mostob:

I think it has to do with Partey's form though. Baba was playing rubbish after that Westham match. Also, could be due to tactic. Jorginho understands the use of space better.

I even doubt even with the form he would have benched Partey same way I doubt he'll bench Saka if same thing happens.

The thing is that he likes Jorg(it's not a secret) so it was understandable he does such.
Even if Saka go bad form like Partey last season, I doubt he would have benched him for Nelson or anybody

Spy360:

Here you go.

Lol.. lol... Lol.

Anybody wey follow this post knows that's not what you meant in this receipt but for the sake of not prolongation this matter, I accept

mostob:
With the current squad, the only unbenchable players are Gabby, Saka and Rammy. I like that sha.

Lol, for now, I agree.

Make any worthy deputy come, wey Arteta like, all these players go turn untouchable!

Partey don teach me lesson

BlueRayDick:


Even if white was put in to replace Saliba we would've slumped. There was nothing spectacular about White's first season at Arsenal to suggest he would've offered anything close to what Saliba offered us.

Nahh.. I doubt this.

Tomi injury scattered everything except Arteta just wan stubborn. If Tomi didn't have an injury ending season, White would have effectively replaced Saliba without much drop in quality while Tomi would have played RB.

If this have happened, I doubt we would have even capitulated against Liverpool sef

Jodera:
Nahh.. I doubt this.

Tomi injury scattered everything except Arteta just wan stubborn. If Tomi didn't have an injury ending season, White would have effectively replaced Saliba without much drop in quality while Tomi would have played RB.

If this have happened, I doubt we would have even capitulated against Liverpool sef

I watched White played in his first season at RCB, he's not who u are portraying him to be here.

BlueRayDick:


I watched White played in his first season at RCB, he's not who u are portraying him to be here.

White and Gabriel was good in the first season. Saliba was better than him as an Rcb but White was no Average at all.

The only Reason we capitulated was because of Tomi injury which didn't make White drift to Rcb. White is no slouch passing out from the back, under pressure or evading press In Rcb position. Neither is he hardly beaten aerially or physically (even one on one contest). Most of these things Holding lacked them especially that passing out from the back or transitioning.

Maybe we've forgotten how White first season was due to Saliba

Jodera:
White and Gabriel was good in the first season. Saliba was better than him as an Rcb but White was no Average at all.

The only Reason we capitulated was because of Tomi injury which didn't make White drift to Rcb. White is no slouch passing out from the back, under pressure or evading press In Rcb position. Neither is he hardly beaten aerially or physically (even one on one contest). Most of these things Holding lacked them especially that passing out from the back or transitioning.

Maybe we've forgotten how White first season was due to Saliba

I remember perfectly well how his first season was. And yes white gets beaten aerially. The edge white has over holding is the ability to play from the back.

At a point holding was better than what he displayed last season, he got March rusty and unfortunately had to start playing at a time we were under immense pressure to perform.

If I don't remember anything I remember how Iamoyindamola used to cuss at white when he fumbles in his first season.

Jodera I bring u receipts from White's first season with us as RCB.

I wasn't capping when I said I remember these things.

By the way, Roland17 was proven right that Saliba better pass White Las Las

BlueRayDick:


I remember perfectly well how his first season was. And yes white gets beaten aerially. The edge white has over holding is the ability to play from the back.

At a point holding was better than what he displayed last season, he got March rusty and unfortunately had to start playing at a time we were under immense pressure to perform.

If I don't remember anything I remember how Iamoyindamola used to cuss at white when he fumbles in his first season.

White is a 50m CB na if he fumble he deserves the stick

iamoyindamola:

White is a 50m CB na if he fumble he deserves the stick

Sure. The time we buy am sef he no worth that amount, na our desperation make dem just squeeze the money commot our pocket. Brighton na wicked team sha

BlueRayDick:


Sure. The time we buy am sef he no worth that amount, na our desperation make dem just squeeze the money commot our pocket. Brighton na wicked team sha

Especially when saliba was balling in Ligue 1
Honestly Saliba bought some level of calmness to our defence it’s no coincidence we started drinking goals after he got injured

BlueRayDick:


I remember perfectly well how his first season was. And yes white gets beaten aerially. The edge white has over holding is the ability to play from the back.

At a point holding was better than what he displayed last season, he got March rusty and unfortunately had to start playing at a time we were under immense pressure to perform.

If I don't remember anything I remember how Iamoyindamola used to cuss at white when he fumbles in his first season.

Hmmm... same White?

I'm surprised to see say White was average in his first season as Rcb sha

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Jodera:
Hmmm... same White?

I'm surprised to see say White was average in his first season as Rcb sha

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Yes he was
Saliba is the game changer in our defense

BlueRayDick:
Jodera I bring u receipts from White's first season with us as RCB.

I wasn't capping when I said I remember these things.

By the way, Roland17 was proven right that Saliba better pass White Las Las

Lol, this was just his first few months na.
Seeing as he wasn't a popular signing and most of us wanted attackers, he signing (alongside Ramsdale) was met with heavy criticism, coupled with the fact that we collect for our first 3 matches scoring zero goals.

Maybe I go like see receipts deep into the season especially November upwards if you don't mind(cos that's the time arsenal and Arteta really stable)

Jodera:
Hmmm... same White?

I'm surprised to see say White was average in his first season as Rcb sha

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White was average honestly. Do u know how many times I had to defend him and Gabriel's partnership when the Defence vs Attack wins u league argument came up?

I even made myself enemies in the process.

iamoyindamola:

Yes he was
Saliba is the game changer in our defense

Okay...

Though I wouldn't want us to compare him with Saliba sha. Just only his performance during his first season

Jodera:
Lol, this was just his first few months na.
Seeing as he wasn't a popular signing and most of us wanted attackers, he signing (alongside Ramsdale) was met with heavy criticism, coupled with the fact that we collect for our first 3 matches scoring zero goals.

Maybe I go like see receipts deep into the season especially November upwards if you don't mind(cos that's the time arsenal and Arteta really stable)

I no get strength to take dig every of those discussions we had on the defence headed by White and Gabriel. But I remember I too collect while defending them.

BlueRayDick:


White was average honestly. Do u know how many times I had to defend him and Gabriel's partnership when the Defence vs Attack wins u league argument came up?

I even made myself enemies in the process.

Lol... Haba na.

Defence Vs Attack was hot during Gabu first season na (,then na Gabu and Luiz). Aside beginning of season (when we bought White and Ramadale), Defence Vs Attack died or was reduced to the barest minimum last season

Jodera:
Lol... Haba na.

Defence Vs Attack was hot during Gabu first season na (,then na Gabu and Luiz). Aside beginning of season (when we bought White and Ramadale), Defence Vs Attack died or was reduced to the barest minimum last season

Do u want me to show receipt of where Kokane still called me out when the partnership of white and Gabriel drank 22 goals within few matches?

BlueRayDick:


I no get strength to take dig every of those discussions we had on the defence headed by White and Gabriel. But I remember I too collect while defending them.

Lol...
No problems.

Tbh, I really counted White as one of our top players sha.

Come to think of it, isn't White voted arsenal's third best player of the season after Saka and Odegaard?

I go check for that poll lemme confirm

BlueRayDick:


Do u want me to show receipt of where Kokane still called me out when the partnership of white and Gabriel drank 22 goals within few matches?

Anybody aside Kokane abeg.

Kokane wey still cast arsenal's defence and Gabriel this past season even when we're on a good run?

BlueRayDick:


We are talking of a white who was bought for 50 million and didn't live up to expectations until Arteta decided to deploy him to RB. U are sure not comparing him with the Saliba we watched last season who made most sports pundits and news organizations team of the season.

Na wa o

You're twisting this thing man. White didn't live up to expectations? Remind me how we bottled top four 2 seasons ago. He was as important as Saliba as at then. You don't need to pull down White.

Saliba is ahead of White, everybody knows that. In a case where Saliba needs a good rest due to fatigue or whatever, White is capable of filling in for him. Now Can you say the same about Kiwior, Turner and Nelson?

mostob:
Na wa o

You're twisting this thing man. White didn't live up to expectations? Remind me how we bottled top four 2 seasons ago. He was as important as Saliba as at then. You don't need to pull down White.

Saliba is ahead of White, everybody knows that. In a case where Saliba needs a good rest due to fatigue or whatever, White is capable of filling in for him. Now Can you say the same about Kiwior, Turner and Nelson?

This same white? Humour me bro

Jodera:
Anybody aside Kokane abeg.

Kokane wey still cast arsenal's defence and Gabriel this past season even when we're on a good run?

Sometimes I feel Kokane is somewhere counting the number of goals we concede, the moment it exceeds what we had during the time of David Luiz and brothers ; he will just burst onto the scene with his "I told u so" post🤣

BlueRayDick:


Sometimes I feel Kokane is somewhere counting the number of goals we concede, the moment it exceeds what we had during the time of David Luiz and brothers ; he will just burst onto the scene with his "I told u so" post🤣

Jodera:
Okay...

Though I wouldn't want us to compare him with Saliba sha. Just only his performance during his first season

Remember saliba replaced him

iamoyindamola:

Remember saliba replaced him

Lol... It still doesn't mean anything.

White replaced Tomi the very next season, does that mean Tomi was average 21/22 season?

BlueRayDick:


This same white? Humour me bro

in the shot u digged up, mos.. wasn't talking about white alone but rammy too, now uncle raydick do you think rammy was average too in his first season?. White wasn't as bad as you guys are trying to paint him during his first season , yes his first two matches was shiit, especially his first match but then so was the whole team. Arsenal fans didn't like the signing of both white and ramsdale even before the officially kicked a ball as arsenal players just because of their ex clubs and also money involved in their deals which many including I myself thought was too high for them. He came under heavy attacks both from pundits and fans during his early days but gradually grew into the team. I remember going from "nawah for dis Ben white" to "fine play there better baller" during his first season... But then what do I know......

BlueRayDick:


U are not asking the right question. I've already stated it that all 4 of them are as important as each other. None of their backups can give us what they can give us on the pitch.

So the moment u bring in Nelson for Saka u know it's a downgrade, the moment u bring in Turner it's a downgrade to Ramsadale, Holding or White is a downgrade to Saliba and Kiwior is a downgrade to Gabriel.

NB: All of this is based on their form last season which was our best season in a very long time.

Thank you. But downgrade pass downgrade. I think the reason you're reacting like this is because Saliba has been so good that many of us forgot how good White can be.

Jodera:
Lol, for now, I agree.

Make any worthy deputy come, wey Arteta like, all these players go turn untouchable!

Partey don teach me lesson

He needs to start trusting these guys before Dem go rust. I think players like Kiwior, Nelson, and the new signings should be heavily involved in pre season.

germaphobe:
in the shot u digged up, mos.. wasn't talking about white alone but rammy too, now uncle raydick do you think rammy was average too in his first season?. White wasn't as bad as you guys are trying to paint him during his first season , yes his first two matches was shiit, especially his first match but then so was the whole team. Arsenal fans didn't like the signing of both white and ramsdale even before the officially kicked a ball as arsenal players just because of their ex clubs and also money involved in their deals which many including I myself thought was too high for them. He came under heavy attacks both from pundits and fans during his early days but gradually grew into the team. I remember going from "nawah for dis Ben white" to "fine play there better baller" during his first season... But then what do I know......

Did u follow the conversation from the onset?

If u follow some of the discussions we had in the past particularly whites first season, I'm one of the few guys here who defended White's addition to the team. At the height of the "defence vs Attack wins u league" discussion, I'm one of the few guys who always pointed it out that addition of Gabriel And White to the team was a step in the right direction by the club management .

So u see, I'm the last person that will use the word "bad" to refer to white. If u noticed all I said was that he's average ( and this is in relation to Saliba). I never said he's bad.

The discussion I was having with mos is that Saliba is one of the unbenchable players in our team which he does not only disagree with, but also made the unpardonable error of saying White would step into his shoes while other Players can't step into the shoes of Saka, Ramsdale and Gabriel. I no gree with that one.

BlueRayDick:


This same white? Humour me bro

You want us to start with Saliba's own. Off the top of my head, I remember Saliba catching the ball with his hands inside the box against Leeds.

What of the way he gave away the ball under no pressure against same opponent?

Do you want us to compile the list?

See ehn, Players have off days when nothing just work for them. Moreso, not many of us here really like White because of the transfer fee so that plays a part too.

Do you also want us to compare the team structure, midfield setup and others too?