they pray in tongues. These guys don't know the deliverance sessions that many pastors do on folks who have been touched by Satan. That's why they're beating their chests. I respect Pastor Ibiyeomie and i love him. While I may not agree wkth his choice of words, I agree with his assertions. Many white garment churches have questionable practices. But a revival has come there, and God is separating the chaff from the wheat. The fellow who is defending use of menstrual blood...his pride and ignorance is disgusting. Claiming her menstruation drained Jesus of power is a very debasing statement. So, that means people who don't menstrurate won't get some answers to prayers bah? Trash. As for using candles, fronds and brooms to pray...totally unscriptural. Totally. Some people have been brainwashed, and I admire your commitment at pointing out the truth to him. You did very well. We can only pray that God will bring down every knowledge that exalts itself against the knowledge of Christ in their lives and minds. Cheers, bro. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Didijiji: 11:14am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Dybala11:
Na Cherubim and Seraphim church I fear pass. Even Cele people sef are not exempted. keep fearing |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Lukuluku69(m): 11:15am On Jun 25, 2023 |
[b] otipoju:
You are extremely ignorant.
A. Israel was at war and as long as Moses hands were raised up...the battle would be in their favor, when his hands came down they would start loosing. So to they hand men hold his hands up until they utterly defeated their enemies.
Question: what is the correlation between raining or lowering of a mans hands with winning a battle.
B. The prophet told the king to hit the ground with his stick. The King hit it lightly just 3 times. The prophet admonished him saying had he hit the ground hard like 5 to 7 times, his enemies would have been defeated completely.
What is the correlation between physically hitting a stick on the ground at all with defeating ones enemies in a war.
C. Jesus spat on the ground, made a paste of mud and rubbed it on a blind man's eyes and told him to go wash. The man did as Jesus commanded and his eyes became opened.
Question: what has spit and mud and washing off with water got to do with a opening of a blind eye...especially if Jesus could simply command the eyes to be opened like he told Lazurus to come forth from the tomb or "speak the word " while in a different city and Jarius the Roman's daughter to be restored.
D. What is so powerful about a females menstrual blood that it could drain so much power from Jesus that he noticed immediately even though the large crowd was swirling around him and touching him.
If you can explain these then we might have a conversation about Christianity and faith...until then sit down and keep quiet.
The problem with you Pentecostal novices is that you think you know it all...whereas you and your so called "man made gods " know next to nothing about Spirituality.
What anointing do I need to fall under if your prayer is to God. Leave all that nonsense gimmicks to one side.
You guys blab unintelligible nonsense under the guise of speaking in tounges.
...whereas the real speaking in tounges is to speak in foreign language that its native speakers can understand...but the person speaking did not learn and may not even understand the language.
Is that not what happened on the day of Pentecost as described in the Acts of the Apostles? So where did you guys get your shekerebo booo madraka sunda from ?
Go and sit down somewhere and stop deceiving yourself. [/b] Thumbs Up. Every point you raised is on point! |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Didijiji: 11:16am On Jun 25, 2023 |
WhisperedNoise:
My oga, I read all your submissions. You're very sound. The other two guys have a bias against the Pentecostal church and it's quite ignorantl. I am a Pentecostal, however, I have worship several times with a C/S student fellowship. They are biblical and the Spirit of God is enthroned I their parish. They have sound Bible study and they pray in tongues.
These guys don't know the deliverance sessions that many pastors do on folks who have been touched by Satan. That's why they're beating their chests. I respect Pastor Ibiyeomie and i love him. While I may not agree wkth his choice of words, I agree with his assertions. Many white garment churches have questionable practices. But a revival has come there, and God is separating the chaff from the wheat.
The fellow who is defending use of menstrual blood...his pride and ignorance is disgusting. Claiming her menstruation drained Jesus of power is a very debasing statement. So, that means people who don't menstrurate won't get some answers to prayers bah? Trash.
As for using candles, fronds and brooms to pray...totally unscriptural. Totally.
Some people have been brainwashed, and I admire your commitment at pointing out the truth to him. You did very well. We can only pray that God will bring down every knowledge that exalts itself against the knowledge of Christ in their lives and minds.
Cheers, bro. so you prefer we use oil, clay and bottled annointing waters that are sold? |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Dybala11(m): 11:18am On Jun 25, 2023 |
otipoju:
Lazarus was dead and buried for 3 days . At that stage he surely did not have any faith to move Jesus to action. Did his sisters display any faith or slightest expectation that Lazarus could be resurrected?
Go back and read your Bible. They absolutely did not express any faith for Lazurus resurrection but Jesus still went ahead to raise Lazarus.So it negates your assertion that it is faith that moves God in to action. God is not ours to command like a robot with a magic wand of faith.
Go and read what "Divine Monergism" means so that you can better understand your error. It is God that rules over the affairs of men. Not men that controls God
Please stop saying with authority what you clearly don't know.
Your faith does not guarantee that you will get what you requested for, your lack of faith does not nullify you from receiving from God. If not God will cease to be God. His answers to prayer of faith can be Yes, No, Later and Never. Whatever he decides is entirely up to him
Paul asked persistently with plenty of faith to be healed but was not healed of his ailment simply because God said No!
Why did Paul's faith not compel God to action to heal him as requested.
You and the Pastors that teach you are are novices of spiritual matters. Approach God with humility and not stupid pride and never ever try to put God in a box of your own imagination.
I disagree with one of your assertions though, your lack of faith can prevent you from receiving something from God even when God wants to give you the thing. Check the book of James chapter 1 vs 6-8. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Didijiji: 11:21am On Jun 25, 2023 |
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Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by moneyissweet(m): 11:23am On Jun 25, 2023 |
No church is better than cele.
Since I know cele, I am not afraid any thing or any spiritual battle again 1 Like |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by FxMasterz: 11:23am On Jun 25, 2023 |
WhisperedNoise:
My oga, I read all your submissions. You're very sound. The other two guys have a bias against the Pentecostal church and it's quite ignorantl. I am a Pentecostal, however, I have worship several times with a C/S student fellowship. They are biblical and the Spirit of God is enthroned I their parish. They have sound Bible study and they pray in tongues.
These guys don't know the deliverance sessions that many pastors do on folks who have been touched by Satan. That's why they're beating their chests. I respect Pastor Ibiyeomie and i love him. While I may not agree wkth his choice of words, I agree with his assertions. Many white garment churches have questionable practices. But a revival has come there, and God is separating the chaff from the wheat.
The fellow who is defending use of menstrual blood...his pride and ignorance is disgusting. Claiming her menstruation drained Jesus of power is a very debasing statement. So, that means people who don't menstrurate won't get some answers to prayers bah? Trash.
As for using candles, fronds and brooms to pray...totally unscriptural. Totally.
Some people have been brainwashed, and I admire your commitment at pointing out the truth to him. You did very well. We can only pray that God will bring down every knowledge that exalts itself against the knowledge of Christ in their lives and minds.
Cheers, bro. Amen bro. Thanks so much for the prayers. I'm so excited that you found a biblical white garment student church. I'm overjoyed by your assertion that a revival is already flaming among them and God is separating the shaft from the wheats. That's good news. The Almighty God who has started the work would finish it in righteousness in Jesus name. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Dan18(m): 11:23am On Jun 25, 2023 |
FxMasterz:
Was it not the Catholics that bastardized Christianity? Thank God for the reformers. Catholics worship the pagan Queen of Heaven whom the falsely cal Mary. Queen of Heaven is a fallen angel called Ashera. Its always funny to me, when I see someone is catholic condemn the doctrine of some white garment church. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Dybala11(m): 11:30am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Didijiji: keep fearing
It's because of what I saw with my own eyes and not just because of stories o. |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Nauttyprof(m): 11:31am On Jun 25, 2023 |
@OP you are a worse and terrible Christian judging from your post and you are not any different from the pastor. Check your post and tell me how different are you from the pastor.
This is the big problem we have in Christendom. When the matter favours us, it is good but when it is against us, it is bad and we begin to do just as exactly as what we preach against.
If the message by the pastor was hurting, why not look inward also and see how to address some issues raised in the message. Not that the Pastor was also justified to have used the word 'hate' but the white garment churches should also look inward to address some of the issues. Yes, there are many good white garment churches but it does not in anyway mean that the bad ones are not tarnishing the image of these churches.
The OP was even bent on listing fraud and yahoo nonsense in Pentecostal churches without even thinking twice that many of these yahoo guys visit these white garment churches for more scam business. Don't you see them use the local sponges and white soaps given to them by the white garment church? Are you also saying no fraudsters in the white garment churches too?
No Church is a saint and the white garment churches are not any better too. Now, they are acting the victim but it is a general knowledge that the white garment churches see themselves as the only true church recognized by God and even go to the extent of calling other 'Amen' church. Let the OP dispute this with me. Is this not also discrimination from white garment churches? Their prophets or prophetesses will hiss at the mention of pentecostal church or any other church at that. With acts like they are the last boat and the true boat to heaven. Please, dispute this if I am wrong. We want the unification of the body of Christ and yet we are not practicing what we want.
Till we begin to focus on the Bible and get it right all churches will operate the way they like.
White garment churches are not any better. The other churches are not also exempted from this mess in the name of spirituality. 1 Like |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Didijiji: 11:32am On Jun 25, 2023 |
Dybala11:
It's because of what I saw with my own eyes and not just because of stories o. If itβs by what you saw then you have a true story |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Glowqueen3(f): 11:32am On Jun 25, 2023 |
FxMasterz:
I can see that you're already deep in white garment practices. You're probably a strong leader there. Nothing I tell you would move you because your belief in the things you do is deeply entrenched.
Now, let me answer your Questions.
1. The raised hands of Moses was what God intended to use at that point in time to bring victory to Israel. God wanted him in one way or the other to participate in that battle and make the Israelites know for certain that their swords was not responsible for their victory.
Psalm 44:3
For they got not the land in possession by their own sword, neither did their own arm save them: but thy right hand, and thine arm, and the light of thy countenance, because thou hadst a favour unto them."
The message was very clear. Moses also got to understand that he is not self-sufficient. Take note of the fact that it was just a one-time occurrence. It never happened again. They didn't make it a rule for regular war practice. It was simply a message and it remained so. Do not compare this event with regular practices of the white garment churches.
2. When Elisha told the king Jehoash to hit the ground with his arrows in 2kings 13, remember that in verse 16, the prophet put his hands on the king's hands. This is the important part of that passage because the prophet was about to give the king a prophetic prayer that he was not worthy of. The king like his father was not serving God but he wanted to benefit from God. Rather than issue him a word of prophesy for Victory, the prophet can only offer up prophetic prayers and he must use his own hands to decide his own fate. That's exactly what happened. Any victory the king got was not because he was worthy but because God decided to overlook his deeds and have respect to the prophet and his anointing. However, by striking the ground just 3 times, he sealed his own fate. This does not justify anything that white garment churches do.
3. Jesus spitting on the ground was as He was directed to do at that particular moment for that particular man. The man was born blind. Tradition has it that he did not even have eyes. As in there were no eyes in those sockets. It was all skin covering that part of his face. The miracle in that John 10 was a special miracle. Jesus was literally creating new eyes in order to give sight to that man. What He did there was as instructed by the Holy Spirit. Remember He said, "I can of my own self do nothing." The actions were just for that particular occasion. The disciples who took up the ministry after Christ didn't make anything of it. Their activities are fully recorded in the book of Acts. They never had to indulge in any of those things you guys do to cast out devils, heal the sick, make the lame to walk or even raise the dead. The church had existed for almost 2,000yrs before white garment churches came into being. Those practices of yours never existed in christiendom. What do you think you know better than the Apostles?
Jesus is our ultimate example, and the Bible is our guide. Do it the way they did it. You would have the same results they had. It's just as simple as that. Why burn candles or wash anyone's head in rivers? Are you herbalists?
4. The blood flow from the woman with the issue of blood was not responsible for drawing power from the Lord Jesus. It was her faith. Through her faith, power was released from the Lord for her healing, and Christ knew that power got out of Him. Her menstrual blood didn't defile Jesus or spoil His anointing. I'm aware that you guys have certain restrictions for women during their mensural periods. Like a herbalist, you think a touch from them would spoil things. It was not so with Christ. He was glad the woman touched Him. He approved of the touch and said "daughter, be not afraid, your faith has made you whole." If mensuration does not constitute a pollution to the Apostles of Christ (Acts 15}, why should it matter to any part of the body of Christ? Except that part has another Lord which is not Jesus.
See, the Bible is plain and straight forward. Trying to use unrelated scriptures to justify weird practices does not bring you into any good standing before God.
Even Paul who brought the gospel to us gentiles said [/b]be ye my imitators as I am of Christ Jesus.[/b] 1Cor. 11;1-2 (Paraphrased).
Tell me who you're imitating with your strange practices because it's obviously not the Lord Jesus, neither Paul nor any of the Apostles of the Lamb. You are really versed and learned in the word of God hence your honest and truthful response,May your knowledge never run dry.The Lord is your strength. 2 Likes |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by Iseoluwani: 11:32am On Jun 25, 2023 |
paxonel: My question about white garments is, what are the significance of the white garments and walking bare foot on streets?
And, is it really true that white garment churches put people's names in a bottle of ogogoro and cause them to behave drunk according to what that pastor said? Some demonic ones do such but not the good one. My mother died as MOTHER CELESTIAL. But I am not, Cele people will understand. I never attend her church. But I never castigated them. Their hymns are wonderful but some people have perpetrated evil with the name of the church 2ndly this church cele and even cerubium have refused to grow or rather majority of the church have refused to grow spiritually in their teaching. Look at PROPHET Israel oladele GENESIS TEACHING, you will agree with me that his teaching are different most of the celestial prphet. Read what is in the bible and say it verbatim. You see pentecostal pastors , their msgs how redefined and loaded. The issue of heirachy has caused a lot of disjointed issues in the church. And not only cele or cerubium SOME CHURCHES TOO . They need to grow up. 2 Likes |
Re: The Hate On White Garment Churches by gotnel: 11:34am On Jun 25, 2023 |
FxMasterz:
Baba Adeboye didn't mention any church per say. He only warned against burning candles. David Ibiyhome didn't do well at all. He wasn't supposed to talk like that.
Yes, there are godly white garment churches but they're not well known.
Most of those white garment churches have demonic practices. Burning of candies is demonic. Coloured candles are used in occultism to conjure demons. Candles have no place in Christianity. They use brooms and bath in rivers like the Babalawos do. That's purely unscriptural. But ignorant people would keep defending what they know nothing about. We are really in end time. Pentecostal Churches in Nigeria are merely business empires. I can proof this with much evidence . Looking around with all sense, you will know that Pentecostal Churches are more of business than worship. They are just trading on the name of Jesus Christ and gospel. |