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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 11:02pm On Jul 02, 2023
Godx:

In the world.
let me be merciful and restrict the list to just under 25 wingers

Vinicius
R. Leao
Kvaratskhelia
Rodrygo
Gabriel Martinelli
Foden

Just from the tip of my thoughts
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 11:03pm On Jul 02, 2023
Chelsea getting in Daichi Kamada,Rayan cherki Gabri Veiga and Moises Caicedo as replacement for our outgoing midfielders would make for a decent summer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 11:04pm On Jul 02, 2023
Godx:

You said Saka is average fine. What I want to know is your list of 6 world class wingers in the world better than the average Saka. Why is that suddenly difficult for you?
6 world class winger? Nah, i don't think there is up to 6 world class winger currently.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 11:05pm On Jul 02, 2023
BlueAngel444:
let me be merciful and restrict the list to just under 25 wingers

Vinicius
R. Leao
Kvaratskhelia
Rodrygo
Gabriel Martinelli
Foden

Just from the tip of my thoughts
Lmao. Using Realtord formula below how is leao, Kvaratskhelia, Foden, Rodrigo and martinelli better than Saka?


Realtord43:
Yes, he is one of epl best winger currently, but for how long can he maintain such fine form?

how many good seasons had saka have?

we seen winger who had have one to two good runs of form and later DIP. How can u rate those winger?

consistency is key!

SAKA should stay consistence for good number of seasons before he can be rated above average

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 11:08pm On Jul 02, 2023
Realtord43:
6 world class winger? Nah, i don't think there is up to 6 world class winger currently.
So in the entire world you cannot name 6 wingers better than Saka yet he is average? Oya name 3 since it's only average wingers we have in the world today.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 11:13pm On Jul 02, 2023
Godx:

Lmao. Using Realtord formula below how is leao, Kvaratskhelia, Foden, Rodrigo and martinelli better than Saka?


tell me which of those players does Saka dribble better than?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 11:17pm On Jul 02, 2023
Godx:

So in the entire world you cannot name 6 wingers better than Saka yet he is average? Oya name 3 since it's only average wingers we have in the world today.
Yea, we have lots of good wingers but just few world class.

well i can only name few...

Mbappe
Neymar
Sallah
Mane
Son

this guys have consistent for whole lot of seasons
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 11:28pm On Jul 02, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Saka isn’t even being hyped self

Madueke never better than Ez abde finish na one of epl best wingers grin

we shouldn’t be talking about saka who is close to being world class
Lol .. Looking for ways to hype Madueke I guess grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 11:30pm On Jul 02, 2023
Realtord43:
Yea, we have lots of good wingers but just few world class.

well i can only name few...

Mbappe
Neymar
Sallah
Mane
Son

this guys have consistent for whole lot of seasons
Godx, Do SAKA have this guys numbers?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 11:34pm On Jul 02, 2023
BlueAngel444:
being arsenal's top 3 player no mean say d hype dem dey hype am worth am. Imagining comparing Saka to Vinicius, Saka way him dribble be like Sterling own.

I only said apart from end products, before una start dey foam for my mouth dey talk Gareth bale transformation, tells how Saka if far better. You think if Madueke had a full season in Arsenal Saka wouldn't still be playing lb. Even Gabriel Martilleni is by far far far better than Saka. But where is his own hype. Every where quiet. Guess that's what they call English tax.
Lol... This is ignorance mixed with arrant gibberish you just spewed up there with utmost confidence.

Saying Martinelli is far far better than Saka is even the height of it.

Just keep on with your Madueke delusion and hyping.

Na me f-up
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bluelines69: 11:34pm On Jul 02, 2023
Godx:

So in the entire world you cannot name 6 wingers better than Saka yet he is average? Oya name 3 since it's only average wingers we have in the world today.

I’ll say
Salah
Vini
Mbappe
Leao
Son
Rashford
Mahrez( IMO)
And i might chip in Gnabry, but Saka is up there as well, and for someone born in 2001 it’s very impressive
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 11:39pm On Jul 02, 2023
Vischy:

#CFC

(@David_Ornstein)

🚨 BREAKING : Lyon make £21m bid for Christian Pulisic.

[@David_Ornstein]

Take it and run before Lyon realizes they are buying an average dunce. Much better offer than those pettience Milan was offering.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 11:41pm On Jul 02, 2023
Realtord43:
Yes, he is one of epl best winger currently, but for how long can he maintain such fine form?

how many good seasons had saka have?

we seen winger who had have one to two good runs of form and later DIP. How can u rate those winger?

consistency is key!

SAKA should stay consistence for good number of seasons before he can be rated above average
Saka have had consistent good seasons from 2019/2020— 2022/23. That's three good seasons and still counting..(winning arsenal's back to back in the first two full seasons While coming 2nd in the 3rd season just behind Odegaard).
And he isn't even at his peak yet.
Also, he's always been nominated for PFA young player of the season for the past 3 seasons.

If that's not consistency and above average I don't know what that is.

He's not world class probably but saying he's very very average is just pure lies.

Just say you don't watch him... Simple!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 11:47pm On Jul 02, 2023
Bluelines69:


I’ll say
Salah
Vini
Mbappe
Leao
Son
Rashford
Mahrez( IMO)
And i might chip in Gnabry, but Saka is up there as well, and for someone born in 2001 it’s very impressive
Rashford, vini, leao, and gnary are never world class. These are average wingers.
mahrez is not world class but can be rated above average.

SAKA is still very average!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 11:54pm On Jul 02, 2023
Jodera:
Lol... This is ignorance mixed with arrant gibberish you just spewed up there with utmost confidence.

Saying Martinelli is far far better than Saka is even the height of it.

Just keep on with your Madueke delusion and hyping.

Na me f-up
you f-up na big time, did I compare both of them. Person dey wish say Madueke go get better end product but because Saka the unmentionable was mentioned u jump on the post like bus conductor.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 11:57pm On Jul 02, 2023
Jodera:
Saka have had consistent good seasons from 2019/2020— 2022/23. That's three good seasons and he's still counting (winning arsenal's back to back in the first two seasons While coming 2nd in the 3rd season just behind Odegaard).
And he isn't even at his peak yet.
Also, he's always been nominated for PFA young player of the season for the past 3 seasons.

If that's not consistency and above average I don't know what that is.

He's not world class probably but saying he's very very average is just pure lies.

Just say you don't watch him... Simple!
That what am saying bro, Saka having just 3 good seasons cannot elevate him from been above average.

He should stay consistent for 5-10 seasons and then we can know were he will most definitely belong.

mason mount won chelsea best player twice in a row but we all know he is very average.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 11:58pm On Jul 02, 2023
BlueAngel444:
you f-up na big time, did I compare both of them. Person dey wish say Madueke go get better end product but because Saka the unmentionable was mentioned u jump on the post like bus conductor.


The only thing Saka is better than Madueke is end product

To you the above is not comparison...

Deh play
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:06am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
That what am saying bro, Saka having just 3 good seasons cannot elevate him from been above average.

He should stay consistent for 5-10 seasons and then we can know were he will most definitely belong.

mason mount won chelsea best player twice in a row but we all know he is very average.
if he stays 5-10 seasons, he's already world class na. How can you say someone should play at consistent level for upto 10yrs so that he'll be termed world class? grin
How many world class players deh reach 10yrs sef grin

Even kdb never reach 10yrs for Man city sef.

Mbappe that you rated, this will be his 5th year. Are you saying Mbappe isn't world class before 2023?

I'm not even saying Saka is world class but someone who is dishing out b2b2b excellent consistency can never be termed average.

Finally I want to ask...
Is Haaland a World class striker?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bluelines69: 12:11am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
Rashford, vini, leao, and gnary are never world class. These are average wingers.
mahrez is not world class but can be rated above average.

SAKA is still very average!

My reply is not related to who’s world class or not
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bluelines69: 12:12am On Jul 03, 2023
Jodera:
if he stays 5-10 seasons, he's already world class na. How can you say someone should play at consistent level for upto 10yrs so that he'll be termed world class? grin
How many world class players deh reach 10yrs sef grin

Even kdb never reach 10yrs for Man city sef.

Mbappe that you rated, this will be his 5th year. Are you saying Mbappe isn't world class before 2023?

I'm not even saying Saka is world class but someone who is dishing out b2b2b excellent consistency can never be termed average.

Finally I want to ask...
Is Haaland a World class striker?

You done hold am where no good grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:20am On Jul 03, 2023
Bluelines69:


You done hold am where no good grin grin
Omorr, I go like see him response especially pertaining that Haaland own grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 12:20am On Jul 03, 2023
Jodera:
if he stays 5-10 seasons, he's already world class. How can you say someone should play at consistent level for upto 10yrs so that he'll be termed world class? grin
Even kdb never reach 10yrs for Man city sef.

Mbappe that you rated, this will be his 5th year. Are you saying Mbappe isn't world class before 2023?

I'm not even saying Saka is world class but someone who is dishing out b2b2b excellent consistency can never be termed average.

Finally I want to ask...
Is Haaland a World class striker?
Don't just go there pls. We all know how Mbappe started at monaco and even currently at psg. Saka havnt done nothing close to what Mbappe did in 3yrs.

SAKA numbers are quite low so he need longetivity of good consistent football to be rated high. Span of 5-10yrs wil be ok for him to see were he wil belong except he improve on his numbers.

Haaland has numbers bro. He is not average.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 12:28am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
Don't just go there pls. We all know how Mbappe started at monaco and even currently at psg. Saka havnt done nothing close to what Mbappe did in 3yrs.

SAKA numbers are quite low so he need longetivity of good consistent football to be rated high. Span of 5-10yrs wil be ok for him to see were he wil belong except he improve on his numbers.

Haaland has numbers bro. He is not average.
You see say even your logic and definition no dey consistent.

First you said players need upto 5-10 years, e reach Mbappe and Haaland turn, e don bend.

Apparently, what's good for Mbappe And Haaland is not good for Saka.

You talked about numbers and chipped how you know how Mbappe started at Monaco. Same Mbappe that scored just 16goals between 2015-2018(3 whole years) is whom you claimed to know that have the numbers.


.... But e reach Saka turn, his first 3 years meant nothing to you. He needs to do more.


Wetin be the colour of your sentiments again?? grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 12:30am On Jul 03, 2023
BlueAngel444:
it's that end product that makes him no better than Saka. People hype Saka because of end product
true talk , madueke is in top 10 dribblers right now his body manipulation is second to non
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 12:34am On Jul 03, 2023
mudyrk an assist and a penalty won against France U21.

just need confidence,poch is the right man for that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 12:36am On Jul 03, 2023
lyyon offered £25m for pulisic compared to a Milan £12m


sweet business,best clear out in history.


Chelsea directors are even negotiating sell on clause (meaning if pulisic get sold we will receive some portion), pulisic is still young he might cook😎
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 12:47am On Jul 03, 2023
Jodera:
You see say even your logic and definition no dey consistent.

First you said players need upto 5-10 years, e reach Mbappe and Haaland turn, e don bend.

Apparently, what's good for Mbappe And Haaland is not good for Saka.

You talked about numbers and chipped how you know how Mbappe started at Monaco. Same Mbappe that scored just 16goals between 2015-2018(3 whole years) is whom you claimed to know that have the numbers.


.... But e reach Saka turn, his first 3 years meant nothing to you. He needs to do more.


Wetin be the colour of your sentiments again?? grin grin
if you want to use Mbappe and Haaland first few seasons to equate SAKA performance in the last 3season wil do SAKA no good. Saka hasn't done spectacular much compare to what Mbappe and Haaland did in their first few season, Mbappe at monaco won the ligue with his strilling performance, world cup with france that stunned the world, cups success with psg with terrific numbers even in the ucl.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 12:53am On Jul 03, 2023
mudyrk assisted from their own center half ,sheesh ,goal of the tournament imo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 12:53am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
if you want to use Mbappe and Haaland first few seasons to equate SAKA performance in the last 3season wil do SAKA no good. Saka hasn't done spectacular much compare to what Mbappe and Haaland did in their first few season, Mbappe at monaco won the ligue with his strilling performance, world cup with france that stunned the world, cups success with psg with terrific numbers even in the ucl.
haaland numbers at molde is cracy, same dortmund and now at city. That consistency. Improvement every season.

SAKA need numba and xpecialy ucl numbers at the big stage and trophies.
Jodera, SAKA need to improve on is numbers this season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 1:52am On Jul 03, 2023
My Twitter timeline "cherki this" "cherki that", can't wait for us to sign veiga make everybody rest ,we are not even interested in him.


pochettino values work rate something cherki doesn't have , if you are not ready to press, all your fancy football are useless to him(poch),one of the main reason he isn't interested in Felix apart from his huge wage.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 2:36am On Jul 03, 2023
The ‘rule’ is only a permitted trial in the lower leagues of Italy, and Sweden. A possibly full adoption by IFAB won’t take effect till next summer

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:47am On Jul 03, 2023
Realtord43:
if you want to use Mbappe and Haaland first few seasons to equate SAKA performance in the last 3season wil do SAKA no good. Saka hasn't done spectacular much compare to what Mbappe and Haaland did in their first few season, Mbappe at monaco won the ligue with his strilling performance, world cup with france that stunned the world, cups success with psg with terrific numbers even in the ucl.
So, this is another logic and definition again.

You've brought in team's trophies as another pointer.

You see why I said you're not consistent?

From.... He needs 5-10yrs of consistencies, you shifted to, he needs numbers, now you shifted to, he needs team trophies


Maybe next will be he needs to beast WC final

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