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Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by Jamigori: 7:11am On Jul 02, 2023 |
This is why I don't like the Pan African movement. Most have their kids in developed countries while discouraging others from leaving. 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by TemplarLandry: 7:12am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by KingOfTheDamned: 7:19am On Jul 02, 2023 |
That's Nigerians for you Those who tell you not to Japan fall into 2 categories 1. Those who can never afford to leave Nigeria or even afford visa fees talkless of flight ticket . They can't ever travel out of Nigeria except as war time refuggess to cameround or Ghana with their legs. Or those who were deported and can never leave Nigeria. 2. Those who don't want you to leave, they come here and reate threads ltellimg you how there is no green grass over there and how hard life is ther with all the taxes but they will never return to Nigeria. They get angry when they hear that their gateman or their servant in Nigeria has left the job of looking after their old mum and travelled abroad. They hate it when the driver they use whenever they visit Nigeria has now left to go hunt for Greene pastures abroad !! Who will drive their cars in Nigeria for them ? Who will open gate to their mansion in Lagos for them? How dare you dream to travelling abroad to better your life ?! These 2 categories of people are demons avoid them 23 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by neutralmind: 7:24am On Jul 02, 2023 |
KingOfTheDamned: Some people just don't like the abroad lifestyle, weather and way of life so they will rather stay here in Nigeria and live a comfortable life. I know people who genuinely do not wish to japa and they have the resources to do so. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by Cassandraloius: 7:31am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Nigeria is a beautiful place to stay, the problem we have today is bad leadership. But if see the opportunity to Japa, I will not think it twice. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by mbaise1000: 7:33am On Jul 02, 2023 |
I remember that the first time I left nigeria for France years back I didn't even know that there is something like Snow, I left Lagos on a January 4th wearing only one jean and ordinary shirt with 2 extra trousers and shirts to Paris without jacket, I came out of the airport and rushed back in again, I didn't die, I survived, my point is that anyone who want to make a move of life mustn't depend on what anyone is saying, there are always room for mistakes as long as we learn from them, I am not saying it's wrong seeking information but there are times when you need to do THINGS your own way, that someone didn't succeed in something doesn't mean you will not succeed in them, man's greatest enemy is fear, conquer fear and you are a successful person 11 Likes |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by KingOfTheDamned: 7:35am On Jul 02, 2023 |
neutralmind: You can't have a valid opinion on something you haven't experienced or have close contact with someone who has been there. I have been abroad so I can have a valid opinion on it. Imagine me saying south Africans are USELESS, when I haven't met one? That is plain xenophobia. .to tell people abroad is not worth it when you haven't crossed river Niger is just being a hater and an enemy of progress . These are the people I am referring to 2 Likes |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by inoki247: 7:38am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Lol all this Japa things are jus Noise give alll Nigerian Visa to leave the country you will be surprised half of the Citizens won't leave... With all the Noise people wey dey leave the Country yearly no reach 10m.. Na SM just dey make the noise plenty people don dey Japa since the 80s through illegal route na bkuz say people are taking the legal route more na why he dey be like say people plenty.... Nigerians wey dey Japa yearly no even plenty reach reach Mexican wey dey run enter USA wey dem share border with.... Nigerians in UK no plenty reach half of Indian and Chinese wey dey UK still na our noise plenty pass... 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by chinchum(m): 8:30am On Jul 02, 2023 |
inoki247:Nigerians leaving the country annually on one way is not up to 500,000. |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by inoki247: 8:34am On Jul 02, 2023 |
chinchum: I know say na Noise go any country even Africa countries Na Chinese and India get citizens pass for dere nd we no hear any Noise.... Even ordinary Ghana derr China has the highest number of documented citizens more than Nigeria na only undocumented we fit use beat them.... |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by chinchum(m): 8:36am On Jul 02, 2023 |
inoki247:The noise can be deceptive. |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by ednut1(m): 9:16am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Jamigori:hahahaha what a foolish man. So his son is not in Nigeria. I once saw a post of an ex oga of mine on LinkedIn complaining too. But this person spent 10 years in US before coming back, has US citizenship with her family. So you no want us to collect the citizenship too. And who says we may not come back. Japa is actually helping Nigeria. There are many unemployed and underemployed people in Nigeria. As people are moving others are replacing them. Total japa to uk, australia, canada, Germany,usa since 2020 has not even reached 1m people, meanwhile there are 200m people with. 33% unemployment rate. He should get lost. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by FriendsAndFans(m): 10:11am On Jul 02, 2023 |
mbaise1000: The fear isn't about trying to achieve one's plan. The fear is if one can afford it at the point in time and if there is support. When the two is lacking, one would have to rely on others information pattern. You gave a good thought and motivation 2 Likes |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by Mindlog: 10:28am On Jul 02, 2023 |
The man lives in the US and went to the UK way back in 1989 for his Doctorate, now moaning about brain drain! 1 Like |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by Gerrard59(m): 11:39am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Jamigori: I really detest people like him. Fvcking hypocrites! The man has US abi British citizenship (the wife is even an American) and wrote how he was scrutinised in an African country whenever he presented the Nigerian passport. It was until he brought his American passport that the official stated "You should have brought ut this in the first place". The UK government sponsored this dude to the London School of Economics, then later became the first black man on the board of directors at Apple. Now, he is complaining about japa. Why did he not return immediately after his sponsorship to LSE? Why the heck does he think those who have japa'd recently won't return? Worst of all, he moved to Ghana, whereas most who japa'd will return to Nigeria in the nearest future. Nigeria's population is way too much, and people leaving affords those at home to replace them. In 2020, the average number of jobs on Nigerian LinkedIn was 10K. Now, it is 5K. Yet the population has ballooned! Those who left will bring greater capital and higher valued skills into the economy. He should encourage the movement and even suggest that the government sign Working Holiday visas with developed countries so that people go out to find jobs. That is what Indian elites are doing - signing with Germany, UK and now Australia. This man comes across as someone who will advise a naive mentee to study at Ashesi University, which is ridiculously expensive in a country with less than ten thousand jobs, instead of a university in Brazil with over 450K jobs. Any naive African youth that follows his loud-mouthed elites blindly is on a long thing. Follow the numbers and secure your future. Don't listen to men who have secured theirs YET chastise you for doing the same. This same man has romanced with Nigerian politicians, why has he not called them to complain? 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by Gerrard59(m): 11:46am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Gerrard59: 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by lawani: 12:01pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
There are hundreds of thousands of US citizens in Nigeria most of whom are Nigerians with US citizenship. They relocated to Nigeria to work here after spending years in the USA. So things are not always as they seem. Indians, Japanese, Germans, British are all here with some working in Nigerian private companies or in companies they co founded with Nigerians. Not to talk of Lebanese, Indians, Chinese and etc and all this while young Nigerians spend millions to japa. Some Lebanese who came to Lagos penniless ten years ago are now multi millionaires using their brains and they are young men too. To each his or her own or as the saying goes 'To every Mallam his kettle!'. |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by elijah101(m): 12:05pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Me I sha want to get the second citizenship , so I can come back and tell you all that you don't need it .. lawani: 3 Likes |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by lawani: 12:10pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
elijah101: Dual citizenship is something that should not be. It makes no sense. You need only one citizenship and in other places you can be an expatriate (migrant worker). |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by shegzhkn: 12:20pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Lol, why can't all this people then build a functioning society to preclude young people from traveling to distant shores. They have opinion on everything but can do almost nothing, he is screaming about brain drain when infact the western world did not want you. Use those damn intellect to build a working society. You've got over 200M population and no matter how folks travel out of the country you will always have more 95% back home, work with that. Nigerian don't even travel that much. 1 Like |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by lawani: 12:32pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
shegzhkn: Travelling is also good. Everybody travel if only to gain extra experience. My Dad travelled to the UK,studied and returned when his Dad wrote to say he has become an old man already. If you leave your land empty, your culture will be at risk of extinction but the land itself will continue attracting people. Land is like that. If those who own it don't like it, foreigners will. Land will never be orphaned 1 Like |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by lastkingsman: 12:37pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
[quote author=Gerrard59 post=124162359][/quote] Nice write up. But why the crush on Cynthia Kamalu? Lol |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by Gerrard59(m): 12:50pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
lastkingsman: She was beautiful as at then. I really did crush on her. She is a mother (maybe two kids, I don't know). Because of her, I stayed glued to Ebony Life. |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by Gerrard59(m): 12:53pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Just to state it here, anyone who tells you dual nationality should not be, even when the person is in Canada, hustling for women with residency to marry him should be avoided. You need to have dual nationality to access most good jobs these days. If na lie, ask your tech bros who have fled as na major way to get good jobs in their industry. In the long run, dual nationality gives one stability in one's career. 5 Likes |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by LionInZion: 12:53pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
lawani: Care to explain why you think dual citizenship is useless? Have you ever been limited or denied an opportunity because you only have a Nigerian passport? If dual citizenship is so useless, do you think people will be spending hundreds of thousands of dollars or spending years in a country they don't really like or even marrying someone they don't really like just to acquire it? |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by lawani: 12:57pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
LionInZion: I believe everybody should be serious and build their nations. The Earth should be evenly developed. I don't believe in polygamy. They don't believe in it in India too. Once an Indian takes a new passport, he or she will need a visa to visit India |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by LionInZion: 1:00pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Gerrard59: Bro I tire oooo. How would someone think dual citizenship is useless haha. Yet people are lining up to spend $900k or $1.8m to acquire EB-5 visa. 1 Like |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by scally11: 3:09pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Like I will always advise people travelling abroad is the best you can do for yourself if u are from a middle class family. It us even better if u are from a poor background but luck smiled on you. It'd witchcraft for someone to dissuade another person from greatness. Ask that man if he would like to comeback and the answer u will get will throw u off balance but they will advise u not to come while they won't leave |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by Karleb(m): 4:12pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
I like the title of this thread. |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by ednut1(m): 4:22pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
lawani:the lebanese have a strong community in Nigeria with ties to politics in north and south. They are also using their skin colour privilege as we see foreigners as gods here. Even a Nigerian raised in uk or usa with accent has privileges over the average Nigerian, they get roles in media, radio station, hospitality or are used for the aesthetics, accent equals elitism/ class in Nigeria .An unknown indian, chinese or lebanese will get contracts or license for something over an average Nigerian with no connection. This analogy no follow. 10 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by lawani: 4:48pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
ednut1: Yes many back in Lebanon hear of how Nigeria is filled with Lebanese and the streets flowing with milk and honey. With only a diploma, they head to Nigeria, get a job with a Lebanese business or with Nigerians employing Lebanese, save, invest, make contacts and continue to grow and they become multi millionaires. Many of them in Nigeria are first generation though there are many whose family have settled for long. Many billionaire Lebanese are Nigerians and if Nigeria bans dual citizenship, they will opt for Nigerian citizenship over that of Lebanon. Some of them are fluent in Nigerian languages too though not as much as the earlier generations who were more integrated into the local culture. Then nobody gets contracts without being in the industry and having substantial investments 1 Like |
Re: Japa For Me, But Not For Thee. by steadyMoving22: 8:17pm On Jul 02, 2023 |
Get a second passport if you like yourself, Nigeria don't really care about you. 2 Likes |
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