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Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by Parachoco: 4:24pm On Jun 28, 2023
hush15:


Then don't promise what you don't have to give.
There was a glitch
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by hush15: 4:28pm On Jun 28, 2023
Parachoco:
There was a glitch

Elections that cost over 300 billion, only to have a glitch!!!

The only reason they was a glitch as you support is because they knew where they were going. They didn't mean to have any free or fair process. It's that plain and simple.
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by Parachoco: 4:31pm On Jun 28, 2023
hush15:


Elections that cost over 300 billion, only to have a glitch!!!

The only reason they was a glitch as you support is because they knew where they were going. They didn't mean to have any free or fair process. It's that plain and simple.
Even Peter Obi didn't claim the election was rigged against him.

He has all the results from each of the polling units with him
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by hush15: 4:36pm On Jun 28, 2023
Parachoco:
Even Peter Obi didn't claim the election was rigged against him.

He has all the results from each of the polling units with him

Results that INEC chairman had to allow a glitch so as to manipulate thru his collation centers nationwide.
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by Parachoco: 4:39pm On Jun 28, 2023
hush15:


Results that INEC chairman had to allow a glitch so as to manipulate thru his collation centers nationwide.
But Pandora didn't claim the results were manipulated

He had the chance to tell the Tribunal what you're saying, but you're wrong, that's why he couldn't tell them your lies
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by hush15: 4:42pm On Jun 28, 2023
Parachoco:
But Pandora didn't claim the results were manipulated

He had the chance to tell the Tribunal what you're saying, but you're wrong, that's why he couldn't tell them your lies

Are you sure ? I get ur sarcasm but I don't expect much from those that benefit from manipulative and compromised process and systems.
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by Parachoco: 4:44pm On Jun 28, 2023
hush15:


Are you sure ? I get ur sarcasm but I don't expect much from those that benefit from manipulative and compromised process and systems.


Show me an evidence he told the tribunal the results were change

Peter Obi Chief Witness who's also a LP member never claim the results were manipulated

But here you're spilling lies

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Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by hush15: 4:47pm On Jun 28, 2023
Parachoco:
Show me an evidence he told the tribunal the results were change

Peter Obi Chief Witness who's also a LP member never claim the results were manipulated

But here you're spilling lies

Oga, go Google. Stop disturbing me. If you are not happy with the evidence presented in court, GO TO COURT AGAIN...
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by Parachoco: 4:47pm On Jun 28, 2023
hush15:


Oga, go Google. Stop disturbing me. If you are not happy with the evidence presented in court, GO TO COURT AGAIN...
You have nothing to say

Well, you can move along

This conversation is above your level
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by optimusprime2(m): 5:38pm On Jun 28, 2023
As at today, The FCT results on IREV have glitched grin grin grin APC have been Yakubood to 23%

Naija Naija
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by Parachoco: 7:15pm On Jun 28, 2023
hush15:


Oga, go Google. Stop disturbing me. If you are not happy with the evidence presented in court, GO TO COURT AGAIN...
Pandora will never become the President Of The Federal Republic Of Nigeria
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by hush15: 12:37am On Jun 29, 2023
Parachoco:
Pandora will never become the President Of The Federal Republic Of Nigeria


Be deceiving urself
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by Gajagojo: 10:19am On Jun 29, 2023
rummmy:
illegality can only stand in your family.

Mynd44
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by IfnobeGod20(m): 10:41am On Jun 29, 2023
Osilama1:
and yet LP couldn't score up to 15 percent of nass Seats... Then LP couldn't win more than Abia State for gorvenor... But suddenly obi should be president over national Party candidate of APC PDP... Obidients are just deluded... Ina go still wail and curse in 2027 when LP comes Third then wail in 2031 when LP comes Third again...
Some of you have brain but refused to apply it. Why comparing localized election with national election. Presidential election is a national game with different interest abounds but governorship election is localized and interest is limited. Taking for example, there are some states that are won by APC at the presidential election, that were later won by PDP at the gubernatorial election. See way many states won by LP but later won by either APC or PDP. Only few states do party games while the rest have divergent views on presidential election.
You heard what Aisha Yesufu said concerning Enugu Guber election. She plainly said, she will prefer the APGA candidate to win the election because she doesn't do party. It's you people that carry party in your head like a poor boy selling gala.
Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by IfnobeGod20(m): 10:55am On Jun 29, 2023
Parachoco:
But Pandora didn't claim the results were manipulated

He had the chance to tell the Tribunal what you're saying, but you're wrong, that's why he couldn't tell them your lies
I'd there anyone among the presidential candidate, that is bearing Pandora? You people would never have discourse intelligently but prefer to throw bile about and denigrate always. By the time same people return in the same measure, you will start shouting that Obidients are abusive but you will never say, you started it.

Now, let me behave that unsolicited nickname you gave up there I didn't see it. Here below is the cross examination of the LP witness where he alluded that the results on EC8A weren't the same with what was uploaded. I hope after reading the cross examination, you will stop confusing people that LP didn't claim manipulation of results.

"[ Prof. Eric is reminded that he is still on oath ]

1st Respondent [INEC] Cross-examination :

[N:B
Q=Questions the first respondent cross examiner is asking the witness.
A= Answer of the witness]

Q. Where were you on election Day?

A. I went to vote

Q. You voted and it went on smoothly?
A. Yes

Q. You were commissioned to produce this report by the LP?

A. I was requested to produce the report.


Q. You were paid for it?

A. Nobody paid me

Q. You acted as a patriotic Nigerian?

A. I'm a patriotic Nigerian, yes.

Q. As a disinterested party?

A. Yes

Q. Going by the terms of reference mentioned in Para3 of your WSO, primary source of data was the IREV Portal.

A. Yes

Q. In your witness statement, you made reference to Forms EC8As as well as results uploaded on the IREV Portal, I assume you were referring to the same thing?

A. Not exactly

Q. What did you mean?

A. It's because they are different

Q. What's the difference?

A. Forms EC8A is different from what's uploaded.

Q. The Form EC8A uploaded on the portal is the only document you could see on the portal?

A. Not really

The Court:
what is not really?that's not a definite answer

A. His questions did not require a definite Answer.

[ The initial question is repeated by the first respondent cross examiner to the witness again]

A. No


Q. What else can you see ?

A. There were blurred images and some that were not related to the analysis done. For instance, results of Senate replaced for House of Reps.

Q. When you refer to Blurred images of Forms EC8A, you did not mean the physical copies could be blurred?

A. I didn't see physical copies.

Q. In all your review, you did not see anything on the portal that suggests there is an electronic collation system?

A. The IREV portal is an electronic collation system

Q. Are you suggesting to the court that the portal is capable of collating and tabulating results?


A. It's not capable of doing that.

Q. In Appendix E, you made reference to Labour Party agent Forms EC8As

A. Yes

Q. Did you attach them to your report?

A. It has been tendered to the court. I did not.

Q. You're not an election expert ?

A. It depends On what you mean by election expert.

Q. I suggest to you that there was no way you undertook the task in Para3(c) of your Witness Statement, not being an expert.

A. If I understand you clearly, the electoral act and guidelines for conduct of election requires online...

[ The first respondent [INEC] cross examiner then interrupted him ]

Q. Just answer the question.
Are you an election expert, can you determine compliance?

A. I can determine compliance.

Q. Look at Exhibit PCB1 series, for Rivers State. [He's shown the report he tendered that was marked as Exhibit].
What LGA is that?

[ The court officials are trying to get the document in question which have been marked, looks like they didn't bring it into the courtroom earlier ]

Q. Confirm to the court when you concluded your assignment.

A. 19th of March

Q. Back to Exhibit PCB2.
Can you read out to LGA ?

A. Degema

Q. In Ward 7, the Polling Unit you see is?

A. 002

Q. Accredited Voters is 40 correct?

A. Yes

Q. Number of voters 40 correct?

A. Yes

Q. To be able to do arithmetic, are you suggesting that?

A. youre correct, (any level of mathematical knowledge)

Q. Your choice of Rivers and benue, was it as a result of random pick not informed by any theory?

A. Random pick.

Q. You're aware that at the last presidential election PDP, APC and LP all won a number of states in terms of majority of votes.

A. My job have nothing to do with who win and who did not win.

Q. Did you know?

A. What you heard may not be correct.

Q. Confirm you did not hear anything about the evential outcome of the election.

A. I heard something

Q. Who won the election based on what INEC announced?

Q. Who won in benue state based on what INEC declared?

[Witness is dragging in answering the question ]

Q. Do you now recall which party won in Rivers and benue?

A. I can't say for now.

Q. Those two states were won by APC is that correct?

A. I told you can't say for now.

Q. In your report, there's an element of statistics involved.

A. I dealt on exact data.

Q. What you did was to sample and extrapolate ?

A. Sampling have to do with forecasting, I used exact data

Q. How many polling units are there in Rivers State?
A. I don't have everything by heart.

Q. How about benue state?

A. Same answer my Lord.

Q. The total number of polling units in Rivers and benue does not amount to 18,000 blurred results you want the court to cancel.

A. Since I do not know the number of polling unit, how do I know? They will not add up.

Q. Admonition for statistics: Researchers should be aware of statistical error and sampling error arising from random sampling and bias.

A. I'm not a statiscian. The data is an exact data, there's no randomness in it.

Q. So your choice of two states was not a random choice?

A. The data is an exact data but when it comes to selection of sample space, the selection is done randomly

The Court:
you said you did random sampling?

A. No, the choice of states is random but the sampling data is exact.


Q. Your interest in this exercise is for educational research.

A. Yes, not a paid job

Q. Will you teach your students based on this and states APC won ?

A. It has not got to the point of engaging my students.

Q. If you have opportunity to do research on other states, you'll get different results?

A. Each state will come up with its own results.

Q. In your report, you analyzed Forms EC8As on the IREV, nowhere did you allude to what was on EC8Bs and EC8Cs
A. Once it's wrong at the polling unit level, it will be wrong up, so the most important form to analyze is Form EC8A

[ That's all for the cross examination of the witness by the 4th respondent ]

[ There's no questions in re-examination.
Ikwueto SAN now asked that the witness be discharged.
The court discharges him from the witness box".

Note, if you reply me rudely I won't dignify you with reply, this I promise you because I don't dwell in abuse.

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Re: 2023: It Is Unfair To Judge Us Based On Glitch In The Results Upload - INEC by Geometrix(m): 4:50pm On Jun 29, 2023
From this witness statement, it's obvious LP has the polling both results. Interesting times ahead
quote author=IfnobeGod20 post=124102673]
I'd there anyone among the presidential candidate, that is bearing Pandora? You people would never have discourse intelligently but prefer to throw bile about and denigrate always. By the time same people return in the same measure, you will start shouting that Obidients are abusive but you will never say, you started it.

Now, let me behave that unsolicited nickname you gave up there I didn't see it. Here below is the cross examination of the LP witness where he alluded that the results on EC8A weren't the same with what was uploaded. I hope after reading the cross examination, you will stop confusing people that LP didn't claim manipulation of results.

"[ Prof. Eric is reminded that he is still on oath ]

1st Respondent [INEC] Cross-examination :

[N:B
Q=Questions the first respondent cross examiner is asking the witness.
A= Answer of the witness]

Q. Where were you on election Day?

A. I went to vote

Q. You voted and it went on smoothly?
A. Yes

Q. You were commissioned to produce this report by the LP?

A. I was requested to produce the report.


Q. You were paid for it?

A. Nobody paid me

Q. You acted as a patriotic Nigerian?

A. I'm a patriotic Nigerian, yes.

Q. As a disinterested party?

A. Yes

Q. Going by the terms of reference mentioned in Para3 of your WSO, primary source of data was the IREV Portal.

A. Yes

Q. In your witness statement, you made reference to Forms EC8As as well as results uploaded on the IREV Portal, I assume you were referring to the same thing?

A. Not exactly

Q. What did you mean?

A. It's because they are different

Q. What's the difference?

A. Forms EC8A is different from what's uploaded.

Q. The Form EC8A uploaded on the portal is the only document you could see on the portal?

A. Not really

The Court:
what is not really?that's not a definite answer

A. His questions did not require a definite Answer.

[ The initial question is repeated by the first respondent cross examiner to the witness again]

A. No


Q. What else can you see ?

A. There were blurred images and some that were not related to the analysis done. For instance, results of Senate replaced for House of Reps.

Q. When you refer to Blurred images of Forms EC8A, you did not mean the physical copies could be blurred?

A. I didn't see physical copies.

Q. In all your review, you did not see anything on the portal that suggests there is an electronic collation system?

A. The IREV portal is an electronic collation system

Q. Are you suggesting to the court that the portal is capable of collating and tabulating results?


A. It's not capable of doing that.

Q. In Appendix E, you made reference to Labour Party agent Forms EC8As

A. Yes

Q. Did you attach them to your report?

A. It has been tendered to the court. I did not.

Q. You're not an election expert ?

A. It depends On what you mean by election expert.

Q. I suggest to you that there was no way you undertook the task in Para3(c) of your Witness Statement, not being an expert.

A. If I understand you clearly, the electoral act and guidelines for conduct of election requires online...

[ The first respondent [INEC] cross examiner then interrupted him ]

Q. Just answer the question.
Are you an election expert, can you determine compliance?

A. I can determine compliance.

Q. Look at Exhibit PCB1 series, for Rivers State. [He's shown the report he tendered that was marked as Exhibit].
What LGA is that?

[ The court officials are trying to get the document in question which have been marked, looks like they didn't bring it into the courtroom earlier ]

Q. Confirm to the court when you concluded your assignment.

A. 19th of March

Q. Back to Exhibit PCB2.
Can you read out to LGA ?

A. Degema

Q. In Ward 7, the Polling Unit you see is?

A. 002

Q. Accredited Voters is 40 correct?

A. Yes

Q. Number of voters 40 correct?

A. Yes

Q. To be able to do arithmetic, are you suggesting that?

A. youre correct, (any level of mathematical knowledge)

Q. Your choice of Rivers and benue, was it as a result of random pick not informed by any theory?

A. Random pick.

Q. You're aware that at the last presidential election PDP, APC and LP all won a number of states in terms of majority of votes.

A. My job have nothing to do with who win and who did not win.

Q. Did you know?

A. What you heard may not be correct.

Q. Confirm you did not hear anything about the evential outcome of the election.

A. I heard something

Q. Who won the election based on what INEC announced?

Q. Who won in benue state based on what INEC declared?

[Witness is dragging in answering the question ]

Q. Do you now recall which party won in Rivers and benue?

A. I can't say for now.

Q. Those two states were won by APC is that correct?

A. I told you can't say for now.

Q. In your report, there's an element of statistics involved.

A. I dealt on exact data.

Q. What you did was to sample and extrapolate ?

A. Sampling have to do with forecasting, I used exact data

Q. How many polling units are there in Rivers State?
A. I don't have everything by heart.

Q. How about benue state?

A. Same answer my Lord.

Q. The total number of polling units in Rivers and benue does not amount to 18,000 blurred results you want the court to cancel.

A. Since I do not know the number of polling unit, how do I know? They will not add up.

Q. Admonition for statistics: Researchers should be aware of statistical error and sampling error arising from random sampling and bias.

A. I'm not a statiscian. The data is an exact data, there's no randomness in it.

Q. So your choice of two states was not a random choice?

A. The data is an exact data but when it comes to selection of sample space, the selection is done randomly

The Court:
you said you did random sampling?

A. No, the choice of states is random but the sampling data is exact.


Q. Your interest in this exercise is for educational research.

A. Yes, not a paid job

Q. Will you teach your students based on this and states APC won ?

A. It has not got to the point of engaging my students.

Q. If you have opportunity to do research on other states, you'll get different results?

A. Each state will come up with its own results.

Q. In your report, you analyzed Forms EC8As on the IREV, nowhere did you allude to what was on EC8Bs and EC8Cs
A. Once it's wrong at the polling unit level, it will be wrong up, so the most important form to analyze is Form EC8A

[ That's all for the cross examination of the witness by the 4th respondent ]

[ There's no questions in re-examination.
Ikwueto SAN now asked that the witness be discharged.
The court discharges him from the witness box".

Note, if you reply me rudely I won't dignify you with reply, this I promise you because I don't dwell in abuse.[/quote]

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