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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by cococandy(f): 5:03pm On Jul 02, 2023
Ladyhippolyta88:

I just try to do good, live with a clean Conscience and mind my business. Let God take charge.
No one on earth is God's mouthpiece we are all fallible and sin a lot, knowingly and unknowingly.
May God help us all. I will not spread hate and impose my views and beliefs on others. Its why I am liberal.

👏🏽👏🏽

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Klass99(f): 5:08pm On Jul 02, 2023

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Ishilove: 5:08pm On Jul 02, 2023
cococandy:


Minors don’t have those rights. And even if some LGBTQ folks agree with gender surgery in childhood, I know some of them don’t. And not everyone who supports LGBTQ rights agrees with gender reassignment surgery in childhood
https://globalnews.ca/news/6399468/bc-gender-change-court/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/06/trans-teenager-case-canada-father-halts-treatment

There are some other cases that come to mind but I'm feeling too lazy to search them out.

Coco, it's happening right under our noses. Any child of mine who tries this will be lured back to Nigeria and when there, his/her Nigerian passport will be destroyed until they are of legal age. And even before then I will make sure any useless gender confusion is expunged from their heads.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Klass99(f): 5:16pm On Jul 02, 2023

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Kobojunkie: 5:16pm On Jul 02, 2023
GloriousGbola:
■ do people have the right to preach to and convert children to other religions or belief systems?
■ are children mature enough to be told - what your parents believe is wrong and therefore we have a divine mandate to put you to the right path?
■ do people have a right to disturb others in the name of religion? trans people are in your face and they should not be because they are an abomination . so - does a christian also have the right to be in my face with a megaphone preaching blasphemy at 5am in the morning in kano?
Interesting! grin
Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by cococandy(f): 5:16pm On Jul 02, 2023
Ishilove:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6399468/bc-gender-change-court/

There are some other cases that come to mind but I'm feeling too lazy to search them out

I did some search based on the post and there were cases where children 17 or older (I’m assuming 18 then?) received gender surgery with parental consent.

(Which personally I still think is early)

But no medical professionals are not out here willy hilly chopping off joysticks for the fun of it.

The documentary does not give space to doctors to speak about the clinical procedures involved in gender reassignment surgeries especially when a section of the medical community is vocally sceptical of the procedures. It has been noted by physicians that gender-affirming hormones are partially irreversible and change people’s bodies for the rest of their lives. This has been compounded by the concerns of the Association of Clinical Psychologists, which has spoken of a “lack of robust, high-quality evidence regarding the safety and effectiveness of using puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to treat gender dysphoria in adolescents.”

The issues of gender dysphoria need to be openly addressed while being supplemented with scientific research. However, turning the quest to define a woman into a narcissistic and self-indulgent exercise is doing more harm than good to the conversation.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by cococandy(f): 5:18pm On Jul 02, 2023
Trans population is so minute it’s not likely to occur to you or someone you know.


However….. what will being in Nigeria do grin ?
Except push the child to back alley associations where people will then take advantage of them because of what they are going through

Ishilove:



Coco, it's happening right under our noses. Any child of mine who tries this will be lured back to Nigeria and when there, his/her Nigerian passport will be destroyed until they are of legal age. And even before then I will make sure any useless gender confusion is expunged from their heads.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Ishilove: 5:19pm On Jul 02, 2023
Klass99:


Pierce is a whole vibe! I enjoy watching him tackle these people, he always beats them hands down. He once identified as a two spirit penguin and an LGBTQ person on the show with Pierce took offence and said it's ridiculous to identify as a two spirit penguin. Then Pierce goes.....why is it okay for you to identify as what you want and have chosen to but ridiculous for me to do so? @ The bolded he always stuns them into silence and speechless-ness grin. Pierce is a pleasure to watch!
Yeah, I watched that program. The LGBTQ person said there are 100 genders grin Absolutely ridiculous, these people

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Ishilove: 5:24pm On Jul 02, 2023
cococandy:
Trans population is so minute it’s not likely to occur to you or someone you know.


However….. what will being in Nigeria do grin ?
Except push the child to back alley associations where people will then take advantage of them because of what they are going through

I have a very close friend whose daughter was non-binary and was using 'they/them' pronoun. 19 year old girl. He took her back to Nigeria, destroyed her passport and hooked her up with some men. He said, and I quote, "after dem nack her better nacking, she has gone back to using 'her' pronoun". grin

To paraphrase him: she was fûcked back to her senses. grin grin grin

She has been here for a year and has voluntarily refused to go back to the states.

That's just one case. My kids will undergo conversion therapy the Nigerian way, if may God forbid they decide to become transgender. cheesy

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by kkins25(m): 5:38pm On Jul 02, 2023
cococandy:
Trans population is so minute it’s not likely to occur to you or someone you know.


However….. what will being in Nigeria do grin ?
Except push the child to back alley associations where people will then take advantage of them because of what they are going through

with more than 5 billion women who are females, I've never hearx of women month. But, we have pride month, the most important and marginalized demographic in society and the world...

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Ishilove: 5:40pm On Jul 02, 2023
Ladyhippolyta88:

I just try to do good, live with a clean Conscience and mind my business. Let God take charge.
No one on earth is God's mouthpiece we are all fallible and sin a lot, knowingly and unknowingly.
May God help us all. I will not spread hate and impose my views and beliefs on others. Its why I am liberal.
But they are constantly in our faces, forcing their BS ideology down our throats yet they say it doesn't affect anybody.

The LGBTQ movement in the west is not just about being able to live your life. It is a political movement and they are forcing themselves down people's throat. They want trans-women, that is men, to be able to use women's toilets, gyms, to compete in women's sports, how can you say that doesn't affect anyone else. There have been cases of trans women (men) exposing themselves in toilets in which little girls were present. They are now teaching children about gays and transgenders, putting gay ideology in children's programmes and literature etc. They constantly and continuously want to force themselves on others. People are being punished for so-called misgendering (that is, calling a trans woman a man and vice versa, etc). I saw a video of a huge man in a wig screaming at a clerk for calling him 'sir'. He was screaming "it's, ma'am". I think the clerk was later reprimanded and fired. I can't remember because it happened a couple of years ago.

Your post is essentially saying we should live and let live and not judge anyone.

Well, I exercise my right to identify as what I want and I choose to identify as a judge, and I will judge the heck out of all those contributing and propagating this lunacy.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Kobojunkie: 5:40pm On Jul 02, 2023
kkins25:
■ with more than 5 billion women who are females, I've never hearx of women month. But, we have pride month, the most important and marginalized demographic in society and the world...
Is there a men's month? undecided

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by cococandy(f): 5:45pm On Jul 02, 2023
I mean as long as it’s consensual who am I judge?

Ishilove:

I have a very close friend whose daughter was non-binary and was using 'they/them' pronoun. 19 year old girl. He took her back to Nigeria, destroyed her passport and hooked her up with some men. He said, and I quote, "after dem nack her better nacking, she has gone back to using 'her' pronoun". grin

To paraphrase him: she was fûcked back to her senses. grin grin grin

She has been here for a year and has voluntarily refused to go back to the states.

That's just one case. My kids will undergo conversion therapy the Nigerian way, if may God forbid they decide to become transgender. cheesy
Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Ishilove: 5:48pm On Jul 02, 2023
Klass99:


The regrets and stories will only increase as time goes on. Some of them (fortunately) come to their senses before they've gone too far and done too much damage. At least one woman I stumbled on two days ago on YouTube reversed her ways and the procedure before it got too bad, however, she still had a masculine voice.



As in ehn!
The trans women have their larynx shaved to achieve a lower, more feminine voice. I don't know what the trans men do to get the deep, masculine voice.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by kkins25(m): 5:51pm On Jul 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Is there a men's month? undecided
have men ever complained of being marginalized?

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by cococandy(f): 5:52pm On Jul 02, 2023
kkins25:

with more than 5 billion women who are females, I've never hearx of women month. But, we have pride month, the most important and marginalized demographic in society and the world...

Go grab a second cup of coffee

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Kobojunkie: 5:56pm On Jul 02, 2023
kkins25:
have men ever complained of being marginalized?
Do all marginalized groups have such requirements or what? undecided
Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Acidosis(m): 6:01pm On Jul 02, 2023
The idea of using human rights (i.e., live and let live) as a basis for justifying every act of man is heavily flawed though. Human rights is never absolute. Even if a person's rights do not conflict with the rights of others, certain rights can conflict with the broader interests of society. The broader interests of society is why people under 21 are banned from buying/taking alcohol. Is it [human] right to ban children from having sex? No! However, adults had to trample on children's rights with some "age of consent" gibberish for the broader interests of society. We create needless ethical dilemmas when we fail to consider the broader societal interests.

It shouldn't really matter whether people are born ga..y., the interest of the larger society should be considered in all human dealings. Some people are born to steal after all (kleptomaniacs). We shouldn't, because of their innate nature (mental health and brain distortion issues actually), allow stealing become a norm. Imagine making one law or the other for every human phobia or pervasions (resulting from some birth distortions)?

Making certain laws for a select few and their sexual choices is a bit too much. The select few, at all cost, should covertly engage in their act or seek treatment when possible for the sake of the larger society. After all l.£sbians have lived among and with us for centuries and no one, as far as I know, is calling for their heads. But naah, societies shouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to promote another gender (a deformity). For those who don't like the religious path, let l£s.bianism be done covertly, akin to other consensual activities like thre.some or fo.ur.some. But naah, we aint making laws for this. We should know and accept the differences between nature and deformity/pervasions. Any other gender that isn't male or female is clearly a deformity or pervasion.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by kkins25(m): 6:10pm On Jul 02, 2023
Cococandy, the real issue here is the contortion of observable facts perpetrated by the lgbt++ community..

1) A man or woman isn't a bundle of feeling that change over time. The biology is there to prove it.

2) Everybody is aware of differing sexual orientation. Haven't you seen people who eat feaces to become sexualy aroused? Imagine a teacher starts to teach your children thay eating feaces is a normal alternate sexual orientation. Let's be true to our self please, every adult is free to express themselves as they Please, but, is such sexual orientation one that should be taught to kids as normal?

3) why should the minority define the biology of the majority? Every lgbtq will refer to males as Cis-males. Even if you tell them not to, because to them, cis male is the proper term. A yoruba will enter igbo land and say no its not chineke it olodumare abi? How would that pan out?

My problem with them is their logic is inconsistent. Plus, I told you before that a lqbtq was scolding a 9 year old for disagreeing to believe that another student, also within the age range could identify as a cat.. Check youtube... Check Aba&preach channel, its one of their latest.

Again, a human with five legs doesn't negates the undisputed fact that humans have only four legs. Why aren't there any other specie with gender disphoria huh? After all, gayish behavior observed in animals are used to justify the existence of homosexuality, why not use the same logic the deconstruct the idea that a creature with a certain sex organ will act in accordance with its sex. No gender fluidity bullshit. In fact, gender was a feminist construct..So,it wasn't something that was status quo. the whole fluidity nonsense was copied right out of religious practises like hermatica.


Isolated tribes in the whole world, do not show any indications of gender dysphoria. This is something you find in societies with heavy western influence..

Also, Western society, which is practically a sprout of roman society, is one of the few societies, where women were seen as lesser than men. That crap was taught to us.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by kkins25(m): 6:13pm On Jul 02, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Do all marginalized groups have such requirements or what? undecided
not really.
Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by kkins25(m): 6:14pm On Jul 02, 2023
cococandy:


Go grab a second cup of coffee
**Heard **

I can only go one satchet or half a table spoon per day. unfortunately. cry
Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by bukatyne(f): 6:26pm On Jul 02, 2023
kkins25:

I am a fan of Matt. Although not a Christian, I agree with the quote. As already said, the so called LGBTQ people who claim to champion human right only seem to have power when it comes to Christians. Infact, I've seen vile and disturbing stuff done by the said group just to ridicule chrisitianity. However, when Christians retaliate, Christians lose their job. Get called homophobes, and so on.

It is not even a function of 'retaliation'; it is a function of realising that Christians have been silent for too long and they are standing up to say 'no to this abomination. You can do your stuff in private, don't do it in public. Don't drag the rest of the world down in your madness.'

As a Christian, you are either for or against LGBTQ~ community. There is no middle ground. Again Christianity is not the only religion against it; I actually do not know any religion that supports LGBTQ~.

Finally, Christians know why we are ones getting the attacks and ridicules; it is clearly stated in the Bible. The World (human/demonic system) from time has been at spiritual war against the Church. It is not new and the Bible has warned that you cannot be aligned with the world and Christ at the same time. Friendship with the world means you have declared yourself as an enemy of Christ and His principles. There is no middle ground with Christianity.

I know you are not a Christian; I am just using this post (since you honestly noticed the hostility against Christians) to address my fellow Christians not to be surprised.

Matt Walsh is definitely not surprised by the backlash. He knows that his words would be twisted the moment he stood up to speak out against the LGBTQ~ community.

P.S.: I used real Christians and later removed the real. You are either a Christian (Christ-like and following Biblical principles or not). Real, genuinely born again and other adjectives used before Christians makes people comfortable with one leg in and one leg out. You are either for or against, it is a hardline.

P.S.S.: The right word should be anti-homosexual, anti-trans etc. We are not afraid of them, we are against them. cheesy

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by bukatyne(f): 6:29pm On Jul 02, 2023
Ishilove:

Pierce Morgan said if you can identify as any gender or anything ,he chooses to identify as a black female lesbian. The pro-trans lady on his program was speechless

I watched that clip. Lady wanted to say it's not possible but realised she would sound stupid. cheesy

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by cococandy(f): 6:36pm On Jul 02, 2023
kkins25:
Cococandy, the real issue here is the contortion of observable facts perpetrated by the lgbt++ community..

1) A man or woman isn't a bundle of feeling that change over time. The biology is there to prove it.

2) Everybody is aware of differing sexual orientation. Haven't you seen people who eat feaces to become sexualy aroused? Imagine a teacher starts to teach your children thay eating feaces is a normal alternate sexual orientation. Let's be true to our self please, every adult is free to express themselves as they Please, but, is such sexual orientation one that should be taught to kids as normal?

3) why should the minority define the biology of the majority? Every lgbtq will refer to males as Cis-males. Even if you tell them not to, because to them, cis male is the proper term. A yoruba will enter igbo land and say no its not chineke it olodumare abi? How would that pan out?

My problem with them is their logic is inconsistent. Plus, I told you before that a lqbtq was scolding a 9 year old for disagreeing to believe that another student, also within the age range could identify as a cat.. Check youtube... Check Aba&preach channel, its one of their latest.

Again, a human with five legs doesn't negates the undisputed fact that humans have only four legs. Why aren't there any other specie with gender disphoria huh? After all, gayish behavior observed in animals are used to justify the existence of homosexuality, why not use the same logic the deconstruct the idea that a creature with a certain sex organ will act in accordance with its sex. No gender fluidity bullshit. In fact, gender was a feminist construct..So,it wasn't something that was status quo. the whole fluidity nonsense was copied right out of religious practises like hermatica.


Isolated tribes in the whole world, do not show any indications of gender dysphoria. This is something you find in societies with heavy western influence..

Also, Western society, which is practically a sprout of roman society, is one of the few societies, where women were seen as lesser than men. That crap was taught to us.

@bold
Homophobia and most types of bigotry are actually a western culture. That’s why I laugh when people uphold ancient western bigotry in the name of preserving their own culture. It’s not your culture. It’s the remnant of colonial rule .

As for the rest of your post. The minority do not define your gender. That’s a weird take.
And


“Despite a long history of transgender realities in Africa, many modern transgendered people there experience well-warranted fear because of hostility in their families, tribes, or nations,” writes G. G. Bolich. “Much of this modern hostile response has been placed on the influence of European culture, both because of a colonial past and because of contemporary pressure, or the influence of foreign religions. Nevertheless, as in the past, so now transgendered people are active members of their communities, seeking to effect positive changes.” Africa’s rich past of gender non-conformity, coupled with transgender behaviors and transgender realities, is deeply embedded within various ethnic groups across the continent.
Before the implementation of rigid European rigid binaries, within the Dagaaba tribe of Ghana, Burkina Faso, and the Ivory Coast, gender identity was determined differently. Shaman Malidoma Somé of the Dagaaba says that gender to the tribe is not dependent upon sexual anatomy. “It is purely energetic. In that context, one who is physically male can vibrate female energy, and vice versa. That is where the real gender is.” The Igbo of Nigeria, also in Western Africa, “appear to assign gender around age 5” (Bolich 246). In Central Africa, the Mbuti do not designate a specific gender to a child until after puberty, in direct contrast to Western society.



GENDER FLUIDITY AND NATIVE AMERICANS

In Native American culture, gender fluid people were accepted. Tribes also had their own terminology for describing these individuals, such as ​Winkte​ (Lakota Sioux), N​ àdleehé (Navaho), and ​Alyha (​ Mohave). In many Native nations, there was more than two concepts of gender. Colonization has diminished these practices, and replaced them with binary molds, however modern movements have sought to reclaim these gender fluid traditions.
PRE-COLONIAL

Before the arrival of European explorers, queer Native Americans were recognized accepted, and maintained significant roles in tribal communities. According to Randy Burns (Northern Paiute), “our families and communities recognized us and encouraged us to develop our skill… [and] in turn, we made special contributions to our communities.” Traditional gay ancestors were healers, artists, hunters, warriors and providers of families and communities.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by bukatyne(f): 6:37pm On Jul 02, 2023
cococandy:


Sex transition IN CHILDREN. Please make that distinction. I’m a firm believer that children can’t make permanent life changing decisions. Things like having sex, giving birth, gender surgeries are in my opinion things that can have life changing consequences and kids don’t have the mental maturity to decide to do it.
If I have a kid that’s trans, I’ll accept and support them without judging or shaming but I will not give them my blessing to go for sex reassignment as kids.

And not all LGBTQ people are in support of children transitioning. This is the propaganda I was talking about. Maybe you meant to say they support gender affirming healthcare care which is not always the same gender reassignment surgery .

How can a kid who you believe can't make permanent life changing decisions tell you he/she is trans and you will accept without 'judgement or shaming'?

How does your kid know he/she was born in the wrong body? In the wrong sex? A kid that wants to be a pilot today and a doctor tomorrow? Or likes Iya Biliki more than you because she gave her two pieces of meat when the rule is one in your household?

As a Christian (that you claimed), you are fine with your seed (whom God has said is for Him and for signs and wonders) to be a permanent enemy of God? Because?

I have you before that you are not a Christian. It is either you retrace your steps from your fence all is fine stances on things God has declared outright enmity on or embrace your lack of godliness. Like I said to KKins, Christianity is a hardline: you are either for or against. If you are for LGBTQ~ community, you have declared friendship with the world and enmity with God.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by cococandy(f): 6:44pm On Jul 02, 2023
bukatyne:


How can a kid who you believe can't make permanent life changing decisions tell you he/she is trans and you will accept without 'judgement or shaming'?

Yes. As opposed to killing and torturing them to change? Or Will shaming/judging them make it change? I feel like that’s common sense.


How does your kid know he/she was born in the wrong body? In the wrong sex? A kid that wants to be a pilot today and a doctor tomorrow? Or likes Iya Biliki more than you because she gave her two pieces of meat when the rule is one in your household?

Which is why I don’t support transition surgery in childhood. Permanent life changing decision. You really didn’t have to quote this post because it doesn’t add anything to the conversation. Except that you are not reading what you’re quoting.

As a Christian (that you claimed), you are fine with your seed (whom God has said is for Him and for signs and wonders) to be a permanent enemy of God? Because?

you’re the one defining them as enemies of God. God himself is probably not looking down favorably at you at the moment.

I have you before that you are not a Christian. It is either you retrace your steps from your fence all is fine stances on things God has declared outright enmity on or embrace your lack of godliness.
hug a wall if it displeases you that much. Cry me a river.

Like I said to KKins, Christianity is a hardline: you are either for or against. If you are for LGBTQ~ community, you have declared friendship with the world and enmity with God.

True Christianity . A real Jesus follower is not a fanatically crazed person who’s okay with harm happening to those who don’t share the same beliefs as them. Jesus said on the last day he will cast you away and say you never knew him. Because you worshiped for your own ego and self aggrandizing.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by bukatyne(f): 6:46pm On Jul 02, 2023
GloriousGbola:


do people have the right to preach to and convert children to other religions or belief systems?

are children mature enough to be told - what your parents believe is wrong and therefore we have a divine mandate to put you to the right path?

do people have a right to disturb others in the name of religion? trans people are in your face and they should not be because they are an abomination . so - does a christian also have the right to be in my face with a megaphone preaching blasphemy at 5am in the morning in kano?



@bold: no

If you warn them prior not to preach again. Infact these days, when you meet someone, you ask: can I share the word with you? Yes, carry on; No, let them be.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by bukatyne(f): 7:03pm On Jul 02, 2023
cococandy:


Yes. As opposed to killing and torturing them to change? Or Will shaming/judging them make it change? I feel like that’s common sense.



Which is why I don’t support transition surgery in childhood. Permanent life changing decision. You really didn’t have to quote this post because it doesn’t add anything to the conversation. Expect that you are not reading what you’re quoting.
you’re the one defining them as enemies of God. God himself is probably not looking down favorably at you at the moment.

hug a wall if it displeases you that much. Cry me a river.



True Christianity . A real Jesus follower is not a fanatically crazed person who’s okay with harm happening to those who don’t share the same beliefs as them. Jesus said on the last day he will cast you away and say you never knew him. Because you worshiped for your own ego and self aggrandizing.

😆 😂 😆 😂 😆 😂 😆 😂 😆 😂 😆

Coco, pick up a Bible in English or Igbo and read.

God's displeasure with the alphabet people are well documented. I did not define them as the enemies of God, God did by Himself.

You still have not answered how your kids would know they are trans. How? Enlighten me? Your girl says 'I feel like a boy' and you encourage her? If she feels like a cat or a goat, does she get same support or just as a boy?

If you are truly a Christian mother and any of your child (even if she is 50yrs) tells you she is trans, you would go on your knees to God in prayers to destroy the evil seed that the devil has planted and adjust your lifestyle to bring that Child back to Christ. That is what a Christian would do.

To be honest, not really interested in how you plan to/train your kids. Just wanted to point out your confusion as regards Christianity. Christianity has some hard rules: hatred for the sin of LGBTQ~ is one of it. Just how you just see your children stealing or lying or committing adultery and support them in the guise of 'liberty'. Christianity is not a liberal religion; it has hard dos and don't.

Christianity is not begging for membership; if you cannot align with simple commandments in the Bible, don't bother. Christian means Christ-like.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Nobody: 7:08pm On Jul 02, 2023
Acidosis:
The idea of using human rights (i.e., live and let live) as a basis for justifying every act of man is heavily flawed though. Human rights is never absolute. Even if a person's rights do not conflict with the rights of others, certain rights can conflict with the broader interests of society. The broader interests of society is why people under 21 are banned from buying/taking alcohol. Is it [human] right to ban children from having sex? No! However, adults had to trample on children's rights with some "age of consent" gibberish for the broader interests of society. We create needless ethical dilemmas when we fail to consider the broader societal interests.

It shouldn't really matter whether people are born ga..y., the interest of the larger society should be considered in all human dealings. Some people are born to steal after all (kleptomaniacs). We shouldn't, because of their innate nature (mental health and brain distortion issues actually), allow stealing become a norm. Imagine making one law or the other for every human phobia or pervasions (resulting from some birth distortions)?

Making certain laws for a select few and their sexual choices is a bit too much. The select few, at all cost, should covertly engage in their act or seek treatment when possible for the sake of the larger society. After all l.£sbians have lived among and with us for centuries and no one, as far as I know, is calling for their heads. But naah, societies shouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to promote another gender (a deformity). For those who don't like the religious path, let l£s.bianism be done covertly, akin to other consensual activities like thre.some or fo.ur.some. But naah, we aint making laws for this. We should know and accept the differences between nature and deformity/pervasions. Any other gender that isn't male or female is clearly a deformity or pervasion.
Just asking
How does transgender affect the society at large?
Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by eyinjuege: 7:13pm On Jul 02, 2023
Unfortunately, misogynoir is still embedded in the 'DNA' of many trans women
Many of them seem to detest women, even though they want to be one.
Maybe it's jealousy or what, I don't know for them

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by cococandy(f): 7:23pm On Jul 02, 2023
bukatyne:


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Coco, pick up a Bible in English or Igbo and read.

God's displeasure with the alphabet people are well documented. I did not define them as the enemies of God, God did by Himself.
the same God that told you to leave judgment to him. Let’s cherry pick


You still have not answered how your kids would know they are trans. How? Enlighten me? Your girl says 'I feel like a boy' and you encourage her? If she feels like a cat or a goat, does she get same support or just as a boy?
I know you mean to sound silly but I’ll humor you anyway. If a child comes out to you and says they are gay, lesbian, trans etc. the way you show the child acceptance and not condemnation is by
A) still show them love
B) still let them know they are a valuable person to you and the community regardless of the differences.
C) if they are going through emotional distress (which is common), you can be a listening ear. Provide advice. Help them stay safe. Protect them from those who seek to harm them physically or otherwise. Don’t put them outside especially young kids because you don’t support the lifestyle. Some parents leave the kids to be homeless in the streets thus exposed to more danger. you would understand these points if your hypocrisy wasn’t clouding your judgement.


If you are truly a Christian mother and any of your child (even if she is 50yrs) tells you she is trans, you would go on your knees to God in prayers to destroy the evil seed that the devil has planted and adjust your lifestyle to bring that Child back to Christ. That is what a Christian would do.

Nothing I listed above contradicts praying for your child. Because what if after praying and they are still LGBTQ, then what? Kids get sent off to prayer camps and conversion camps run by churches all the time and they come back the same or worse. Then what?

To be honest, not really interested in how you plan/train your kids. Just wanted to point out your confusion as regards Christianity. Christianity has some hard rules: hatred for the sin of LGBTQ~ is one of it. Just how you just see your children stealing or lying or committing adultery and support them in the guise of 'liberty'. Christianity is not a liberal religion; it has hard dos and don't.

Christianity is not begging for membership; if you cannot align with simple commandments in the Bible, don't bother. Christian means Christ-like.

Madam Christian overseer. Like I said, cry me a river. I hope it pisses you off more and more. 😌☺️☺️
If you know what Christ-like means, you would know there’s absolutely nothing about your hypocritical self righteous persona that pleases Jesus in any way shape or form.


Maybe this article below will help you. But I doubt it. There’s nothing else in Christianity for you except to feel better than “those sinners”. If you don’t have that then you have nothing and I doubt even the fear of displeasing God will be enough to make you change. But hey get your reward now. You know what will happen to Pharisees like you in the end


One of the key concepts involved in developing mindfulness practice is non-judgmentalism. Why is this such an important aspect of mindfulness practice and is it compatible with Christian faith?

In Matthew 7:1-6 Jesus introduces us to his teaching on judging that has caused much debate throughout church history. Here is the passage :

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.”

Is it Jesus intention to give us a little bit of wriggle room so we can on occasion sit in judgment upon ourselves and upon others? When you see another human being (Christian or not) behaving in a way that you think is “unbiblical” or in a way that is “unacceptable” to you, is it your responsibility to bring down your gavel in judgement and condemn that person in your heart? Judgmentalism is perhaps one of the most unattractive qualities that any of us can possess as human beings. It causes relationships to break down, bitterness and unforgiveness to be harboured, anger to be stoked and jealousy to be inflamed. Instead of being life-giving, judgmentalism is like a thief robbing us of kindness and compassion and leaving us beaten up at the side of the road.

Sitting in the place of judgement we can quickly assert our own self-righteousness and superiority above others. Far from promoting Christ-likeness, judgmentalism looks more like the Pharisee who prays in Matthew 18:11 –

‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

Judgmentalism can involve that thought which very swiftly comes to a conclusion about yourself or someone else and positions you as the judge in the court room of your mind. The impact is swift and only leads to spiritual atrophy. Our “right to judge” is held up in our minds as a worthless idol leading us away from the compassionate and merciful face of Jesus. Sadly, many forms of Christianity have actually promoted this way of thinking. We point the finger at those who are not living the way we think they should or believing the right doctrines. We appoint ourselves as the soul guardians of God’s truth. And we assume that God is pleased with this way of living and being.

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Re: The Trans Agenda And What It’s About: by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 7:23pm On Jul 02, 2023
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But they are constantly in our faces, forcing their BS ideology down our throats yet they say it doesn't affect anybody.
They are not forcing their ideology on you. You are the one bothering yourself on people that don't know you. They don't come to your house and put a gun on you telling you that you must accept them. What they want is respect and equality under the law and free from discrimination at least in public circles.

The LGBTQ movement in the west is not just about being able to live your life. It is a political movement and they are forcing themselves down people's throat
It is a political movement because it is the state that protects their rights and they will vote for politicians who will safe guard their interest that is how democracy works because if one side is threatening my existence I will champion the other side that supports me. This is not difficult to understand. That is why Black voters vote Democratic. Every movement is a political movemeny because the state is a very large entity with a diverse set of people who aim to protect their rights through the machinery of the state.
They want trans-women, that is men, to be able to use women's toilets, gyms, to compete in women's sports, how can you say that doesn't affect anyone else.
Not all transwomen want this and abroad there are facilities that are not gender-specific that can accommodate transpeople. I don’t want them in women's spaces and the reality is that they are hardly in women's spaces. Even in the West there is a possiblity that you may not even come in contact with a single transperson in facilities meant for women.
There have been cases of trans women (men) exposing themselves in toilets in which little girls were present
And this should be condemned trans activist condemn this because a few bad apples just like every other movement exist does not mean the entire trans movement should get the brunt. There are men who rape and commit all sorts but you don't see every woman calling for the heads of all men or making a blanket statement on all men because of a few persons. What these transwomen have done is not different from what men do yet no one is calling for the end of all men.
They are now teaching children about gays and transgenders, putting gay ideology in children's programmes and literature etc
Of course children will learn this are there not children with gay parents? Is it not the realities of those people is the society not secular so why then should kids not be taught about the family? I knew about gay couples since I was a kid and I don't belong to the LGBTQ movement. There was a time people were debating about evolution not being taught to children did it stop the children who are now adults today from discarding evolution to prefer creationism especially those who are religious? What about the Big bang theory. The thing is that kids are not taught this things till they are in the same age they learn about puberty and the rest same time they know about sex education so what is wrong with these young ones knowing about the existence of gay people it doesn't make them gay it expands knowledge. In the West kids are taught various religions if my child learns about Islam and Hinduism does it mean my child would be one? Lol, or you think only LGBTQ ideology is the problem and other things science teaches them is not an issue for conservative folks like you?
They constantly and continuously want to force themselves on others. People are being punished for so-called misgendering (that is, calling a trans woman a man and vice versa, etc). I saw a video of a huge man in a wig screaming at a clerk for calling him 'sir'. He was screaming "it's, ma'am". I think the clerk was later reprimanded and fired. I can't remember because it happened a couple of years ago.
I disagree, LGBTQ people will say heterosexuals are the ones forcing themselves and their sexualities on them. They only want freedom from discrimination after years of persecution. If a trans person want to be identified in their pronouns let them be. I have my skepticism of them but I will call you what you want to be called. It is basic respect. I can hold that view while believing that he is still a Biological male(that is my view of them). I don’t think anyone should be fired for that but then it's simply about respecting people's choices.

Your post is essentially saying we should live and let live and not judge anyone.

Well, I exercise my right to identify as what I want and I choose to identify as a judge, and I will judge the heck out of all those contributing and propagating this lunacy.
Judge them if you want however if you cause them harm you are in no way better. Judge them they don't like you too. The feeling is mutual anyway. If you don't like their lifestyle don't go to countries that protect their existence and don't associate with them. The World is big enough for everybody. As for me I know people contributing lunacy to society and they are definitely not LGBTQ folks who just wanna live their lives. wink

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