Boomark:

Hmm...it seems its only rev 22 that is remaining.
Enigmatic, its better we start from the beginning ie rev 1:1-2 to understand the rest of revelations better.
1 The revelation from Jesus Christ,
which God gave him to show his
servants what must soon take
place. He made it known by
sending his angel to his servant
John, 2 who testifies to everything
he saw—that is, the word of God
and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

God gave Christ every thing we read about in the revelation and Chris brought the message from God to us. And Christ made it known to us by means of His angels.
Its like when GEJ sends a minister to represent him and read an address. The minister will read it this way "I, the president, commander in chief of the armed forces. I here by give all of you free electricity..." You know? Some thing like that. I will come to verse 22 letter. Please any one that has some thing to add should please do so. Except Ifedinobi.

frosbel: The Trinity is an attack on the first commandment of GOD.

When asked about the most important commandment, here's what Jesus said.

New International Version (©1984)
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important? Jesus replied, "The most important commandment is this: 'Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is the one and only LORD." - Mark 12:28-29

This is akin to 'thou shall have no other gods before me'.


If we were to apply the Trinitarian principle , we have :

New International Version (©1984)
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important? Jesus replied, "The most important commandment is this: 'Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is three persons and three Lords but ONE GOD."- Mark 12:28-29

If this concept is not of the anti Christ I really do not know what else is.

Image123: ^
thanks but no thanks, i have no interest in learning insignificant 'truths'. I'm free and saved already. fight whatever appears to be biting you instead.

Boomark:

You sound like you are now disarmed by some of the explanations you are now seeing.

Boomark:
Hebrews 1:1-12
1 God, who at various times and
in various ways spoke in time
past to the fathers BY THE PROPHETS,
2 has in these last days spoken to
us BY HIS SON, whom He has
appointed heir of all things,
through whom also He made
the worlds;....
8 But to the Son He says: "Your
throne, O God, is forever and
ever; A scepter of righteousness
is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness
and hated lawlessness;
THEREFORE GOD, YOU GOD, has
anointed You With the oil of
gladness more than Your
COMPANIONS."
10 And: "You, LORD, in the
beginning laid the foundation
of the earth, And the heavens
are the work of Your hands.
11 They will perish, but You
remain; And they will all grow
old like a garment;
12 Like a cloak You will fold them
up, And they will be changed.
But You are the same, And Your
years will not fail."

Let me explain it to you.
From verse 1 and 2, do you see the similarity of what the prophets and the Son does for the Father. It is very clear.
Verse 8. God is the one speaking to Christ. The word GOD does not make Him greater than or equal to the Father.
Verse 9 shows that God is His God. And God anointed Him more than His COMPANIONS. Who are they?
By anointing Him, God gave Him everything and made Him Lord over us and every other thing.

Deep Sight:

I could ask you the exact same question, could I not?

Boomark:

Hmm...it seems its only rev 22 that is remaining.
Enigmatic, its better we start from the beginning ie rev 1:1-2 to understand the rest of revelations better.
1 The revelation from Jesus Christ,
which God gave him to show his
servants what must soon take
place. He made it known by
sending his angel to his servant
John, 2 who testifies to everything
he saw—that is, the word of God
and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

God gave Christ every thing we read about in the revelation and Chris brought the message from God to us. And Christ made it known to us by means of His angels.
Its like when GEJ sends a minister to represent him and read an address. The minister will read it this way "I, the president, commander in chief of the armed forces. I here by give all of you free electricity..." You know? Some thing like that. I will come to verse 22 letter. Please any one that has some thing to add should please do so. Except Ifedinobi.

In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple. Above him were seraphs, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. And they were calling to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory.” At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and the temple was filled with smoke. ~ Isaiah 6:1-4

Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him. ~ John 12:41

Ihedinobi: ^^^ Good one, bro

Ihedinobi: ^^^ Good one, bro

Chuksxp:

In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple. Above him were seraphs, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. And they were calling to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory.” At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and the temple was filled with smoke. ~ Isaiah 6:1-4

Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him. ~ John 12:41

Boomark: Chuksxp:
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In the year that King Uzziah
died, I saw the Lord seated on a
throne, high and exalted, and
the train of his robe filled the
temple. Above him were
seraphs, each with six wings:
With two wings they covered
their faces, with two they
covered their feet, and with
two they were flying. And they
were calling to one another:
“Holy, holy, holy is the LORD
Almighty; the whole earth is
full of his glory.” At the sound
of their voices the doorposts
and thresholds shook and the
temple was filled with smoke. ~
Isaiah 6:1-4
Isaiah said this because he saw
Jesus’ glory and spoke about
him. ~ John 12:41
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The glory of the person Isaiah saw is the glory of God Almighty not Jesus. Isaiah 6:1-4 is just a description of what we have in Rev 4:7-8.

If you read rev 5:6-7. You will see the One that seats on the throne and what our lord Jesus(the lamb) collected from Him- a message from Him to us.

6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the
midst of the throne and of the
four beasts, and in the midst of
the elders, stood a Lamb as it
had been slain, having seven
horns and seven eyes, which are
the seven Spirits of God sent
forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book
out of the right hand of him that
sat upon the throne.

I will advice you use other bible translations to compare and contrast so that you wunt be misled by people protecting a particular interest.

Concerning rev 22, what i will say must be in harmony with the rest of the bible but no conclusion yet.
But i from what am seeing, alpha and omega is exclusive for God Almighty.

Because our lord Jesus Christ was presenting a message from Him. Just like the minister sent by GEJ.

Boomark: Chuksxp:
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In the year that King Uzziah
died, I saw the Lord seated on a
throne, high and exalted, and
the train of his robe filled the
temple. Above him were
seraphs, each with six wings:
With two wings they covered
their faces, with two they
covered their feet, and with
two they were flying. And they
were calling to one another:
“Holy, holy, holy is the LORD
Almighty; the whole earth is
full of his glory.” At the sound
of their voices the doorposts
and thresholds shook and the
temple was filled with smoke. ~
Isaiah 6:1-4
Isaiah said this because he saw
Jesus’ glory and spoke about
him. ~ John 12:41
------------------------------------------

The glory of the person Isaiah saw is the glory of God Almighty not Jesus. Isaiah 6:1-4 is just a description of what we have in Rev 4:7-8.

If you read rev 5:6-7. You will see the One that seats on the throne and what our lord Jesus(the lamb) collected from Him- a message from Him to us.

6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the
midst of the throne and of the
four beasts, and in the midst of
the elders, stood a Lamb as it
had been slain, having seven
horns and seven eyes, which are
the seven Spirits of God sent
forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book
out of the right hand of him that
sat upon the throne.

I will advice you use other bible translations to compare and contrast so that you wunt be misled by people protecting a particular interest.

Concerning rev 22, what i will say must be in harmony with the rest of the bible but no conclusion yet.
But i from what am seeing, alpha and omega is exclusive for God Almighty.

Because our lord Jesus Christ was presenting a message from Him. Just like the minister sent by GEJ.

Enigma: ^^^ That they cannot deal with the passages from Revelation 22 especially shows that it is not very productive engaging them ---- the only use of the exercise has been to provide the counter points for the benefit of others.

Enigma:


And Jesus also is Alpha and Omega; here is just one example of where the Bible says so clearly.

Revelation 22:12

Boomark: Chuksxp:
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In the year that King Uzziah
died, I saw the Lord seated on a
throne, high and exalted, and
the train of his robe filled the
temple. Above him were
seraphs, each with six wings:
With two wings they covered
their faces, with two they
covered their feet, and with
two they were flying. And they
were calling to one another:
“Holy, holy, holy is the LORD
Almighty; the whole earth is
full of his glory.” At the sound
of their voices the doorposts
and thresholds shook and the
temple was filled with smoke. ~
Isaiah 6:1-4
Isaiah said this because he saw
Jesus’ glory and spoke about
him. ~ John 12:41
------------------------------------------

The glory of the person Isaiah saw is the glory of God Almighty not Jesus. Isaiah 6:1-4 is just a description of what we have in Rev 4:7-8.

If you read rev 5:6-7. You will see the One that seats on the throne and what our lord Jesus(the lamb) collected from Him- a message from Him to us.

6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the
midst of the throne and of the
four beasts, and in the midst of
the elders, stood a Lamb as it
had been slain, having seven
horns and seven eyes, which are
the seven Spirits of God sent
forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book
out of the right hand of him that
sat upon the throne.

I will advice you use other bible translations to compare and contrast so that you wunt be misled by people protecting a particular interest.

Concerning rev 22, what i will say must be in harmony with the rest of the bible but no conclusion yet.
But i from what am seeing, alpha and omega is exclusive for God Almighty.

Because our lord Jesus Christ was presenting a message from Him. Just like the minister sent by GEJ.

Ihedinobi: ^^^ na wa u o, bros. Wetin concern wetin I talk concern Rev 1:1? I talked about your thesis on Hebrews 1 na.

I hope you're not a selective reader. Do well to peruse again my post demanding that you reconcile your explanation of Hebrews 1 with the Scriptural text itself. When you have sorted yourself out there, I will show you more trouble in your explanations for you to deal with.

Boomark:

May be you should read my explanation of Hebrew 1 again and tell me what is false in it. If you can't find any, just believe it. It will help you to see more truth in the word of God.

I think your brethren in trinity are now getting the gist. It will be good if you join them and get the gist also.

We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” ~ John 10:33

For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. ~ John 5:18

Chuksxp:



Even the Jews back then understood the implications of Jesus' statement.

No , he did not claim to be GOD.

They wanted to stone him because he said he was the SON of GOD, stop implying other meanings into plain scripture.

We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” ~ John 10:33

They wanted to stone him because he said he was the SON of GOD, stop implying other meanings into plain scripture.

In v19 , Jesus further clarified his role as Son of GOD and even stated quite surprisingly that he can do nothing without the father, what does that tell you , that he is equal to GOD

but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. ~ John 5:18

frosbel:

No , he did not claim to be GOD.

They wanted to stone him because he said he was the SON of GOD, stop implying other meanings into plain scripture.

in v17 he explicitly distinguished between himself and God the father.

Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working."

then we see in v18 that the Jews wanted to stone him, not because he said he was GOD but the Son of GOD.

In v19 , Jesus further clarified his role as Son of GOD and even stated quite surprisingly that he can do nothing without the father, what does that tell you , that he is equal to GOD

Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

frosbel:

he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

Ihedinobi:

Ok. So you confirm you're a selective reader. No wonder then. Since you can't scroll up the page to see what I pointed out in your explanations, Professor Humble Truth-possessor, I'll reproduce it in my next post.

I'd like to see you make another excuse then.